Before the Beginning The Fall of Lucifer Fallen Series #1

[najash21989]

Satan was not a cherubin h was a seraphin wasn't he the highest of all angels and seraphims are the highest from all the chores

[najash21989]

satan is here to kil esteal and deceive but Jesus was sent to give us life ,truth and resurrection

[benzini999]

RESPECT FROM A MUSLIM BROTHER

[KarensFaith]

@AzrRielev89 - Conservative Jews are wrong.

[sergiorambolt]

lucifer an alien general

[STRIVERAJJ]

What really are you or we all striving for in this  realm or earthly life? Striverajj

[Apink420]

Ok, this is a very interesting question and i would love it if people replied would u rather live in paradise such as Heaven/garden of Eden where there are no bad ppl or problems and just pure happiness or would u rather live on Earth where there is a lot of happiness but u still need 2 deal with the everyday problems and bad ppl such as the life we live now plz reply thanks!!!

[yasarmichelle]

AsSalaam Alaikom Karen. Please seeing that you have quoted Mohammed pbuh you should at least read the Holy Quran.

[MustardSeedish]

This is good, yet eerie and educational. I love the quote you included from CS Lewis. I often thought Satan was the opposite of God, but I've given him way too much credit.

[SAUNDERSacts2618]

Great vid a must watch

[BrightStaroftheDawn]

Great Writings.

Almost as good as Shakespeare.

[KarensFaith]

Awesome! :0)

[ihmen]

why did god create lucifer in the first place if god already knew beforehand that lucifer would rebel against him.

[KarensFaith]

See answer below. :)

[ihmen]

but why would satan and 1/3 of the angels even try to rebel against god if they knew god already knew what they were going to do. they couldnt have had any element of suprise, which is the most important thing to have in any war. and the also knew god was all powerful which means he cant be defeated, so why would they even try to do that. it seems satan was pretty stupid if he thought he had a chance of winning.

[KarensFaith]

Because of their pride. And just because God knew what they were going to do does not mean that they knew what they would eventually do. Satan wanted God's throne and in his pride he thought he could attain it. He was wrong. The fallen angels followed Satan out of their own pride as well. Why they thought they could defeat God Almighty is something I don't know, but there are many times we humans think we can do something even though we know deep down inside that we can't, but we still try.

[ihmen]

since god can do anything i dont see why there had to be a war. the war must have only lasted a few seconds because god could just instantly zap everyone down to hell before they shot thier bows or lazer guns or whatever they fought with. that just leaves one more question my friend asked me but i still cant answer it

could god create a rock so large that not even he himself could lift it?

[KarensFaith]

God doesn't zap anyone. He is God and His ways are not our ways nor are His thoughts our thoughts. There is a reason for everything He does and how He does it. We cannot comprehend the mind of God. We cannot see the things He sees or know the things He knows. He is God and we are not and we are not to question God because we are HIS creation. He can do anything He wants and we all deserve hell. He made a way for us and He did it out of His mercy and grace and His love.

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[KarensFaith]

Could God create a rock so large that not even He Himself could lift it? No! There is nothing that God cannot do.

"For with God nothing shall be impossible." ~Luke 1:37 (KJV)

[ihmen]

so he couldnt make a rock too big for himself to lift? but then thats saying he couldnt do something... but if you say he can do it, then you're saying he cant lift it. see its the paradox of omnipotence

[KarensFaith]

That's ridiculous and you're grasping at straws. There is nothing that is impossible for God.

[shamwowftl]

@ihmen Are you trying to apply logic to God's power?From what I've been told we can't really even begin to understand it fully.I don't see why I'd bother

[ihmen]

i dont get why god would create lucifer in the first place. because since god is all knowing wouldnt god already know beforehand that lucifer was going to rebel against him? and since god is all powerful why would lucifer even rebel in the first place if he knows that theres no way he could win and that god was knowing he was thinking of rebeling.

[KarensFaith]

Yes, God knew beforehand what Satan would eventually do. He even knew that we would fall. His plan was in place for our redemption (in Christ) before the beginning of everything. Why did He create us as well? We don't see the things God sees the way God sees them. It is not for us to know some things now. But what God did He did out of His infinite wisdom and grace and even though we don't see it now, we will someday and God's glory will be revealed in all of it.

