@McTitties1000 So in other words, you're not liberal... you're a socialist. Get your terminology right, and remember that these words aren't used the same way in America as they are in the rest of the world.
Communism, as Marx and Engrls envisioned it, was the economic system of the apocalypse. After everything else had been tried and failed, communism would be the only choice left. Everything else would have killed itself.
The future will be decided on the streets of cities, in the schools, and in the Third World. The goal of the Bushes and the other capitalists is to keep the Third World in poverty, and the First world in a state of anxiety over their paychecks.
Comrades, the moment to fight is coming! Prepare yourselves!
I'm not a communist but a moderate sosialist. However I love this tune, togehter with the soviet national anthem. On the other side I also love the nazi march "Horst Wessel Lied" and the original german anthem "Deutchland Deutchland uber alles". Wagner is my favourit composer.
To Cauthon75: Moderate Socialism is the answer to the worlds problems. Just look at Germany (Helmut Smith period), France (Mitterand period), England (Tony Blair period) and Scandinavia. The capitalistic USA is bankrupt
@rkj1963 Well, interesting that you mention periods. Brief, fleeting periods. Doesn't the 'socialist' in you long for a longer-lasting answer to the problems that your 'moderate' side is happy to see addressed in moderate, temporary, phoney fashion?
Over and over we see the failure of socialism; probably the best example today is the comparison of North Korea and South Korea, just like East Germany and West Germany before their Wiedervereinigung (reunification). Some people like to think the repeated failures are the fault of individual leaders - "Stalinism is wrong and Lenin did less things wrong" - but socialism is basically an unnatural act, and force is necessary to maintain it. Government takes our money at the point of a gun.
@Cauthon75 You describe evil acts, surely, but not Socialism. Read up on it maybe. Dictators can call themselves all kinds of things, including socialist, democratic, and republican. Have the freedom to decide for yourself what they are, but none of them have been socialist.
@Derukugi2 Wow, do you really think most of us support Kim Yong Il, Stalin or Pol Pot? And the rest isn't more murderer than nearly any capitalistic ruler is, but you forget about counting the capitalistic kills. Your extreme one-handed...
@Derukugi2 It's not like you think. Eliminate your prejudices and stop making a fool of me by bad jokes.
Why do you think Stalin and Mao killed real communists? Why do you think Lenin took away the power from the soviets 2 years after the Revolution? It was all not the real Communism.
The old SPD and KPD were real Communists. They fought for direct democracy, freedom in every case, instead of the economic freedom(it leads only to problems and pseudo-freedom on other peoples costs).
Well, you can squirm as you want, and dream about what would be if your "real" communists had taken power.
But the fact is that every time and every place where your glorious ideology has been tried in real life, it has turned into brutal oppression and murder.
So, go sing your glorious Internationale on Kim Yong Il Square in North Korea.
@Derukugi2 The definition of their Communism wasn't even right. For normal the proletarian dictatorship should be short or in the best case not even necessary, but they wanted to have it for eternity and they had.
So it has not been tried in the right way. The person, who had the power from the proletarian dictatorship just didn't wanted to give his power away.
LOL! Exactly! It hasn´t been tried in the "right way". But it has been tried many many many times, and resulted in endless misery and millions of deaths.
So how many more more millions do you want to sacrifice before you find the "right way"?
Let me remind you of this: One prominent definition of insanity is to try repeat the same thing and expect a different result.
In Animal Farm, Orwell describes what ALWAYS happens, when people try to practise communism in real life.
This has happened EVERY time it has been tried.
Your "thinking" is that you can try it again and get a different result. But trying the same thing over and over and expecting a different result is one definition of insanity....
Go and sing your glorious internationale in Pyong Yang, comrade.
@Derukugi2 It happened because Lenin took the power of the Soviets 2 years after the Revolution and Stalin won the fight about Trotzki, who wasn't that avid for power in my opinion.
If Lenin hadn't took the power from the Soviets it would have never happened in that wrong way.
It should have stayed decentralistic, soviet-democratic and anti-authoritarian, like it looked like at the first time.
All power should have given to the Soviets to prevent the opportunity that came.
@Derukugi2 That means that the only way to get real Communism is on the Democratic way by gigantic Demonstrations/peaceful Revolutions to shout out the Soviet(council)-democratic Republic or by big reforms by a democratic far leftist party.
Why should I sing it in North Korea and stay there?
@Anno199 You don't work and gain money at all? You understood Capitalism and your a Bourgeois, congratulations. Be proud of earning money without doing anything for your money, except in the case that your just unemployed. If so your just stupid. If your Bourgeois you should shame on you.
We're all the same. Let's fight for a libertarian, democratic Socialism!
@Anno199 You're an idiot!, my parents lived through Nicolai Ceausescu's communist regime and said that they would prefer hard dictatorship instead of exploitation from the rich. And the worker will forever be oppressed by the capitalist exploiter without Marxism!!!
Workers of Deutschland and all of Europe oppose neo-liberalism and capitalist austerity! Stop corporate subsidies, military spending and war! Long live peace, solidarity, and progress!
Victory to the people, for direct worker's control over production. Genuine Socialism is impossible without democracy, and real democracy can not exist without genuine socialism.
@wnxsilence Wow sounds like you are a paleo conservative. Well you would be of you were an American. Look up paleo conservatism. No need for communism to end corporate welfare.
@wuIfshelmut Paleo-conservative? Definitely not, if you haven't noticed I am a Communist; and not afraid to admit that. Paleo-conservatism is just a form of bourgeoise rationality that seeks regression in to earlier stages of capitalist exploitation (that were more tolerable). I seek a radical transformation of the relationship between the working class and its production, one in which people can actually meaningfully participate in politics...especially in democratizing economic planning.
@wuIfshelmut Until there is a ruling class in existence within a nation state, there will always be corporate welfare. Obviously those who are in the position to control government in the so called western "democracies" are those with the most capital, the business and corporate interests. Only through solidarity among ordinary people can we end this opressive system, and provide for the mutual welfare of all the people.
@wnxsilence You do know Communism is actually ran and controlled by Occult Freemasons and Occult Illuminati right? You should know that Communism has a Globalist theme. That is what these groups want since they are mostly made up of rich business men. The Masons started out as the Knights templars during the Holy Wars in the Middle East. They then became the Masons after most of them were purged. A Global Goverment is good for business. You are helping usher in what you hate. Wake up please.
@wuIfshelmut How about you wake up from your nonsensical conspiracy theories, and read up on reality.
You obviously have no idea what communism is, and that's not surprising considering you live in the U.S. The real enemy of ordinary people is not some hidden "illuminati"....It is corporate power, and its in plane sight. Government is just the shadow cast by big business interests on society.
@wuIfshelmut I suggest you look up 'Class war' there is a interesting series by Noam Chomsky uploaded on YT on why people in your country are so distracted with irrelevant and non-existent "evils", while completely ignoring the real issues and threats to their freedom and standard of living. You are infact playing right in to the hands of the ruling class when you waste your time distracted with invented conspiraces, instead of standing up for your basic rights.
