Motobomb55 u r rite I'm leaving the track now and I raced a ktm250 2stroke and ate him up strictly cuz he spun and could not catch me, some love 2 stroke some love 4, but in a race I gotta go with the 4 because I feel like they pull harder, and if I can find a 300ktm 2stroke ima race it and post it!
I'm goin from a 250sx to a rmz 450, I've been riding for about six years and I would have to say I have more control with 4ts more traction and more confidence to hit a crazy looking jump I never had with the 2t, yeah they may be more expensive buy I think its a good price to pay for something more enjoyable to ride, it's not about power or speed it's about confidence in your abilities, but they really do have more power it just doesn't come all at once , it let's you used ever ounce of hp in a
you people act like its a huge deal about some ones personal preference. 2 strokes and 4 strokes are obviously both good or else there wouldnt be a market for either of them.
And I don't think 4 stokes r better than 2 I've had them all and the best bike I've had was a cr125 I could not kill it but every 2 stroke I've ever had got smoked by 4 strokes with weaker riders I just think for a 2 stroke to be faster than a 4 it needs alot of work
@thews21 well yea a 2-stroke takes alot more work to go fast on, they have more power but you have to be able to use it, thats where the 4-stroke is better its alot easier to use the full potential of the power. and the crf-450 is going to have more torque cuz its a 450 put a 250f against a 250t and the 250t will blow it away in overall power. as far as what bike a ktm 300 will make more torque and horsepower than most 450's
Xch well if ur 2 stokes had more low end torque plz tell me how what reeds and pipe "and bike" cuz all I ever rode was Hondas and the cr250 didn't have crap compared to my crf450 and also I smoke cr250s with my trx450er with HRC kit
Xch, I race u any day of the week with my 4 stroke and if u can beat me I'll give u both my bikes, 2 stroke have no bottom end compared to a 4 stroke y'all should try riding the bikes y'all talk about
@thews21 ive owned and ridden both, 4-strokes do pull better off the bottom but they do not make more low end power compared to a same size 2-stroke, theyre both great bikes i loved both my 2-strokes and my 4-stroke,
Wolfgang u r 100% rite I was just trying to make a point about the new 4 strokes r fast I had them all man and my best sounding bike was a 86 atc250r with a fmf fatty
If 2 strokes r so much faster n better some one tell me y they don't race them in AMA. If u like 2 strokes and have a secret to make them faster than the new 4 strokes, that's good for u, I had a 86 250r, 2000cr250 and both bikes got smoked by a trx450er with an HRC kit I switched to 4 stroke when that same bike pulled away from a "85 atc500 swap" the only 2 stroke that still has my respect is the 2010+ af cr500 from service Honda
@thews21 everyone likes one or the other i ride a 2 stroke because its easy to maintain and cheap to fix. and they sounds freakin awsome. 4 strokes are great if you can afford one. i like both
@thews21 They dont race them in the AMA because the big 4 want you to buy the more expensive 4 strokes and the EPA is banning 2 strokes all over for burning oil. Why do you think the classes are 250 and 450 instead of 125 and 250? probably not bc 4 strokes are faster......
It's cuz ur a puss and can't ride I've owned alot of 2 strokes and my cr250 didn't have shit on my trx450, that's y I got a crf450r cuz it takes alot to make a 2 stroke run like the new 4 strokes, learn to ride
@thews21 it takes alot to make a 2-stroke run with the 4's? are you high? it takes almost twice the cc's for a 4-stroke to run with a 2-stroke. and as far as "the pros ride 4-strokes" im so sick of that comeback, they ride them because they are paid to, because the rules give them an unfair displacement advantage, and because the track designs are catered to 4-strokes. im not anti 4-stroke im just sick and tired of people arguing that an inferior engine design is better
ok now the kx500 would lose in the long run as proven but add another gear on there its a different ball game... because im pretty sure the kx500s had 4 gears! also if your going short distance that crf's rider would be spitting out roost for the rest of the day!!
ok the crf250r has more bottom end power so of course it will beat a cr250 in the long run! but a cr250 would most likely pull off in front in the beggining! and i could get lots of 2 strokes that would beat that crf250r!
@6KENNETHY 4-strokes do not have more low end torque, they may be more manageable off the bottom but an equal sized 2-stroke will make around 10ft/lbs of torque more off the bottom
@MrGoDzMoDz i agree but it think they're better because they're lighter, have way less moving parts, are cheaper to maintain, more fun to ride, they handle better, the list goes on and on
@xchsjd 4 stroke cant start 4 shit, it takes a couple of trys 2 get em started, if there was a race 2 stroke would win, same with quads a 2 stroke qaudzilla is equal to a 4 stroke 1000
@xchsjd 4 strokes are not for speed there for fun & non experienced riders, 2 strokes are for riders who know what there doing & like to go fast(like myself) thank u very much -_-
I know I am going to get shut down for this, but the crf450r is just a faster and better powered bike... The skill between the two riders was very even.. The video just proved this obviously.. Honda's forever
@Hondarider200r im going to shut you down sorry the kx 500 not only has more hp and torque but being the 2 stroke it is the trottle responce and power band kick ass and take for example how any 250 2stroke will kick any brand new fuel injected 250f and the 250 2stroke hasnt recived any up dates since 2006 and i chose my kx500 any day over my crf450r and my xr650r THE KX IS THE PERFECT BIKE !!!! :D PS sorry for shutting you down XD
Une 500 2 temps est une machine tres puissante a tous les regimes.