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[KarensFaith]

"For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known." ~1 Corinthians 13:12 (KJV)

[KarensFaith]

Ummm....we already know this and we do pray, we are Christians who have received Jesus Christ as Savior and Lord. :0)

[mykidsdad36]

Continued - The scripture states in (Matthew 22:30) That angels are sexless and genderless, therefore it was not possible for them in Gensis 6 to have had relations with the daughters of men. So what path are you taking, and what are your general views on this topic.If you'd rather PM me the answer (Since you are putting a video out, about this topic) and may not wish to give away the content of that video, before it post.God Bless You, ~ Lee

[KarensFaith]

The videos about them are already up. :) But I have more coming so I will just PM you. It's kind of long. :0)

[mykidsdad36]

You don't have to type all that stuff out, since it's so long, I'll watch your video (Which I thought I had already, but I can't remember it's content) and I can wait until your next video's out, it's not a problem :)

I don't want to cause you any extra work, trust me I know how hard all that typing can be, I just had to send a guy 4 full pages of answers and my fingers are numb -LOL

But you can still just PM me a brief idea of your thoughts, BTW - it's good to see you *new icon photo* :)

[KarensFaith]

Too late. I done did! LOL!!! You don't have to read it though, it is long.

My picture in my icon...LOL!!! Don't look at it, you'll go blind! ROFLOL!!! I used to have it up but had to take it down for awhile because of some of the witches and satanists threatening me. They've stopped that now. I hope!

[KarensFaith]

But thank you. :)

[MultiArchangel]

@mykidsdad36

It says in Matthew 22:30 that they do not marry. But it does not say that they cannot. There is a difference between not being able to do something, and not doing something.

Jude 1:6-

"And the angels who did not keep their proper domain, but left their own abode, He has reserved in everlasting chains under darkness for the judgment of the great day;"

Those would be the fallen angels that rebelled with Satan and left their abode.

[mykidsdad36]

MultiArchangel - Out of respect for Karen's comment section, I will answer your reply through PM's to you at your channel, if you will allow me to do so.

Thanks for your time and comment,

God Bless You,

~Lee

[MultiArchangel]

You do not have to. You can just answer here. I do not think she will mind.

[mykidsdad36]

I'm sorry, but beore I saw your reply, I sent you a message. Also it's much to lengthy to post here, thats why I prefer to send it PM, I know Karen doesn't mind me posting anything on any of her video's, but I still act out of respect, myself because the reply is very lengthy and shows three different views on this subject,but if you do not wish for me to PM you, then I will not do so again. But the first already has been posted, I'm sorry. ~Lee

[mykidsdad36]

MultiArchangel - like I told karen in a PM, I do not personally have a dogmatic point of view on this Topic, However there are certain questions, that this view we are discussing, brings up. It is those concerns that I would like to address, in order to better determine a positive outcome, for settling on certain position on this topic. Some of those concerns I've just stated, others I will share after these are satisfied, to many at one time, will just confuse all parties.God Bless, ~Lee

[mykidsdad36]

Just to answer this reply in short form, What you say about Matthew 22:30 . Now while it doesn't say they cannot marry, it doesn't say they can either, and the implication of the passage, actually is teaching that angels in Heaven do not marry. But also according to other scriptures, angles are created being that do not reproduce, with set numbers unlike human who continue to multiply. Also if an angel did produce offspring then they would be immortal, because the blood ( Gene's) pass - Continue

[mykidsdad36]

Continued - the blood passes from the father to the children (Sons of God) It's against bible doctrines for anyone to not die, as the scriptures teach, that in Adam all die (.Icor.15:22)And it's appointed unto man, once to die (Heb. 9:27) When a theory starts to contradict other plain bible doctrines, then I know the theory is incorrect. It's one way we discern teachings in the Bible. Also the verse Jude 1:6 you stated simply means they left their first state of obedience to God, and were judged

[mykidsdad36]

I studied them several years ago, and found two main train of thoughts. Obviously in (Gensis 6:4) we have the word "giants", which in the original Hebrew is "nĕphiyl" where we get the word Nephilim. It's also found in (Numbers 13:3) Where they are known as the son of Anak. Some feel that the Nephilim are fallen angels, but those that contest that train of thought, state that it cannot be fallen angels because: Continue -

[mykidsdad36]

Continued - Once again, his half truths are deceitful - he does add enough truth to interest the curious, but his poisonous lie's, are added in the mix, to bring death (Spiritually speaking) One of my favorite verses is Rev.20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

I've read the Book, and I know the end of the story, we win (In Christ) and he looses!

[KarensFaith]

AMEN! You are absolutely right about all of this. I love that verse too.

