Love or Money

[molewizard]

The problem comes with lettign go of self-awareness.

Then, you can become the bearded hippy and be laughed at by the majority of people, completely ignorant of it.

And you'll rais kids that do that too.

And they'll get laughed at, but be ignorant of it.

god dammit, I understand materiality being a source for unhappiness, but what's better is not abolishing it - It's coming to terms with and understanding it...

[molewizard]

Jesus Christ, sorry for the bad spelling. You get the idea though.

[LiviuXSA]

this guy looks like the weather wizard from little big adventure 2

reply if you agree

old bearded quetch

[crimthann86]

can I buy a fishing canoe before I stop shopping? ok.. i need an electric motor too.. but then I will stop shopping.. umm no I need the fish finder.. then finally I will stop shopping.... money can't buy you love.. but it can get you some cool fishing stuff..

[LarkaSojourn]

I have 2K in heirloom seeds I've collected over the years and Monsanto wishes to make what I own illegal ~ Even for my own personal use! This is all thanks to Henry Kissinger notion that " if you control the means of food production you can control the populations of the world" What rock did we ever find that piece of work under I have to ask myself...

[jayjayfroggy]

As you send this, I've been working on my next video, when I ask, *are Monsanto and their lobbiests still running the show in Washington?* Truly I hope that day is ending, and those of us turning more and more towards small scale organic food will triumph!

[SOLISDEUS]

Yes sir. Capitalism is the new one world religion the prophets warned us to eschew. Jesus was at the top of the list. Charging into the temple to chase out the money changers, usurers. The buyers and sellers. I guess, we as a life form do not listen very well to our prophets and teachers. Unless they are offering something at 50% off retail value. Peace.

[thefakeyeti]

I started to watch what would jesus by, at 52 minutes now (letting it load some more)

And I moment of realization and I know other ppl probably will think DUR when they read this.

I was thinking,people need to spend money in order to stimulate the economy, so others can have a wage..

HOWEVER when I buy something, how much of my money really goes to the worker?

THAT is where you tlk about wantin more things centralized, so we can directly pay the worker, and not make the rich richer.

[thefakeyeti]

and I had a moment of realization*

Though. tbh sweatshops and child labor in other countries haven't bothered me too much, because the alternative could be prostitution and things much worse then the sweatshops

[jayjayfroggy]

My thought is that the alternative is going back to the farm. At least in China that appears to be the case, as was brought up in discussions about *Slumdog Millionare* Apparently there is no urban slums in China, because the central government sends the unemployed back to farming villages they came from. Someday I hope to see new and more efficient organic farming techniques spread everywhere, replacing the factory farms that dominate here in USA

[mcufre]

What about giving people land to cultivate and let every man work for their own sustainance?, letting go of all the stupid materialistic crap they make us think we need and concentrating on the basic needs for survival and family life and values. Then mix that with a bit of free tech energy wizardy we could all probably develop if we actually tried harder, and what you get?, TRUE FREEDOM AND LIFE. What someone inteligently told me is that this doesn´t happen because people LIKE TO BUY CRAP.

[jayjayfroggy]

I think setting people up on small scale homesteads is a great idea. I'll bring this up in my next video.

[liamgyu]

yes but if that was the case we wold have to spread farm labour further,rather than the 2% of people who can feed us all.

if we lost those we would lose free time?

[liamgyu]

ps:free time equals civilisation.

[jayjayfroggy]

compassion for others is the real mark of civilization. And support and appreciation of the arts

[liamgyu]

the arts only come from free time,if you have to dig the irrigation before the rains come,you dont have time for post impressionisim.

van gough had to go nuts to find hours in the day.

also if the world is dog eat dog you dont have time for compassion,twenty years ago they were queing for bread in moscow.civilisation is a fragile dream. supported by teqnology.

[jayjayfroggy]

I think you are, like most ego-centric Americans, ignoring the fact that our technology manufacturing today is destroying the free time of third world peoples that are working horrible jobs 16 hrs a day. My own best thoughts come from a combination of long walks, and working in the garden. Farming can be leisurely, and hightly creative work. There needs to be a balance, and a huge population working insane hours on high-tech assembly lines is WAY out of balance!

