The Americans don't want to pay taxes for free healthcare, they prefer give money to private companies which will fuck them in the ass at the first occasion (who is stupid enought to trust a private insurance company???)
It just shows how stupid the Americans are (and also so selfish).
The Europeans/Can/Aus/NZ/Japs prefer pay a bit more taxes to be sure that they will be totally covered (no private insurances to fuck you, no need to pay 100.000$ for your care, everybody get healthcare).
I won't buy health insurance, I won't use doctors & if I need to I'll pay cash. I eat healthy and exercise. I know people who died from cancer and one who made himself well through nutrition against his doctors recommendation. No to ObamaCare. Our corrupt government will start forcing people to buy all kinds of crap. Next will be mandatory vaccinations against a fake diseases.
People like to argue that paying car insurance is not force. It is a force. If you don't pay car insurance and you drive, you can get fine up to $1,000 and/or jail time.
@csbob2010 People ARE FORCE to pay car insurance if they drive. However you look at it, people are FORCE to buy car insurance if they drive. What part of the force you don't get it? Did you graduate from high school ... you fail logic ... logic does not fail you because you are too dumb to recognize the logic.
RON PAUL IS GOING TO BE PROSECUTED BY UNITED STATES OF AMERICA! ITS UNCONSTITUTIONAL TO CALL AMERICAN PEOPLE INVADERS AND INITIATERS OF WARS.
RON PAUL SAID THE USA INVADES COUNTRIES AND STARTS WARS, WHICH GIVES USA A BAD REPUTATION AROUND THE WORLD , THEREFORE IT IS CONSIDERED A CRIME . A US CITIZEN WHO
WAS BORN IN USA CANT GO AGAINST GOVERNMENT POLICIES WHICH MIGHT TREATEN THE FUTURE
Car insurance argument is total bullshit. No one forces you to drive. The insurance requirement is to protect others from you. So you are required to at least cover other persons expenses, whether you pay for your own is your own problem. Health insurance should also be YOUR OWN PROBLEM, not everyone Else's.
@csbob2010 People ARE FORCE to buy car insurance. It's the same logic and principle, essentially people are forced to buy something they don't need. I don't need car insurance, I just need the car. If you want to get car insurance, you go ahead and do it but DON'T FORCE me to get it when I don't need it.
@crazieeez Are you slow? If you drive you need to get insurance because it guarantees when YOU hit SOMEONE ELSE, the other persons expenses are paid for. That is why the minimum collision is going to cover the other persons expenses and not your own. And no people are not forced to buy care insurance because if you don't drive you don't pay it. Now if you want to drive, then you are forced to get car insurance for other people on the road NOT YOU. How are you not getting this?
@6:35 I dunno if he implies that there's no private health insurance in Canada but that is quite false. There's many things that the Universal Healtcare Program doesn't pay for in Canada and people get private insurance if they want more than the bare minimum.
the car insurance argument is bullshit.. insurance on a car is to protect you from other people in case you do damage. If i get sick I am not hurting anyone.. unless by thenyou want to argue that im hurting others because im putting the tax burden on others.. If this is the case then your argument that others without insurance cannot get cared is a flaw and a lie. So which is it democrats?
Right. Everybody knows that the USA is the ONLY free and democratic nation in the world.
Canadians, Japs, Europeans, Australians live in communist dictatures because they have free healthcare.
You make me laugh.
I'm not surprised if the Americans are so complexed. They always need to compare their country with Cuba, North Korea, or Iran to believe that their country is "so great".
Let me say it another day. If I have something that I think YOU NEED TO HEAR, AND UNDERSTAND, am I going to say, "I want you to know this SO MUCH that I've made DVDs and written books to let you know. Buy them. I can't tell you all that's in the books or on the DVDs.
Even if this bill is overturned, it's just a very small piece of the problem we have with government. And this is a government "of the people, by the people, and for the people." That's why it sucks. The people suck. There are 52 Friday nights a year and only one election every two years.
What we've seen in the last 60 years with the gradual but definite rejection of Christianity is the government that's we deserve. The president said we're not a Christian nation. Should God listen to us?
Thinking people who have been living their lives around "having fun" will redirect and refocus to be concerned about government, the constitution, heritage, progeny, long term stability is wishful thinking.
What we have is the natural result of promoting immorality as natural and normal. It blinds people to reality.
The "don't tell me what to do" crowd will never get organized behind a disciplined, long term goal of doing good for the welfare of all. They're too selfish.
People I'm from Portugal, we pay 140 euros per month of social security in the minimal wages salary(wich is 470 euros), our bosses have to pay that directly do the government but private company s gives a health insurance for about 30 euros, I've never user my social security card because these national hospitals sucks, and if you really need anything you have to wait years. what do ou think about that?
now now, the thing with this is, if you get hurt tomorrow and need surgery, people wont hassle you for your credit card. the only reason you have to wait for things like organs, is because they have to RECEIVE the organs necessary.
what is the judge on about? in britain we have social and private healthcare. i use my cigna card to pay for healthcare in private hospitals in britain. has he even been to britain before?
also why should insurance companies even be involved.
I can tell you that I've lost members of my family because of the inadequacies of that bloated tax-funded voting-block known as the NHS. Statistically, and anecdotally, the standard of service is far from satisfactory in the British NHS. So much so that the private health industry has started to boom, with lower insurance premiums and everything, even though its customers still have to pay for the NHS. That alone says a lot. "Freedom = death"? Work for the NHS, do we? Dick.
But you wouldn't care if you lost members of your family because the a) couldn't afford medical care, or b) because the insurance company wouldn't pay out.
So your point is that all forms of healthcare will have some inadequacies? Ron Paul's will be far worse than the National Health Service, which at least has an ethos that everyone should be cared for.
Freedom does equal death, except for the rich. I 'd think more of Ron Paul if he admitted that, wouldn't you? dreamer.
NHS survival rates are well known as is the scale of plunder propping it up. Waiting times for this anachronistic WWII rationing system are abysmal. You're more likely to die of an infection picked up in an NHS hospital than in a road accident and so on ad nauseam. Yet you believe the "National Insurance" system "pays out" better than voluntary insurance contributions? The streets of free-market economies teem with the dead, right, comrade? "Freedom = death" - what a cretin.
Well you make these assertions with precious little facts to back them up, apart from the British states alleged mass slaughter of your family that is.
We all know under the American system that approximately 40,000 people die every year due to lack of health care, and 10s of thousands go bankrupt trying to pay their medical bills.
Pre existing condition, born poor, born unlucky forget it.
The habit of claiming anybody who disagrees with you is a communist is pathetic.
Nice to see you included a "fact" of your own, you had to of course, having just criticised me for not providing references in a 500 char YouTube rant. Whoops, neither did you. Probably because you were embarrassed that your "fact" comes from the biased mouth of well-known socialism advocate Dr David Himmelstein. Better chance of finding rocking horse shit than an honest socialist. Necrophile, me? No, I'm the one who doesn't want thousands dying from C-diff in hospital beds.
Well you will certainly get around the hospital infection problem, by not allowing people who can't afford it to get into a hospital. Well done, that's the sort of thinking outside the box I like to see.
