Ich frage mich ob Dawkins Salomons Buch gelesen hat...
Salomon hat den Rechtsstreit gegen Bischof Müller gewonnen, der über Dawkins und Salomon als Vertreter eines agressiven Atheismus herzieht. Er hat in einer Predigt behauptet die beiden würden Kindermord gutheißen. Ich fand es lustig und interessant die Details des Rechtsstreit zu lesen:
ALTHOUGH I'M A CONSERVATIVE CHRISTIAN (Baptist), I no longer believe that the Bible teaches eternal torment or suffering. The Bible teaches eternal punishment, but it's not eternal torment. In my popular Internet article, TRADITIONAL DOCTRINE OF HELL EVOLVED FROM GREEK ROOTS, I explain how and why teaching of eternal torment entered early into Christianity and how Scriptures have been misinterpreted and taken out of context to support that teaching. ~Babu G. Ranganathan (B.A. theology/biology)
SCIENCE SHOWS THAT THE UNIVERSE could not have sustained itself eternally because of entropy (even in an open system). Einstein confirmed that space, matter, and time had a beginning! That beginning had to be supernatural because natural laws have no ability to bring the universe into existence from nothing. The supernatural cannot be proved by science but science points to a supernatural intelligence for the origin and order of the universe ~ HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM (Article)
EINSTEIN CONFIRMED that space and time are just as physical as matter. That's why space and time can be altered by gravity, and space produces particles. Einstein's equations show that the universe couldn’t be eternal. It had a beginning. Einstein believed, because of science, in the existence of God behind the origin and order of the universe. He didn't believe in a personal God like Christians do, but he did believe science pointed to the existence of an all powerful and intelligent Creator
THE SCIENTIFIC CASE AGAINST ATHEISM: Please read this Internet article of mine published in Russia's English Pravda. It will be a real eye-opener for all who think belief in a Creator is merely subjective blind faith. Also read my article, LIFE ON MARS NO SURPRISE (In the Earth's past there was powerful volcanic activity which spewed life-containing dirt and rocks (meteors) into outer space. Mars may literally have millions of tons of Earth soil)
THE SCIENTIFIC CASE AGAINST ATHEISM: Please read this Internet article of mine published in Russia's English Pravda. It will be a real eye-opener for all who think belief in a Creator is merely subjective blind faith. Also read my article, LIFE ON MARS NO SURPRISE (In the Earth's past there was powerful volcanic activity which spewed life-containing dirt and rocks (meteors) into outer space. Mars may literally have millions of tons of Earth soil)
NATURAL LIMITS TO EVOLUTION: Only evolution within "kinds" is genetically possible (i.e. varieties of dogs, cats, etc.), but not evolution across "kinds" (i.e. from worm to human). How were species living and reproducing if their vital structures, organs, reproductive systems hadn't evolved yet? Read my Pravda Internet article: WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS! I discuss: Punctuated Equilibrium, "Junk DNA," genetics, mutations, natural selection, fossils, genetic/biological similarities between species
DAWKINS, HITCHENS, AND HAWKING REFUSE TO DEBATE with creationists who are SCIENTISTS, such as the scientists at The Institute for Creation Research. Dawkins and his friends only debate non-scientist creationists. Read articles by scientists supporting creation at The Institute for Creation Research site. Read analysis from creation scientists about the latest news on fossils, genetics, astronomy, etc. that you won't read in the main stream media. Visit the Institute for Creation Research site.
INTELLIGENT DESIGN ON ANOTHER PLANET? Imagine finding a planet where robots are programmed to make other robots just like themselves from raw materials. Now, imagine an alien scientist visiting the planet and, after studying these robots, comes to the conclusion that because science can explain how these robots work, function, and reproduce there's no reason to believe there was an intelligent designer behind them! Read my Internet article: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM
WHAT IS SCIENCE? Science simply is knowledge based on observation. No one observed the universe coming by chance or by design, by creation or by macro-evolution. These are positions of faith. The issue is which faith the scientific evidence best supports. Natural laws can explain how an airplane or a cell works, but it's irrational to believe that mere undirected natural laws can bring about either. Read my Internet article: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM
SCIENTISTS HAVE NEVER CREATED LIFE. And, even if they do it won't be by chance but by intelligent design. By genetically engineering already existing forms of life, scientists have produced new forms of life, but they did not produce these new life forms from non-living matter. Even in synthetic life, scientists design and build DNA from scratch, through intelligent design, and then insert their man-made DNA into an already living cell. Read my article: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM
THE ODDS of the sequence of molecules in a cell coming together by chance are similar to the odds of magnetic letters randomly bonding together in a sequence to form all the words and sentences in a dictionary. Without the right sequence, a cell's molecules won't work. Amino acids can come by chance but not proteins. Without DNA there can be no proteins and vice versa. Gradually won't do. It's all at once or not at all for a cell's survival. Read my article: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM
THE ODDS of the sequence of molecules in a cell coming together by chance are similar to the odds of magnetic letters randomly bonding together in a sequence to form all the words and sentences in a dictionary. Without the right sequence, a cell's molecules won't work. Amino acids can come by chance but not proteins. Without DNA there can be no proteins and vice versa. Gradually won't do. It's all at once or not at all for a cell's survival. Read my article: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM
NATURAL SELECTION DOESN'T PRODUCE ANYTHING. It can only "select" from what is produced that has survival value. If a variation occurs that helps a species survive, that survival is called being "selected." That's all it is. There's no conscious selection by nature. It's a passive process. Natural selection is a figure of speech. The term itself is a tautology. Natural selection only operates once there is life and reproduction, not before. Read my article: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM.
NATURAL SELECTION DOESN'T PRODUCE ANYTHING. It can only "select" from what is produced that has survival value. If a variation occurs that helps a species survive, that survival is called being "selected." That's all it is. There's no conscious selection by nature. It's a passive process. Natural selection is a figure of speech. The term itself is a tautology. Natural selection only operates once there is life and reproduction, not before. Read my article: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM.
NATURAL SELECTION IS NO BLIND WATCHMAKER because it can only "select," not produce or arrange. If a variation survives, that's called being "selected." Natural selection operates only once there is life and reproduction, not before, so it couldn't have been involved in life's origins. A partially-evolved cell (an oxymoron) would quickly disintegrate. It couldn't wait ("survive") millions of years for chance to complete it and then make it alive! Read: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM
ARE FOSSILS REALLY MILLIONS OF YEARS OLD? Popular Internet article examines assumptions concerning fossil deposition as well as built-in assumptions involved in modern radiometric dating (not used for dating fossils but other rocks), and arguments from starlight and time. Discusses lack of true transitional forms in the fossil record and lack of "age" sequence of the fossil layers. Discussion of mixed species (i.e. dinosaur, reptile, mammal fossils in the same stratum).
IMAGINE A FISH WITH PART FINS, part feet with the fins evolving (transitioning) into feet. What survival benefit would there be? The fish couldn't use its fins or its feet, and there are no fossils showing such a creature ever existed. They only exist on automobile bumper stickers! There are no true transitional forms, either living or fossilized. Evolutionists realize this fact! Read my Internet article: WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS!
APES ARE QUITE COMFORTABLE IN HOW THEY WALK, just as humans are quite comfortable in how they walk. Even a slight change in the position of a muscle or bone, for either, would be excruciatingly painful and would not be an advantage for survival. There's no hard evidence that humans evolved from ape-like creatures anymore than there's hard evidence that apes evolved from four-legged-pawed dog-like creatures. Read Internet article: MISSING LINKS THAT NEVER WERE.
GENETIC INFORMATION CANNOT HAPPEN BY CHANCE, so it's more logical to believe that genetic similarities between all forms of life are due to a common Designer who designed similar functions for similar purposes. It doesn't mean all forms of life are biologically related! Also, "Junk DNA" isn't junk. These non-coding segments of DNA have recently been found to be vital in regulating gene expression. Read my popular Internet article: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM
ALL REAL EVOLUTION ( i.e. varieties of dogs, cats, etc.) in nature is the expression, over time, of already existing genes. Evolution is possible only if there’s information (genes) directing it. Only variations of already existing genes are possible, which means only limited evolution and adaptations are possible. Nature has no ability to invent new genes via random mutations caused by random environmental forces. That’s evolutionary faith, not science. Read my article, WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS!