@wuIfshelmut ...Please wake up, and if you do try to awaken others... because many americans are very ignorant and misinformed. It is one effect of decades of corporate propaganda, many are convinced capitalism is the "end of history." As a result when they witness the huge problems in society they think it is corruption in the system, or some group conspiring against it. No, the only conspiracy is the one waged by the capitalist ruling class against ordinary people.
@wnxsilence It is class war, waged by those with enormous wealth, in order to maintain their power and privelege at the expense of others. I don't know about you, but in my opinion something is fundementally wrong when in our world of great material abundance, billions of human beings starve and die in the most miserable poverty. Today alone 27,000 children around the world will die of preventable causes. Capitalism is an unending genocide, and in my view a horrible tragedy for our species.
INTERNACIONALE bangunlah rakyat yg tertindas bangkitlah untuk melawan dalam ridho ALLAH yg kuasa kekuatan semakin besar lenyapkan diktator dan tirani rakyat sadar dan mendukung wajah dunia sudah berubah demi kemenangan kita perjuangan penghabisan bersatulah kawan peri kemanusiaan jayalah didunia
"National Socialism" is as Socialist as Walmart or McDonalds, the Nazis invaded and killed millions of people in "Communist" Russia..not to mention killing hundreds of thousands of Communist partisans, which resisted the fascist occupation all over Europe.
Let me revise this :
Fuck Fascism, Fuck Capitalism
Same shit!!!
Also, I am for Democracy as well...Democracy is Greek for "People's rule." So by definition it is the same as real Socialism.
no not really. socialism is a political philosophy, social and economy included. it does not necessarily advocate on state control either. and that differs from each branch
@pablononescobar Sorry pal, Socialism according to Marx is economic system in which workers control means of production, that's called autogestion or workers self-management.
You're describing democratic republic and not democracy in it's essence. In democracy there's no need for government.
Geistig Verirrten, Irrationaler, historisch Unbewanderter, ökonomsich Unbelehrbarer, konflikttheoretisch Unerfahrener, und viel zu häufig kleine teuflische Herzchen.
Kommunismus? Nein Danke!
Keine Diktatur, kein Totalitarismus, Für ein freies Denken und Meinungspluralismus.
The terms Socialist and Communist have been severely distorted by capitalist and fascist propaganda.
North Korea calls itself a "Democratic Republic" does that mean it is a democracy? Just because a country claims itself Communist, Socialist, or Democratic does not mean it is.
Without people's rule, there can never be Socialism...let alone Communism. Socialism or Communism without freedom, are not Socialism or Communism at all.
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let imperialist and capitalist blood flood the streets FIGHT WORKERS FIGHT WAR AGAINST INTERNATIONAL MAGAMENT OF THE GLOBAL ECONOMY WAR!!! LONG LIVE FREEDOM LONG LIVE INDEPENDENCE OF THE POOR AND HOPELESS WAR AGAINST ALL SYSTEMS OF CONTROL FOR THE CAPITAL LONG LIVE THE BLUE ROSE SPARTACUS IS NEVER DEAD LONG LIVE THE IDEA OF FRATERNITE, EGALITE, LIBERTE; DIE GEDANKEN SIND FREI; AND..... FRIEDE DEN HUETTEN, KRIEG DEN PALAESTEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@OEddiO Ich kann nicht sagen inwieweit du da recht hast da ich deine Quellen nicht kenne. Ich beziehe mich in meiner Meinung vor allem auf allgemeine Tatsachen.
Da wär beispielsweise Honecker mit seiner Funktionärsriege, welche alle nur erdenklichen Freiheiten besaßen die dem normalen Arbeiter vorenthalten waren. Oder Stalin, der seine Parteigenossen mit einem unbeschwerten und dabei total überwachten Lebensstil verführt hat. Oder die Funktionäre in China von denen schließlich jeder weiß, dass Sie alle Fäden in Wirtschaft und Politik in der Hand haben.
Ich denke auch nicht, dass der Kommunismus in seiner theoretischen Form schlecht ist.
Ich denke er führt unweigerlich zu einer Diktatur, weil der Wille des Volkes nicht von einem kleinen Kreis von Personen ausgeführt werden kann. Daher auch zwangsläufige Pressezensur und Überwachung. All das zu sehen an Staaten wie China, der DDR, Nordkorea und eben auch Russland. Die kürzlich aufgekommene Debatte, ob das Leben in der DDR besser gewesen sei entspringt doch genau demselben Grund. Das Leben war nicht besser!! Es war geordnet aber instabil und unfrei.
Ob die DDR zuletzt nun pleite gewesen ist oder nicht. Aber eine Volkswirtschaft kann doch dauerhaft nicht ohne Export/Import(Kapitalismus) existieren. Ich meine keiner von uns möchte täglich Kaffee-Mix trinken oder was auch immer für einen Scheiß die den Leuten angedreht haben.
Ich bin der Ansicht jeder ist Korrupt, auch die deutschen Politiker. Wenn die könnten würden sie auch mehr nehmen als jetzt. Bestes Beispiel Schröder. Zu ihrem Leidwesen lässt unsere Staatsform so etwas nicht zu.
Ganz anders im Kommunismus. Wenn da ein Parteibonze irgendetwas braucht nimmt sich der das doch einfach, wer hält ihn schließlich davon ab. Das was in Russland zurzeit läuft mag lupenreiner Kapitalismus sein, aber das ganze mit Demokratie zu betiteln, so ignorant möchte ich dann doch nicht sein.
Marx war sicher ein guter Kommunist. Der hat auch tolle Bücher geschrieben, sicher. Lenin war auch ein guter Kommunist, hat auch gute Ideen gehabt.
Aber im Gegensatz zu Marx ist er an die Macht gekommen und was ist passiert. Er hat den Grundstein für das totalitäre Regime unter Stalin gelegt. Von dem fang ich gar nicht erst an. Leute können reden und reden, der wahre Charakter zeigt sich nicht an dem was Sie sagen, sondern was sie tun. Sieht man immer wieder bei Politikern. Das Kapital beispielsweise ist lediglich etwas von den Dingen was gesagt wird und wird es immer bleiben.
Ich war in Russland und habe mit Russen geredet. Da war der Vater Fabrikarbeiter und die Orden von der Sovietzeit wurden stolz präsentiert. Ich glaube diese Menschen haben ein komplett falsches Weltbild, teilweise indoktriniert, teilweise durch ihre eigene Dummheit zusammengeschustert. Ich arbeite doch nicht für den Staat, der Staat arbeitet für mich. Man ist schließlich kein Zahnrad was zu funktionieren hat, man kann doch keine gute Politik machen, wenn man alle Minderheiten unterdrückt.
Das war in Nazi Deutschland ja auch nicht anders als in Russland.