Under the American cartel system, people die because they can't get the medical care they need, or the insurance companies wriggle out of paying. There are thousands of cases, well documented.
Denying reality doesn't make it any less so, sorry about that.
@canisfamilliaris Hmm... I find it amazing that so many immigrants from all over the world suffer and risk death on their journey to smuggle themselves and their families into America so that they can enjoy the Freedom which you equate to death for the poor. I have to laugh at how absurd your interpretation is. Are you really that ignorant?
@roodingle what you do not understand it that immigrants are moving all over the world, looking for a better survival, this has been going on since before we were walking upright! America is one of the richest nations in the world because---- its lands were unexploited by man-Indians, hence resources, We used slavery system for 300 yrs. and then switched to a low wage slavery system. hence we exploit other human beings all because your shit don;t stink? Your better that anyone else? Wake up!
@stcrzyaatyrs YES they are looking for better survival that is why they moved from socialist countries to the U.S, because it gives them the ability to start a life where if you work hard you can be successful and keep your own home and rewards of your labor. In socialist countries you live like a poor person, you don't own much, many don't even have a car. Don't get out much, HUH?
@stcrzyaatyrs We are better than anyone else and your point is, but as your post explains you're just another libtard that feels sorry for your existence... so sad!
No fan of Socialized medicine am I, but the good judge is incorrect. There is a thriving private insurance and private medical system in the UK. The point is, since the UK's National Health Service, the single largest employer in Europe and third largest in the world servicing a country of 45 million people still has to rely on the private system to meet the needs of the people, then it would seem that the NHS is a failure.
A Health Care program is only good if the insured person can choose the scientifically proven method of healing. But that will not allow this health care program. You will get paid only pharmaceutical products. In addition, this program is the first step, how you will impose on Codex Alimentarius. So you lose the freedom on the choice of food. You will not get a more natural food. Everything must be treated with pesticides and it must be irradiated also radioactive.
Congress' authority over interstate commerce does not confer upon the govt the right to force individuals to engage in commercial activities. So the individual mandate is legally non-enforcable.
@Stepper11 on that basis you would have a case not to pay any tax as the govt uses tax to purchase commercial services and products .all these conservatives whinging about the tax burden of healthcare didnt seem to mind the bush/cheney /rumsfeld conspiracy to rack up trillions of debt on an illegal war
@mugwamp4 Extremely specious "reasoning" at best. The govt purchases goods and services with the wealth it confiscates from individuals. Once in govt coffers, the funds are public and govt (mis)uses them at its discretion. Forcing individuals to purchase a good or service with their own funds is NOT govt. discretion. BTW, Ron Paul and many other conservatives (like me) were "whinging" about Bush, et al. Get your facts straight.
@mugwamp4 Extremely specious "reasoning" at best. The govt purchases goods and services with the wealth it confiscates from individuals. Once in govt coffers, the funds are public and govt (mis)uses them at its discretion. Forcing individuals to purchase a good or service with their own funds is NOT govt. discretion. BTW, Ron Paul and many other conservatives (like me) were "whinging" about Bush, et al. Get your facts straight.
The US Bill of Rights says ...nor shall any State deprive any person of life... and the Universal Declaration of Human Rights says Everyone has the right to life. This shows that access to healthcare, for everyone rather than just for those that can afford it, is not only constitutional but also a basic human right. At 6:34, Napolitano says ...or God forbid the British model..., yet in Britain we do have this free access to healthcare as well as the choice to buy health insurance privately
american's have had access to healthcare for decades. no where in our country are people denied access to healthcare. never have been. if it's so great in Britain, why do your people come here to get care?
@Pepper7Lee If it is so great in America, why did the WHO rate your healthcare system at 37 in the world, with Slovenia being 38 and the UK being rated at 18? I would be very grateful of your comment on my blog at JamesGeddes [dot] com/blog/right-to-life/
the WHO rates health care mainly by how socialistic it is, why don't you look into what is factored into the ratings, I'm sure you wouldn't prefer Slovenia over the US as the place to have your heart transplant
You don't have a right to things that have to be forcibly taken from other people. I don't have a right to your property, you dont' have a right to mine. Healthcare is no different.
@GeddiGuy - You're beyond stupid. You actually said, "in Britain we do have this free access to healthcare." You're the kind of useful idiot the Soviets bragged about. You're so indoctrinated that you think taxes are free. That is beyond stupid.
@thomaserossi of course taxes are not free but the NHS is free at the point of use. Correct me if I am wrong, but in the USA, if you don't have insurance you could be left to die on the street! furthermore, in the UK, there is no need to call insurance companies before medics can treat patients, saving life is the top priority. take a look at Michael Moore's film "sicko"
No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
A little more than seven years ago I was diagnosed with a certain type of psychotic disorder. The same type that my mother had. I thought that my life was over because I would never have a chance to do all the things that normal people would do. In the intervening years I have been able to receive help with medications that have been able make it so that I can live a good life.Although by one estimate it will end up costing more than $3 million dollars for drugs for the rest of my life.
Unfortunately that means that I will be dependent on government welfare for the rest of my life because I would never be able to receive any type of private insurance. When this health care legislation was passed I realized that now I can go out in to the world and get a job at any company that offers private insurance. Now a private company cannot declare me ineligible because of preexisting conditions. I now have hope that I can go off of any type of government welfare.
I never thought that I would see this happen in my lifetime. No longer does a person have to become penniless to receive quarantined health insurance. To me health care is a right, and for all of those people who are diagnosed with a disease that cannot be cured. But with medication can still live a good life. Ron Paul make me so mad because he automatically assumes that free markets will give everything that is ever needed.
Ron Paul automatically assumes that if the founding fathers came back today that they would agree with him that government is corrupt. While I have no doubt Washington and others would be discussed at this government, I think that they would also be amazed at the many obstacles overcome since the founding of this country. Ron Paul should stop assuming because it always makes an ass out of you and me.
If you want to know the truth about Ron Paul then all you need to know is that in his heart of hearts he is jealous. Ron Paul knows that the Constitution gives absolute poser, and therefore covets that power. But since he cannot get it, he makes everyone around him unhappy. To me when Ron Paul talks about free market solution to health care includes images of a frontal lobotomy. Its simple quick and cheap. Everything that Ron Paul is.
Look you fools, you not getting healthcare, your getting more taxes, and a how cup of STFU, remember the bankerbailout? wasn't that to help poor old Americans pay off their ,morgage to save their poor old houses?
As soon as that bill was passed "Oops sorry slaves, that cash belongs to us now, btw you mortgage is STILL DUE, and if you don't pay, we just take your house and sell it,BTW thanks for your money, we'll be sure to use it to screw with you some more"
republicans dont understand that the constitution has a federal supremacy clause where most if not all laws passed by congress supersede states laws or what have you. if having to purchase health insurance or face a fine is unconstitutional, buying car insurance would be unconstitutional. stop spreading the lies people and get informed before you spread crap!
@ericawright3170... Umm you can choose not to drive a car, I can't (even legally or morally) choose not to LIVE, therefore forcing me to buy healthcare is total BS.