Ce sont des machines pour pilotes tres expérimentés.
Sur le plat tu vois pas trop la différence (c'est question de moticité), mais sur un terrain la KX 500, CR 500 , YZ 490 sont des machines tres dangereuse pour le commun des mortels.
Si tu crois qu'avoir cette KX te permettra d'etre devant ... Tu te fais des illusions
J'ai connu un international 500 dans les annees 85, lui il maitrisait sa YZ490
@CR500freak HAHAHA let me guess, you have freestyle cut black plastics and a bald tire from road racing your ultimate motocross racing dinosaur. The only thing that bike will ever do is blow smoke and vibrate the bars right out of your hands
I don't think people imagine the real power of these bikes.
Take a 500-2, 60 hp. An HP can lift 75 kg to 1 meter in 1 sec.
So when the bike is at 6000 rpm it give you 60 hp (100% power).
Pass first gear, leave the clutch quickly (good luck).
You+bike=200 kg, it may lift you from the ground to H. (H=60*75/200).
H=22 meters up in 1 sec !!! Even it is 15 meters, what I mean , a pilot use the power he needs not the power he has. Be happy not to give always power to the ground.
Having really 30-35 hp (125-2,250-4), 45-50 hp (250-2,450-4) or 60-65 hp (500-2), is not very important on a track where it is difficult to give the power to the ground. Don't look at the power the honda-kawa... gives on the paper , they were so funny (increasing 2 HP each year for the same engine sometimes. Ex :48-52-55-58 for 250 CR). They stopped to give the power of there bike because, if no.. The honda 250 cr had 75 hp today,more than 500 cr (marketing power).
2 strokes 500 are monsters (CR, KX, 490YZ). Few people can really use them on short track. Racing straight line is not a race. Of course the 500 could be faster if it had the good kit chain. But in motocross, a good pilot could explode many of us with a 80 (sure with a 125). The man is 80% in motocross on a bike he likes to ride.
@stefan11hv Well yes and no. You have 3 options with a standard clutch when up shifting and here they are slow to fast in shift and acceleration speed. 1. You let off the gas and pull in clutch, shift, let out the clutch while getting back on the power. 2. You chop the throttle and shift 3. You keep the throttle wide open and pull in the clutch just enough to shift. - In short they should be using option 3 in this video and a stock machine is not deigned to shift under full load :)
the kx is old and has steal part with no computer mapping just the basic
the crf highly tunned race bike all aluminum part so weight will be close when will people get it through your head 4 strokes are better i have drove 2 stroke i used to say four stroke sucked till i got one and 2 days later my kx was sold
Funny how all these kids with the Briggs and Stratton powered bikes and quads think they are fast....they are great for lawn mowers and stuff.....kinda like my buds that try to tell me they are happily married....dont believe it...
the gearing of the newer 4 strokes is setup for high speed but is not on older open class 2 strokes just a matter of gearing but power wise the 2 strokes produce way more power per cm3.
@85cc144 the kx500 remained virtually unchanged from 1986 til 04, other than a few different valve settings and some new sticker kits. have a look at a picture of an 04 and a picture of an 89, same thing.
in a short distance run, the 450 will beat a 500 2 stroke. but if you get into a long stretch, you can't compete with a good ol' 500cc 2 stroke! Braaaaap!
i ripped on a 06 KX250f with my old 00" RM 125. kept with it till 3rd gear. my 03 RM 250 DESTROYED it. the 450f kept up till 3rd.
did you listen to the rpms these guys are in? this isnt a race, its them dickin around on a beach. those motors are at LOW RPM. they sound like there not getting past 6k.
Gearing on the kx 500 is too short. The late 500's are geared for track racing. My yz 490 2-stroke is wide and so is dustry abbot and his team of kx 500 desert racers. 140mph+ no joke. That's just too fast in the dirt. Hope to accomplish that 1 day...
The KX500 was suppossed to win, its got more displacement and its a 2 stroke. Gearing, fuel, or something isn't right in this scenario. Two strokes are still better, we're still racing 125's with 250F's and 250R's with 450F's and so on. Green means go
1st and 2nd gear on ashphalt 2004 CRF 450 is faster than my 2001 KX 250... 3rd and 4th gear, i come back neck to neck with the 450CRF, 5th gear he goes ahead by maybe 2 bikes lenght. My rear sproket is a 51 teeth, the crf is 46... reason why he is faster on top end!