Wir analysieren hier lediglich Demokratie gegen Kommunismus. Da stellt sich für mich nicht nur ein winziger Augenblick des Zweifels und ich frage mich ernsthaft wie man auf die Idee kommen kann Demokratie könnte nicht die momentan beste Regierungsform sein. Die Notwendigkeit des Kapitalismus ist leider eher fragwürdig.
let imperialist and capitalist blood flood the streets FIGHT WORKERS FIGHT WAR AGAINST INTERNATIONAL MAGAMENT OF THE GLOBAL ECONOMY WAR!!! LONG LIVE FREEDOM LONG LIVE INDEPENDENCE OF THE POOR AND HOPELESS WAR AGAINST ALL SYSTEMS OF CONTROL FOR THE CAPITAL LONG LIVE THE BLUE ROSE SPARTACUS IS NEVER DEAD LONG LIVE THE IDEA OF FRATERNITE, EGALITE, LIBERTE; DIE GEDANKEN SIND FREI; AND..... FRIEDE DEN HUETTEN, KRIEG DEN PALAESTEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
die heutige Form des Kapitalismus hat es vermocht, dass die Schweine ihre Metzger beklatschen - weiter so, RTL und Bild werden es schon schaffen, dass wir noch die deutsche fußball-Nationalmannschaft und die Gebärmutter von Paris Hilten bejohlen, während den 25 Millionen Arbeitslosen 2012 der tägliche Gutschein für 80 Gramm Kartoffelchips zugetelt wird
the most striking problem of socialism is that when everybody is equal, gets treaten equal and paid equal why would you even ever try to work hard, to success and to earn more money so you can spend more
a such society my dear comrade friends is damned to total shutdown
But in the history there has never been a "real" communistic state! Maybe only SOCIALIST states. But NEVER communist states ;)
But my opinion is that for example even the sovjetunion wasnt a socialist state, because I think Socialism/ Communism and dictatorship HAVE TO exclusive eachother...
Er hat nur den Namen missbraucht. Lenin wollte ja nicht, dass er die Partei übernimmt, er bat die Genossen sogar ihn aus seiner Stellung zu verweissen. Aber dies ist nur schriftlich vorhanden, da er zu jener Zeit krank war. Sein Nachfolger hätte eigentlich Trotzky sein müssen, aber sogar dies hatte Stallin verhindert., in dem er Trotzky ein Brief zu kommen lies und darin einen falschen Beerdigungsdatum, von Lenin, erwähnte. @Pucky 17: Stallin = Kein Kommunist = Hitler nah
Warum verstecken sich eigentlich alle hinter solchen Namen wie Sozialismus, Kommunismus, Liberalismus etc.
Es gibt kein perfektes System, aber es gibt gute Teile in fast allen. Man sollte diese Teile nehmen und im System einbauen. Dafür ist die Demokratie geeignet.
Apperently your an idiot not to even know what people do. Communists never once hurt the Jewish people. Vladimir Lenin,Leon Trotsky, Friedreich Engles, and Karl Marx were Jewish ethnicly not in a Religious way.
Stalin did, after WW2 he started on a purge of Jews in the party. I cite Simon Sebag Montefiore as my example for this, and his book Court of the red Tsar.
I accept he wasn't a true Communist, or even a Socialist but however to the ignorant it would seem that socialisms record isn't beyong reproach.
To him (and to many other idiots) jews are "evil parasites" and everything that speaks against that, is part of the camouflage of the "zionistic conspiracy".
If somebody has build a prison for his own mind in the size of a shoe box you can´t reach him with words any longer.
"a jew is a religious person who worships jehova!"
No, A Jew is someone who worships Yahweh.
Jehova is the wrong pronunciation for יַהְוֶה , The Masoretes added vowel points (niqqud) and cantillation marks to the manuscripts to indicate vowel usage and for use in the ritual chanting of readings from the Bible in synagogue services. To יהוה they added the vowels for "Adonai"
("My Lord"), the word to use when the text was read. Because the name was no longer pronounced and its own vowels were not written, its own pronunciation was forgotten. When Christians, unaware of the Jewish tradition, started to read the Hebrew Bible, they read יְהֹוָה as written with YHWH's consonants with Adonai's vowels, and thus said or transcribed Iehovah.
@valkoren let me guess: you don't like any other religion because you think yours is the only one? one suggestion from me: look in the bible read what jesus wants us to do: he wants us to love each other. you know it's quite hard to write this as a non-religious person but probably other arguments aren't heard at all.
and after all: jesus was a jew too. if he even existed. the bible is not a report from the past! and i think you know too what christians did in the past! think before you hate!
what about the Nazi invasion of hungry and your killing of over 6 million Jewish people and 40 million Soviets. lol you have killed more then Communists have. only fools think that Nazism is great much like your self. The 1956 Revolt would have brought a liberal, more or less, Pro-Western Regime.
do you know why nazis fought the communists at all? cuz the guys behind the nazi party were capitalists. they wanted war, and got the stupid people to follow
Belaya Armiya means White Army, the Army which killed millions of people in the russian Revolution, the Army under the monarchist/imperialist/capitalist banner. The revolution started, because these pricks stealed everything from the russian folk and if the communists are so evil, why russia had 3 Revolutions in that time? Why over 5 million people were on Lenins burial and cried? And why there are so many communists now?
Communism = The illusion that you can obtain freedom by handing your rights and property over to a big government and killing all those who dont agree with you.
Oh YAY!! Sign me up for that ! i dont get taxed enough already !
Big government is modern liberalism. Taken to its extreme as an econonic system it is state capitalism. Communism is nothing to do with either. Communism is common ownership + economic democracy. Still, I can see why you'd be confused. In the US, the people who called themselves liberals are illiberal and the conservatives are classical liberals who don't conserve. And as for the Libertarians, is that meant to be some sort of joke? Market fundementalism does not equal libertarianism!
Communism in itself denies the big government, it stands for self-governing of citizens (communes, soviets).
Why kill? Just gulag them. If some son of a bith denies holocaust (for example) - imprison him! Yes, this is the essense of communism - no one is allowed to say what is politically incorrect.
РОТ ФРОНТ!
dman9dman 3 months ago
Im a liberal living in USA, and this music brings tears to my eyes, i hope one day America will become socialist... in obama we hope!!
McTitties1000 6 months ago
@McTitties1000 So in other words, you're not liberal... you're a socialist. Get your terminology right, and remember that these words aren't used the same way in America as they are in the rest of the world.
HonoraryCheesehead 1 month ago
Communism, as Marx and Engrls envisioned it, was the economic system of the apocalypse. After everything else had been tried and failed, communism would be the only choice left. Everything else would have killed itself.
Morrigan070671 7 months ago
The future will be decided on the streets of cities, in the schools, and in the Third World. The goal of the Bushes and the other capitalists is to keep the Third World in poverty, and the First world in a state of anxiety over their paychecks.
Comrades, the moment to fight is coming! Prepare yourselves!
paolosilv 8 months ago
Educate, organize, sing, fight!
paolosilv 8 months ago
I'm not a communist but a moderate sosialist. However I love this tune, togehter with the soviet national anthem. On the other side I also love the nazi march "Horst Wessel Lied" and the original german anthem "Deutchland Deutchland uber alles". Wagner is my favourit composer.