[jayjayfroggy]

(con't) Food grown at a distance, stale by the time it's shipped and packaged, is WAY out of balance. Technologies that pollute the very air we breathe and the food we eat is WAY out of balance. Oh well, I can see I need to get to work on my next video, expanding on these subjects.

[liamgyu]

sorry my colonial cousin,i said we but i ment 1st world countries.you i think talk of whay should be and i talk about what has to be.

we need this technology to perscribe to the masses in our own country.

150 years ago we were in work houses,we never want to go back to that.if other nations have to go through that teething process so be it,why squander the work of my forbearers,going back to the magna carter,we have earned these antibiotics.and for good or bad we have tried to share.

[jayjayfroggy]

I believe that far far more than 2% should be working at farming, and that vegetable gardening is very rewarding and healing time spent. Also, the food from the 2% farmers we have now is really lousy, stale quality food that is ruining the health of our country.

[jayjayfroggy]

Pat Condell also favorited my *Why I hate the Bailouts* video, which is a good part of the reason it got as many hits as it did :)

[tsugua27]

jayjayfroggy. Do you realize this video was favorited by Pat Condell? He is famous. Richard Dawkins is a fan of Pat Condell. Just thought you might like to hear that.

[jayjayfroggy]

Pat Condell and my son Kevin, both being Muslim trashing atheists, became friendly enough to talk occassionally. Obviously my son, if you knew his, now closed, channel, talked a much raunchier trash-talking than Pat's relatively calm style. Anyways, that's how Pat Condell came to watch my own rants.

[thefakeyeti]

Tbh, I almost forgot capn is your son..

I sat there for a second thinking "Who the hell is kevin!?"

[AnAngryOgre]

" I don't care too much for money, money can't buy me love "

[jayjayfroggy]

Its another advantage of eating organic fruits.......you just might get a few bugs to chump down on along with the fruit! I really don't know where American ultra-sanitary standards came from, Maybe its a product of chemical companies TV ads.

[thefakeyeti]

I have thought about trying entomophagy(eating of insects, not sure if I spelt it right)

Though I wan't to try it out because I am curious to what it tastes like,apparently insects have better nutrients in them then traditional meats and I have thought it would be neat to raise my own food (chickens, cows etc aren't realistic)

But This may also help pollution, and other secondary things.. cruelity to animals may be one (thoough arguably, that is a double standard)

[thefakeyeti]

About the eggs..

Purhaps that is part of the reason why we are sickly people..

We demand everything to be too clean, therefore our immune systems are shocked whenever a :small" disease happens to us.

And the constant cleaning, is causing natural selection to occur, making stronger bacteria

[thefakeyeti]

I'm not sure I could take a preacher seriously... I would assume it is because his bible tells him so, not because of a logical conclusion he came to, I cannot take "because the bible says so" seriously, .

Though I don't shop very much, because I worship money... :P I like seeing a big sum of money in my bank account, vs. I bunch of worthless items.(though I am saving up for col.

---------- mall parking lot= private property, so of course there is no freedom of speech there!

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[jayjayfroggy]

Well, Rev. Billy is much more of a comedy act than a serious preacher. And you're the second person to point out that of course there is no freedom of speech on the private property of malls. But isn't it a terrible shame that small towns now have no viable town squares where people congregate, but rather the shopping has moved to malls? I see that corporate takeover a what really should be public property as a serious erosion not only of freedom of speech, but of our very way of life.

[thefakeyeti]

Well, at least now we have the internet..

I would never of heard of /from you, if it weren't for the internet.

Though this is less agressive and not as hands on.

So you do have a point, I am not sure who upkeeps the parking lots.

Purhaps, we can make deals with shopping malls, that pretty much state that we will do the upkeep, but it will become PUBLIC property?

I am sure some places would latch unto that...

[jayjayfroggy]

Yeah to the internet! Town taking over Mall parking lots and walkways sounds like a great idea to me. Also, and this is happening in many places, a real civic effort to revitalize downtowns. Also, and I believe this will happen, as smaller scale farms, likely organic or at least partly organic, come more and more common, small towns will return. Another advantage of the internet ~ quite a few people can *cyber-commute* doing their jobs over the internet, and live out in small towns.