DO EYES CARRY SCARS OF EVOLUTION? Read this fantastic Internet article by biologist and creationist Brian Thomas. Thomas refutes every argument of a "flawed" design for the eye, and explains how and why the so-called flaw is actually the best thing for the eye. Read the article! It's amazing what facts evolutionists will ignore. Numerous times evolutionists have been proven wrong about their interpretation of a structure as being flawed or useless.
Just think about it, you have to assume that biological evolution did occur in order to claim anything being evidence for it.
1 - biological evolution did occur. 2 - everything "points" towards evolution (if you make it point to it). 3 - therefore biological evolution did occur.
- Why are you snipping with your fingers? - To keep the elephants away. - But there aren't any elephants! - Pretty effective, isn't it?
I wish there was more of support for Atheists. I deal with depression, and, searching for something to support myself emotionally, I could only find the typical support from this "God." It is rather sad
@Freedom1sOur Well, actually, I've never seen any evidence, that for example a creationist uses some kind of logic, so I guess they have no brain... maybe we should really look inside, so we can find at least one evidence. :-D
@Freedom1sOur A boat is made by men, we don't know yet how the universe came into existence. I'm sorry, but this is a very bad analogy. It seems that you see only answer A and B. A = God created everything, B = the universe just "happened". You think B is false, therefore A must be right. How can you know that? Maybe there is an answer C we haven't found yet. ;-)
then you have no knowledge of the creation of the evoultion theorie and what the people who brought it forth made some statements and brought proofs..such as..
darwin said : there are just two possible things that had created all ...
A . Evoultion...
B. a super inteligent ( God)
there is no C answer and that is the position of every scientist.
@Freedom1sOur Quoting someone famous is not an argument. Maybe solipsism is true, who knows? ;-)
Actually I do have knowledge about evolution, but the "theory" (it's already proven) of evolution has nothing to do with the universe. Well, maybe it has, but actually it just explains how this variety of animals came into existence.
@Freedom1sOur Well, there are things that are more likely to be true, than others... and as long as they don't get disproved by something, that has more evidence to support it, it stays as the "truth". Just like evolution has the most evidence at the moment. If someone comes up with a better theory that is supported by more or better evidence, then I'll believe that.
nope it is the only theorie that is being researched ...because people who think they are superinteligent find other things which already are proven in the quran ...to claim it they have found something...
@Freedom1sOur face palm. You claim to have knowledge of something in your holy book after it has been discovered. That's basically trying to interpreting the Koran however you like to fit it. That's fail.
very simple judged ...but have we not learned that life is not simple nor that exist is simple...it is just the fact you cant accept ... it is just the fact that you are a son of a dog not of a monkey lOOL or even both hahaha a mix up of them.
No, it's the fact that YOU cannot accept the scientific evidence which pesents a challange to the rib story.
"you are a son of a dog not of a monkey"
There is a saying that dog is mans best friend. But anyway, you probably look at dogs in a lowly manner. Dogs have something that Muslims have lost. It's called empathy, your religion has killed the part of the brain which allows you to empathise for others instead of thinking for self only.
@Freedom1sOur I actually read the quran and it wasn't very convincing. It's the same with the bible, you can interpret it in so many different ways... but it still doesn't say: "Hey, 'this and that' is gravity, because of 'those things' and it affects 'blabla' in that certain way."
I never read something like that in the quran.
It's really surprising, that you guys claim that the quran knew something before, but still you can't really understand and explain why it works the way it does. ^^
@realkontschi gravity is a scientific word invented by humans. I also read the quran, it contains no scientific word simply because it is not a book of science.
@smael5 ...and still muslims take those words as scientific claims to prove that the quran is true... doesn't really make sense to me. Either the book explains something, which can be taken as an evidence for it to be the word of god, or it is just a collection of BS.
@realkontschi Yes, because science is the language of this time. If you check the scientific miracles in the quran, you will find many. I remember a great one which shows that the child sex is determined by his father and not by his mother.This has been showed 1400 years ago at the time when science was still poor.
You are either ignorant or insane if you don't believe in evolution. Most in the USA are ignorant, WILLFULLY ignorant, of the facts pertaining to evolution. A minority are classically insane, thinking to understand evolution is to condemn yourself to an eternity in hell-fire. They are in the mildest terms, dillusional beyond comprehension. Sad, so very sad.
@PullThePlugOnFaith He stole the title xD That book was written by Friedrich Nietzche...apparently the case still needs to be made, that moralistic thinking has only created hypocrisy, corruption, tyranny and oppression. And those who dispute the statement made by Dawkins should read his books, and the Origin of the Species, as well as a high school biology textbook. Hell, go to wikipedia for a couple hours. Actually learn evolution before rejecting it.
Well, if you look it up, you'll find its a book from Friedrich Nietzsche, i guess M. Schimdt rewrote it.
The title in english is "Beyond Good and Evil", and there is a wikipedia artikle aboud it in english, so i bet you can find somewere in the filosofy section.
i have evidence that the white man is the devil. a pale hypopigmentation rhythmless inhumane manipulating soulless cave dwelling albino malignant melanoma wicked devil
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new-atheism is just as evil and oppressive as theism.
To teach your child "this is right, believe this, and all others who challenge these basic principles are evil." this is just the same as why you fight religion. New- Atheists are making us look bad lol...
True Atheists don't believe in vestigial terms or empty concepts like "good and evil," and oppression is always the result of ignorance in society, not religious or philosophical beliefs.
We don't think religion is bad, we think people are too irresponsible to reasonably handle faith and reality simultaneously. You can worship your Gods without involving yourselves in abortion debates, gay marriages, blowing up Muslims or molesting choir boys, but your'e too busy being egotistical.
How could I have invented something that's been here since time itself?
I'm no longer an atheist, but what I meant when I made that comment was that without dogma to influence your thinking, you learn to understand that there is no black vs white, or "good vs evil." If you still cling to these concepts then your not free of dogmatic thinking and thus not really an atheist.
People make bad decisions but that doesn't make them bad people. That's all I as trying to say.
I'm both an atheist and a Christian at the same time.
I don't believe in Jehovah, I refuse to peruse any knowledge of god and I find most of the old testament to be insulting in that it describes such a pathetic excuse for god, but I do believe that god exists on a level we'll never understand and I believe that Jesus was something like his son.
There is no discrepancy here. I don't waste m time trying to understand God because no one can. I refuse to believe a word of scripture because God cannot be reduced down to words and thus the only way to be anything like respectful of god is to is to be an atheist about it.
That doesn't mean Jesus didn't exist, he may very well have been the son of god and believing that he existed makes me no less an atheist.
There's nothing non-atheist about believing in Jesus and that he was a great man worthy to this day of our love.
That's what makes me a Christian, I believe in Jesus Christ and I believe he did die with the intention of freeing us from sin itself. I don't believe in God though.
Not because I don't think he exists, he may, but I believe that God wishes to remain anonymous. Thus the best way to honor God is to be an Atheist.
You are a complete moron. In what sense does 'new atheism' consist of "this is right, believe this, and all others who challenge these basic principles are evil."?
I didn't know Germany had a top atheist, I just knew that Michael Schmidt-Salomon wrote secular books for children. I think I'll get a copy of the book you presented. Thanks a lot!
It's not a double standard if there's plenty of evidence for one theory,and zip,nada,nothin' for the other pseudo-hypothesis.Trying to get a creationist to look at the facts is like trying to administer medicine to a corpse.
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Yes, Evolution is a fact. Scientists study Evolution and come to conclusions that verify the theory without actually seeing it directly in action.
Yet when it comes to Intelligence and purpose in life, they (not all but many) claim that the intuitions and the indirect evidence of us being created, it's a different story.