Will not beleive the 450CRF is faster than a 500KX... otherwise that would mean i could be the KX 500 for top speed!
@357207 yeah my dad owns one my uncle had an old xr 600 4-stroke rebuilt and would and will never ever touch that 500. and ppl tell me 2-strokes suck ya maybe their moms balls
Just A Tip! The KX500 in this video is running too rich, if you lean it out and replace the back sprocket with two tooth smaller sprocket- You will cut down on your take off speed a little but, your over speed will be greater and should smoke the 4 stroke every time!!!!!
@xXKaWaSaKiXx64 completely I agree no Idea !!! your on freakin beach sand if you can't smoke that 4 stroke than you cant ride a 2 smoke no matter what. you feel me Dog ? ok given the the start of course if you are from a dead stop that kx 500 will eat that 450 for all three meals no matter what sprocket you have on it I own one I know !!!
@paintballor that kx 500 is dead you can hear it doesnt even whine sounds like a slug what a bad comparison of 2 stroke vs 4 bet it blows up next week (kx500) racing a 15 yr old bike against a new 4 stroke if bud new his shit that kx would kill it,pull your balls out of your womans purse
@MegaFubar1 fuck you man. your the typical youtuber who talks shit when these guys are clearly going balls out on some of the fastest dirtbikes in the world
@Liberalsuck100 they are all good bikes as long as you know how to take care of them i'm a kawasaki person obviously but i've seen some bad kawi's and it almost makes you wanna kill the person who owns it
ok my dads 1995 kx 500 tops out at 135.09 on a dyno and 138 on street in mph and the reason the 450 beat it on this video was because it weighs almost 80lbs heavier and on sand with dirt tires weight sure makes a difference and @Blackbird3838 my 2001 kx250 go's 100 mph they honestly dont make a 4 stroke that can compete with a 500 cc 2 stroke thumbs up if u agree and no i'm not a honda hater.. ima yamaha hater
the new 450's are fast on top end, its unbelievable, and a big part is how your break them in, i gotta 2011 450, and so does my buddy his tops out at 80, and mine will touch around 103. break em in how you ride em :)
@Frets0nFirePhenom yea but the 500 didnt accelerate much faster then the 450 in the video.. idk maby tracktion ? but then that would be the same for the 450
@Frets0nFirePhenom yea but its possible to make there top speeds the same, then there acceleration on the sand would be closer. the 500 is a 2 stroke and 2 strokes are a lot quicker so it won in the beggining but then the 450 caught up in the long run cause it either had a higher top speed or was geared taller.
@Frets0nFirePhenom then that means if u lowered the gearing on the 450 then that would increase its acceleration, which would make its speed slower. then there top speeds would be the same and acceleration..
here yea know when ur on the 2storks yea dont use the cluch when your driveing you only us it 2 take of and stoping it has a wet cluch thats why yea dont have 2 us the cluch yea can keep the trotle back and chance gears . leave it go a little bit if you want but there is no need to us the cluch if its a 2stork
What a load of crap. The KX500 will run circles around any 450 4-stroke
4TruthMatters 1 day ago
the only thumper i lost to on my cr500 was a heavily modified xr650... and that was probably due to traction.
USCisgay 2 days ago
Motobomb55 u r rite I'm leaving the track now and I raced a ktm250 2stroke and ate him up strictly cuz he spun and could not catch me, some love 2 stroke some love 4, but in a race I gotta go with the 4 because I feel like they pull harder, and if I can find a 300ktm 2stroke ima race it and post it!
thews21 5 days ago
damn i can see the curviture of the earth !!!
bigblazer7325 5 days ago
I'm goin from a 250sx to a rmz 450, I've been riding for about six years and I would have to say I have more control with 4ts more traction and more confidence to hit a crazy looking jump I never had with the 2t, yeah they may be more expensive buy I think its a good price to pay for something more enjoyable to ride, it's not about power or speed it's about confidence in your abilities, but they really do have more power it just doesn't come all at once , it let's you used ever ounce of hp in a
motobomb55 1 week ago
0:25 looks a little wobbly on the CRF!!! haha :)
32Cakes 1 week ago
u have the best lives
sgtkhodj 1 week ago
you people act like its a huge deal about some ones personal preference. 2 strokes and 4 strokes are obviously both good or else there wouldnt be a market for either of them.
golfwang4 1 week ago
that kx if running right would EAT that POS 4stroke ALIVE!!
