the book by allan macdonald is honest and horrifying but a must read if one wants to know about what happened and how NASA managers LIED about the warnings and risks, even with the Columbia, they were still LYING. sad but true
I've read the book, and I don't remember the allegations of bad faith being that palpable.
NASA definitely knew there was a serious flaw in the booster design, but they'd gotten away with it 24 times by January 28, 1986.
Given all the political pressure they were under (the government eventually wanted the fleet doing 26 missions annually), it's not surprising that they were willing to take risks that, with the benefit of hindsight, were not justified.
we will never forget them, nor the last time we saw them, this morning, as they prepared for the journey and waved goodbye and 'slipped the surly bonds of earth' to 'touch the face of god
THE CHALLENGER EXPLOSTION WAS NOT CAUSED BY THE ROCKET BUSTERS IT WAS SHOT DOWN BY UFO'S. I SEEN THE ORIGINAL VIDEO SOME LIKE A ROCKET GO TOWARDS THE SHIP WHEN IT EXPLODED.THIS VIDEO IS NOT TRUE ITS JUST ANOTHER COVER UP BY OUR GOVERNMENT TO BLIND YOU FROM THE TRUTH. THERE SOMETHING OR SOMEONE VISITING OUR PLANET. THEY ARE THE GODS OF OLD. NOT ONLY DID I SEE THE ORIGINAL VIDEO OF THE CHALLENGER. BUT IT IS THE BIBLE ISAIAH 14:12-15
I spoke about greed based on what we have all learned through various documentaries. The Challenger could have been spared had they listened to engineers, instead they new they would loose money among other things if they waited, so they gave them the go. It is sad although necessary for the loss of the beautiful people and ships. The astronauts new the risk and made the choice, just as we all do when we do the simple things like drive our car.
"Risk is our business". There is always a risk when attempting to fly into outer space. All it takes is one incredibly small error. This is not a matter of "greed". Everyone who goes up knows there is a chance of disaster, and yet they all take that chance. They are far better people than the ones who gripe all day about so-called "greed".
NASA knew there was a serious problem with the booster design. Larry Mulloy, the chief NASA official in charge of the SRBs, had a meeting with the Thiokol engineers who designed the booster joints THE NIGHT BEFORE THE LAUNCH, and they recommended that the mission not launch in cold weather.
Thinking that the shuttle program is going to end soon, perhaps we should all be lucky for what NASA had achieved so far considering all the problems they have faced over the years.
We should also be thankful, that their efforts did not end on this tragic day.
They learned from their mistakes from both Challenger and Columbia, and they had saved more lives though those lessons learned.
so freaken sad RIP to all of them, i understand following your dreams and having faith in nasa, but they let them down, there should have been no questions after the engineers told them that it was dangerous, the engineers expected for challenger to blow up on the launch pad. they should have just said we will wait and took the crap from the media. WTF were you thinking nasa.
@GeneralsAlert , also (forgot to add this to my other commint) it was saddy like a firework (or like a missil). It whent up, up, up, and up, and then, *BOOM!*.
i remember it like it was yesterday, home from college for the weekend...all of us in NH were so excited that one of our own had been chosen to teach from space....at 23 years old, i of course stayed out partying quite late...so i awoke late, as i was waking, i heard an announcer on the tv downstairs saying nobody could have survived that....instantly awake and down to the living room wrapped in a towel, spent the rest of the day crying, shedding tears as i type this....
very strong memory, RIP Christa and crew....all human endeavors have a cost measured in blood, this fact is scant comfort. at least most of the vids of this event available to view dont show Christas' parents...whose faces clearly changed from wonder to the most heartbreaking realization of what had just happened to their little girl....gtg cant type no more :((
Well, there are two things to bear in mind. First, Steve Nesbitt, the guy who made that report, was at Mission Control in Houston when he made that report. He's not supposed to get up and start screaming; it would distract the flight controllers, who had the important task after the accident of preserving their data so it could be used to analyze what went wrong.
i think it is stupid tht NASA chose to try sending them in2 space even though they new tht wen the rubber O-rings got cold they would srink causing the gas 2 be shot out the side. RIP all 7 of u
They did know, however, that there was a serious design defect in the SRB field joints: sometimes gas was getting out past the first O-Ring and impinging on the second one.
They also knew that this problem tended to be worse during cold-temperature launches, but it had also been seen in warm weather.
Boy I'll NEVER forget this day.... one of those rare moments when you remember exactly where you were, what you were doing and who you were with when a colossal tragedy happens.
actually its not good to give the vdo awesome or 5 star because it shows death of people.its tragedic..even though a tragic end.dieying normal death is good but dying in way like this,tht your family members can't even collect your body or see is a tragic end.can u think how was the cost of studies which the astronouts parents had to go..!!!!!!!!!tjink about it..you will then know the pain......
The crew were alive, and briefly conscious, after the explosion. Then the crew compartment hit the water at 200 miles per hour, so they died instantly then. But their bodies were recovered later.