2:14 is important. Listen to the vast majority of evolution "skeptics" and marvel at the utter butchering of the topic, concept, its claims, and its proof. When we consider that some people believe evolution means "the world came from nothing" or that "we came from monkeys/rocks/etc" or that evolution's validity relies on the discovery of a crocoduck...if we consider that, it's not hard to see why people don't believe. It's also hard to understand why they maintain such ignorance.
I've heard that atheism is on the rise but I doubt it.
But it is a shame that some people believe the earth is only 6-10,000 years old. I'm actually getting Dawkins book sometime this month or next to see if it's as good as some people make it out to be.
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Dawkins makes good points, but he's a pompous ass, IMHO. I read "Delusion" and "Watchmaker"......'yawn'.....a LOT of pomp and circumstance for a book that could easily contain it's core premise in 200 pages. He's a longwinded author- but THOUROUGH.
Dawkins' work is not the most enjoyable reading material for folks who are already convinced that evolution occurs. However, many of the redundant examples and scientifically pointless tangents he brings up are necessary to head off the infantile arguments pushed by creationists who generally lack an understanding of biology or science generally. Their endless stream of unsubstantiated straw men and misunderstood concepts, in spite of being unadulterated chaff, is tedious to counter.
There is one crisis though.humans are still humans the shit is still inside of them no matter how much they keep vomitting out.They can have sand from the desert to make glass but they belly is still of full of dirt.Have some wisdom please!or call your grandad and tell him since when you were dropped as a rock from space.
i know that you are correct, but good luck convincing the loonie masses of the usa. they will continue to believe whatever their masters tell them to believe, despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary.
well, that depends, some creationists teach pseudoscience to others, which is a crime in my opinion. those people should be confronted on there religious beliefs.
It is the stupid religious people who create the myth that there is somehow something wrong with pleasure and recreational sex. This is false. Fear of human sexuality and expression is the worse form of sexual perversion. There is no good rape and bad rape, all rape is the same. There are no good victims and bad victims, all victims are the same. There is no good consensual sex and bad consensual sex. All consensual sex is the same. Any who say otherwise are telling a lie.
The US has been co opted by right wing religious wing nuts, dangerous warmongering profiteers more interested in money than life.
Keep your gods in your heart said Mom, I tire of priests with one hand in the collection plate, and the other up an alter boys pants. What we'd expect after century's of sifting the mentally ill for the voluntarily celebate running our churches? An abundance of child abusers and troubled homosexuals is what.
I just bought this book today and looking forward to reading it, everything this man has to say is worth listening to. I can't believe the amount of people in the U.S that don't believe in evolution its scary they really are stupid arrogant idiots
Questions for Greig1424; What is so "scary" if many do not believe in evolution? Many biologists admit that TOE doesn't change what they do. They would still be studying the very same things they are now without it.. And labeling those that disagree as "stupid arrogant idiots" hardly helps the cause. If there is a single binding principle in the New Atheist Movement, it is cleary hate. Where does this hate come from? I can't believe you where ALL molested by priest.
First thing children who were molested off priests usually go on to become heroin addicts not atheists. It strikes me as very ironic that without religion there would be no priests therefore no world wide peadophile ring hiding behind a man made entity called God. Also there is no hate in atheism only a view that all life is beautiful and that people are all equal. It would seem to me that the binding principle of religion is hate, fear, embarrasment and guilt.
But to say morals are wrong? Woah... That is some funky juice you are drinking.
Obviously I have not read the first book advertised, and it might just be a language translation problem. But to state we would be better without morals - can someone please explain what that means?
By the way take a look what's going on I'm my country Costa Rica right now:
San Jose (Editor). 16 representatives of various fractions expressed this afternoon his strong opposition to constitutional reform submitted last week to remove the word "God" of the constitutional oath.
Maybe the letters to Corinth put it best: "When I was a child, I spoke like a child, thought like a child, and reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I gave up my childish ways."
It would be a fantastic irony if those two sentences from the bible were adopted by folks who believe in the divinity of the bible.
I think all scientists and educated humans alike must agree that all of us are capable of both great good AND great evil.
I think that God Or Satan or any other divine or unholy entity is merely a manifestation of a human persons consciousness and imagination of a vauge idea on what Good or Evil may or may not represent and or look like.
We base these entities on human desire for greater good or greater evil. Real? Fallacy? Who knows? But religion should never rule predominant thought.
At last the thinkers are speaking out loud and it is muffling the morons of superstitition. Time to put away such childish things. Keep the rationale alive and humanbeings may survive past this century.
wow ofcourse there is evolution, but that doesnt affect anyhow the existance of good and evil, and one had to be very shallow minded to deny god through evolution... and i'm not thinking of the old wise man sitting in the clouds...
2 a (1) : belief and trust in and loyalty to God (2) : belief in the traditional doctrines of a religion b (1) : firm belief in something for which there is no proof (2) : complete trust
1 a : a belief or practice resulting from ignorance, fear of the unknown, trust in magic or chance, or a false conception of causation b : an irrational abject attitude of mind toward the supernatural, nature, or God resulting from superstition
2 : a notion maintained despite evidence to the contrary
It's nice to watch a reasonable video!!! I sooo sick of coming across religious ones claiming that God healed this person or that!!! This is soooo refreshing!!
michael schmidt-salomon has written a new book?! Why haven't I heard of it?! Yeah, it's about Nietzsche, right?! Running to the bookstore - that's the fist thing I'm gonna do tomorrow morning!
I like to argue with Christians on their own playing ground. The ten commandments clearly state that "You shall have no other gods before me" and yet everyone worships Jesus. They also say "no idols" yet Christians use the crucifix and many Christians are sure they know what Jesus looked like.
The overwhelming majority of the evidence in their own bible clearly describes the Antichrist as Jesus himself. Horus was the real Messiah and Jesus was actually Satan pretending to be the messiah. lol
I don´t think we are better without morals. The problem is not the moral per se, but what kind of moral there is. I think there are positive kinds of morals. The new atheism is running a blind crusade against religions. It´s a pay back. As atheists we shouldn´t imitate religion´s bigotry. We shouldn´t imitate anything at all.
Atheism isn't about rejecting morals or claiming we don't have them it explains how we got them and why you can derive them on your own without the need for a sky-daddy.
Evolution explains why we are social creatures and why we have empathy but mostly just with people we see and know.
Schmidt-Salomon is probably the best critique of religion and stupidity in general Germany has to offer at the moment. If you can, get your hands on his "Manifest of evolutionary Humanism", it's well worth reading.
I dont think that "new atheist" is a fitting term. Afterall it's not only about religion or belief in gods. It's about promoting critical thinking and debuking false claims through logic,reason and evidence. I think something on the nuances of "active skeptic" would be a more appropriate term.
We must expect strong reaction to what we believe; atheism, humanism, truth - these are not welcomed by those who seek to unreasonably control their fellow human beings.
Freedom is never easily won; win, ultimately, we will - - - but it will cost us dear.
I'm re-reading The Blind Watchmaker, but I need to go to the bookshop again!
As for morality and the way religious zealots whine about it:
"After Tao was lost, then came the 'power'; After the 'power' was lost, then came human kindness; After human kindness was lost, then came morality; After morality was lost, then came ritual. Now ritual is the mere husk of loyalty and promise-keeping."
TTC38, The Old Boy. Trans Arthur Whaley
Religious "morality" is a load of artificial nonsense.
This is our century, Atheists. Don't fuck it up. This is our chance to get ahead - and we are so far. It's the beginning of the end for religion if we keep going at this rate.
Paha you can't be serious TheStig000? Atheists are up against a whole world of superstition - the only place to really put a stop to religious indoctrination is by stopping it in the classroom and making it taboo to preach to your children - sadly it looks more and more unlikely.
But we shouldn't give up, you are right about that!
Agreeing with evolution doesn't mean one has to be an atheist. I know religious folks of various religions, who believe in evolution and are still believing in their god views too. My biology and genetics professor in college is such a person, for example.
So religious folks shouldn't be so threatened, as they can still believe in their god and evolution at same time. They just can't take biblical Genesis as a textbook. LOL!