To Cauthon75: Moderate Socialism is the answer to the worlds problems. Just look at Germany (Helmut Smith period), France (Mitterand period), England (Tony Blair period) and Scandinavia. The capitalistic USA is bankrupt
rkj1963 9 months ago
@rkj1963 Well, interesting that you mention periods. Brief, fleeting periods. Doesn't the 'socialist' in you long for a longer-lasting answer to the problems that your 'moderate' side is happy to see addressed in moderate, temporary, phoney fashion?
sturatcliffe 8 months ago
@rkj1963
Just for the record: The German National Anthem isn't called "Deutschland über Alles;" it's called "Das Deutschlandlied."
On that note, I agree with pretty much everything you said. :P
Qrawzseg 7 months ago
Over and over we see the failure of socialism; probably the best example today is the comparison of North Korea and South Korea, just like East Germany and West Germany before their Wiedervereinigung (reunification). Some people like to think the repeated failures are the fault of individual leaders - "Stalinism is wrong and Lenin did less things wrong" - but socialism is basically an unnatural act, and force is necessary to maintain it. Government takes our money at the point of a gun.
Cauthon75 9 months ago
@Cauthon75 You describe evil acts, surely, but not Socialism. Read up on it maybe. Dictators can call themselves all kinds of things, including socialist, democratic, and republican. Have the freedom to decide for yourself what they are, but none of them have been socialist.
sturatcliffe 8 months ago
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Vim281 1 year ago
jo also wäre geil wen sich jemand findet für mia
annamaestraub23 1 year ago 6
Dedicated to Kim Yong Il, Pol Pot, Fidel Castro, Hugo Chavez, and all other mass murderers of communism.
Derukugi2 1 year ago
@Derukugi2 Wow, do you really think most of us support Kim Yong Il, Stalin or Pol Pot? And the rest isn't more murderer than nearly any capitalistic ruler is, but you forget about counting the capitalistic kills. Your extreme one-handed...
BloodyNerd92 1 year ago
@BloodyNerd92
Sorry, I forgot to mention Joseph Stalin and Mao, each with another 30 million deaths on their hands.
Also dedicated to them!
The glorious internationale...
Derukugi2 1 year ago
@Derukugi2 The real Communists hate all of them. They were authoritarian and centralistic, we're the opposite.
BloodyNerd92 1 year ago
@BloodyNerd92
Oh, right. The "real communists". Except that every time the "real communism" has been tried, it has turned into this genocidal "unreal" communism.
Enjoy singing your Internationale in a Workers` Paradise of your choice...
Derukugi2 1 year ago
@Derukugi2 It's not like you think. Eliminate your prejudices and stop making a fool of me by bad jokes.
Why do you think Stalin and Mao killed real communists? Why do you think Lenin took away the power from the soviets 2 years after the Revolution? It was all not the real Communism.
The old SPD and KPD were real Communists. They fought for direct democracy, freedom in every case, instead of the economic freedom(it leads only to problems and pseudo-freedom on other peoples costs).
BloodyNerd92 1 year ago
@BloodyNerd92
Well, you can squirm as you want, and dream about what would be if your "real" communists had taken power.
But the fact is that every time and every place where your glorious ideology has been tried in real life, it has turned into brutal oppression and murder.
So, go sing your glorious Internationale on Kim Yong Il Square in North Korea.
And stay there, preferably...
Derukugi2 1 year ago
@Derukugi2 The definition of their Communism wasn't even right. For normal the proletarian dictatorship should be short or in the best case not even necessary, but they wanted to have it for eternity and they had.
So it has not been tried in the right way. The person, who had the power from the proletarian dictatorship just didn't wanted to give his power away.
BloodyNerd92 1 year ago
@BloodyNerd92
LOL! Exactly! It hasn´t been tried in the "right way". But it has been tried many many many times, and resulted in endless misery and millions of deaths.
So how many more more millions do you want to sacrifice before you find the "right way"?
Let me remind you of this: One prominent definition of insanity is to try repeat the same thing and expect a different result.
Derukugi2 1 year ago
@Derukugi2 I know the right way and I told you about it.
It's not the same thing, it's a completely different thing.
Anti-Authoritarian stands in opposition to Authoritarian.
Democracy stands in opposition to a Dictatorship.
Decentralistic stands in opposition to Centralistic.
etc...
BloodyNerd92 1 year ago
@BloodyNerd92
LOL! Sure you "know" the right way. So did all the others who have tried this, countless times. And every time it turned to disaster.
Read George Orwells "Animal Farm" for a good description of the typical way a workers paradise devlops.
So again: Go and sing your glorious Internationale in North Korea.
Derukugi2 1 year ago
@Derukugi2 No, all of them were authoritarian, anti-democratic (dictators) and controlled everything centralistic.
I know the book and I read it.
It doesn't change the situation and my thinking.
BloodyNerd92 1 year ago
@BloodyNerd92
In Animal Farm, Orwell describes what ALWAYS happens, when people try to practise communism in real life.
This has happened EVERY time it has been tried.
Your "thinking" is that you can try it again and get a different result. But trying the same thing over and over and expecting a different result is one definition of insanity....
Go and sing your glorious internationale in Pyong Yang, comrade.
Derukugi2 1 year ago
@Derukugi2 It happened because Lenin took the power of the Soviets 2 years after the Revolution and Stalin won the fight about Trotzki, who wasn't that avid for power in my opinion.
If Lenin hadn't took the power from the Soviets it would have never happened in that wrong way.
It should have stayed decentralistic, soviet-democratic and anti-authoritarian, like it looked like at the first time.
All power should have given to the Soviets to prevent the opportunity that came.
BloodyNerd92 1 year ago
@BloodyNerd92
If if if if.... so what about the countless other attempts at workers paradises that ended up in disaster?
As I pointed out: One definition of insanity is to try the same thing over and over again, expecting a different result.
Sing your glorious internationale in Cambodia, comrade.
Derukugi2 1 year ago
@Derukugi2 Nearly all of them were manipulated by the anti-socialistic Soviet-union with violence and threatening them with violence.
It's not the same thing.
It's nearly the opposite, like I said often enough to you.
Have you ever read the critic of Rosa Luxemburg about the Soviet-Union etc.?
I'm a Luxemburgist, left Communist or also known as libertarian Communist, like nearly my whole comrades are.
Stalinism is wrong and Lenin did less things wrong, but he did them wrong.
BloodyNerd92 1 year ago
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@BloodyNerd92
You are going in circles. It does not matter what a beautiful critic Rosa Luxemburg wrote "about the Soviet-Union etc.".
What matters is that those ides have tried over and over again, and resulted in disaster ever time.
As I pointed out: One definition of insanity is to try the same thing over and over again, expecting a different result.
Sing your glorious internationale in Romania, comrade.
Derukugi2 1 year ago
@Derukugi2 I agree, I know - I was there, I did it, I was one of them.
freeman8128 1 year ago
@freeman8128
And I have family members in one of the old workers paradises. So I have experienced it first-hand.
So I can only shake my head when I see young gullible fools today sing "Beasts of England" again...