@ayushology619 I would sooner die like this, serving humanity, my country and science than slipping in my bathroom or wasting away in cancer. They knew the risks, they knew what was at stake and they took them willingly. Their sacrifice will be remembered, and mankind will continue to learn and explore the universe we live in.
I don't think the astronauts knew that the engineers who designed the SRB field joint seals had a meeting with NASA brass THE NIGHT BEFORE THE LAUNCH, imploring them not to launch in cold weather.
The people in the best position to understand the danger thought the shuttle was going to explode on the pad, and they were not listened to.
What happened was perfectly avoidable. It involved a design defect that had been known for years.
Another catastrophe that could have been avoided...the poor crew ...but then out of mistakes we learn...of caurse for what a price...aa well all the work stuck in that project,yet alone the costs...really sad !!!
the book by allan macdonald is honest and horrifying but a must read if one wants to know about what happened and how NASA managers LIED about the warnings and risks, even with the Columbia, they were still LYING. sad but true
MySignify 1 month ago
@MySignify
I've read the book, and I don't remember the allegations of bad faith being that palpable.
NASA definitely knew there was a serious flaw in the booster design, but they'd gotten away with it 24 times by January 28, 1986.
Given all the political pressure they were under (the government eventually wanted the fleet doing 26 missions annually), it's not surprising that they were willing to take risks that, with the benefit of hindsight, were not justified.
UdallIn72 4 days ago
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we will never forget them, nor the last time we saw them, this morning, as they prepared for the journey and waved goodbye and 'slipped the surly bonds of earth' to 'touch the face of god
timothyp873 4 months ago
THE CHALLENGER EXPLOSTION WAS NOT CAUSED BY THE ROCKET BUSTERS IT WAS SHOT DOWN BY UFO'S. I SEEN THE ORIGINAL VIDEO SOME LIKE A ROCKET GO TOWARDS THE SHIP WHEN IT EXPLODED.THIS VIDEO IS NOT TRUE ITS JUST ANOTHER COVER UP BY OUR GOVERNMENT TO BLIND YOU FROM THE TRUTH. THERE SOMETHING OR SOMEONE VISITING OUR PLANET. THEY ARE THE GODS OF OLD. NOT ONLY DID I SEE THE ORIGINAL VIDEO OF THE CHALLENGER. BUT IT IS THE BIBLE ISAIAH 14:12-15
themessageman38 5 months ago
Great !!
ZZZFROMHELLZZZ 5 months ago
stupid nasa
pelicaravansary 8 months ago
I spoke about greed based on what we have all learned through various documentaries. The Challenger could have been spared had they listened to engineers, instead they new they would loose money among other things if they waited, so they gave them the go. It is sad although necessary for the loss of the beautiful people and ships. The astronauts new the risk and made the choice, just as we all do when we do the simple things like drive our car.
TheDmansMovies 8 months ago
"Risk is our business". There is always a risk when attempting to fly into outer space. All it takes is one incredibly small error. This is not a matter of "greed". Everyone who goes up knows there is a chance of disaster, and yet they all take that chance. They are far better people than the ones who gripe all day about so-called "greed".
DeedsResearcher 9 months ago
@DeedsResearcher
NASA knew there was a serious problem with the booster design. Larry Mulloy, the chief NASA official in charge of the SRBs, had a meeting with the Thiokol engineers who designed the booster joints THE NIGHT BEFORE THE LAUNCH, and they recommended that the mission not launch in cold weather.
This wasn't a random, unforeseen accident.
It's something EVERYBODY should have seen coming.
UdallIn72 4 days ago
The greed is what has killed all of our shuttle Astronauts. Both tragedies were avoidable. RIP to all of them.
damonpettit 10 months ago
Thinking that the shuttle program is going to end soon, perhaps we should all be lucky for what NASA had achieved so far considering all the problems they have faced over the years.
We should also be thankful, that their efforts did not end on this tragic day.
They learned from their mistakes from both Challenger and Columbia, and they had saved more lives though those lessons learned.
TBoneTony 1 year ago
it has been 25 years since that tragic day.
All I wish is for people to move on, but still remember them in a more positive way.
Because 25 years is a long time to hold such sadness.
TBoneTony 1 year ago
well at least the crew of the enterprise dedicated the movie star trek the voyege home to them!
ThisIsPehPeh 1 year ago
temperature problems... OH SH
Doonecat 1 year ago
so freaken sad RIP to all of them, i understand following your dreams and having faith in nasa, but they let them down, there should have been no questions after the engineers told them that it was dangerous, the engineers expected for challenger to blow up on the launch pad. they should have just said we will wait and took the crap from the media. WTF were you thinking nasa.
EpicGamingUniverse 1 year ago
@EpicGamingUniverse I agree
SSCC2015 1 year ago
very sad x
1969WALSH1969 1 year ago
good start, hart breacking ending
GeneralsAlert 1 year ago
@GeneralsAlert , also (forgot to add this to my other commint) it was saddy like a firework (or like a missil). It whent up, up, up, and up, and then, *BOOM!*.