busterhieny 1 week ago
U have a good point
thews21 1 week ago
And I don't think 4 stokes r better than 2 I've had them all and the best bike I've had was a cr125 I could not kill it but every 2 stroke I've ever had got smoked by 4 strokes with weaker riders I just think for a 2 stroke to be faster than a 4 it needs alot of work
thews21 1 week ago
@thews21 well yea a 2-stroke takes alot more work to go fast on, they have more power but you have to be able to use it, thats where the 4-stroke is better its alot easier to use the full potential of the power. and the crf-450 is going to have more torque cuz its a 450 put a 250f against a 250t and the 250t will blow it away in overall power. as far as what bike a ktm 300 will make more torque and horsepower than most 450's
xchsjd 1 week ago
Xch well if ur 2 stokes had more low end torque plz tell me how what reeds and pipe "and bike" cuz all I ever rode was Hondas and the cr250 didn't have crap compared to my crf450 and also I smoke cr250s with my trx450er with HRC kit
thews21 1 week ago
Xch, I race u any day of the week with my 4 stroke and if u can beat me I'll give u both my bikes, 2 stroke have no bottom end compared to a 4 stroke y'all should try riding the bikes y'all talk about
thews21 1 week ago
@thews21 ive owned and ridden both, 4-strokes do pull better off the bottom but they do not make more low end power compared to a same size 2-stroke, theyre both great bikes i loved both my 2-strokes and my 4-stroke,
xchsjd 1 week ago
Where is this beach?????
CRF250XRider007 1 week ago
sprocket gear ratio
louis6050 2 weeks ago
Wolfgang u r 100% rite I was just trying to make a point about the new 4 strokes r fast I had them all man and my best sounding bike was a 86 atc250r with a fmf fatty
thews21 2 weeks ago
that kx is roasted. a real 500 2 stroke would have ripped a trench right down that beach on the back wheel.
wolfgang29 2 weeks ago
Premixoctane, what bike do u have? Cuz the 2011 r diff form 2012 the 12 have more bottom end
thews21 2 weeks ago
Whats with all the (It's the rider not the bike) BS it's flat land ffs.
auygdogg 2 weeks ago
Judging by ur name I'm sure ur already on a 2 stroke, but try a 450 instead of a 250, I bet u would like it
thews21 2 weeks ago
@thews21 thats not my bike its a freind of mine,its a 01 cr250r that rips
Premixoctane 2 weeks ago
If 2 strokes r so much faster n better some one tell me y they don't race them in AMA. If u like 2 strokes and have a secret to make them faster than the new 4 strokes, that's good for u, I had a 86 250r, 2000cr250 and both bikes got smoked by a trx450er with an HRC kit I switched to 4 stroke when that same bike pulled away from a "85 atc500 swap" the only 2 stroke that still has my respect is the 2010+ af cr500 from service Honda
thews21 2 weeks ago
@thews21 everyone likes one or the other i ride a 2 stroke because its easy to maintain and cheap to fix. and they sounds freakin awsome. 4 strokes are great if you can afford one. i like both
wolfgang29 2 weeks ago
@thews21 They dont race them in the AMA because the big 4 want you to buy the more expensive 4 strokes and the EPA is banning 2 strokes all over for burning oil. Why do you think the classes are 250 and 450 instead of 125 and 250? probably not bc 4 strokes are faster......
1quickWS6 2 weeks ago
It's cuz ur a puss and can't ride I've owned alot of 2 strokes and my cr250 didn't have shit on my trx450, that's y I got a crf450r cuz it takes alot to make a 2 stroke run like the new 4 strokes, learn to ride
thews21 2 weeks ago
@thews21 Well gd on yah,wish i never got the 2012 crf250 so under powered and heavy. will sell soon,considering switch 2 a smoker maybe?
Premixoctane 2 weeks ago
@thews21 it takes alot to make a 2-stroke run with the 4's? are you high? it takes almost twice the cc's for a 4-stroke to run with a 2-stroke. and as far as "the pros ride 4-strokes" im so sick of that comeback, they ride them because they are paid to, because the rules give them an unfair displacement advantage, and because the track designs are catered to 4-strokes. im not anti 4-stroke im just sick and tired of people arguing that an inferior engine design is better
xchsjd 1 week ago
@xchsjd im high dude im not gonna lie.
mrputo27 1 week ago
@mrputo27 hahaha
xchsjd 1 week ago
Shit shit learn to ride nob
MrNichols23 2 weeks ago
Many people here can ride a 450-4
... Few people knows a 500-2t is...
During 1985 , in france,Yamaha sold 15 or 20 yz 490 each year.
I imagine honda or kawa sold a little more.
These bike was for half-pro and pro pilots.
They stopped these bikes because 3 bike was too much
here ... the kx has no prob .
At the touquet enduro, a 500 could ride 160 km/h during line speed
This KX has no problem and comes to 100 km/h faster than the 450-2
But 100 is the max speed for a standard motocross bike
abinadvd 3 weeks ago
And the crf 450 has 5 gears u damn stupid ass
thews21 3 weeks ago
I'll smoke u any day of the week with ur 500cc terd go play back in the 80s with the rest of the Dinos cuz that old junk don't stand a chance
thews21 3 weeks ago
Just lettin' 'em rip on the beach - love it
getonthethrottle 3 weeks ago
ok now the kx500 would lose in the long run as proven but add another gear on there its a different ball game... because im pretty sure the kx500s had 4 gears! also if your going short distance that crf's rider would be spitting out roost for the rest of the day!!
