IOUSA Solutions: Part 4 of 5

[facetiousiam]

This segment was written by a quiet political POS. What tough decisions will you make? Should the Fat American that chooses to remain fat and continue to smoke be allowed the same benefits of an American that attempts to help America out by being healthy? Though decisions there eh?

[SpiritSpaceMovie]

We are getting fatter and fatter. The bigger our waistlines the more health problems will shall acquire. Thus THE PRICE GOES UP. We are a fat fat fat culture here in America.

[SpiritSpaceMovie]

The healthcare cost in America has risen lock and step with the rise in America's obesity problem.

[alvatrous]

This is somewhat socialist but quite logical i like it :)

[moistfaucet]

health care cost all go to Wall Street. what else to check ?

[sillyspasm]

The only problem with these reforms is that it would take an entire legislative session at best for each one to be debated, bastardized, and finally passed.

[Warsie]

I find it funny how @ 5:55 or so the narrator is very short on the 'better decisions of end of life care' and how he phrased it is like 'dont take them behind the barn and shoot them' xD

[condobeacon]

These morons are detached from the reality of prices in an economy. Go read Bastiat and Mises before making another moronic movie like this...

[bingramtube]

Snap and snarl all you want ! Beat your chest and blame it on ...the old folks...the young folks..blacks, browns and the greens too...we will not get what we need until

lobbyism is a felony...lobbyism is Bribery of our elected officials... if bribery is legal, (which it is), do you think your vote matters ??

[quadcatfly]

everyone past 65 must be sentenced for termination by obama's death panels. 80 million boomers in the ditch. problem solved.

OBAMA- BIDEN 2012 !!!

[ahhhitsjay]

Well, I made it through 1 minute and as soon as I saw the dumbass ranking system made by the WHO - World Health Organization, who BTW is run by the U.N (hates our guts) I turned off the video. Before people go off of that, check HOW they got that information, and WHO they get it from and HOW they based their information. It's dumb. The U.S is ranked number 37 behind Costa Rica?! Please...

[MrNellyred]

Americans will never learn from their past mistakes in handing inefficient programs over to the government. The government is inefficient by nature. The quality of care will not improve. Any time the government has taken over any privatized program, input increased dramatically while output decreased dramatically.

[MRjohnRc]

TAB COLA

[enotdetcelfer]

IOUSA misses the mark when it comes to healthcare. All this talk about how entitlement programs are increasing the debt as a mechanism of their construction and then healthcare legislation is pointed to as a step in the right direction. I was disappointed that IOUSA didn't highlight the real reason healthcare costs have been increasing: health insurance is not being used for insurance but as a care plan.

[lanteew]

@enotdetcelfer right on the mark. Insurance is much different from what people are actually demanding.

Consumers don't want their health care plans to actually be linked to the amount of health care services they use. And the fact that I.O.U.S.A advocates abolishing fee-for-service health care shows that they don't really understand the role of prices in a market.

[COREY377]

bamor223: Good Luck on living off of $2.5million in retirement. Remember that in 20 years of 3% inflation your $2.5million will only have the purchasing power of $1.38million. Not relying on Social Security, you could live on about $70k a year with that...

Now, assuming that Healthcare costs continue at around 7% inflation that would mean that you would pay $3.87 for every $1 you pay today. So a procedure that costs $5k out-of-pocket today would cost you nearly $20k in 20 years.

[HotPotahto]

Why did Malpractice reform get glossed over? Litigation is one, if not the main reason why medical bills are so high.

[WaywardPatriot]

@HotPotahto I concur with this. Malpractice reform and medical litigation reform should be a high priority to reduce waste in the system. It's important that insurance rates for doctors come down, and the only way for that to happen is to get control of punitive damages.

[bamor223]

@WaywardPatriot Medicine today is defensive medicine! We produce 6 Lawyers per MD. The chances of a MD getting sued = 6:1!

My Dad 70yr had a Kidney Stone & Infection. 7 days in Hosp, 20 X-Rays, $400 Tylenol / day, There was a charge for every itch my Dad had, 27 pages of bills $100K, seperate MD, Anestesia, X-Ray. I thought they would charge for my Dads FARTS!