I think it is you who need to get informed my dear. What about a single payer system? All of these entitlements and debt spending have balooned our debt, healthcare is NOT A FUNDAMENTAL LIBERTY OR A RIGHT.
@DJ45DigiScientist also car insurance is handled by states, obamacare is handled by the federal government, meaning that the full force of the constitution applies.
You have to buy car insurance if you CHOOSE to drive. But having to purchase insurance just because you're alive is a little different. Who's spreading lies. You need to check the 10th amendment. States have rights so that the Federal government doesn't overstep their power, which is what Thomas Jefferson was afraid of.
The main thing is, this WILL bankrupt the US. Do you understand that?
Here's what I don't get: They [Congress] have argued, successfully, that things like wages and safety regulations fall under interstate commerce if they are connected to a product or industry that crosses state lines. HOWEVER, in the vast majority of states, you cannot purchase insurance across state lines. As per the law, health insurance cannot be a part of interstate commerce.
HeadTater: Right...Health insurance cannot be a part of interstate commerce. You can't purchase insurance across state lines. That's one of the fixes the Republicans wanted to implement. The Dems didn't listen to ANYTHING the Repubs suggested. (What else is new?)
Just because Congress has authority to oversee commerce does not mean they can force citizens to engage in commercial activity. If a citizen chooses to engage in the activity, then his or her activity may be subject to that authority.
I clicked in on Ron Paul, then I realized it was fox noise. I'm sorry, but I can't watch anything they put on with any credibility. I'll watch their competing stations; like E! they're credible.
Well you wont find them in the Republican or Democratic party thats for sure. Dennis Kucinich, Matt Gonzalez, Ralph Nader, Marcy Kupter, Jesse Ventura are some of the few brilliant people who are actually ther for us the people. They time after time fight for us, defend or rights, and our liberty. They defend our constitution. Impeach Obama!
Ron Paul is MY president -- whether he's in office or not. He is the current FATHER of our country; because he is the closest thing we have to Washington and Jefferson... and the only politician who champions America's constitution. We would do well to follow HIM, and not Obama. I can't wait to vote for him in 2012.
@electricguitarplayr so? i say he be president for 8 years idc if hes 85 when he gets out he looks very healthy for his age unlike heart attack man dick chaney and john mccaine
Maybe we should stop the illegal wars, outaa control spending, foreign aid and bank bailouts! Maybe the fatest country in the world should start eating healthy and lead a healthier lifstyle. That goes for the smokers and couch potatos as well. I do not want to pay for you poor decisions. Now people with pre-existing conditions...something needs to get done ...but not by violating my rights.
16500 new irs agents. ouch. Isn't collecting taxes from hard working people still illegal. (watch peter shiff's video about his dad's case). The court will side with the government even though it knows the tax laws are illegal/unconstitutional. Everyday has the right to income and property without it being taxed.
Everything you state is so correct! These judges that side with the inferno revenue "service" (what an oxymoran) are a bunch of wimps. "Income" is not "wages"...wages are what you receive in exchange for your hours.
so I apparently chose a bad analogy because you all have no argument or I have no argument. our choice is driving our own car or "another" means of transportation. that leaves walking, biking, or PUBLIC transportation... think about it; that leaves the transportation of China (biking).
so, either we take care of each other or we only worry about ourselves, no matter what our pay, our family history, our own history...
and, yes, you have the argument of own own personal decisions affect our heath
10% of the population could easily change the world. What we have now is well over 40% of the population in support of Ron Pauls ideals. But 20% percent of them will fall back asleep. So we end with 20% That is more than enough to make the change we need. And once we move the other sheep will wake up and join as well.
No, they were not supposed to win. The election of Obama was a deliberate PR ploy to take the heat off the the nefarious international actions of the US Federal Government. We are slaves. Of who, no one really knows, but fortunately all we have to do is one thing to break our chains: END FRACTIONAL RESERVE BANKING!!!
People can choose not to work and thereby not contribute to SS or Medicare/Caid. The arguement that because of those programs the Healthcare Bill is vaild loses validity as Constitutional, it should be over turned by the SCOTUS.
Yea, I mean, think about it, going down to the USPS for your annual check up. Hey way to go Obama. And way to go at chipping away our personal liberties. What has happened in the last ten years, we lost our privacy and now we 'have' to pay for health insurance with our jobs that going overseas. We got letter perfect Pelosi who basically said torture was ok then later changed her mind. Way to go Pelosi, do you fully understand whats on the bill this time or are yea smiling and nodding?
@Intervene you have to realize that Ron Paul is a Dr. and he is going to oppose any law that is going to cut into his pocket book, Dr.'s are rapping the American public with extreme medical costs, billing, utensils etc. I was in a hospital for 3 hours with a second degree burn to my right hand only a month ago and walked out with a $13, 000 dollar bill? Nothing more than a intense sunburn? Give me a break, stop raping the American public.
Give me a break...Ron Paul is opposing this because it will cut his pocket book? He's opposing this because he KNOWS the Constitution and is also WELL AWARE that this will definitely bankrupt the country. Obviously, you know NOTHING about Ron Paul!
@stcrzyaatyrs You do realize that you still have to pay for this health care its not free and its going to be well over $13,000 dollars a year for each and every American (MANDATORY OR JAIL TIME). Now let me ask you. Who is raping the American people?
also, the fed government just unloaded hundreds of millions of dollars in taxes on the states. $7 gallon of milk, anyone? that's what's coming after cap and trade on top of health reform. oh but don't worry, they won't raise your taxes unless you make atleast $200,000.........
@deepwater1974 you are forgetting that we now are not paying 13,000 for health insurance and the insurance companies are the biggest money makers in the world. So if we are only adding 30 million new members all paying their way, that is going make the pool bigger hence more money into it. Use logic, not emotion to rule your thoughts!
if this bill is unconstitutional, then why is it okay that drivers are forced to buy car insurance?
why is slashing preexisting conditions a burden on insurance corporations? was it okay that it was a burden on the patient before?
I agree with RP that students should have more incentive than money to be a doctor. why does it cost so much to become a doctor anyway? and why will quality go down?
I agree that government is spending too much, but there is other overspending too like on military!
@meh734 "if this bill is unconstitutional, then why is it okay that drivers are forced to buy car insurance?"
That's different, that's a STATE requirement. AND it is a requirement meant to protect other people from being harmed by a driver (with no money to pay what they owe). Forcing someone to buy something for themselves they don't want is ridiculous.
The constitution severely limits the power of the fed. govt. but gives the states great power to create the laws their constituents want.
@svenp whether people have money or not, they're still forced to purchase insurance if they drive. I've never had an accident, just a mirror torn off by a drunkard. my insurance wouldn't cover it, although I paid a lot of my monthly income. the same is the case with my health insurance: although I pay from my monthly check, I still have to pay for examinations, not to mention getting ill. shouldn't I get back what I put in?
I'm thinking out loud, but money is the problem, one way or the other.
@meh734 I'm not saying that I agree with being forced to buy LIABILITY car insurance (for the other guy, not you), but it IS the state's right under the Constitution to do that.