6KENNETHY 3 weeks ago
@6KENNETHY The KX 500has 5 gears, like most 500 2strokes, but the weak ass CRF 450 has 6 gears
brapboys503 3 weeks ago
Get any 2 stroke and put it agains the 2012 crf250r and the 2 stroke will get smoked I know this because I got smoked by an 05 on my 2001 cr250
thews21 4 weeks ago
ok the crf250r has more bottom end power so of course it will beat a cr250 in the long run! but a cr250 would most likely pull off in front in the beggining! and i could get lots of 2 strokes that would beat that crf250r!
6KENNETHY 3 weeks ago
@6KENNETHY 4-strokes do not have more low end torque, they may be more manageable off the bottom but an equal sized 2-stroke will make around 10ft/lbs of torque more off the bottom
xchsjd 1 week ago
@xchsjd a 2stroke is 2x what a 4 stroke would be on acceleration thats why there better,
MrGoDzMoDz 1 week ago
@MrGoDzMoDz i agree but it think they're better because they're lighter, have way less moving parts, are cheaper to maintain, more fun to ride, they handle better, the list goes on and on
xchsjd 1 week ago
@xchsjd 4 stroke cant start 4 shit, it takes a couple of trys 2 get em started, if there was a race 2 stroke would win, same with quads a 2 stroke qaudzilla is equal to a 4 stroke 1000
MrGoDzMoDz 1 week ago
@MrGoDzMoDz exactly
xchsjd 1 week ago
@xchsjd but i race 4 strokes anyway so idc
MrGoDzMoDz 1 week ago
@MrGoDzMoDz yea 4-strokes are alot easier to go fast on but idk i like the 2-strokes just because theyre more fun IMHO
xchsjd 1 week ago
@xchsjd 4 strokes are not for speed there for fun & non experienced riders, 2 strokes are for riders who know what there doing & like to go fast(like myself) thank u very much -_-
MrGoDzMoDz 1 week ago
@thews21 You foolish child, run that shitty 4-choke against a KTM MX-500 and watch nothing but dirt hit you in the face. Or a YZ-490. SMOKED!!
brapboys503 3 weeks ago
@thews21 ur full of shit dude,i own 2012 crf250 my freinds 2001 honda cr250r is a fast 2 stroke,i cant beat him?
Premixoctane 2 weeks ago
I know I am going to get shut down for this, but the crf450r is just a faster and better powered bike... The skill between the two riders was very even.. The video just proved this obviously.. Honda's forever
Hondarider200r 1 month ago
@Hondarider200r im going to shut you down sorry the kx 500 not only has more hp and torque but being the 2 stroke it is the trottle responce and power band kick ass and take for example how any 250 2stroke will kick any brand new fuel injected 250f and the 250 2stroke hasnt recived any up dates since 2006 and i chose my kx500 any day over my crf450r and my xr650r THE KX IS THE PERFECT BIKE !!!! :D PS sorry for shutting you down XD
almostalways803 1 month ago
Faut arréter les conneries.
Une 500 2 temps est une machine tres puissante a tous les regimes.
Ce sont des machines pour pilotes tres expérimentés.
Sur le plat tu vois pas trop la différence (c'est question de moticité), mais sur un terrain la KX 500, CR 500 , YZ 490 sont des machines tres dangereuse pour le commun des mortels.
Si tu crois qu'avoir cette KX te permettra d'etre devant ... Tu te fais des illusions
J'ai connu un international 500 dans les annees 85, lui il maitrisait sa YZ490
abinadvd 2 months ago
thats topspeed, lets see in acceleration.
+ that KX has to be much older cause they havent been made for 10 years. lets see them 100% stock perfect condition.
i hate pussy strokes
MrPetter1000 2 months ago
did anyone else see the eclipse
greenpeach100 2 months ago
lol the kx was roosting the whole way
666ilikepie 2 months ago
where is this at?
ThisIsTrueHouseMusic 3 months ago
Gear up that 2-stroke , their top speeds are not the same
ntxic8td 3 months ago
Its hard to tell which bike has more power. They seem pretty equal until there maxed out, but that's not power that's the gearing.
sethmilll 3 months ago
@firefusion40 theres no way that 450 would be that kx500. my dads old 500 went 110 5th pinned. 500's are the fastest bikes out there by far
TG4UxRider4life 3 months ago
This video is a lie. Its the honda with the kx500 engine in ;)
Billym247 3 months ago
try to race that 4-stroke-piece-of-junk against my CR500.
CR500freak 3 months ago
@CR500freak HAHAHA let me guess, you have freestyle cut black plastics and a bald tire from road racing your ultimate motocross racing dinosaur. The only thing that bike will ever do is blow smoke and vibrate the bars right out of your hands
kx454 3 months ago
@kx454 why guess? you shouldn't go to a casino.. you'd defenately lose with your guessing... Check my beachrace clips stinksok
CR500freak 3 months ago
I don't think people imagine the real power of these bikes.