[Paxadzor]

lol. i love the face you make when you say the word MONEY! you should say it 100 times on all your videos lol :D

[qanazir]

I agree the the money(and thus the power) should be decentralised.

However we must remember that some things are a lot more efficient to make in large scale production,

[jayjayfroggy]

I agree that there are things that it makes sense to make with mass production. However, taking into consideration the shipping, I think its probably a lot less items than most would realize. And I don't think there is any food item that benefits from mass production.

[hazelweatherfield]

Thank you so much for this vid! Really smart video, made me understand many things

[isreasontaboo]

You're not going to re-launch the economy by asking people to consume less.

[hazelweatherfield]

Maybe what jayjay is trying to say is that our society makes us think buying itself is important, and people are buying lots of things they don't need. I don't think one could live a decent life without ever buying (unless he lives in an amish community), but u can live very well, buying only the things one really needs and don't spend foolishly

[isreasontaboo]

But the beauty of capitalism is that in fact, the more we spend on "futile" things, the more new markets get created, the more wealth is generated, and ultimately the more higher paying jobs will be created, allowing for more "futile" spending. It would be sad to have a socialist country with only strict necessities to choose from, as the communist fallacy proved. Even basic commodity shops had empty shelves!

[hazelweatherfield]

yes, that would be wrong, but don't u agree that both are extremes, both communism, where the shelves where empty or the capitalism, where people are only worth the value of their bank account, or of the goods they own? Don't you think middle way is the best?

[isreasontaboo]

It is not possible to have a middle. Granted, there is ONE caveat with capitalism, that growth IS a requirement. Look at it like a domino-effect (which we actually only understand better when a recession sets in!) However, I disagree that Earth has a limited carrying capacity. Currently oil is the limit. But once alternative energy will be common place and technology improved we could continue growth for a long time. Land would become the real limit.

[isreasontaboo]

The credit crisis wasn't really a product of capitalism itself. It was the result of a hijack of its normal functioning. A HUGE quantity of VIRTUAL WEALTH has been created artificially with those excessive derivates of derivates of derivates of securities and re-packaging of CDO's to dilute (read: shift somewhere else) risks with the belief that house prices couldn't fall so lending to insolvent people was believed not to be a problem... This whole house of cards is now unwinding

[hazelweatherfield]

ok,...the issue is not the credit crisis, although that is real too, the issue is the planet being fucked up, because people consume more and more, and population grows more and more, and in the end that will affect all of us. And USA is the no.1 polluter in the world, thx to the idea that they have to consume more and more, and that money is the purpose of life. The technology already exists, but all the cars companies will remain with their products unsold if they introduce it now

[isreasontaboo]

So you mean we should go back to the stone age because the planet is being fucked up? The false dychotomy is to always oppose chemistry vs nature. The entire planet, including living things i.e. animals or ourselves and inanimate stuff like computers, cars, stones, trees, animals or ourselves are made of elements. Everything is made out of one or more of the same 92 atoms on the periodic table. These never get created or destroyed in the process. They can be recycled endlessly.

[hazelweatherfield]

Many people think like this, but it is a ill way of thinking and acting-man is king over nature-We are part of nature, a part of the whole organism. If we act against it we are the cancer...If nature dies, we die, but i doubt Earth will suffer too much, it will just get rid of us, and recover itself. Not go back to stone age, but live in a way that wont accept nature, especially when this is possible...

[hazelweatherfield]

sorry, i meant, wont affect* nature

[darthdidious]

Well, a Mall is private property, so there's no issue of free speech here. If owners decide that someone is creating a disturbance they have every right to have him taken off their property. Its not censorship.

I'm no fan of consumer culture. I'm largely aloof from it, though not entirely. I'd assume that most people are like me. People don't "worship money" by any stretch of the imagination.

[jayjayfroggy]

I just noticed, looking at my NetFlix Queue, that *What Would Jesus Buy* is one of those films on NetFlix that can be streamed online! So, NetFlix subscribers.......go watch it NOW!