Medicine w/ Govt is structured to Bill & Fleece rather than Comfort & Care!

Welcome to the United Socialist State of America!

[Mrscissorhands25]

But setting price limits is only going to cause problems within the health-care business. I like the idea of informing people of price averages. I don't know where they were going with healthy living...I'm all for it if they just want to advocate it, but if they would like to enforce it they can shove it.

[Mrscissorhands25]

Healthcare: The video first talks about how the recent health-care reform is a good first step. EXCUSE ME?? 2,000 pages of illegible fiscal bureaucracy is a good first step?! And they speak of reducing the debt?? They have a little screw loose. And like most people that aren't paying attention, we do have great health care. Just not affordable health-care haha.

[Mrscissorhands25]

Something I can critique; social security. They spoke about all the options (one of them being raising the income tax) and none of these solutions mentioned getting rid or privatizing it. I like the idea of raising the age limit, but increasing the income taxes is a ridiculous idea. That will only give positions the idea that they can take more from citizens and perpetuate the problem. The way they take are earnings is thievery as it is

[WaywardPatriot]

@Mrscissorhands25 No, no, no! My good man - there is so much incorrect with this line of thinking! The government has been running social security with about 2% overhead for nearly 45 years - to administer your RETIREMENT funds better than a for-profit stock market company? MY GOD man! Look at what the fat-cats on wallstreet did when they got a hold of our mortgages! They played money-games and RUINED them all! Now you want to give the same rich bastards your retirement?

[bamor223]

@WaywardPatriot We are mandated to pay 15% of our salary to Govt FICA. Our Employer matches that so it is actually 30%. Right now it is a ponzie scheme! I want to own my MONEY! If I want to piss on it I can! Add up 30% of your salary over 20 years & in the worst investment it would compound to $1 million! After 30yrs $2.5 Million and after $40 yrs WOW! I would not even need medicare...I could pay with cash or leave my inheritance to my Children rather than my scheming Govt! Its MY PROPERTY!

[WaywardPatriot]

@Mrscissorhands25 Social Security is one of THE most successful programs that the Government has ever come up with!  It is efficient, it provides a social safety net for retiree's that the Stock Market can't, and it is run with amazing little corruption and overhead. Most businesses run @ 10 - 15% overhead. Social Security is about 2% administration costs. That is VERY efficient. What it NEEDS is to have MORE funding and for Congress to stop BORROWING against YOUR retirement dollars!

[cooperbry]

All this health care payment and delivery system BS is nonsense. It's not that, it's that consumers don't pay. If people have to shop for their health care, the problem goes away. If consumers get a bill that has to be paid, they'll shop. This process should be in place even if you have insurance so you can hold service providers accountable. Don't let these silly people talk you into a grandiose government solution that will not do a thing except increase cost.

[WaywardPatriot]

@cooperbry Healthcare is just a little more complicated than going to the supermarket and picking up groceries, dude. There are standards to be maintained. You would be pissed at a company that sold you bad canned goods, so what would you do if an unregulated, unscrupulous company fucking killed you or got you sick? Would you 'shop around' then? What about when your skull is fractured and bleeding from a car wreck...got time to 'SHOP AROUND' now? Its way more complicated than that, dude.

[cooperbry]

It's the government's fault to answer the lady's question. The HMO drove a wedge between the consumer and the provider. Now, no one cares what it cost, that's the problem.

What about looking at the monetary system? Why do we accept a debt based currency and why are we beholden to a central bank? Focusing on spending is important, but, how about we look at the entire system.

Google ModernMoneyMechanics and download.

[WaywardPatriot]

@cooperbry I think you should reconsider your arguments about Health Care, there is tremendous corporate corruption and money/greed influence there. It needs reform, but it's the drug companies and the research companies that are benefiting the most. Do you know that the Medicare Part D actually FORBIDS competition on drug prices? Thats right. Drug companies made it LAW that they can charge WHATEVER they want, as long as the Federal Government is paying.  Is that how you invoice?