I prefer NH policy, they don't require you to buy auto insurance at all.
RP thinks that people should pay for health care out of pocket, at least for all the small stuff. I agree. Costs would come down and you wouldn't need to buy insurance except for catastrophic coverage. Everyone would save A LOT OF MONEY.
Actually many states don't require everyone to carry auto insurance. If you have enough net worth to self-insure then you are not required to carry insurance.
If your insurance wouldn't cover the mirror being torn off then you should be looking for a new insurance company.
In most cases it wouldn't be worth claiming. Either your deductible would end up covering most of the cost. Even if you have a 0 deductible your rates would probably go up more than the cost of repairing the mirror.
requisite insurance is NOT "ok", consitutionally. a nation full of people driving cars they can't afford would collapse financially if people weren't forced by the state to get insurance (what if private property rights were still intact?). there would be a vehicle bubble, everybody would have to take the bus... it's a law that protects the hyper-consumer lifestyle we lead, and it contributes to the policies that absorb and transfer our wealth to massive foreign entities...
Becuase you do not have to drive a car. You have a choice; if you want the privilege of operating an automobile on public streets you need to provide insurance. If you don't want to buy auto insurance get a bicycle or use public transportation.
The bill is unconstitutional because you have no choice once you are born. If you are breathing you pay.
As for pre-existing conditions, why is it fair to burden others with the cost of that care that are healthy and do not require expensive health care?
@meh734 driving is a choice and privilege and you create a liability by doing so and is done on public roads you really cannot compare that to just being alive
Disappointed in Ron here. I agree we should repeal the insurance mandate, but the preexisting conditions is clearly a good thing for people, maybe not for insurance companies, but this government is supposed to be for the people, not big business. Want to talk constitutionality? Let's stop the war in Afghanistan first. At the very least stop the drone attacks which create more terrorist than they kill.
As libertarians we often forget that it's not just big gov't that's the problem. It's big Business! The business influence the politicians so they can make laws that protect their business. The big business want to make it harder to do business so it's harder for the little guy to compete.
Napolitano needs to educate himself on the UK system. It does offer private health insurance options, it's just most don't use it or pay extra since they are already taxed for the universal system.
Well you wont find them in the Republican or Democratic party thats for sure. Dennis Kucinich, Matt Gonzalez, Ralph Nader, Marcy Kupter, Jesse Ventura are some of the few brilliant people who are actually ther for us the people. The time after time fight for us, defend or rights, and our liberty. They defend our constitution. Impeach Obama!
I agree....but remember america voted for bush TWICE. I dont see these village idots voting to impeach Obama....though I would love for Obama and most of congress to be fired.
@sweeney71 wow someone is a little angry? The supreme court ruled he won. The whole recount was crazy. but it was close. He was the winner. so get over it. He didnt steal anything his second time running winning 31 of 50 states with absoulte majority of the popular vote. Dont be pissed of at me cause we live in country filled with morons.
As much as I like Ron Paul, this video doesn't "expose" anything. A lot is said about "the bill will cause this" and "the bill will cause that" but there is no real information provided here that says what exactly it is that is in this bill that will cause or lead to such claims.
That confirms it, anyone associated with FOX has ZERO credibility in my book. The media are the eyes and ears of the propogandists whom ruined this world for their own selfish interests.
And the health care bill that just passed is a complete letdown, by the way. Between the actions of Democrats and Republicans, it has now been pecked to death and there are only a few good things left in it. It still doesn't address the problem.
It's also a handout to the insurance companies, who need to go out of business, not get more customers.
But you're not allowed to talk about these things without being attacked. That's because people have been propagandized to the point where they've just stopped learning. If anyone actually looks up the statistics they will see the difference between the two models. And Canada is NOT the best representative. France is a much better example, and yeah they have debt. So what? the US has a lot of debt for the same reason and some others. Like two wars for example. Whatever happened to priorities?
They won't get anywhere by bashing the Canadian health care system because it's a better functioning and cheaper system. So it works for a while until people actually look up the statistics and actually talk to someone who knows about these things.
So I do take offense to an extent, but oh well. I also take offense to gay bashing and various other actions by the right wing cultural supremacists. They don't know that it's okay to have variety and still retain meaning in your own culture.
There are so many bad things that come along with the right wing. So many good ideas get drowned out by crazy racists, homophobes and cultural supremacists who have been brainwashed into believing that government is always the problem.
I'm politically much different from Ron Paul on domestic issues. It makes sense since I'm Canadian. I'm not enslaved, I'm not complaining about my health care. I get care in a timely and quality manner and there's no insurance company ruining my life.
Health is first of all in your food. By different spending, different and less eating America could get healthier. And spending less. So healthier people don't need coloured containers with all kind of expansive patented substances in it.
I looked at the vote count for this in the house of representatives and Dr. Paul voted FOR it? O,o I was suprised, why would he?
NazcarFanatic24 1 month ago
The Americans don't want to pay taxes for free healthcare, they prefer give money to private companies which will fuck them in the ass at the first occasion (who is stupid enought to trust a private insurance company???)
It just shows how stupid the Americans are (and also so selfish).
The Europeans/Can/Aus/NZ/Japs prefer pay a bit more taxes to be sure that they will be totally covered (no private insurances to fuck you, no need to pay 100.000$ for your care, everybody get healthcare).
Freez57fr 1 month ago
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New Zealand for RON PAUL!!! Dam i wish we had a PM like him
ThePriya5345 2 months ago
I won't buy health insurance, I won't use doctors & if I need to I'll pay cash. I eat healthy and exercise. I know people who died from cancer and one who made himself well through nutrition against his doctors recommendation. No to ObamaCare. Our corrupt government will start forcing people to buy all kinds of crap. Next will be mandatory vaccinations against a fake diseases.
PerezTeam 3 months ago
People like to argue that paying car insurance is not force. It is a force. If you don't pay car insurance and you drive, you can get fine up to $1,000 and/or jail time.
crazieeez 6 months ago
@csbob2010 People ARE FORCE to pay car insurance if they drive. However you look at it, people are FORCE to buy car insurance if they drive. What part of the force you don't get it? Did you graduate from high school ... you fail logic ... logic does not fail you because you are too dumb to recognize the logic.
crazieeez 6 months ago
16,500 for IRS agents? are you fucking serious?
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RON PAUL IS GOING TO BE PROSECUTED BY UNITED STATES OF AMERICA! ITS UNCONSTITUTIONAL TO CALL AMERICAN PEOPLE INVADERS AND INITIATERS OF WARS.
RON PAUL SAID THE USA INVADES COUNTRIES AND STARTS WARS, WHICH GIVES USA A BAD REPUTATION AROUND THE WORLD , THEREFORE IT IS CONSIDERED A CRIME . A US CITIZEN WHO
WAS BORN IN USA CANT GO AGAINST GOVERNMENT POLICIES WHICH MIGHT TREATEN THE FUTURE
OF THE COUNTRYS SECURITY .