40% of Americans don't "believe in" evolution. Wow. How can the richest nation on the planet also be amongst the most stupid? Where do they spend all their money? Obviously not on education!
I wouldn't call America the richest nation in the world when we have a national dept in the trillions and owe if I am not mistaken china trillions of of dollars. lol The real edcuation is learning we are not a rich nation, but a nation built on debt.
Well, there's always little accents and stuff. I've heard a lot of people who pronounce it both ways. Americans tend to pronounce it "ev-olution" though.
There's something I've always wondered, and I think I can ask it here. Ok, so I think everyone here would agree that religion is simply a psychological coping mechanism. It's purpose is to give strength and hope to an individual to promote their survival. So then, if religion's purpose is to HELP, then why do some people have conflicting beliefs? For example, if one believes in the concept of heaven, why then would they also believe in some circumstance that bars them from ever entering it??
Here's the main example I wonder about. If one chooses to believe in heaven, then typically they'll believe that living a good/clean/honest life, filled with hard work and sacrifice, will ultimately be rewarded with entrance into a blissful, eternal afterlife. It's a belief that gives you hope and perseverance in order to get you through this hard life. However, some gays who believe in heaven ALSO choose to believe that being gay bars them from ever being allowed in!
I mean honestly, why believe in something amazing like heaven, only to ALSO believe that you'll never be allowed in?? And furthermore, why believe in the concept of hell if you also believe you're going there? It makes no sense! That's not helping you or giving you hope, it's doing the exact opposite - stressing you out and demoralizing you.
What a great mystery of the human mind. Dan Dennet postulates that the fear of death is also incorporated in this coping system. And still the moral unrest committed by religious advocates is surprisingly high. With such a stiff penalty one would think the believer would heed the religious warning. Yet most (not all) followers "cherry pick" the parts of religious dogma's in which they participate. Basically religion is a repressive system of humanity.
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Looking at a video like this says only one thing, atheism has driven many human beings insane.
mrtadreamer 3 weeks ago
Look at a video like this says only one thing atheism has driven many human beings insane.
mrtadreamer 3 weeks ago
Ich frage mich ob Dawkins Salomons Buch gelesen hat...
Salomon hat den Rechtsstreit gegen Bischof Müller gewonnen, der über Dawkins und Salomon als Vertreter eines agressiven Atheismus herzieht. Er hat in einer Predigt behauptet die beiden würden Kindermord gutheißen. Ich fand es lustig und interessant die Details des Rechtsstreit zu lesen:
schmidt-salomon.de/mss-mueller09.pdf
schmidt-salomon.de/mss-mueller.htm
Bergkrebs 3 months ago
ALTHOUGH I'M A CONSERVATIVE CHRISTIAN (Baptist), I no longer believe that the Bible teaches eternal torment or suffering. The Bible teaches eternal punishment, but it's not eternal torment. In my popular Internet article, TRADITIONAL DOCTRINE OF HELL EVOLVED FROM GREEK ROOTS, I explain how and why teaching of eternal torment entered early into Christianity and how Scriptures have been misinterpreted and taken out of context to support that teaching. ~Babu G. Ranganathan (B.A. theology/biology)
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SCIENCE SHOWS THAT THE UNIVERSE could not have sustained itself eternally because of entropy (even in an open system). Einstein confirmed that space, matter, and time had a beginning! That beginning had to be supernatural because natural laws have no ability to bring the universe into existence from nothing. The supernatural cannot be proved by science but science points to a supernatural intelligence for the origin and order of the universe ~ HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM (Article)
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EINSTEIN CONFIRMED that space and time are just as physical as matter. That's why space and time can be altered by gravity, and space produces particles. Einstein's equations show that the universe couldn’t be eternal. It had a beginning. Einstein believed, because of science, in the existence of God behind the origin and order of the universe. He didn't believe in a personal God like Christians do, but he did believe science pointed to the existence of an all powerful and intelligent Creator
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THE SCIENTIFIC CASE AGAINST ATHEISM: Please read this Internet article of mine published in Russia's English Pravda. It will be a real eye-opener for all who think belief in a Creator is merely subjective blind faith. Also read my article, LIFE ON MARS NO SURPRISE (In the Earth's past there was powerful volcanic activity which spewed life-containing dirt and rocks (meteors) into outer space. Mars may literally have millions of tons of Earth soil)
Mogley52 4 months ago
THE SCIENTIFIC CASE AGAINST ATHEISM: Please read this Internet article of mine published in Russia's English Pravda. It will be a real eye-opener for all who think belief in a Creator is merely subjective blind faith. Also read my article, LIFE ON MARS NO SURPRISE (In the Earth's past there was powerful volcanic activity which spewed life-containing dirt and rocks (meteors) into outer space. Mars may literally have millions of tons of Earth soil)
Mogley52 4 months ago
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NATURAL LIMITS TO EVOLUTION: Only evolution within "kinds" is genetically possible (i.e. varieties of dogs, cats, etc.), but not evolution across "kinds" (i.e. from worm to human). How were species living and reproducing if their vital structures, organs, reproductive systems hadn't evolved yet? Read my Pravda Internet article: WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS! I discuss: Punctuated Equilibrium, "Junk DNA," genetics, mutations, natural selection, fossils, genetic/biological similarities between species
Mogley52 4 months ago
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DAWKINS, HITCHENS, AND HAWKING REFUSE TO DEBATE with creationists who are SCIENTISTS, such as the scientists at The Institute for Creation Research. Dawkins and his friends only debate non-scientist creationists. Read articles by scientists supporting creation at The Institute for Creation Research site. Read analysis from creation scientists about the latest news on fossils, genetics, astronomy, etc. that you won't read in the main stream media. Visit the Institute for Creation Research site.
Mogley52 4 months ago
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INTELLIGENT DESIGN ON ANOTHER PLANET? Imagine finding a planet where robots are programmed to make other robots just like themselves from raw materials. Now, imagine an alien scientist visiting the planet and, after studying these robots, comes to the conclusion that because science can explain how these robots work, function, and reproduce there's no reason to believe there was an intelligent designer behind them! Read my Internet article: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM
Mogley52 4 months ago
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WHAT IS SCIENCE? Science simply is knowledge based on observation. No one observed the universe coming by chance or by design, by creation or by macro-evolution. These are positions of faith. The issue is which faith the scientific evidence best supports. Natural laws can explain how an airplane or a cell works, but it's irrational to believe that mere undirected natural laws can bring about either. Read my Internet article: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM
Mogley52 4 months ago
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SCIENTISTS HAVE NEVER CREATED LIFE. And, even if they do it won't be by chance but by intelligent design. By genetically engineering already existing forms of life, scientists have produced new forms of life, but they did not produce these new life forms from non-living matter. Even in synthetic life, scientists design and build DNA from scratch, through intelligent design, and then insert their man-made DNA into an already living cell. Read my article: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM
Mogley52 4 months ago
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THE ODDS of the sequence of molecules in a cell coming together by chance are similar to the odds of magnetic letters randomly bonding together in a sequence to form all the words and sentences in a dictionary. Without the right sequence, a cell's molecules won't work. Amino acids can come by chance but not proteins. Without DNA there can be no proteins and vice versa. Gradually won't do. It's all at once or not at all for a cell's survival. Read my article: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM
Mogley52 4 months ago
THE ODDS of the sequence of molecules in a cell coming together by chance are similar to the odds of magnetic letters randomly bonding together in a sequence to form all the words and sentences in a dictionary. Without the right sequence, a cell's molecules won't work. Amino acids can come by chance but not proteins. Without DNA there can be no proteins and vice versa. Gradually won't do. It's all at once or not at all for a cell's survival. Read my article: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM
Mogley52 4 months ago
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NATURAL SELECTION DOESN'T PRODUCE ANYTHING. It can only "select" from what is produced that has survival value. If a variation occurs that helps a species survive, that survival is called being "selected." That's all it is. There's no conscious selection by nature. It's a passive process. Natural selection is a figure of speech. The term itself is a tautology. Natural selection only operates once there is life and reproduction, not before. Read my article: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM.