Derukugi2 1 year ago
@Derukugi2 Me too, I was there, I agree with you - what more can I say?
freeman8128 1 year ago
@Derukugi2 That means that the only way to get real Communism is on the Democratic way by gigantic Demonstrations/peaceful Revolutions to shout out the Soviet(council)-democratic Republic or by big reforms by a democratic far leftist party.
Why should I sing it in North Korea and stay there?
North Korea isn't Communist and it sucks!
BloodyNerd92 1 year ago
no nazis!! no capitalists1!! people power!!!
paul476hong 1 year ago 4
@paul476hong I accidentally pressed the thumb down button on your comment, sorry! I actually like the comment.
Vim281 1 year ago
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Workers of the world UNITE!
StrongGayBlackMan 1 year ago 6
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Im not a worker and proud of it! Fuck off Marx!
Anno199 1 year ago
@Anno199 you are stupid!!!!!!!!
stiggy155 1 year ago
@Anno199
If not a worker What then?
NordicStormtrooper 1 year ago
@Anno199 You don't work and gain money at all? You understood Capitalism and your a Bourgeois, congratulations. Be proud of earning money without doing anything for your money, except in the case that your just unemployed. If so your just stupid. If your Bourgeois you should shame on you.
We're all the same. Let's fight for a libertarian, democratic Socialism!
Red Greetings from Germany!
BloodyNerd92 1 year ago
@Anno199 You're an idiot!, my parents lived through Nicolai Ceausescu's communist regime and said that they would prefer hard dictatorship instead of exploitation from the rich. And the worker will forever be oppressed by the capitalist exploiter without Marxism!!!
Vim281 1 year ago
no more exploitation! the fruits of your labour belong to you, but share with the young, weak and old!
KybernetikKollektiv 1 year ago 4
Bastardi!!!!
orse1980 1 year ago
Workers of Deutschland and all of Europe oppose neo-liberalism and capitalist austerity! Stop corporate subsidies, military spending and war! Long live peace, solidarity, and progress!
Victory to the people, for direct worker's control over production. Genuine Socialism is impossible without democracy, and real democracy can not exist without genuine socialism.
wnxsilence 1 year ago 3
@wnxsilence Wow sounds like you are a paleo conservative. Well you would be of you were an American. Look up paleo conservatism. No need for communism to end corporate welfare.
wuIfshelmut 1 year ago
@wuIfshelmut Paleo-conservative? Definitely not, if you haven't noticed I am a Communist; and not afraid to admit that. Paleo-conservatism is just a form of bourgeoise rationality that seeks regression in to earlier stages of capitalist exploitation (that were more tolerable). I seek a radical transformation of the relationship between the working class and its production, one in which people can actually meaningfully participate in politics...especially in democratizing economic planning.
wnxsilence 1 year ago
@wuIfshelmut Until there is a ruling class in existence within a nation state, there will always be corporate welfare. Obviously those who are in the position to control government in the so called western "democracies" are those with the most capital, the business and corporate interests. Only through solidarity among ordinary people can we end this opressive system, and provide for the mutual welfare of all the people.
wnxsilence 1 year ago
@wnxsilence You do know Communism is actually ran and controlled by Occult Freemasons and Occult Illuminati right? You should know that Communism has a Globalist theme. That is what these groups want since they are mostly made up of rich business men. The Masons started out as the Knights templars during the Holy Wars in the Middle East. They then became the Masons after most of them were purged. A Global Goverment is good for business. You are helping usher in what you hate. Wake up please.
wuIfshelmut 1 year ago
@wuIfshelmut How about you wake up from your nonsensical conspiracy theories, and read up on reality.
You obviously have no idea what communism is, and that's not surprising considering you live in the U.S. The real enemy of ordinary people is not some hidden "illuminati"....It is corporate power, and its in plane sight. Government is just the shadow cast by big business interests on society.
wnxsilence 1 year ago
@wuIfshelmut I suggest you look up 'Class war' there is a interesting series by Noam Chomsky uploaded on YT on why people in your country are so distracted with irrelevant and non-existent "evils", while completely ignoring the real issues and threats to their freedom and standard of living. You are infact playing right in to the hands of the ruling class when you waste your time distracted with invented conspiraces, instead of standing up for your basic rights.
wnxsilence 1 year ago
@wuIfshelmut ...Please wake up, and if you do try to awaken others... because many americans are very ignorant and misinformed. It is one effect of decades of corporate propaganda, many are convinced capitalism is the "end of history." As a result when they witness the huge problems in society they think it is corruption in the system, or some group conspiring against it. No, the only conspiracy is the one waged by the capitalist ruling class against ordinary people.
wnxsilence 1 year ago
@wnxsilence It is class war, waged by those with enormous wealth, in order to maintain their power and privelege at the expense of others. I don't know about you, but in my opinion something is fundementally wrong when in our world of great material abundance, billions of human beings starve and die in the most miserable poverty. Today alone 27,000 children around the world will die of preventable causes. Capitalism is an unending genocide, and in my view a horrible tragedy for our species.
wnxsilence 1 year ago 17
@wuIfshelmut To be "Woken up" is to be class concious.
Eddyking5 1 year ago 3
schaut mal auf 8.wonderland org - kleine anregungen für die nächste internationale bewegung !
meinbunuel 1 year ago
Kommunismus, Sozialismus und Nationaler Sozialismus sind auf dem Papier sicher tolle Ideen, nur haberts scheinbar immer an der Umsetzung.
TaleOfValors 1 year ago
@TaleOfValors ja das problem sind groteskerweise die menschen selbst - sie sind einfach zu machtsüchtig
ich glaube kommunismus könnte funktionieren nur halt im kleinen kreis (eine kleinstadt mehr nicht)
das anarchismus im kleinen kreis funktionert wurde im spanischen bürgerkrieg schon bewiesen...
beanmaster15 1 year ago
@beanmaster15
Naja, vom funktionieren kann man während eines Bürgerkriegs kaum reden. Da gabs ja dann auch Tote usw.
Mudjin 1 year ago
@Mudjin xD ja das stimmt wohl aber ich glaube das es auch nach ende des krieges weitrer funktioniert hätte
beanmaster15 1 year ago
Dieses Lied ist die hymne der Unterdrueckung und Sklaverei. Es ist die Hymne Stalins
Das Dingens gehoert verboten wie alle faschistischen Lieder der Erde.
Es verherrlicht die Weltdiktatur unter dem Sozialismuss.
Dort werden Menschenrechte relativiert und erklaert.
Das lied steht fuer eutanasie, erbiologische Lehren und Rassismuss.
Das Lied steht fuer alle Menschen in armut und Not zu halten und politische Feudalherrschaften moeglich zu machen.
Kalimero22222 1 year ago
@Kalimero22222
Wo hörst du denn da Eutanasie oder Feudalherrschaft raus? Dumm oder so?
Mudjin 1 year ago
Workers of Deutschland oppose neo-liberalism and capitalist austerity! Stop military spending and war! Long live peace, solidarity, and progress!