Take a 500-2, 60 hp. An HP can lift 75 kg to 1 meter in 1 sec.
So when the bike is at 6000 rpm it give you 60 hp (100% power).
Pass first gear, leave the clutch quickly (good luck).
You+bike=200 kg, it may lift you from the ground to H. (H=60*75/200).
H=22 meters up in 1 sec !!! Even it is 15 meters, what I mean , a pilot use the power he needs not the power he has. Be happy not to give always power to the ground.
abinadvd 3 months ago 3
Having really 30-35 hp (125-2,250-4), 45-50 hp (250-2,450-4) or 60-65 hp (500-2), is not very important on a track where it is difficult to give the power to the ground. Don't look at the power the honda-kawa... gives on the paper , they were so funny (increasing 2 HP each year for the same engine sometimes. Ex :48-52-55-58 for 250 CR). They stopped to give the power of there bike because, if no.. The honda 250 cr had 75 hp today,more than 500 cr (marketing power).
abinadvd 3 months ago
2 strokes 500 are monsters (CR, KX, 490YZ). Few people can really use them on short track. Racing straight line is not a race. Of course the 500 could be faster if it had the good kit chain. But in motocross, a good pilot could explode many of us with a 80 (sure with a 125). The man is 80% in motocross on a bike he likes to ride.
abinadvd 3 months ago
you dont have to use clutch when shifting!!
stefan11hv 3 months ago
@stefan11hv Well yes and no. You have 3 options with a standard clutch when up shifting and here they are slow to fast in shift and acceleration speed. 1. You let off the gas and pull in clutch, shift, let out the clutch while getting back on the power. 2. You chop the throttle and shift 3. You keep the throttle wide open and pull in the clutch just enough to shift. - In short they should be using option 3 in this video and a stock machine is not deigned to shift under full load :)
Aspired329 3 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
thumbs up if you think you can see an eclipse at 1.35?
mxrider429 4 months ago
the kx is old and has steal part with no computer mapping just the basic
the crf highly tunned race bike all aluminum part so weight will be close when will people get it through your head 4 strokes are better i have drove 2 stroke i used to say four stroke sucked till i got one and 2 days later my kx was sold
billyman1221 4 months ago
At 0:29 is when the KX rider decides mr 450 is getting too cocky and opens her up full! lol
CONTRASTSCHUMACHER 4 months ago
the kx short shifted
CarFreaksVideos 4 months ago
dude i could do that all day, top speed forever lol, nice vid
BrocBolin 4 months ago
man this place is fucking beautiful
youlikeguys1 4 months ago 28
that kx should be ruining the crf!!
IIcR0cZZv 4 months ago 2
Funny how all these kids with the Briggs and Stratton powered bikes and quads think they are fast....they are great for lawn mowers and stuff.....kinda like my buds that try to tell me they are happily married....dont believe it...
tecatedrag 4 months ago
oh.... what a wonderful world ?
Mr6mmbullet 4 months ago
great vid
trealawboy3 5 months ago
the gearing of the newer 4 strokes is setup for high speed but is not on older open class 2 strokes just a matter of gearing but power wise the 2 strokes produce way more power per cm3.
gsxrful 5 months ago
@85cc144 the kx500 remained virtually unchanged from 1986 til 04, other than a few different valve settings and some new sticker kits. have a look at a picture of an 04 and a picture of an 89, same thing.
the motor remained the exact same since 86
KXRider212 5 months ago
@85cc144 that 500 is from 1986 LOL
KXRider212 5 months ago
Just looks like fun, the 500 fluent sound like he ever really pinned it. But the difference in load and technology is big.. See the sag on the 500?
kwaky2005 5 months ago
the dream !!!
menuisierman 5 months ago
that crf sounds like my lawnmower
thormx999 5 months ago
in a short distance run, the 450 will beat a 500 2 stroke. but if you get into a long stretch, you can't compete with a good ol' 500cc 2 stroke! Braaaaap!
WaWagasman 5 months ago
Comment removed
xKILLZONAx 5 months ago
@WaWagasman are you high?
i ripped on a 06 KX250f with my old 00" RM 125. kept with it till 3rd gear. my 03 RM 250 DESTROYED it. the 450f kept up till 3rd.
did you listen to the rpms these guys are in? this isnt a race, its them dickin around on a beach. those motors are at LOW RPM. they sound like there not getting past 6k.
xKILLZONAx 5 months ago
@WaWagasman wrong way around lol
swat7853 3 months ago
Gearing on the kx 500 is too short. The late 500's are geared for track racing. My yz 490 2-stroke is wide and so is dustry abbot and his team of kx 500 desert racers. 140mph+ no joke. That's just too fast in the dirt. Hope to accomplish that 1 day...
fighter4christ7 5 months ago
The KX500 was suppossed to win, its got more displacement and its a 2 stroke. Gearing, fuel, or something isn't right in this scenario. Two strokes are still better, we're still racing 125's with 250F's and 250R's with 450F's and so on. Green means go
wabashofutah 5 months ago
pismo beach?