Mogley52 4 months ago
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NATURAL SELECTION DOESN'T PRODUCE ANYTHING. It can only "select" from what is produced that has survival value. If a variation occurs that helps a species survive, that survival is called being "selected." That's all it is. There's no conscious selection by nature. It's a passive process. Natural selection is a figure of speech. The term itself is a tautology. Natural selection only operates once there is life and reproduction, not before. Read my article: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM.
Mogley52 4 months ago
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NATURAL SELECTION IS NO BLIND WATCHMAKER because it can only "select," not produce or arrange. If a variation survives, that's called being "selected." Natural selection operates only once there is life and reproduction, not before, so it couldn't have been involved in life's origins. A partially-evolved cell (an oxymoron) would quickly disintegrate. It couldn't wait ("survive") millions of years for chance to complete it and then make it alive! Read: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM
Mogley52 4 months ago
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ARE FOSSILS REALLY MILLIONS OF YEARS OLD? Popular Internet article examines assumptions concerning fossil deposition as well as built-in assumptions involved in modern radiometric dating (not used for dating fossils but other rocks), and arguments from starlight and time. Discusses lack of true transitional forms in the fossil record and lack of "age" sequence of the fossil layers. Discussion of mixed species (i.e. dinosaur, reptile, mammal fossils in the same stratum).
Mogley52 4 months ago
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IMAGINE A FISH WITH PART FINS, part feet with the fins evolving (transitioning) into feet. What survival benefit would there be? The fish couldn't use its fins or its feet, and there are no fossils showing such a creature ever existed. They only exist on automobile bumper stickers! There are no true transitional forms, either living or fossilized. Evolutionists realize this fact! Read my Internet article: WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS!
Mogley52 4 months ago
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APES ARE QUITE COMFORTABLE IN HOW THEY WALK, just as humans are quite comfortable in how they walk. Even a slight change in the position of a muscle or bone, for either, would be excruciatingly painful and would not be an advantage for survival. There's no hard evidence that humans evolved from ape-like creatures anymore than there's hard evidence that apes evolved from four-legged-pawed dog-like creatures. Read Internet article: MISSING LINKS THAT NEVER WERE.
Mogley52 4 months ago
GENETIC INFORMATION CANNOT HAPPEN BY CHANCE, so it's more logical to believe that genetic similarities between all forms of life are due to a common Designer who designed similar functions for similar purposes. It doesn't mean all forms of life are biologically related! Also, "Junk DNA" isn't junk. These non-coding segments of DNA have recently been found to be vital in regulating gene expression. Read my popular Internet article: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM
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ALL REAL EVOLUTION ( i.e. varieties of dogs, cats, etc.) in nature is the expression, over time, of already existing genes. Evolution is possible only if there’s information (genes) directing it. Only variations of already existing genes are possible, which means only limited evolution and adaptations are possible. Nature has no ability to invent new genes via random mutations caused by random environmental forces. That’s evolutionary faith, not science. Read my article, WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS!
Mogley52 4 months ago
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DO EYES CARRY SCARS OF EVOLUTION? Read this fantastic Internet article by biologist and creationist Brian Thomas. Thomas refutes every argument of a "flawed" design for the eye, and explains how and why the so-called flaw is actually the best thing for the eye. Read the article! It's amazing what facts evolutionists will ignore. Numerous times evolutionists have been proven wrong about their interpretation of a structure as being flawed or useless.
Mogley52 4 months ago
Science brought us plains, trains automobiles and skyscrapers.
Religion brought plains and skyscrapers together.
torrid426 4 months ago
What if someone came by and created us out of monkeys? wouldn't that be both evolution and creationism?
Qwarkon 6 months ago
Yay, even more circular reasoning!
- We don't see evolution happen.
Just think about it, you have to assume that biological evolution did occur in order to claim anything being evidence for it.
1 - biological evolution did occur. 2 - everything "points" towards evolution (if you make it point to it). 3 - therefore biological evolution did occur.
- Why are you snipping with your fingers? - To keep the elephants away. - But there aren't any elephants! - Pretty effective, isn't it?
eagleeye2102 6 months ago
We all know that thois is fake how can you compare a human with an animal. We can see that fossils of humans bones were found
are same as ours. Everty one look at a monkey and the look at a man. Are they the same? Can they think like us.
TheLivingsteam 8 months ago
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Srebrenica was a beautiful day! 8,000 Muslims got killed!
PsychedelicShamanism 1 year ago
I wish there was more of support for Atheists. I deal with depression, and, searching for something to support myself emotionally, I could only find the typical support from this "God." It is rather sad
bajjjer 1 year ago
Atheism is the EVIL
Freedom1sOur 1 year ago
@Freedom1sOur lol :-D
realkontschi 1 year ago
@realkontschi
People who cant see anything they dont believe in ....
so aslong as they havent seen their brain they wont believe there is a brain ahhahaha
let us crsuh their heads that they see their brains maybe they will believe in it.
Freedom1sOur 1 year ago
@Freedom1sOur Well, actually, I've never seen any evidence, that for example a creationist uses some kind of logic, so I guess they have no brain... maybe we should really look inside, so we can find at least one evidence. :-D
realkontschi 1 year ago
@realkontschi
ownage ?
/watch?v=S3I5yGWKkOI
Freedom1sOur 1 year ago
@Freedom1sOur A boat is made by men, we don't know yet how the universe came into existence. I'm sorry, but this is a very bad analogy. It seems that you see only answer A and B. A = God created everything, B = the universe just "happened". You think B is false, therefore A must be right. How can you know that? Maybe there is an answer C we haven't found yet. ;-)
BTW: It's spelled "atheist" ^^
realkontschi 1 year ago
@realkontschi
then you have no knowledge of the creation of the evoultion theorie and what the people who brought it forth made some statements and brought proofs..such as..
darwin said : there are just two possible things that had created all ...
A . Evoultion...
B. a super inteligent ( God)
there is no C answer and that is the position of every scientist.
Quote end.
Freedom1sOur 1 year ago
@Freedom1sOur Quoting someone famous is not an argument. Maybe solipsism is true, who knows? ;-)
Actually I do have knowledge about evolution, but the "theory" (it's already proven) of evolution has nothing to do with the universe. Well, maybe it has, but actually it just explains how this variety of animals came into existence.
realkontschi 1 year ago
@realkontschi
omg nothing is proven in contrast every year 100 things are removed and 100 new thesis are added just to your knowledge i watch it closely. ;)
Freedom1sOur 1 year ago
@Freedom1sOur Well, there are things that are more likely to be true, than others... and as long as they don't get disproved by something, that has more evidence to support it, it stays as the "truth". Just like evolution has the most evidence at the moment. If someone comes up with a better theory that is supported by more or better evidence, then I'll believe that.
realkontschi 1 year ago
@realkontschi
nope it is the only theorie that is being researched ...because people who think they are superinteligent find other things which already are proven in the quran ...to claim it they have found something...
/watch?v=vOYpjZywUPA
Freedom1sOur 1 year ago
@Freedom1sOur So you also don't believe in gravity?
But I won't discuss about evolution. It's a fact, accept it or don't. If you want to know something about it, go to "talkorigins[dot]org".
Good night, I'll go to bed now. ;-)
realkontschi 1 year ago
@realkontschi
the gravity is proofed in the quran .... ;) before your scientist even know anything ...we have knowledge that you havent got yet ....
watch please this
/watch?v=E2s14T6x5AM
Freedom1sOur 1 year ago
@Freedom1sOur face palm. You claim to have knowledge of something in your holy book after it has been discovered. That's basically trying to interpreting the Koran however you like to fit it. That's fail.
supersmash43 1 year ago
@supersmash43
fail is believing that all created itself ....it even doesnt make any sence in maths ...
because 1 is never equal 0 ;) shut up you monkey.
Freedom1sOur 1 year ago
@Freedom1sOur well your religion sucks. Your God is nothing so how can anything come out of nothing? Therefore your God is imaginary.
supersmash43 1 year ago
@supersmash43
very simple judged ...but have we not learned that life is not simple nor that exist is simple...it is just the fact you cant accept ... it is just the fact that you are a son of a dog not of a monkey lOOL or even both hahaha a mix up of them.