R.I.P to all the crew that all died
:'(
GeneralsAlert 1 year ago
i remember it like it was yesterday, home from college for the weekend...all of us in NH were so excited that one of our own had been chosen to teach from space....at 23 years old, i of course stayed out partying quite late...so i awoke late, as i was waking, i heard an announcer on the tv downstairs saying nobody could have survived that....instantly awake and down to the living room wrapped in a towel, spent the rest of the day crying, shedding tears as i type this....
jeepnutnh 1 year ago
@jeepnutnh SO SORRY
SSCC2015 1 year ago
very strong memory, RIP Christa and crew....all human endeavors have a cost measured in blood, this fact is scant comfort. at least most of the vids of this event available to view dont show Christas' parents...whose faces clearly changed from wonder to the most heartbreaking realization of what had just happened to their little girl....gtg cant type no more :((
jeepnutnh 1 year ago
What the....... They barely reacted! They were like "Obviously a major malfunction"... Dumass that's more than major!..
timoffex 1 year ago 2
@timoffex Yeah
SSCC2015 1 year ago
@timoffex
Well, there are two things to bear in mind. First, Steve Nesbitt, the guy who made that report, was at Mission Control in Houston when he made that report. He's not supposed to get up and start screaming; it would distract the flight controllers, who had the important task after the accident of preserving their data so it could be used to analyze what went wrong.
UdallIn72 4 days ago
@UdallIn72 Ok. By the way, I just noticed I misspelled "dumbass".
timoffex 3 days ago
Hmm..... Is that what my teacher has been talking about? I think one of the women was her friend. But it could be another spaceship that blew up. ):
timoffex 1 year ago
@timoffex try the columbia?
knightmare4321 1 year ago
i think it is stupid tht NASA chose to try sending them in2 space even though they new tht wen the rubber O-rings got cold they would srink causing the gas 2 be shot out the side. RIP all 7 of u
kidluvzyamaha 2 years ago
@kidluvzyamaha
They didn't exactly know that, actually.
They did know, however, that there was a serious design defect in the SRB field joints: sometimes gas was getting out past the first O-Ring and impinging on the second one.
They also knew that this problem tended to be worse during cold-temperature launches, but it had also been seen in warm weather.
UdallIn72 4 days ago
Boy I'll NEVER forget this day.... one of those rare moments when you remember exactly where you were, what you were doing and who you were with when a colossal tragedy happens.
hitman2070 2 years ago
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great stuff!!!!
neutronjet 2 years ago
What the fuck...Life far a dream, died by the dream...POOR CREW, POOR FAMALIES :(
superhotze 2 years ago 4
actually its not good to give the vdo awesome or 5 star because it shows death of people.its tragedic..even though a tragic end.dieying normal death is good but dying in way like this,tht your family members can't even collect your body or see is a tragic end.can u think how was the cost of studies which the astronouts parents had to go..!!!!!!!!!tjink about it..you will then know the pain......
ayushology619 2 years ago 14
@ayushology619
The crew were alive, and briefly conscious, after the explosion. Then the crew compartment hit the water at 200 miles per hour, so they died instantly then. But their bodies were recovered later.
plusplusplusplusp 1 year ago
@ayushology619 pity on those guys...
ayushology619 1 year ago
@ayushology619 I would sooner die like this, serving humanity, my country and science than slipping in my bathroom or wasting away in cancer. They knew the risks, they knew what was at stake and they took them willingly. Their sacrifice will be remembered, and mankind will continue to learn and explore the universe we live in.
theAlaunt 1 year ago 2
@theAlaunt
I don't think the astronauts knew that the engineers who designed the SRB field joint seals had a meeting with NASA brass THE NIGHT BEFORE THE LAUNCH, imploring them not to launch in cold weather.
The people in the best position to understand the danger thought the shuttle was going to explode on the pad, and they were not listened to.
What happened was perfectly avoidable. It involved a design defect that had been known for years.
UdallIn72 4 days ago
@ayushology619 obviously as an event this is horrible and tragic, but as a youtube video of the event this is the best of them all.
JVhapu 9 months ago
@ayushology619 good point but I still watched it though
bulldog201086 6 months ago
Very good video! Thanks for posting!
tombstoner79 2 years ago
Another catastrophe that could have been avoided...the poor crew ...but then out of mistakes we learn...of caurse for what a price...aa well all the work stuck in that project,yet alone the costs...really sad !!!
Heidi : )
penelope1133 2 years ago
Um who the hell cares about the cost what matters is the crew and there poor families poor guys
jangofett12321 2 years ago 18
OF COURCE...i agree...thats my saying...right....POOR CREW !!!
penelope1133 2 years ago
@jangofett12321 That's true... But it's some of the risks that come with the job right?
ShawnBadger96 1 year ago
@penelope1133 why make a smilly face?
GeneralsAlert 1 year ago