RON PAUL WILL BE PROSECUTED BY US GOVERNMENT!
democratsaresmart 8 months ago
Car insurance argument is total bullshit. No one forces you to drive. The insurance requirement is to protect others from you. So you are required to at least cover other persons expenses, whether you pay for your own is your own problem. Health insurance should also be YOUR OWN PROBLEM, not everyone Else's.
csbob2010 1 year ago 4
@csbob2010 People ARE FORCE to buy car insurance. It's the same logic and principle, essentially people are forced to buy something they don't need. I don't need car insurance, I just need the car. If you want to get car insurance, you go ahead and do it but DON'T FORCE me to get it when I don't need it.
crazieeez 6 months ago
@crazieeez Are you slow? If you drive you need to get insurance because it guarantees when YOU hit SOMEONE ELSE, the other persons expenses are paid for. That is why the minimum collision is going to cover the other persons expenses and not your own. And no people are not forced to buy care insurance because if you don't drive you don't pay it. Now if you want to drive, then you are forced to get car insurance for other people on the road NOT YOU. How are you not getting this?
csbob2010 6 months ago
@6:35 I dunno if he implies that there's no private health insurance in Canada but that is quite false. There's many things that the Universal Healtcare Program doesn't pay for in Canada and people get private insurance if they want more than the bare minimum.
HarfangX 1 year ago
the car insurance argument is bullshit.. insurance on a car is to protect you from other people in case you do damage. If i get sick I am not hurting anyone.. unless by thenyou want to argue that im hurting others because im putting the tax burden on others.. If this is the case then your argument that others without insurance cannot get cared is a flaw and a lie. So which is it democrats?
Chslosers 1 year ago
Obviously they added the mandate to kill the bill.
needparalegal 1 year ago
obsession with the word 'freedom'. you dont even know what it means.
nemesis700 1 year ago
"If we lose freedom here, there is no place to escape to. This is the last stand on Earth." -reagan
Chslosers 1 year ago
@Chslosers If you lose freedom in the U.S. come to Canada... you'll find we don't have the Partriot Act here.
tyvm.
HarfangX 1 year ago
@HarfangX true.. but I don't want to spend more on subtle taxes in order to justify the healthcare system.
Chslosers 1 year ago
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@HarfangX You'll find that you pay a shit load of taxes for other peoples stupid bullshit. I'll pass.
csbob2010 6 months ago
@Chslosers
HAhaha a quote from reagan?
Can't you find better?
"This is the last stand on Earth"...
Right. Everybody knows that the USA is the ONLY free and democratic nation in the world.
Canadians, Japs, Europeans, Australians live in communist dictatures because they have free healthcare.
You make me laugh.
I'm not surprised if the Americans are so complexed. They always need to compare their country with Cuba, North Korea, or Iran to believe that their country is "so great".
Freez57fr 1 month ago
where is his tin foil hat?
Atombombmother 1 year ago
Vote Ron Paul usa , The last hope ,.He is the way forward ,
Love and light all ways. From your brothers and sisters in Australia
xingwei12 1 year ago
If I loved truth than money, I'd TELL YOU without charge, just as Andrew Wommack does, who allows downloads of audio and video teaching for free.
911dispatcher 1 year ago
I can't? No, really I *won't* because if I do you might not buy my books and DVDs.
911dispatcher 1 year ago
Let me say it another day. If I have something that I think YOU NEED TO HEAR, AND UNDERSTAND, am I going to say, "I want you to know this SO MUCH that I've made DVDs and written books to let you know. Buy them. I can't tell you all that's in the books or on the DVDs.
911dispatcher 1 year ago
Even if this bill is overturned, it's just a very small piece of the problem we have with government. And this is a government "of the people, by the people, and for the people." That's why it sucks. The people suck. There are 52 Friday nights a year and only one election every two years.
What we've seen in the last 60 years with the gradual but definite rejection of Christianity is the government that's we deserve. The president said we're not a Christian nation. Should God listen to us?
911dispatcher 1 year ago
Thinking people who have been living their lives around "having fun" will redirect and refocus to be concerned about government, the constitution, heritage, progeny, long term stability is wishful thinking.
What we have is the natural result of promoting immorality as natural and normal. It blinds people to reality.
The "don't tell me what to do" crowd will never get organized behind a disciplined, long term goal of doing good for the welfare of all. They're too selfish.
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futuristicidea87 1 year ago
People I'm from Portugal, we pay 140 euros per month of social security in the minimal wages salary(wich is 470 euros), our bosses have to pay that directly do the government but private company s gives a health insurance for about 30 euros, I've never user my social security card because these national hospitals sucks, and if you really need anything you have to wait years. what do ou think about that?
Homemcardoso 1 year ago
now now, the thing with this is, if you get hurt tomorrow and need surgery, people wont hassle you for your credit card. the only reason you have to wait for things like organs, is because they have to RECEIVE the organs necessary.
nemesis700 1 year ago
what is the judge on about? in britain we have social and private healthcare. i use my cigna card to pay for healthcare in private hospitals in britain. has he even been to britain before?
also why should insurance companies even be involved.
bonfirejovi 1 year ago
Trying to reason with a liberal is like trying to reason with a retarded 3 year old who's drunk...
roodingle 1 year ago 3
Ron Paul 2012 - someone with common sense!
roodingle 1 year ago
Rationing of care, lol. Like the American system doesn't ration care, by those who can afford the care.
Freedom = death for poor people, how moral.
canisfamilliaris 1 year ago
@canisfamilliaris
I can tell you that I've lost members of my family because of the inadequacies of that bloated tax-funded voting-block known as the NHS. Statistically, and anecdotally, the standard of service is far from satisfactory in the British NHS. So much so that the private health industry has started to boom, with lower insurance premiums and everything, even though its customers still have to pay for the NHS. That alone says a lot. "Freedom = death"? Work for the NHS, do we? Dick.
HarryBallbag 1 year ago
@HarryBallbag
But you wouldn't care if you lost members of your family because the a) couldn't afford medical care, or b) because the insurance company wouldn't pay out.
So your point is that all forms of healthcare will have some inadequacies? Ron Paul's will be far worse than the National Health Service, which at least has an ethos that everyone should be cared for.
Freedom does equal death, except for the rich. I 'd think more of Ron Paul if he admitted that, wouldn't you? dreamer.
canisfamilliaris 1 year ago
@canisfamilliaris
NHS survival rates are well known as is the scale of plunder propping it up. Waiting times for this anachronistic WWII rationing system are abysmal. You're more likely to die of an infection picked up in an NHS hospital than in a road accident and so on ad nauseam. Yet you believe the "National Insurance" system "pays out" better than voluntary insurance contributions? The streets of free-market economies teem with the dead, right, comrade? "Freedom = death" - what a cretin.
HarryBallbag 1 year ago 2
@HarryBallbag
Well you make these assertions with precious little facts to back them up, apart from the British states alleged mass slaughter of your family that is.
We all know under the American system that approximately 40,000 people die every year due to lack of health care, and 10s of thousands go bankrupt trying to pay their medical bills.
Pre existing condition, born poor, born unlucky forget it.
The habit of claiming anybody who disagrees with you is a communist is pathetic.