Freedom1sOur 1 year ago
@Freedom1sOur Muslims cause me to face palm.
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@Freedom1sOur muslims don't insult the others.
smael5 1 year ago
@Freedom1sOur As far as i know, muslims must not insult the others.
smael5 1 year ago 2
@Freedom1sOur
"it is just the fact you cant accept"
No, it's the fact that YOU cannot accept the scientific evidence which pesents a challange to the rib story.
"you are a son of a dog not of a monkey"
There is a saying that dog is mans best friend. But anyway, you probably look at dogs in a lowly manner. Dogs have something that Muslims have lost. It's called empathy, your religion has killed the part of the brain which allows you to empathise for others instead of thinking for self only.
TurboDally 1 year ago
@Freedom1sOur I actually read the quran and it wasn't very convincing. It's the same with the bible, you can interpret it in so many different ways... but it still doesn't say: "Hey, 'this and that' is gravity, because of 'those things' and it affects 'blabla' in that certain way."
I never read something like that in the quran.
It's really surprising, that you guys claim that the quran knew something before, but still you can't really understand and explain why it works the way it does. ^^
realkontschi 1 year ago
@realkontschi gravity is a scientific word invented by humans. I also read the quran, it contains no scientific word simply because it is not a book of science.
smael5 1 year ago
@smael5 ...and still muslims take those words as scientific claims to prove that the quran is true... doesn't really make sense to me. Either the book explains something, which can be taken as an evidence for it to be the word of god, or it is just a collection of BS.
realkontschi 1 year ago
@realkontschi Yes, because science is the language of this time. If you check the scientific miracles in the quran, you will find many. I remember a great one which shows that the child sex is determined by his father and not by his mother.This has been showed 1400 years ago at the time when science was still poor.
smael5 1 year ago
You are either ignorant or insane if you don't believe in evolution. Most in the USA are ignorant, WILLFULLY ignorant, of the facts pertaining to evolution. A minority are classically insane, thinking to understand evolution is to condemn yourself to an eternity in hell-fire. They are in the mildest terms, dillusional beyond comprehension. Sad, so very sad.
FaganRoberts 1 year ago 4
¡Maravilloso! Estoy esperando la versión al Español de "The Greatest Show on Earth"
eemontero 2 years ago
0:53 cool counter strike
PullThePlugOnFaith 2 years ago 2
Can someone tell me how to get the book beyond good and evil from M. Schimdt?
PullThePlugOnFaith 2 years ago
import it from germany xD you can speak german?
guenther11krass 2 years ago
@PullThePlugOnFaith He stole the title xD That book was written by Friedrich Nietzche...apparently the case still needs to be made, that moralistic thinking has only created hypocrisy, corruption, tyranny and oppression. And those who dispute the statement made by Dawkins should read his books, and the Origin of the Species, as well as a high school biology textbook. Hell, go to wikipedia for a couple hours. Actually learn evolution before rejecting it.
lazerbeam134 1 year ago
@PullThePlugOnFaith
Well, if you look it up, you'll find its a book from Friedrich Nietzsche, i guess M. Schimdt rewrote it.
The title in english is "Beyond Good and Evil", and there is a wikipedia artikle aboud it in english, so i bet you can find somewere in the filosofy section.
wybo2 1 year ago
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i have evidence that the white man is the devil. a pale hypopigmentation rhythmless inhumane manipulating soulless cave dwelling albino malignant melanoma wicked devil
illuminated1WUN1 2 years ago
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new-atheism is just as evil and oppressive as theism.
To teach your child "this is right, believe this, and all others who challenge these basic principles are evil." this is just the same as why you fight religion. New- Atheists are making us look bad lol...
yyttr4 2 years ago
True Atheists don't believe in vestigial terms or empty concepts like "good and evil," and oppression is always the result of ignorance in society, not religious or philosophical beliefs.
We don't think religion is bad, we think people are too irresponsible to reasonably handle faith and reality simultaneously. You can worship your Gods without involving yourselves in abortion debates, gay marriages, blowing up Muslims or molesting choir boys, but your'e too busy being egotistical.
WHollabaugh 2 years ago 25
*.... not JUST religious or philosophical...."
WHollabaugh 2 years ago
@WHollabaugh
so you invented atheism, that youre able to speak for all of them?
TENNSUMITSUMA 11 months ago
@TENNSUMITSUMA
How could I have invented something that's been here since time itself?
I'm no longer an atheist, but what I meant when I made that comment was that without dogma to influence your thinking, you learn to understand that there is no black vs white, or "good vs evil." If you still cling to these concepts then your not free of dogmatic thinking and thus not really an atheist.
People make bad decisions but that doesn't make them bad people. That's all I as trying to say.
WHollabaugh 11 months ago
@WHollabaugh
what are you then
TENNSUMITSUMA 11 months ago
@TENNSUMITSUMA
I'm just another person, man. Why should my faith matter?
WHollabaugh 11 months ago
@WHollabaugh
who said it should or does? im simply asking
TENNSUMITSUMA 11 months ago
@TENNSUMITSUMA
I'm both an atheist and a Christian at the same time.
I don't believe in Jehovah, I refuse to peruse any knowledge of god and I find most of the old testament to be insulting in that it describes such a pathetic excuse for god, but I do believe that god exists on a level we'll never understand and I believe that Jesus was something like his son.
That's just me though, to each their own.
WHollabaugh 11 months ago
@WHollabaugh
by definition (atheist) you cant be an atheist and a religious person at the same time.
TENNSUMITSUMA 11 months ago
@TENNSUMITSUMA
Did I say I was religious?
There is no discrepancy here. I don't waste m time trying to understand God because no one can. I refuse to believe a word of scripture because God cannot be reduced down to words and thus the only way to be anything like respectful of god is to is to be an atheist about it.
That doesn't mean Jesus didn't exist, he may very well have been the son of god and believing that he existed makes me no less an atheist.
WHollabaugh 11 months ago
@WHollabaugh
'Did I say I was religious?'
'I'm both an atheist and a Christian at the same time.'
yeah you did. and again by definition....forget it
TENNSUMITSUMA 11 months ago
@TENNSUMITSUMA
There's nothing non-atheist about believing in Jesus and that he was a great man worthy to this day of our love.
That's what makes me a Christian, I believe in Jesus Christ and I believe he did die with the intention of freeing us from sin itself. I don't believe in God though.
Not because I don't think he exists, he may, but I believe that God wishes to remain anonymous. Thus the best way to honor God is to be an Atheist.
But that's just my view, to each their own.
WHollabaugh 10 months ago
You are a complete moron. In what sense does 'new atheism' consist of "this is right, believe this, and all others who challenge these basic principles are evil."?
ervin2 2 years ago
"new-atheism is just..."
The same as "old" atheism, without a belief in deities.
"evil and oppressive as..."
Atheists are people who do not hold a belief in god, that is the only commonality between atheists.
TurboDally 2 years ago
your title well said. we are entering a post-christian era
nonthiestnc 2 years ago 5
I didn't know Germany had a top atheist, I just knew that Michael Schmidt-Salomon wrote secular books for children. I think I'll get a copy of the book you presented. Thanks a lot!
dattelpalme83 2 years ago 3
It's not a double standard if there's plenty of evidence for one theory,and zip,nada,nothin' for the other pseudo-hypothesis.Trying to get a creationist to look at the facts is like trying to administer medicine to a corpse.
VanGoghsEar1890 2 years ago 19
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Yes, Evolution is a fact. Scientists study Evolution and come to conclusions that verify the theory without actually seeing it directly in action.
Yet when it comes to Intelligence and purpose in life, they (not all but many) claim that the intuitions and the indirect evidence of us being created, it's a different story.
Double standards are fun.
DawahFilms 2 years ago
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9/11 was an inside job.
antivirusdesign 2 years ago
2:14 is important. Listen to the vast majority of evolution "skeptics" and marvel at the utter butchering of the topic, concept, its claims, and its proof. When we consider that some people believe evolution means "the world came from nothing" or that "we came from monkeys/rocks/etc" or that evolution's validity relies on the discovery of a crocoduck...if we consider that, it's not hard to see why people don't believe. It's also hard to understand why they maintain such ignorance.