[SSanf]

Good video.

[hellobettsy]

I am an extreme capitalist and I strongly feel that money is what makes our society function.

that being said I love that movie and I agree with 99% of what he has to say.

[jayjayfroggy]

There's a bunch of YouTube Videos on Rev. Billy on YouTube, including TV interviews. Check the links in my info for this vid, or start at

watch?v=HzSKpfeNN-8

[CousinoMacul]

I saw an interview with that guy (it might have been on a show like 60 minutes or 20/20) back when that movie was in production. It sounded really fascinating!

[TiradeFaction]

To be fair, someone screaming with a bullhorn in a mall is a public disturbance, and is just annoying.

[jayjayfroggy]

He can go in with his *Gospel Choir of the Church of Stop Shopping* and do nothing but sing, and the result will be the same. He can go in with comedy, like he did at Starbucks, doing exorcisms of the cashregisters.......and now he is banned from entering any Starbucks in USA. I tell ya, ya gotta see this movie!

[TiradeFaction]

Again, that's pretty disruptive, and what do you expect with a guy with a bullhorn? We don't take them seriously when they're preachers of the "smell the brimstone" variety.

Still, this documentary sounds interesting, so I'll watch it :).

[jayjayfroggy]

Its streamable on NetFlix. Common back and comment after watching!

[Mrgyn]

Another good video.

Dhan Waheguru. (Praise God)

Jai Baba.

[AgentGhost]

I love money.

[Eddyman2]

I 100% agree with you on this, and I'm adding that film to my Netflix. The egg disconnect is particularly striking, given how we built this country on small business.

[jayjayfroggy]

Exactly, and the truly small business has been put out of business by the large corporations. I can see that I'll be vlogging on this subject repeatedly. We need much bigger change in this country than the small tweaks to our economy that we're getting now.

[chicago85bearz]

Yeah if you have ever watched Family Guy, The Simpsons, King of the Hill they all have episodes on it.

[jayjayfroggy]

I'm glad to hear that.....but, since I very rarely watch TV, I've missed out. You're talking episodes on Rev. Billy and the Stop Shopping Chruch?

[chicago85bearz]

No no, Walmart and big business basically destroying small businesses. Meant to reply to Eddyman lol.

[jayjayfroggy]

ah so. And I should have said *Walmart and other *big box* stores along with the Mall, when i said in the vid, *this is the biggest place(s) where people gather.* I think the two WalMarts, one at each end of the town where I live, draw more people than the whole Mall. *Low Prices* is hard to compete with.

[chicago85bearz]

Yeah people buy plastic cheaply made pieces of crap then cant figure out why gas prices are so high.

[numbcore]

hmm how does that work?

[jayjayfroggy]

Plastics are made from oil. They have to be shipped, likely all the way from china. Then when they break, they are shipped to the landfill, and a replacement, also made from oil, is made, shipped and reshipped...........repackaged­.......the packaging shipped to the landfill, endlessly repeated with the short life cycle of a cheaply made item.

[numbcore]

Ohh right oil yes, I thought of that too but I got confused with the word gas. In Dutch gas means the same as in English, but as in like solid, liquid, gas. So I thought he meant gas as in lpg lol, hope you get what im saying :P

[jayjayfroggy]

chicago85bearz comments to my profile comments (but I assume he meant to put here).....Plastic made from oil, oil is in higher demand oil prices go up. Drive to Walmart in your Suburban and buy more plastic then complain about oil prices. Basically.

[sirgir101]

money u old fucker.

[Anastasius37]

exactly, can love by me a gun and a hose? no...

[isreasontaboo]

Money can buy love :-)

[jayjayfroggy]

watch?v=2LoYM5OWIqI

[thefakeyeti]

And love can get me money..

Wan't to hook up :-)

[jayjayfroggy]

Real love might just make you forget money. Perhaps my fav expression remembered from my hippie days.......*Love will find a way*. Also...when trying to squeeze one more person onto a car or a living space......*Where there is a enough love, there's enough room*.

[jayjayfroggy]

Are you confusing love with sex?