Workers of the world unite!
wnxsilence 1 year ago 4
@br14n88
Cuba
BobaFett47 1 year ago
I am against Communism, Zionism, Anti-Fa, Christianity & Catechism!
BryanTeeVee 1 year ago
ONE DAY COMMUNISM WILL RETURN BUT IN A DIFFERENT WAY
BROTHERS SISTERS MOVE FORWARD NOT BACKWARD MAKE LOVE NOT WAR
olympian539 1 year ago
@br14n88
And Stalin killed hundredthousands of jews... don't be a racist or at least dumb.
Mudjin 1 year ago
@Mudjin stalin dont killed jews u morlon he ofer the jews too hitler
linkinetherlands11 6 months ago
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stupid cummunism
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cakgopar 1 year ago
happy May 1st comrades! 90,000 people marched through the streets of Lisbon to comemorate the workers day.
kjkj74 1 year ago
Rot Front!Держитесь товарищи!!!
Poleno2007 1 year ago
In memory of Karl Marx, Fredrick Engels, Rosa Luxenbourg, and all our great comrades in Deutchsland and around the world!
Long live the great working class of Europe! Long live the workers and peasants of earth!
Workers of the world unite! For freedom, democracy, peace, and progress!
Death to all forms of opression, exploitation, and tyranny.
Solidarity comrades, don't ridicule...organize!
wnxsilence 1 year ago 70
@wnxsilence wake up communism doesnt work
Viktorsiable 1 year ago
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thebutcherboy100 1 year ago
Und du schreibst weshalb auf Englisch?
MoaiMaea 1 year ago
@MoaiMaea
damits jeder versteht^^
thebutcherboy100 1 year ago
being democrat is alot like being a socialist im afraid :/
lachmeneger 1 year ago
What are you saying thebutcherboy100??
"National Socialism" is as Socialist as Walmart or McDonalds, the Nazis invaded and killed millions of people in "Communist" Russia..not to mention killing hundreds of thousands of Communist partisans, which resisted the fascist occupation all over Europe.
Let me revise this :
Fuck Fascism, Fuck Capitalism
Same shit!!!
Also, I am for Democracy as well...Democracy is Greek for "People's rule." So by definition it is the same as real Socialism.
PersianMarxist 1 year ago 4
@PersianMarxist "socialism" is an economic philosphy about state control of the economy
"Democracy" is a political philosophy having to do with direct invovlement of the people in government.
They don't necessarily have to do with each other.
pablononescobar 1 year ago
@pablononescobar
no not really. socialism is a political philosophy, social and economy included. it does not necessarily advocate on state control either. and that differs from each branch
felnaris 1 year ago
@pablononescobar Sorry pal, Socialism according to Marx is economic system in which workers control means of production, that's called autogestion or workers self-management.
You're describing democratic republic and not democracy in it's essence. In democracy there's no need for government.
SloveintzWend 1 year ago
Fascism? Nein Danke!
wnxsilence 1 year ago
Kommunistenplage
eine Vereinigung von
Geistig Verirrten, Irrationaler, historisch Unbewanderter, ökonomsich Unbelehrbarer, konflikttheoretisch Unerfahrener, und viel zu häufig kleine teuflische Herzchen.
Kommunismus? Nein Danke!
Keine Diktatur, kein Totalitarismus, Für ein freies Denken und Meinungspluralismus.
nosonnemondundsterne 1 year ago
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wnxsilence 1 year ago
The terms Socialist and Communist have been severely distorted by capitalist and fascist propaganda.
North Korea calls itself a "Democratic Republic" does that mean it is a democracy? Just because a country claims itself Communist, Socialist, or Democratic does not mean it is.
Without people's rule, there can never be Socialism...let alone Communism. Socialism or Communism without freedom, are not Socialism or Communism at all.
Such a system has not even been tried.
wnxsilence 1 year ago 5
Long live Karl Marx, Fredrik Engels, Rosa Luxenbourg, and all our great Comrades in Deutchland and around the world.
Long live the great workers of Europe, and the workers and peasants of Earth!!
Workers of the World unite!!! For freedom, genuine democracy, and worker's control. If Socialism is not free, it will be not.
Death to opression, exploitation, and tyranny!
Solidarity!!
wnxsilence 1 year ago 4
scheisskommunismus! zum glück wurde diee sed-fraktion aus dem bundestag geworfen. könnte ruhig öfter passieren.
RockerTschens 1 year ago
@RockerTschens
Damit sie öfter rausfliegt müsste sie aber auch öfter reinkommen, oder?
kritzelbrabp 1 year ago
@RockerTschens
Du irrst dich, sie heissen nur DIE LINKE
pipapo7 1 year ago
omg was ausser dem nationalsozialismus und der ismalischen schariah + weltanschauung ist den noch menschenverachtender als der kommunismus?
montezuma75 1 year ago 4
nichts.
ph1f1 1 year ago 5
@montezuma75 Naja.
VintageJunior 1 year ago
@montezuma75 the pure, unregulated, Hobbesian free-market Capitalism as found in the USA.
viridiscomis 1 year ago
@montezuma75 Kapitalismus!
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cipriuc 1 year ago
@cipriuc
proletrarity of all countries, unite!
tomm0rello 1 year ago
Workers of the world unite!
Solidarity!
Long live real freedom, democracy(people's rule), and workers control!
No! to any opression, exploitation, plunder, tyranny, or dictatorship!!!!!
wnxsilence 2 years ago
Der Mensch verbrennt zuviel Kohlstoff.
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1943TheSS 2 years ago
Mit Leo Trotzky hätten wir die Welt beherrscht. Die Idee vom Sozialismus in einem Land war der Totengräber des Kommunismus
koehlicool 2 years ago
Tod zum Kapitalismus und Imperialismus!
Sieg zum Kommunismus!
Sieg zum Proletariat!
cjl1441997 2 years ago
Ich bin damit einverstanden, obwohl ich kein Arbeiter bin!
egotick 1 year ago
@OEddiO Ich kann nicht sagen inwieweit du da recht hast da ich deine Quellen nicht kenne. Ich beziehe mich in meiner Meinung vor allem auf allgemeine Tatsachen.
al650lu7e 2 years ago
Da wär beispielsweise Honecker mit seiner Funktionärsriege, welche alle nur erdenklichen Freiheiten besaßen die dem normalen Arbeiter vorenthalten waren. Oder Stalin, der seine Parteigenossen mit einem unbeschwerten und dabei total überwachten Lebensstil verführt hat. Oder die Funktionäre in China von denen schließlich jeder weiß, dass Sie alle Fäden in Wirtschaft und Politik in der Hand haben.