GatorHighlights3 2 years ago
I've heard that atheism is on the rise but I doubt it.
But it is a shame that some people believe the earth is only 6-10,000 years old. I'm actually getting Dawkins book sometime this month or next to see if it's as good as some people make it out to be.
AngelicSnowGirl 2 years ago
It's pretty good, but if you want something a bit more philosophical and interesting check out Christopher Hitchens' God is not great
GatorHighlights3 2 years ago
I read that right after I read the God Delusion.
AngelicSnowGirl 2 years ago
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Dawkins makes good points, but he's a pompous ass, IMHO. I read "Delusion" and "Watchmaker"......'yawn'.....a LOT of pomp and circumstance for a book that could easily contain it's core premise in 200 pages. He's a longwinded author- but THOUROUGH.
homeostasis4me 2 years ago
Yeah he is a bit long winded. I had to read parts of his book Ancestor's tale for my evolution class.
AngelicSnowGirl 2 years ago
Did you assert in that class that you believe the theory to be invalid?
homeostasis4me 2 years ago
Actually I didn't because at that time I considered myself to be a theistic evolutionist.
AngelicSnowGirl 2 years ago
Dawkins' work is not the most enjoyable reading material for folks who are already convinced that evolution occurs. However, many of the redundant examples and scientifically pointless tangents he brings up are necessary to head off the infantile arguments pushed by creationists who generally lack an understanding of biology or science generally. Their endless stream of unsubstantiated straw men and misunderstood concepts, in spite of being unadulterated chaff, is tedious to counter.
deadacc39322 2 years ago
Well put.....point taken.
homeostasis4me 2 years ago
who is behind your brainwashing though?the ones who taught you the alphabates in the nursery school dont beleive in what you beleive
Gravespunishment 2 years ago
There is one crisis though.humans are still humans the shit is still inside of them no matter how much they keep vomitting out.They can have sand from the desert to make glass but they belly is still of full of dirt.Have some wisdom please!or call your grandad and tell him since when you were dropped as a rock from space.
Gravespunishment 2 years ago
Thanks for the vid.
skyzthelimi7 2 years ago
life sucks!!! the whole idea of the creation is silly
aywa12345 2 years ago
"How do we know evolution is a fact ?" To begin with there is a scientific theory,which is uported by evidence, that models it.
tekhiun 2 years ago 2
i know that you are correct, but good luck convincing the loonie masses of the usa. they will continue to believe whatever their masters tell them to believe, despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary.
ho2cultcha 2 years ago 2
if your atheist your atheist. If your Christian then your Christian. People dont need to bother themselves with others religion.
tripp136 2 years ago
...except when other people's religion influences legislation that effects you directly.
And it is "you're." Your denotes possession.
FEChariot 2 years ago 2
atheism is not a religion
TheVotze 2 years ago 3
well, that depends, some creationists teach pseudoscience to others, which is a crime in my opinion. those people should be confronted on there religious beliefs.
sagemaster 2 years ago
It is the stupid religious people who create the myth that there is somehow something wrong with pleasure and recreational sex. This is false. Fear of human sexuality and expression is the worse form of sexual perversion. There is no good rape and bad rape, all rape is the same. There are no good victims and bad victims, all victims are the same. There is no good consensual sex and bad consensual sex. All consensual sex is the same. Any who say otherwise are telling a lie.
ViamundtheRake 2 years ago
"There is no good consensual sex and bad consensual sex. All consensual sex is the same. Any who say otherwise are telling a lie."
Clearly you've never met my ex-wife...
markthetruck 2 years ago
The US has been co opted by right wing religious wing nuts, dangerous warmongering profiteers more interested in money than life.
Keep your gods in your heart said Mom, I tire of priests with one hand in the collection plate, and the other up an alter boys pants. What we'd expect after century's of sifting the mentally ill for the voluntarily celebate running our churches? An abundance of child abusers and troubled homosexuals is what.
Cavemen shrinking from thunder.
Disgusting.
Yourdeadmeat69 2 years ago 2
Amonst the mugshots of mass murderers, why didn't they include Rachel Carson?
SteveWrathall 2 years ago
"Those people" don't care about evidence, unless it seems to confirm what ever preacher says.
gonyea12 2 years ago
Can't wait to buy this book! RD is awesome.
caveman73 2 years ago
LOL Empire Total War at 0:49
doofmann0 2 years ago
He is wrong about two things.
1. We CAN see evolution. (and we have)
2. And not EVERY thing is EXACTLY as we would expect if evolution were true. Some thing as complex as life doesn't follow just one theory.
NapalmXD 2 years ago
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xxi777 2 years ago
I just bought this book today and looking forward to reading it, everything this man has to say is worth listening to. I can't believe the amount of people in the U.S that don't believe in evolution its scary they really are stupid arrogant idiots
Greig1424 2 years ago 2
Questions for Greig1424; What is so "scary" if many do not believe in evolution? Many biologists admit that TOE doesn't change what they do. They would still be studying the very same things they are now without it.. And labeling those that disagree as "stupid arrogant idiots" hardly helps the cause. If there is a single binding principle in the New Atheist Movement, it is cleary hate. Where does this hate come from? I can't believe you where ALL molested by priest.
searchbrowsesleep 2 years ago
First thing children who were molested off priests usually go on to become heroin addicts not atheists. It strikes me as very ironic that without religion there would be no priests therefore no world wide peadophile ring hiding behind a man made entity called God. Also there is no hate in atheism only a view that all life is beautiful and that people are all equal. It would seem to me that the binding principle of religion is hate, fear, embarrasment and guilt.
Greig1424 2 years ago 6
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have fun in hell y'all freethinkers!
YankeeSpike 2 years ago
I Do Not believe in a god or gods.
But to say morals are wrong? Woah... That is some funky juice you are drinking.
Obviously I have not read the first book advertised, and it might just be a language translation problem. But to state we would be better without morals - can someone please explain what that means?
O2BSoLucky 2 years ago
I hate living in a time when people still have to be "convinced" of something that's entirely academically factual.
DarkMatter2525 2 years ago 20
@DarkMatter2525 remember the fear of death makes fictional teachings more palatable to the ignorant masses
zakor33 1 year ago
Really nice video quality. Such a rarity on youtube.
Eastmanarium 2 years ago 3
i am buying this book tomorrow
niemans3 2 years ago
Blue footed booby! Yay!
zombievsrobot 2 years ago
II'm buying that book right away..
By the way take a look what's going on I'm my country Costa Rica right now:
San Jose (Editor). 16 representatives of various fractions expressed this afternoon his strong opposition to constitutional reform submitted last week to remove the word "God" of the constitutional oath.
I just have something to say:
lol
Humanity is evolving =)
yakraiv 2 years ago
Maybe the letters to Corinth put it best: "When I was a child, I spoke like a child, thought like a child, and reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I gave up my childish ways."
It would be a fantastic irony if those two sentences from the bible were adopted by folks who believe in the divinity of the bible.
andymcgaha 2 years ago
I wish Dawkins would move to the U.S.
RickysaurusNY 2 years ago
I think all scientists and educated humans alike must agree that all of us are capable of both great good AND great evil.
I think that God Or Satan or any other divine or unholy entity is merely a manifestation of a human persons consciousness and imagination of a vauge idea on what Good or Evil may or may not represent and or look like.
We base these entities on human desire for greater good or greater evil. Real? Fallacy? Who knows? But religion should never rule predominant thought.
JonasBrosMustDie 2 years ago
At last the thinkers are speaking out loud and it is muffling the morons of superstitition. Time to put away such childish things. Keep the rationale alive and humanbeings may survive past this century.
factvfiction 2 years ago 4
Good video. Hopefully overturning superstition and religion will help us understand that the only label we need is "human being".
leland61 2 years ago 3
Amen. ;)
ColonelCosmic 2 years ago
only a moron would disbelieve evolution
naybobdenod 2 years ago 2
wow ofcourse there is evolution, but that doesnt affect anyhow the existance of good and evil, and one had to be very shallow minded to deny god through evolution... and i'm not thinking of the old wise man sitting in the clouds...