Necrophile
canisfamilliaris 1 year ago
@canisfamilliaris
Nice to see you included a "fact" of your own, you had to of course, having just criticised me for not providing references in a 500 char YouTube rant. Whoops, neither did you. Probably because you were embarrassed that your "fact" comes from the biased mouth of well-known socialism advocate Dr David Himmelstein. Better chance of finding rocking horse shit than an honest socialist. Necrophile, me? No, I'm the one who doesn't want thousands dying from C-diff in hospital beds.
HarryBallbag 1 year ago 2
@HarryBallbag
Well you will certainly get around the hospital infection problem, by not allowing people who can't afford it to get into a hospital. Well done, that's the sort of thinking outside the box I like to see.
Under the American cartel system, people die because they can't get the medical care they need, or the insurance companies wriggle out of paying. There are thousands of cases, well documented.
Denying reality doesn't make it any less so, sorry about that.
canisfamilliaris 1 year ago 2
@canisfamilliaris Hmm... I find it amazing that so many immigrants from all over the world suffer and risk death on their journey to smuggle themselves and their families into America so that they can enjoy the Freedom which you equate to death for the poor. I have to laugh at how absurd your interpretation is. Are you really that ignorant?
roodingle 1 year ago
@roodingle what you do not understand it that immigrants are moving all over the world, looking for a better survival, this has been going on since before we were walking upright! America is one of the richest nations in the world because---- its lands were unexploited by man-Indians, hence resources, We used slavery system for 300 yrs. and then switched to a low wage slavery system. hence we exploit other human beings all because your shit don;t stink? Your better that anyone else? Wake up!
stcrzyaatyrs 1 year ago
@stcrzyaatyrs YES they are looking for better survival that is why they moved from socialist countries to the U.S, because it gives them the ability to start a life where if you work hard you can be successful and keep your own home and rewards of your labor. In socialist countries you live like a poor person, you don't own much, many don't even have a car. Don't get out much, HUH?
roodingle 1 year ago
@stcrzyaatyrs We are better than anyone else and your point is, but as your post explains you're just another libtard that feels sorry for your existence... so sad!
WakeupFreedom 1 year ago
Voted them out for Democrats and Republicans. Let's VOTE IN FOR THIRD PARTY like Ron Paul!
vikingscool 1 year ago
There is a very proud man in the White House, and pride comes before the fall (Proverbs 16:18).
waluum 1 year ago 2
No fan of Socialized medicine am I, but the good judge is incorrect. There is a thriving private insurance and private medical system in the UK. The point is, since the UK's National Health Service, the single largest employer in Europe and third largest in the world servicing a country of 45 million people still has to rely on the private system to meet the needs of the people, then it would seem that the NHS is a failure.
steve0281 1 year ago
A Health Care program is only good if the insured person can choose the scientifically proven method of healing. But that will not allow this health care program. You will get paid only pharmaceutical products. In addition, this program is the first step, how you will impose on Codex Alimentarius. So you lose the freedom on the choice of food. You will not get a more natural food. Everything must be treated with pesticides and it must be irradiated also radioactive.
Lightfromsirius 1 year ago
Congress' authority over interstate commerce does not confer upon the govt the right to force individuals to engage in commercial activities. So the individual mandate is legally non-enforcable.
Stepper11 1 year ago
@Stepper11 on that basis you would have a case not to pay any tax as the govt uses tax to purchase commercial services and products .all these conservatives whinging about the tax burden of healthcare didnt seem to mind the bush/cheney /rumsfeld conspiracy to rack up trillions of debt on an illegal war
mugwamp4 1 year ago
@mugwamp4 Extremely specious "reasoning" at best. The govt purchases goods and services with the wealth it confiscates from individuals. Once in govt coffers, the funds are public and govt (mis)uses them at its discretion. Forcing individuals to purchase a good or service with their own funds is NOT govt. discretion. BTW, Ron Paul and many other conservatives (like me) were "whinging" about Bush, et al. Get your facts straight.
Stepper11 1 year ago
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@mugwamp4 Extremely specious "reasoning" at best. The govt purchases goods and services with the wealth it confiscates from individuals. Once in govt coffers, the funds are public and govt (mis)uses them at its discretion. Forcing individuals to purchase a good or service with their own funds is NOT govt. discretion. BTW, Ron Paul and many other conservatives (like me) were "whinging" about Bush, et al. Get your facts straight.
Stepper11 1 year ago
The US Bill of Rights says ...nor shall any State deprive any person of life... and the Universal Declaration of Human Rights says Everyone has the right to life. This shows that access to healthcare, for everyone rather than just for those that can afford it, is not only constitutional but also a basic human right. At 6:34, Napolitano says ...or God forbid the British model..., yet in Britain we do have this free access to healthcare as well as the choice to buy health insurance privately
GeddiGuy 1 year ago
@GeddiGuy
american's have had access to healthcare for decades. no where in our country are people denied access to healthcare. never have been. if it's so great in Britain, why do your people come here to get care?
Pepper7Lee 1 year ago
@Pepper7Lee If it is so great in America, why did the WHO rate your healthcare system at 37 in the world, with Slovenia being 38 and the UK being rated at 18? I would be very grateful of your comment on my blog at JamesGeddes [dot] com/blog/right-to-life/
GeddiGuy 1 year ago
the WHO rates health care mainly by how socialistic it is, why don't you look into what is factored into the ratings, I'm sure you wouldn't prefer Slovenia over the US as the place to have your heart transplant
yury2268 1 year ago
Can you get a heart transplant in the US with out mega insurance?
coach3sheff 1 year ago
You don't have a right to things that have to be forcibly taken from other people. I don't have a right to your property, you dont' have a right to mine. Healthcare is no different.
stockleeroy 1 year ago
@GeddiGuy - You're beyond stupid. You actually said, "in Britain we do have this free access to healthcare." You're the kind of useful idiot the Soviets bragged about. You're so indoctrinated that you think taxes are free. That is beyond stupid.
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@thomaserossi of course taxes are not free but the NHS is free at the point of use. Correct me if I am wrong, but in the USA, if you don't have insurance you could be left to die on the street! furthermore, in the UK, there is no need to call insurance companies before medics can treat patients, saving life is the top priority. take a look at Michael Moore's film "sicko"
GeddiGuy 1 year ago
No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
FIP776 1 year ago
maybe we should get our guns and brother ready, and match on capitol hill and remind those empty suits who they actually represented!!!
sweeney71 1 year ago
Note to the Paultards..Get some health insurance. We are tired of carrying your asses.
NoLibertarian 1 year ago
There are still people not yet waking up, that's the problem.
mnmsdn 1 year ago
A little more than seven years ago I was diagnosed with a certain type of psychotic disorder. The same type that my mother had. I thought that my life was over because I would never have a chance to do all the things that normal people would do. In the intervening years I have been able to receive help with medications that have been able make it so that I can live a good life.Although by one estimate it will end up costing more than $3 million dollars for drugs for the rest of my life.
18bcarlson 1 year ago
Unfortunately that means that I will be dependent on government welfare for the rest of my life because I would never be able to receive any type of private insurance. When this health care legislation was passed I realized that now I can go out in to the world and get a job at any company that offers private insurance. Now a private company cannot declare me ineligible because of preexisting conditions. I now have hope that I can go off of any type of government welfare.