Have you studied the Nephilim? That's where this video series is going. Nasty bunch, those Nephlim. I ordered a couple more books this past week about this. I can't wait for them to come in. I am a such a geek! LOL!!!

[mykidsdad36]

Hi Karen, Satan Has from the very beginning tried to cast doubt and confuse man about God's Word. He started by asking Eve, "Yea, hath God said?" Putting doubt into the mind of Eve, whether or not she should believe God's word, or if it was even accurate. Then he began to cast doubt about his character, when he said, "Gen.3:5 "....then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil" Continue -

[KarensFaith]

The video is teaching about Satan and what it says about him in the Bible, why he fell. It's showing how evil he is, why he was cast out of heaven and what his sin was.

I pray to Jesus everyday. We have to know why Satan fell and what he does so that we can arm ourselves against him. This video was to show that.

[KarensFaith]

The music is not really music but recorded sounds from space by NASA. In space, each planet and space itself does give off sounds which do sound musical. It's not really music from humans but from space itself.

[EbolaV1rus]

You know, you comment about Satan appearing as an angel of light to Mohamed makes a lot of sense to me.

When the angel of the Lord was speaking to Hagar about the son she was going to have (Ishmael) he said:

Genesis 16:12

He will be a wild donkey of a man; his hand will be against everyone and everyone's hand against him, and he will live in hostility toward all his brothers

And this was LONG before Mohamed had even been born. So what the angel said is like a prophecy.

[reyldeguz]

you see, there is no plan of salvation for angels. The fallen angels are confirmed in their wickedness in such a way that they are irretrievably lost. Think of the life they had, they had been in heaven, They had dwelt in the presence of God, and yet they knowingly rebelled against God. That represents a magnitude of evil that's difficult for mere mortals to comprehend.

[KarensFaith]

I know that there is no salvation for the fallen angels. Their fate is sealed. Hell was made for them. I cannot imagine why they would rebel as they did. They were in the presence of Almighty God! It just baffles me. The evil that they do is so totally corrupt and Satan tries to mirror God in every way - he perverts everything good that God has given us. It is difficult to comprehend, yes. They are truly evil, more than we can ever imagine. Thank you for your comments. I appreciate them so much!

[reyldeguz]

Did you know the angels find the plans of salvation intriguing?The Bible says, they're curious about it. 1Peter 1; 12 which things the angels desire to look into.

[KarensFaith]

Yes, I know. :) Thank you! God bless!

[reyldeguz]

1PETER 1;12

[SAUNDERSacts2618]

Good stuff i want to rate all you're vids 5 stars

[MultiArchangel]

Hey Karen. Do you know of an exact verse in the bible that tells us that Satan and Lucifer are one in the same? I have never seen one.

[KarensFaith]

Isaiah 14:12 "How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!" (KJV)

Satan was cast out of heaven. This refers to him.

[InHISWord2]

Excellent presentation thus far! Thank you. please explain what you say in this vid...Lucifer: the "morning star"? May I ask what translation of the Bible you are using?...Jesus is the bright and "morning star"...see KJV Rev 22:16

Lucifer is the 'son of the morning'... see KJV Isaiah 14:12

It is just confusing to me...I don't mean to nitpick...please forgive me if you are offended by my questions. God Bless you and 5*s!

[KarensFaith]

No offense taken. I used the NASB. But I see your confusen. It confuses me too because I know that Jesus is the morning star. So perhaps you are correct, Lucifer is the 'son of the morning' and I worded it wrong. Thank you for pointing that out and if anyone else can explain it, I'd appreciate it because that has confused me also. God bless! And thank you for the compliment. :)

[KarensFaith]

I made a typo--confusen is confusion! How on earth did I make that typo?! LOL!!! Sorry for the CONFUSION. :)

[KarensFaith]

Oh! And P.S. -- you aren't nitpicking. :) It's a valid and very good question and I'm glad you brought it up. Thanks again! :)

[InHISWord2]

Thanks Karen, I hope another brother or sister can clarify this for the both of us! LORD willing our answer is forthcoming!

[vghopkins]

Welcome back!

[KarensFaith]

Thank you!

[MultiArchangel]

Thank God! The Fallen series is back! Just where it needs to be! Good work Karen.

[KarensFaith]

Thank you! It'll take me a few days, but I'll get them all back up...and then on to new ones! :) I am enjoying your Nephilim videos very much! Can't wait for the next one!

[mikey1701]

God bless you Sister ! Great information, we all need to be sharp and on guard because satan is looking for any chink in our armor.

[KarensFaith]

Thank you and AMEN! :) God bless you!