Dzidson 2 years ago
Faith
2 a (1) : belief and trust in and loyalty to God (2) : belief in the traditional doctrines of a religion b (1) : firm belief in something for which there is no proof (2) : complete trust
They're practically synonyms.
DasMustafah 2 years ago 2
"Good" and "evil" do not exist as absolutes.
DasMustafah 2 years ago 2
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How is Faith wrongly labelled as "Superstition" by Richard Nobfuckingcake?
How is he allowed to do this?
far0cry101 2 years ago
Superstition
1 a : a belief or practice resulting from ignorance, fear of the unknown, trust in magic or chance, or a false conception of causation b : an irrational abject attitude of mind toward the supernatural, nature, or God resulting from superstition
2 : a notion maintained despite evidence to the contrary
DasMustafah 2 years ago 3
Well, other than him being exactly right, there is a little thing called the freedom of speech.
JonO387 2 years ago
Can you get an English translation of that book?
Animavore 2 years ago
It's nice to watch a reasonable video!!! I sooo sick of coming across religious ones claiming that God healed this person or that!!! This is soooo refreshing!!
99minerkc 2 years ago
michael schmidt-salomon has written a new book?! Why haven't I heard of it?! Yeah, it's about Nietzsche, right?! Running to the bookstore - that's the fist thing I'm gonna do tomorrow morning!
HubertCumberdale22 2 years ago
I like to argue with Christians on their own playing ground. The ten commandments clearly state that "You shall have no other gods before me" and yet everyone worships Jesus. They also say "no idols" yet Christians use the crucifix and many Christians are sure they know what Jesus looked like.
The overwhelming majority of the evidence in their own bible clearly describes the Antichrist as Jesus himself. Horus was the real Messiah and Jesus was actually Satan pretending to be the messiah. lol
WHollabaugh 2 years ago
Jenseits von Gut und Bose? Hey, that's the subtitle for Xenosaga 2!
Raveheart90 2 years ago
I don´t think we are better without morals. The problem is not the moral per se, but what kind of moral there is. I think there are positive kinds of morals. The new atheism is running a blind crusade against religions. It´s a pay back. As atheists we shouldn´t imitate religion´s bigotry. We shouldn´t imitate anything at all.
monodemetalazul 2 years ago
1/2 of the USA is stupid. lol
cpynch 2 years ago
Atheism isn't about rejecting morals or claiming we don't have them it explains how we got them and why you can derive them on your own without the need for a sky-daddy.
Evolution explains why we are social creatures and why we have empathy but mostly just with people we see and know.
dlandon2000 2 years ago
Schmidt-Salomon is probably the best critique of religion and stupidity in general Germany has to offer at the moment. If you can, get your hands on his "Manifest of evolutionary Humanism", it's well worth reading.
DancingInChains 2 years ago
I dont think that "new atheist" is a fitting term. Afterall it's not only about religion or belief in gods. It's about promoting critical thinking and debuking false claims through logic,reason and evidence. I think something on the nuances of "active skeptic" would be a more appropriate term.
tekhiun 2 years ago 3
O the times they are a changin'
We must expect strong reaction to what we believe; atheism, humanism, truth - these are not welcomed by those who seek to unreasonably control their fellow human beings.
Freedom is never easily won; win, ultimately, we will - - - but it will cost us dear.
mabhekaphansi 2 years ago
I'm re-reading The Blind Watchmaker, but I need to go to the bookshop again!
As for morality and the way religious zealots whine about it:
"After Tao was lost, then came the 'power'; After the 'power' was lost, then came human kindness; After human kindness was lost, then came morality; After morality was lost, then came ritual. Now ritual is the mere husk of loyalty and promise-keeping."
TTC38, The Old Boy. Trans Arthur Whaley
Religious "morality" is a load of artificial nonsense.
BoneySkylord 2 years ago 2
Awesome screen name. Its funny seeing all the people with names like der8713ty. Boney Skylord, that is a keeper.
SkullVodka 2 years ago
This is our century, Atheists. Don't fuck it up. This is our chance to get ahead - and we are so far. It's the beginning of the end for religion if we keep going at this rate.
TheStig000 2 years ago 6
Paha you can't be serious TheStig000? Atheists are up against a whole world of superstition - the only place to really put a stop to religious indoctrination is by stopping it in the classroom and making it taboo to preach to your children - sadly it looks more and more unlikely.
But we shouldn't give up, you are right about that!
WillSKB88 2 years ago
We're one of the fastest growing minorities out there. We have to use this momentum to our advantage. Live it one day at a time.
TheStig000 2 years ago 2
Yes, I agree. It is our time and methinks critical thinkers will make this world a better plece. Imagion....
factvfiction 2 years ago 3
Agreeing with evolution doesn't mean one has to be an atheist. I know religious folks of various religions, who believe in evolution and are still believing in their god views too. My biology and genetics professor in college is such a person, for example.
So religious folks shouldn't be so threatened, as they can still believe in their god and evolution at same time. They just can't take biblical Genesis as a textbook. LOL!
MegF142857 2 years ago
40% of Americans don't "believe in" evolution. Wow. How can the richest nation on the planet also be amongst the most stupid? Where do they spend all their money? Obviously not on education!
shashintokyo 2 years ago 4
Well a large proportion voted for George Bush - says everything.
That and half of the idiots are opposing health reform when it will actually benefit the whole country.
WillSKB88 2 years ago
Greed and fantasy is the American time bomb
factvfiction 2 years ago
lol excellent quote
yakraiv 2 years ago
I wouldn't call America the richest nation in the world when we have a national dept in the trillions and owe if I am not mistaken china trillions of of dollars. lol The real edcuation is learning we are not a rich nation, but a nation built on debt.
moety2 2 years ago
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DEATH TO ALL BELIEVERS!
Vektruscen 2 years ago
When he say evolution, it sounds like he say "evilution".lol
AgnosticFTW 2 years ago
The English always pronounce evolution as eve-olution not ev-olution
TheStig000 2 years ago
i don't and I'm english actually i don't no any who does.
newmesee 2 years ago
Well, there's always little accents and stuff. I've heard a lot of people who pronounce it both ways. Americans tend to pronounce it "ev-olution" though.
TheStig000 2 years ago
well idd get Richard dawkins new book for sure!
C0ldking 2 years ago
There's something I've always wondered, and I think I can ask it here. Ok, so I think everyone here would agree that religion is simply a psychological coping mechanism. It's purpose is to give strength and hope to an individual to promote their survival. So then, if religion's purpose is to HELP, then why do some people have conflicting beliefs? For example, if one believes in the concept of heaven, why then would they also believe in some circumstance that bars them from ever entering it??
Russell218 2 years ago
its a popularty contest.for the church,its more money from whoever is reconverted.
TLSlayer 2 years ago
Here's the main example I wonder about. If one chooses to believe in heaven, then typically they'll believe that living a good/clean/honest life, filled with hard work and sacrifice, will ultimately be rewarded with entrance into a blissful, eternal afterlife. It's a belief that gives you hope and perseverance in order to get you through this hard life. However, some gays who believe in heaven ALSO choose to believe that being gay bars them from ever being allowed in!
Russell218 2 years ago
I mean honestly, why believe in something amazing like heaven, only to ALSO believe that you'll never be allowed in?? And furthermore, why believe in the concept of hell if you also believe you're going there? It makes no sense! That's not helping you or giving you hope, it's doing the exact opposite - stressing you out and demoralizing you.
Russell218 2 years ago
What a great mystery of the human mind. Dan Dennet postulates that the fear of death is also incorporated in this coping system. And still the moral unrest committed by religious advocates is surprisingly high. With such a stiff penalty one would think the believer would heed the religious warning. Yet most (not all) followers "cherry pick" the parts of religious dogma's in which they participate. Basically religion is a repressive system of humanity.