18bcarlson 1 year ago
I never thought that I would see this happen in my lifetime. No longer does a person have to become penniless to receive quarantined health insurance. To me health care is a right, and for all of those people who are diagnosed with a disease that cannot be cured. But with medication can still live a good life. Ron Paul make me so mad because he automatically assumes that free markets will give everything that is ever needed.
18bcarlson 1 year ago
Ron Paul automatically assumes that if the founding fathers came back today that they would agree with him that government is corrupt. While I have no doubt Washington and others would be discussed at this government, I think that they would also be amazed at the many obstacles overcome since the founding of this country. Ron Paul should stop assuming because it always makes an ass out of you and me.
18bcarlson 1 year ago
If you want to know the truth about Ron Paul then all you need to know is that in his heart of hearts he is jealous. Ron Paul knows that the Constitution gives absolute poser, and therefore covets that power. But since he cannot get it, he makes everyone around him unhappy. To me when Ron Paul talks about free market solution to health care includes images of a frontal lobotomy. Its simple quick and cheap. Everything that Ron Paul is.
18bcarlson 1 year ago
@18bcarlson
Look you fools, you not getting healthcare, your getting more taxes, and a how cup of STFU, remember the bankerbailout? wasn't that to help poor old Americans pay off their ,morgage to save their poor old houses?
As soon as that bill was passed "Oops sorry slaves, that cash belongs to us now, btw you mortgage is STILL DUE, and if you don't pay, we just take your house and sell it,BTW thanks for your money, we'll be sure to use it to screw with you some more"
chevytheplayer 1 year ago
republicans dont understand that the constitution has a federal supremacy clause where most if not all laws passed by congress supersede states laws or what have you. if having to purchase health insurance or face a fine is unconstitutional, buying car insurance would be unconstitutional. stop spreading the lies people and get informed before you spread crap!
ericawright3170 1 year ago
@ericawright3170... Umm you can choose not to drive a car, I can't (even legally or morally) choose not to LIVE, therefore forcing me to buy healthcare is total BS.
I think it is you who need to get informed my dear. What about a single payer system? All of these entitlements and debt spending have balooned our debt, healthcare is NOT A FUNDAMENTAL LIBERTY OR A RIGHT.
DJ45DigiScientist 1 year ago 31
@DJ45DigiScientist ...what is a fundamental right???? to drive to canada and buy subsidised drugs!!!courtesy of the canadian taxpayer
mugwamp4 1 year ago
@DJ45DigiScientist ....MANDITORY CAR INSURANCE IS ILLEGAL TOO.
13AJJONES 1 year ago
@DJ45DigiScientist also car insurance is handled by states, obamacare is handled by the federal government, meaning that the full force of the constitution applies.
Trimbler00 9 months ago
You have to buy car insurance if you CHOOSE to drive. But having to purchase insurance just because you're alive is a little different. Who's spreading lies. You need to check the 10th amendment. States have rights so that the Federal government doesn't overstep their power, which is what Thomas Jefferson was afraid of.
The main thing is, this WILL bankrupt the US. Do you understand that?
1stardancer 1 year ago
Here's what I don't get: They [Congress] have argued, successfully, that things like wages and safety regulations fall under interstate commerce if they are connected to a product or industry that crosses state lines. HOWEVER, in the vast majority of states, you cannot purchase insurance across state lines. As per the law, health insurance cannot be a part of interstate commerce.
HeadTater 1 year ago
HeadTater: Right...Health insurance cannot be a part of interstate commerce. You can't purchase insurance across state lines. That's one of the fixes the Republicans wanted to implement. The Dems didn't listen to ANYTHING the Repubs suggested. (What else is new?)
1stardancer 1 year ago
We need more people to follow in Ron Paul's footsteps. Eventually enough constitutionalists could take over the House.
defexorcist 1 year ago 2
Just because Congress has authority to oversee commerce does not mean they can force citizens to engage in commercial activity. If a citizen chooses to engage in the activity, then his or her activity may be subject to that authority.
Stepper11 1 year ago
I clicked in on Ron Paul, then I realized it was fox noise. I'm sorry, but I can't watch anything they put on with any credibility. I'll watch their competing stations; like E! they're credible.
mcgloinm 1 year ago
america's last hope.
enuvune 1 year ago
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Well you wont find them in the Republican or Democratic party thats for sure. Dennis Kucinich, Matt Gonzalez, Ralph Nader, Marcy Kupter, Jesse Ventura are some of the few brilliant people who are actually ther for us the people. They time after time fight for us, defend or rights, and our liberty. They defend our constitution. Impeach Obama!
aguafinatv 1 year ago
Ron Paul is MY president -- whether he's in office or not. He is the current FATHER of our country; because he is the closest thing we have to Washington and Jefferson... and the only politician who champions America's constitution. We would do well to follow HIM, and not Obama. I can't wait to vote for him in 2012.
anotherfoolonthehlLL 1 year ago 56
americans in future generations won't even know who jefferson is since he was removed from text books.
hell, in the future they might replace washington with jesus.
enuvune 1 year ago
Ron Paul is the most direct political decedent of the Founding Fathers that we have today.
HeadTater 1 year ago 3
@anotherfoolonthehlLL He's a fuckin jack ass.
NoLibertarian 1 year ago
@anotherfoolonthehlLL UNITED WE CAN!!! RON PAUL 2012!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
mark695847 1 year ago 11
@anotherfoolonthehlLL I like your username! So true, yet another one in office!
packrat76 1 year ago
@anotherfoolonthehlLL if he runs. He will be 77 in 2012.
electricguitarplayr 1 year ago
@electricguitarplayr so? i say he be president for 8 years idc if hes 85 when he gets out he looks very healthy for his age unlike heart attack man dick chaney and john mccaine
ieatdeadbabies101 1 year ago
Maybe we should stop the illegal wars, outaa control spending, foreign aid and bank bailouts! Maybe the fatest country in the world should start eating healthy and lead a healthier lifstyle. That goes for the smokers and couch potatos as well. I do not want to pay for you poor decisions. Now people with pre-existing conditions...something needs to get done ...but not by violating my rights.
muhls 1 year ago
16500 new irs agents. ouch. Isn't collecting taxes from hard working people still illegal. (watch peter shiff's video about his dad's case). The court will side with the government even though it knows the tax laws are illegal/unconstitutional. Everyday has the right to income and property without it being taxed.
MrClawson9 1 year ago
Everything you state is so correct! These judges that side with the inferno revenue "service" (what an oxymoran) are a bunch of wimps. "Income" is not "wages"...wages are what you receive in exchange for your hours.
1stardancer 1 year ago
This system of private/ public health care works in almost every European country and doesn't cost even half of what the American system will cost!
jmccooe 1 year ago
so I apparently chose a bad analogy because you all have no argument or I have no argument. our choice is driving our own car or "another" means of transportation. that leaves walking, biking, or PUBLIC transportation... think about it; that leaves the transportation of China (biking).
so, either we take care of each other or we only worry about ourselves, no matter what our pay, our family history, our own history...
and, yes, you have the argument of own own personal decisions affect our heath
meh734 1 year ago
10% of the population could easily change the world. What we have now is well over 40% of the population in support of Ron Pauls ideals. But 20% percent of them will fall back asleep. So we end with 20% That is more than enough to make the change we need. And once we move the other sheep will wake up and join as well.