Ich denke auch nicht, dass der Kommunismus in seiner theoretischen Form schlecht ist.
al650lu7e 2 years ago
Ich denke er führt unweigerlich zu einer Diktatur, weil der Wille des Volkes nicht von einem kleinen Kreis von Personen ausgeführt werden kann. Daher auch zwangsläufige Pressezensur und Überwachung. All das zu sehen an Staaten wie China, der DDR, Nordkorea und eben auch Russland. Die kürzlich aufgekommene Debatte, ob das Leben in der DDR besser gewesen sei entspringt doch genau demselben Grund. Das Leben war nicht besser!! Es war geordnet aber instabil und unfrei.
al650lu7e 2 years ago
Ob die DDR zuletzt nun pleite gewesen ist oder nicht. Aber eine Volkswirtschaft kann doch dauerhaft nicht ohne Export/Import(Kapitalismus) existieren. Ich meine keiner von uns möchte täglich Kaffee-Mix trinken oder was auch immer für einen Scheiß die den Leuten angedreht haben.
Ich bin der Ansicht jeder ist Korrupt, auch die deutschen Politiker. Wenn die könnten würden sie auch mehr nehmen als jetzt. Bestes Beispiel Schröder. Zu ihrem Leidwesen lässt unsere Staatsform so etwas nicht zu.
al650lu7e 2 years ago
Ganz anders im Kommunismus. Wenn da ein Parteibonze irgendetwas braucht nimmt sich der das doch einfach, wer hält ihn schließlich davon ab. Das was in Russland zurzeit läuft mag lupenreiner Kapitalismus sein, aber das ganze mit Demokratie zu betiteln, so ignorant möchte ich dann doch nicht sein.
Marx war sicher ein guter Kommunist. Der hat auch tolle Bücher geschrieben, sicher. Lenin war auch ein guter Kommunist, hat auch gute Ideen gehabt.
al650lu7e 2 years ago
Aber im Gegensatz zu Marx ist er an die Macht gekommen und was ist passiert. Er hat den Grundstein für das totalitäre Regime unter Stalin gelegt. Von dem fang ich gar nicht erst an. Leute können reden und reden, der wahre Charakter zeigt sich nicht an dem was Sie sagen, sondern was sie tun. Sieht man immer wieder bei Politikern. Das Kapital beispielsweise ist lediglich etwas von den Dingen was gesagt wird und wird es immer bleiben.
Ich kann mir meine Meinung bilden, danke.
al650lu7e 2 years ago
Ich war in Russland und habe mit Russen geredet. Da war der Vater Fabrikarbeiter und die Orden von der Sovietzeit wurden stolz präsentiert. Ich glaube diese Menschen haben ein komplett falsches Weltbild, teilweise indoktriniert, teilweise durch ihre eigene Dummheit zusammengeschustert. Ich arbeite doch nicht für den Staat, der Staat arbeitet für mich. Man ist schließlich kein Zahnrad was zu funktionieren hat, man kann doch keine gute Politik machen, wenn man alle Minderheiten unterdrückt.
al650lu7e 2 years ago
Das war in Nazi Deutschland ja auch nicht anders als in Russland.
Wir analysieren hier lediglich Demokratie gegen Kommunismus. Da stellt sich für mich nicht nur ein winziger Augenblick des Zweifels und ich frage mich ernsthaft wie man auf die Idee kommen kann Demokratie könnte nicht die momentan beste Regierungsform sein. Die Notwendigkeit des Kapitalismus ist leider eher fragwürdig.
al650lu7e 2 years ago
cipriuc 2 years ago
die heutige Form des Kapitalismus hat es vermocht, dass die Schweine ihre Metzger beklatschen - weiter so, RTL und Bild werden es schon schaffen, dass wir noch die deutsche fußball-Nationalmannschaft und die Gebärmutter von Paris Hilten bejohlen, während den 25 Millionen Arbeitslosen 2012 der tägliche Gutschein für 80 Gramm Kartoffelchips zugetelt wird
einerderbesten 2 years ago
the most striking problem of socialism is that when everybody is equal, gets treaten equal and paid equal why would you even ever try to work hard, to success and to earn more money so you can spend more
a such society my dear comrade friends is damned to total shutdown
al650lu7e 2 years ago
Komunisten = Scheisse
DammazKronVII 2 years ago
warum? ganz ehrlich, warum?
Winthor123 2 years ago
Because communism has killed more people than Nazism and Fascism!
DammazKronVII 2 years ago
But in the history there has never been a "real" communistic state! Maybe only SOCIALIST states. But NEVER communist states ;)
But my opinion is that for example even the sovjetunion wasnt a socialist state, because I think Socialism/ Communism and dictatorship HAVE TO exclusive eachother...
Winthor123 2 years ago
Agree.
"Diktatur des Proletariats" ist NICHT Diktatur durch / does NOT mean dicatorship of Lenin, Stalin etc...
Rotront! (Trotzdem.)
VotaCommunista 2 years ago
@DammazKronVII
Want to count the victims of capitalism?
Idiot
HARDROCKJORN 2 years ago
ohh so capitalism is good .. just f.y.i capitalism => poverty
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Stalin is the Greatest Socialist of them all.
God Bless Comrad Stalin !
odcwb 2 years ago
Stalin war ein Verbrecher und Massenmörder und Gottes Schutz wollte er ja eh nicht, er war ja Kommunist
Pucky71 2 years ago 3
Stalin war kein Kommunist. Noch nicht mal ein Sozialist
Winthor123 2 years ago 2
Er hat nur den Namen missbraucht. Lenin wollte ja nicht, dass er die Partei übernimmt, er bat die Genossen sogar ihn aus seiner Stellung zu verweissen. Aber dies ist nur schriftlich vorhanden, da er zu jener Zeit krank war. Sein Nachfolger hätte eigentlich Trotzky sein müssen, aber sogar dies hatte Stallin verhindert., in dem er Trotzky ein Brief zu kommen lies und darin einen falschen Beerdigungsdatum, von Lenin, erwähnte. @Pucky 17: Stallin = Kein Kommunist = Hitler nah
MarxistKarl 2 years ago 3
bush is greatest kapitalism war criminal! thats right...
vintason 2 years ago
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Mit allen Waffen gegen komunist! 88
15956747469 2 years ago
Warum verstecken sich eigentlich alle hinter solchen Namen wie Sozialismus, Kommunismus, Liberalismus etc.
Es gibt kein perfektes System, aber es gibt gute Teile in fast allen. Man sollte diese Teile nehmen und im System einbauen. Dafür ist die Demokratie geeignet.
Trekie92 2 years ago 4
Mütterchen Russland? Stalin der Mörder ? wahnsinn !
WIr brauchen einen tragbaren Sozialismus keine linke Diktatur
Tuxer78 2 years ago 4
LONG LIVE MOTHER RUSSIA!
snippakid788 2 years ago
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COMMUNIST SCUM! NATIONALIST! yeah why do you pick on jews what did they do
gmorr12345 2 years ago
Apperently your an idiot not to even know what people do. Communists never once hurt the Jewish people. Vladimir Lenin,Leon Trotsky, Friedreich Engles, and Karl Marx were Jewish ethnicly not in a Religious way.
PolishSoviet 2 years ago
Stalin did, after WW2 he started on a purge of Jews in the party. I cite Simon Sebag Montefiore as my example for this, and his book Court of the red Tsar.