[WaywardPatriot]

@cooperbry Lastly, I do agree with what you are saying on the Monetary System. We need to seriously examine a debt-laden currency, and look at solutions like a return to non-interest bearing 'greenback' dollars. It is financial suicide to let our currency be run on I.O.U. notes that can NEVER be paid back. The Federal Reserve won't even let us SEE what it does with the money. We CAN'T audit the MAIN BANK of our Country? That is seriously fucked up.

[cooperbry]

@WaywardPatriot

My argument on health care is that the government screwed it up. Health care and health insurance should be returned to the private enterprise system, then it will improve. They have had their chance and look where we are...

[WaywardPatriot]

@cooperbry I would argue that Health Care has largely been in the hands of the Private Enterprise system for the past 30 years, and look at how we've ended up? Go back and read up on the formation of HMO's during the Nixon years. There is audio-tape of Nixon endorsing HMO's because it's "such a good business model" that it would "increase profit by delivering less service". This is REAL...companies have screwed this all up and kill people EVERY DAY to save dollars on their bottom line.

[WaywardPatriot]

@cooperbry Also, Health Care is not a 'regular good', like other things that work well in an unregulated capitalist market. Health Care is an 'inelastic good', which means that DEMAND for Health Care does not change. Knowing this, if you have COMPANIES that are FOR PROFIT that operate Health-Care, they KNOW they can charge WHATEVER they want...and YOU will pay it. You want to live, don't you? So no...the 'free market' does not work when goods have inelastic demand. Basic economics.

[cooperbry]

@WaywardPatriot

Health care was never a problem before the government got involved. Contrary to popular myth, it's not a right. It's a service that is paid for. Do you have the right to put a gun to your neighbors head and force them to buy something? No, you don't have that right. Not having such a right, we cannot delegate it to the government (we don't posses it).

[WaywardPatriot]

@cooperbry Lesser, poorer countries than the United States recognize that supporting all their citizens most basic needs creates a strong nation. Health Care is one of those needs, a need not well-met by private industry. Health Care SHOULD be a right. According to your argument, we should also not have to pay taxes and cannot be compelled to selective service. BUT WE DO AND ARE.

[sauripley]

Where is the tort reform???

[sauripley]

I believed in IOUSA - thought it was non partisan and the best of the country.

Now I see it is just another propaganda tool for the current administration. The healthcare reform that was passed was no reform - just a power grab - just ask your doctor.

[prayfortruejustice]

8:20 He said, with a can of toxic aspartame on his desk (government - FDA -approved for your consumption).

[bamor223]

Our interventionist tactics of imposing Democracy on immature nations has only cost us Trillions. We do not have the gonads to secure our southern border and we want to sell our way of life to others. Lets start prioritizing things like the 3 founding documents and lets fund those essentials first! Lets stop suing our states! Lets only pass a balanced budget...maybe endangered species do not need 500 million to observe its migration...just a thought.

[WaywardPatriot]

@bamor223 Dude I agree with everything you are saying, but the environment is pretty important. You don't want to live in a grey hellish city-world with no outside and no trees, do you? C'mon...the environment is where we LIVE. You don't want to shit where you LIVE. Everything else you said is cool.

[WaywardPatriot]

@bamor223 We need to see the environment as a resource...we need to make sure that the rules keep the environment productive, and a productive environment is a healthy one. We need strong forests, and carefully managed mines (so as not to wreck the forests). We need clean energy and efficient transport (so as to preserve the transport of our labors), we need fertile oceans with abundant fish. These items need to be managed, man. We NEED these things.

[bamor223]

As a Tea Party participant, I find part 4 disturbing and unacceptable. We need to cut spending NOW...and cut it DEEP! The Federal Govt is involved in too much of our lives and you want REFORM? I have a solution how bout we spend less, Reduce regulation, stop spawning lawyers on the Tax Payers dime, pass only perspicuous legislation, Repeal all 3 of the Wilson Amendments...starting with the 17th, Get the Feds out of our Sovereign States! This is not the United STATE of America!

[WaywardPatriot]

@bamor223 Dude...the Civil War is over. It was a bad idea. We are far better off if we work TOGETHER as Citizens, rather than AGAINST each other as enemies. The REAL enemy? Greedy corporations that corrupt the process with their millions. We need LOBBYING reform, brother! We need to cut off the Hydra's head...the REAL face of the enemy! You don't really want to fight your fellow countrymen, do you? We have a common enemy! Greedy corporations!