MrUrmother22 5 months ago
This is probably one of a few places that you really can get the real potential of a KX500!
wq1299 5 months ago
Also Honda copy maicos handling. So when you ride a Honda you can thank the German engineers at the maico factory.
husky500cr 5 months ago
honda=all around better bike
peeleselements1 6 months ago
the kx is short shifting
PivotSk8erTommy 6 months ago
lol m8 your kx have a bigggg problem.....
hinatta2121 6 months ago
The kx500 needs a tooth bigger front sprocket.
But in fairness you could gear both bikes up until a tank slapper ended their day.
21" front wheels are not designed for high speed stability.
datssumfunnyshit 6 months ago
wheelies would be hard to do in the sand unless its like a little hard or sumthin
SUPERbeast71121 6 months ago
It's all about gearing. The 500 clearly has more power, but this bike is not set up correctly for top-speed.
steveak93 6 months ago
laugh at how all these 4 stroke nazis are pissed about how their precious 500 lost. :)
caboose365 6 months ago
Either way, it looks like a lot of fun !!!!!!!
TS50ER 6 months ago
I think the KX is due for a rebuild.
therealsatan 6 months ago
aint that a kx250? cuzz a 500 would rape a 450f
tanner2254 6 months ago
I think the Kx500 was in 2nd gear the whole time.
HerpDerpZerk 6 months ago
Hondaaa!!!
ROOSSSMA 6 months ago
Deux tapettes en motocross, après il ont fait un break sur le cul, deux fifs qui savent pas utilisé un motocross.
eonlinuxqc 6 months ago
It's all about the sprockets people
MyJodster 6 months ago
hes not even in the power band
mrdipsalot 6 months ago
1st and 2nd gear on ashphalt 2004 CRF 450 is faster than my 2001 KX 250... 3rd and 4th gear, i come back neck to neck with the 450CRF, 5th gear he goes ahead by maybe 2 bikes lenght. My rear sproket is a 51 teeth, the crf is 46... reason why he is faster on top end!
Will not beleive the 450CRF is faster than a 500KX... otherwise that would mean i could be the KX 500 for top speed!
fauteb 6 months ago
Sick spot ! nothing like this here :P ( Quebec )
davbutcher 6 months ago
i bet that 500 has another gear ;)
SmokeCentral 6 months ago
the 500 is too busy losing traction to keep up! but its probably actually a 250
RallyRipper 6 months ago
I would loveto live there.
toe2toecory 6 months ago
where can u ride on the beach like this?
Tleffew1 7 months ago
@justinchaffin1013 acually i can afford one....oh wait i can afford 3 i have two yz450f's and one crf 450 sooo yeah i think i can afford it...
400jpm 7 months ago
@400jpm thats right you shut him up, btw nice bikes
lookmekillu 7 months ago
4 strokes are like tampons. every pussy needs one.
SILENTWEEZIL 7 months ago
4 strokes allll dayyy bitchesss!!!
400jpm 7 months ago
@400jpm yet you probally cant afford 1 (:
justinchaffin1013 7 months ago
tell me y this 4 stroke is winning!?
MrMatapz 7 months ago
@MrMatapz bc its a honda nota kawi, lol
william16339 7 months ago
@william16339 hahahh right !
MrMatapz 7 months ago
@MrMatapz lol
william16339 7 months ago
@william16339 lol but i got the same bike so i cant say shit
MrMatapz 7 months ago
@MrMatapz honda?? lol
william16339 7 months ago
@william16339 lol yup
MrMatapz 7 months ago
@357207 yeah my dad owns one my uncle had an old xr 600 4-stroke rebuilt and would and will never ever touch that 500. and ppl tell me 2-strokes suck ya maybe their moms balls
xXKaWaSaKiXx64 7 months ago
that's all you got man your weak. man I can walk my kx 500 down 2 miles of the beach I live on. "pratice"
357207 7 months ago
Just A Tip! The KX500 in this video is running too rich, if you lean it out and replace the back sprocket with two tooth smaller sprocket- You will cut down on your take off speed a little but, your over speed will be greater and should smoke the 4 stroke every time!!!!!
mlydiav 7 months ago
i love how u can see each time the kx changes gear
SiMo666suzukiRider 7 months ago
@KSWR500Z dude you have no idea
xXKaWaSaKiXx64 7 months ago
@xXKaWaSaKiXx64 completely I agree no Idea !!! your on freakin beach sand if you can't smoke that 4 stroke than you cant ride a 2 smoke no matter what. you feel me Dog ? ok given the the start of course if you are from a dead stop that kx 500 will eat that 450 for all three meals no matter what sprocket you have on it I own one I know !!!