I accept he wasn't a true Communist, or even a Socialist but however to the ignorant it would seem that socialisms record isn't beyong reproach.
davyt12345 2 years ago
Yes Stalin was as much an fascist as an Hitler, more or less, one-party-system or even dictatorship aint part of communism
markkuwerkko 2 years ago 2
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Fuckiness communists!
You killed a lot of Hungarian in 1956!
And you killed our country too!
You are as idiot as the jews!
Sieg Heil!
Fight against the communist terror!
14/88
Kitartás!Éljen Szálasi!
GUNrealkiller 2 years ago
hitler would be amused.
scheissfreak 2 years ago 2
what's wrong being jew? I'm jewish. Have I done anything wrong? Don't judge me, you don't know me.
sarauss 2 years ago 10
He won´t understand that.
To him (and to many other idiots) jews are "evil parasites" and everything that speaks against that, is part of the camouflage of the "zionistic conspiracy".
If somebody has build a prison for his own mind in the size of a shoe box you can´t reach him with words any longer.
NKA23 2 years ago
its ridiculous to call someone "jew"
theres no difference between a semit and any other human..
a jew is a religious person who worships jehova!
we as communists shouldnt stick to this racist bourgeois bullshit..
marx wasnt a jew.. he wasnt a religious person at all..
R3dSt4r90 2 years ago
"a jew is a religious person who worships jehova!"
No, A Jew is someone who worships Yahweh.
Jehova is the wrong pronunciation for יַהְוֶה , The Masoretes added vowel points (niqqud) and cantillation marks to the manuscripts to indicate vowel usage and for use in the ritual chanting of readings from the Bible in synagogue services. To יהוה they added the vowels for "Adonai"
jerome96114 2 years ago
("My Lord"), the word to use when the text was read. Because the name was no longer pronounced and its own vowels were not written, its own pronunciation was forgotten. When Christians, unaware of the Jewish tradition, started to read the Hebrew Bible, they read יְהֹוָה as written with YHWH's consonants with Adonai's vowels, and thus said or transcribed Iehovah.
jerome96114 2 years ago
Marx was a German Jew ,That is a fact. he lived of Engels family wealth.
ola3541 2 years ago
No, his father was jew, Marx was christian.
He was even a kind of antisemitic...
premierministersiebk 2 years ago
Wasn't he an athiest?
abola2121 2 years ago
U are right. He was a born christian, but as a grown up man, he turned atheistic...
premierministersiebk 2 years ago
Marx did surely NOT define himself as a jew.
VotaCommunista 2 years ago
@sarauss Be proud of your Jewish heritage
BIG G
gerard1875 1 year ago
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@sarauss Burn in Hell Jew , your race betrays Christ!!
valkoren 1 year ago
@valkoren let me guess: you don't like any other religion because you think yours is the only one? one suggestion from me: look in the bible read what jesus wants us to do: he wants us to love each other. you know it's quite hard to write this as a non-religious person but probably other arguments aren't heard at all.
and after all: jesus was a jew too. if he even existed. the bible is not a report from the past! and i think you know too what christians did in the past! think before you hate!
mambaist 1 year ago
@valkoren Jesus Christ was a jew you fuckfaced idiot. Go fucking read the bible
SMGJohn 1 year ago
@valkoren
Christianity appears stupid when you talk like that. does jesus really want racial segregation?
BobaFett47 1 year ago
@sarauss You a Jew? AWSOME!!!
TheDutchGame 1 year ago
what about the Nazi invasion of hungry and your killing of over 6 million Jewish people and 40 million Soviets. lol you have killed more then Communists have. only fools think that Nazism is great much like your self. The 1956 Revolt would have brought a liberal, more or less, Pro-Western Regime.
PolishSoviet 2 years ago
and who kicked the Nazis arses??
I think it starts with a U-S-S-R
Who's flag flew over the Reichstag? U-S-S-R
I rest my case agianst GUNrealkiller
MattRfromBelfast 2 years ago
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奴隶制(共产主义)，奴隶主(共产党)拥有奴隶(人民)的制度。奴隶(人民)须为奴隶主(共产党)干活，无报酬，且无人身自由。法律确认奴隶为奴隶主的私有财产，共产主义跟奴隶制也一样，国家所有财产归共产党。人民跟本不可能享受自己生产所得的回报。奴隶主(共产党)对奴隶(人民)握有生杀予夺的权力，可随意奴役、杀害。奴隶(人民)没有独立的人格，没有任何自由和权利。
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nationalists unite against communist terror
sonicdude4 2 years ago
Nationalists are idiots so I dont think they'd be a problem to us Communists.
PolishSoviet 2 years ago 3
do you know why nazis fought the communists at all? cuz the guys behind the nazi party were capitalists. they wanted war, and got the stupid people to follow
(second hand info)
eliwoood1 2 years ago 4
Lenin the best!
psovieology 2 years ago
Facking nazi
daco145 2 years ago 2
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Nationalists unite!
United against this red monster!
FlandersIndependant 2 years ago
OMG, please, try to think sometimes dude.
ggaudin1 2 years ago
your statement is almost as bald as mine.......
psovieology 2 years ago
YASASIN KOMMÜNIZM
x62kurde62x 2 years ago
Yashasin Socialist Inqilab!
Ozbekistandan salom, Arkadash!
IvanKolosnik 2 years ago
PEOPLE DON´T LISTEN TO Belaya Armiya Forever.
Belaya Armiya means White Army, the Army which killed millions of people in the russian Revolution, the Army under the monarchist/imperialist/capitalist banner. The revolution started, because these pricks stealed everything from the russian folk and if the communists are so evil, why russia had 3 Revolutions in that time? Why over 5 million people were on Lenins burial and cried? And why there are so many communists now?
LONG LIVE LENIN!!!
OEddiO 2 years ago 3
Your right! ... shame stalin took it from lenin and lenin died to soon for the world tough he was pretty old
daco145 2 years ago
Lenin was 54 when he died.
alinapopa1969 2 years ago
very shame my friend :(
daco145 2 years ago
Lenin was a bloody hard-working man. THis you have consider as well.
psovieology 2 years ago
lenin was a great man, stalin ruined it all, nearly all the problems which drove ussr to death were caused by stalin
ggaudin1 2 years ago 5
Communism = The illusion that you can obtain freedom by handing your rights and property over to a big government and killing all those who dont agree with you.
Oh YAY!! Sign me up for that ! i dont get taxed enough already !
BelayaArmiyaForever 2 years ago
Big government is modern liberalism. Taken to its extreme as an econonic system it is state capitalism. Communism is nothing to do with either. Communism is common ownership + economic democracy. Still, I can see why you'd be confused. In the US, the people who called themselves liberals are illiberal and the conservatives are classical liberals who don't conserve. And as for the Libertarians, is that meant to be some sort of joke? Market fundementalism does not equal libertarianism!
alewisuk 2 years ago
Communism in itself denies the big government, it stands for self-governing of citizens (communes, soviets).
Why kill? Just gulag them. If some son of a bith denies holocaust (for example) - imprison him! Yes, this is the essense of communism - no one is allowed to say what is politically incorrect.
IvanKolosnik 2 years ago