[bamor223]

@WaywardPatriot Excellent, patient, maticulious & calm responses. #1 Clean Air & Water is capible, responsible & necessary in my world. Checks & balances will work, we do not need more & more LAWS! #2 Without the threat of succession the Fed has & uses the power to bully our soverign states into submission. An umbrella not a shackel #3 Govt. is less efficient than business. #4 The Constitution shoud Restrains the Fed. #5 Welfare is the domain of the people, not Govt. #6 Soverign States Rights

[bamor223]

@bamor223 People must be self Governed. We are adults w/ adult responsibilities and consequences. A culture of compassion will devolve into a culture of dependency. You are either for EQUALITY or you are for PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT under the LAW! The RICH have the same rights to protect property as POOR! Property & WEALTH is the Peoples not Govt! 6000 page laws benefit 100 Lawyer companies & govt, not the people. Does Govt trust its citizens to make the right decisions for themselves? It should!

[WaywardPatriot]

@bamor223 You are correct. Having complicated, frivolous laws is not a good thing. We cannot have omnibus bills that include 5,000 other laws in them. I'm all for (1) bill for (1) law, and EVERYONE has to read it. I don't care if it slows down government, its a better more fair system that way. The great Constitution itself makes secession illegal! Article 1, Section 10, Paragraph 1, in the

Constitution states that "No state shall enter into any treaty, alliance, or

confederation." ...

[WaywardPatriot]

@bamor223 I agree that the federal government can be very intrusive in certain aspects of our lives, but without a large agency with the force of law behind it, how can we hope to stand up to large corporations? If they can corrupt the Federal Government as poweful as it is, how long do you think it would take for them to corrupt independent, small state governments?  There are corporations in USA that make more than the GDP of STATES in a year. Sovereign states would be sunk in moments.

[WaywardPatriot]

@bamor223 What we NEED to be doing is exercising our rights to redress grievances, and ELECTING people who are not millionaire-plutocrats, these richie-rich scumbags who care nothing for you or me. We can't afford any more corporate-owned politicians, putting the interests of big business before our common good. We have a common enemy - the evil corporations, but our tool to fight them is GOOD GOVERNMENT! We need a strong federal government to protect our rights from these rich bastards.

[WaywardPatriot]

@bamor223 Also, I think we need to put something in perspective - dollar for dollar, we pay about 2-3 cents of every tax dollar for actual 'welfare', that is: people who are out of work or cannot find work, and need money to buy food, clothes, and shelter. Now guess how much we pay to defense contractors who don't deliver products, or in bailouts to failing companies that should die? If you guessed almost 20,500$ tax dollars for each American, you would only be 1/2 right!

[WaywardPatriot]

@bamor223 Wouldn't you like to know that if you lost your job because some company collapsed overnight, your car was wrecked, and your wife left you with all your belongings - that at LEAST you could get some security and income for yourself to help pick up the pieces? Would you deny a hungry family a meal simply because they were poor, and needed foodstamps to buy food? Thats heartless. What is WRONG is our tax dollars bailing out rich bastards that make bad bets in the stock market.

[WaywardPatriot]

@bamor223 It is a common myth that Government is not as efficient as business. It only lacks efficiency because the LAWS make transparency so hard to see! If the Government were inefficient, how could it run the largest, most effective military force the world has ever seen? If the government were inefficient, how could it deliver your mail around the nation for a mere .40 cent postage stamp? Government CAN be more efficient, yes - but WE must MAKE IT SO.

[WaywardPatriot]

@bamor223 Lastly, I'm not trying to pick on you. I just read your first comment and thought - we agree on SO MANY things. We agree that we NEED a strong nation, we agree that we NEED a strong economy, we agree that pointless wars are DULLING our spear. WHY can we not agree on how to GET there? WHY can we not agree on A COMMON ENEMY? I believe our enemy is not the government - WE CAN CHANGE that - its the influence of MONEY in politics. Will you join me, instead of fighting against me?