357207 7 months ago
what is that black point in the sky?? 1:41
txapiston 7 months ago 33
@txapiston its the sun, its from the camera.
skateemerica134 7 months ago
@txapiston the sun
nomercy116 7 months ago
@txapiston apocalypse
jojomoor 7 months ago
@txapiston the sun........
thatpatrickdude0 6 months ago
@txapiston A FUCKIN UFO LOL
paintballor 6 months ago 25
@paintballor that kx 500 is dead you can hear it doesnt even whine sounds like a slug what a bad comparison of 2 stroke vs 4 bet it blows up next week (kx500) racing a 15 yr old bike against a new 4 stroke if bud new his shit that kx would kill it,pull your balls out of your womans purse
MegaFubar1 4 months ago 17
@MegaFubar1 ur fuckin dum
paintballor 4 months ago
@MegaFubar1 fuck you man. your the typical youtuber who talks shit when these guys are clearly going balls out on some of the fastest dirtbikes in the world
bandguy360 1 month ago
@txapiston that my friend.. is the sun.
m1ck3n 6 months ago
@txapiston its the camera...
skateemerica134 6 months ago
@txapiston the sun
atvriderman17 6 months ago
@txapiston probably a balloon, i see those at the beach all the time. Haha
cardonetheguido 6 months ago
@txapiston thats the sun
MrSuperduperic 6 months ago
@txapiston i believe he is filming with a gopro hero these amazing cameras will black out the sun to reduce glare.
romdurb101 6 months ago
@txapiston the sun... Go Pro Cameras have this feature for better video quality without the daze
doobyboy21 6 months ago
@txapiston the sun
quadzngunz 6 months ago
@txapiston the sun haha
HpiBlitzRazing 6 months ago
@txapiston most cameras make the middle of the sun black but for whatever reason they do that is beyond me
djmadalrian 5 months ago
@txapiston Sun
fighter4christ7 5 months ago
@txapiston the sun
scrapcrapMandM 5 months ago
@txapiston is the moon
Grilin99 5 months ago
@txapiston the sun
YamahaYZ854ever 5 months ago
@txapiston It's what some cameras do to stop the lense from breaking.
TomBudinMusic 4 months ago
@txapiston the end of the world
SkinnySkinch 4 months ago
@txapiston some cameras block the sun out so it doesn't ruin the rest of the image
SkinnySkinch 4 months ago
@Liberalsuck100 they are all good bikes as long as you know how to take care of them i'm a kawasaki person obviously but i've seen some bad kawi's and it almost makes you wanna kill the person who owns it
xXKaWaSaKiXx64 7 months ago
30 year old 2-strokes RULE!!!
steaknkibble 7 months ago
ok my dads 1995 kx 500 tops out at 135.09 on a dyno and 138 on street in mph and the reason the 450 beat it on this video was because it weighs almost 80lbs heavier and on sand with dirt tires weight sure makes a difference and @Blackbird3838 my 2001 kx250 go's 100 mph they honestly dont make a 4 stroke that can compete with a 500 cc 2 stroke thumbs up if u agree and no i'm not a honda hater.. ima yamaha hater
xXKaWaSaKiXx64 7 months ago
@xXKaWaSaKiXx64 I would agree with you but im a Yamaha person.
Liberalsuck100 7 months ago
the new 450's are fast on top end, its unbelievable, and a big part is how your break them in, i gotta 2011 450, and so does my buddy his tops out at 80, and mine will touch around 103. break em in how you ride em :)
Blackbird3838 7 months ago
Actually 1981 KTM 495 holds the record at 123.6mph
crankbearing 7 months ago
@Frets0nFirePhenom idk maybe
sSTRE3TDR3EMZz94 7 months ago
@Frets0nFirePhenom yea but the 500 didnt accelerate much faster then the 450 in the video.. idk maby tracktion ? but then that would be the same for the 450
sSTRE3TDR3EMZz94 8 months ago
@Frets0nFirePhenom yea but its possible to make there top speeds the same, then there acceleration on the sand would be closer. the 500 is a 2 stroke and 2 strokes are a lot quicker so it won in the beggining but then the 450 caught up in the long run cause it either had a higher top speed or was geared taller.
sSTRE3TDR3EMZz94 8 months ago
@Frets0nFirePhenom lowering the gearing on the 450 would increase its acceleration and slow it down
sSTRE3TDR3EMZz94 8 months ago
i never did like kx....or honda but its slowly earning my respect.....i only rode a 250 and an xr 100..yamaha and suzuki ftw
lee756 8 months ago
@Frets0nFirePhenom then that means if u lowered the gearing on the 450 then that would increase its acceleration, which would make its speed slower. then there top speeds would be the same and acceleration..
sSTRE3TDR3EMZz94 8 months ago
here yea know when ur on the 2storks yea dont use the cluch when your driveing you only us it 2 take of and stoping it has a wet cluch thats why yea dont have 2 us the cluch yea can keep the trotle back and chance gears . leave it go a little bit if you want but there is no need to us the cluch if its a 2stork
DanielC947 8 months ago