IKSDoomie 1 year ago
Ron Paul to me was the only candidate that could have easily beaten Obama. I can't understand why they ran with McCain. DIdn't they want to win?
jeffcowhick 1 year ago 2
No, they were not supposed to win. The election of Obama was a deliberate PR ploy to take the heat off the the nefarious international actions of the US Federal Government. We are slaves. Of who, no one really knows, but fortunately all we have to do is one thing to break our chains: END FRACTIONAL RESERVE BANKING!!!
randyleepublic 1 year ago
People can choose not to work and thereby not contribute to SS or Medicare/Caid. The arguement that because of those programs the Healthcare Bill is vaild loses validity as Constitutional, it should be over turned by the SCOTUS.
Leavon 1 year ago
Well, looks like Michael Moore and his flock of sheeple will get what they want...
bubbadankness 1 year ago
if he takes a well eaned vacation, that might be a sign that he's running in 2012
EricFinnerty 1 year ago
America is an out of control colony that can't contain itself.
Ranlon 1 year ago 3
America is an out of control empire. 700+ military bases on foreign soil. 250 international military interventions since 1776.
borisbmx 1 year ago
Yea, I mean, think about it, going down to the USPS for your annual check up. Hey way to go Obama. And way to go at chipping away our personal liberties. What has happened in the last ten years, we lost our privacy and now we 'have' to pay for health insurance with our jobs that going overseas. We got letter perfect Pelosi who basically said torture was ok then later changed her mind. Way to go Pelosi, do you fully understand whats on the bill this time or are yea smiling and nodding?
matt234509 1 year ago 3
Go Ron Paul!!!
Intervene 1 year ago 8
@Intervene you have to realize that Ron Paul is a Dr. and he is going to oppose any law that is going to cut into his pocket book, Dr.'s are rapping the American public with extreme medical costs, billing, utensils etc. I was in a hospital for 3 hours with a second degree burn to my right hand only a month ago and walked out with a $13, 000 dollar bill? Nothing more than a intense sunburn? Give me a break, stop raping the American public.
stcrzyaatyrs 1 year ago
Give me a break...Ron Paul is opposing this because it will cut his pocket book? He's opposing this because he KNOWS the Constitution and is also WELL AWARE that this will definitely bankrupt the country. Obviously, you know NOTHING about Ron Paul!
1stardancer 1 year ago
@stcrzyaatyrs You do realize that you still have to pay for this health care its not free and its going to be well over $13,000 dollars a year for each and every American (MANDATORY OR JAIL TIME). Now let me ask you. Who is raping the American people?
deepwater1974 1 year ago 2
@deepwater1974
also, the fed government just unloaded hundreds of millions of dollars in taxes on the states. $7 gallon of milk, anyone? that's what's coming after cap and trade on top of health reform. oh but don't worry, they won't raise your taxes unless you make atleast $200,000.........
Pepper7Lee 1 year ago
@deepwater1974 you are forgetting that we now are not paying 13,000 for health insurance and the insurance companies are the biggest money makers in the world. So if we are only adding 30 million new members all paying their way, that is going make the pool bigger hence more money into it. Use logic, not emotion to rule your thoughts!
stcrzyaatyrs 1 year ago
@stcrzyaatyrs I am using logic and your missing my point.
deepwater1974 1 year ago
if this bill is unconstitutional, then why is it okay that drivers are forced to buy car insurance?
why is slashing preexisting conditions a burden on insurance corporations? was it okay that it was a burden on the patient before?
I agree with RP that students should have more incentive than money to be a doctor. why does it cost so much to become a doctor anyway? and why will quality go down?
I agree that government is spending too much, but there is other overspending too like on military!
meh734 1 year ago
@meh734 "if this bill is unconstitutional, then why is it okay that drivers are forced to buy car insurance?"
That's different, that's a STATE requirement. AND it is a requirement meant to protect other people from being harmed by a driver (with no money to pay what they owe). Forcing someone to buy something for themselves they don't want is ridiculous.
The constitution severely limits the power of the fed. govt. but gives the states great power to create the laws their constituents want.
svenp 1 year ago 2
@svenp whether people have money or not, they're still forced to purchase insurance if they drive. I've never had an accident, just a mirror torn off by a drunkard. my insurance wouldn't cover it, although I paid a lot of my monthly income. the same is the case with my health insurance: although I pay from my monthly check, I still have to pay for examinations, not to mention getting ill. shouldn't I get back what I put in?
I'm thinking out loud, but money is the problem, one way or the other.
meh734 1 year ago
@meh734 I'm not saying that I agree with being forced to buy LIABILITY car insurance (for the other guy, not you), but it IS the state's right under the Constitution to do that.
I prefer NH policy, they don't require you to buy auto insurance at all.
RP thinks that people should pay for health care out of pocket, at least for all the small stuff. I agree. Costs would come down and you wouldn't need to buy insurance except for catastrophic coverage. Everyone would save A LOT OF MONEY.
svenp 1 year ago
People can chose not to drive as there are other means of transportation.
zeusdadestroyer 1 year ago
The biggest difference is "if they drive"
You dont' have to buy car insurance if you don't want to drive.
GnarledCypress 1 year ago
Actually many states don't require everyone to carry auto insurance. If you have enough net worth to self-insure then you are not required to carry insurance.
If your insurance wouldn't cover the mirror being torn off then you should be looking for a new insurance company.
In most cases it wouldn't be worth claiming. Either your deductible would end up covering most of the cost. Even if you have a 0 deductible your rates would probably go up more than the cost of repairing the mirror.
aymric 1 year ago
requisite insurance is NOT "ok", consitutionally. a nation full of people driving cars they can't afford would collapse financially if people weren't forced by the state to get insurance (what if private property rights were still intact?). there would be a vehicle bubble, everybody would have to take the bus... it's a law that protects the hyper-consumer lifestyle we lead, and it contributes to the policies that absorb and transfer our wealth to massive foreign entities...
bedtime4bonzo 1 year ago
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matt234509 1 year ago
Becuase you do not have to drive a car. You have a choice; if you want the privilege of operating an automobile on public streets you need to provide insurance. If you don't want to buy auto insurance get a bicycle or use public transportation.
The bill is unconstitutional because you have no choice once you are born. If you are breathing you pay.
As for pre-existing conditions, why is it fair to burden others with the cost of that care that are healthy and do not require expensive health care?
ride446 1 year ago 2
@meh734 driving is a choice and privilege and you create a liability by doing so and is done on public roads you really cannot compare that to just being alive
now33 1 year ago
This is propaganda. Who else made propaganda through "objective" tv?...
jb1563700 1 year ago
How Is this Propaganda? A man that is tryna save his Country unlike Some People
DangerMouse232 1 year ago
Ron Paul! .... Ron Paul! .... Ron Paul!
hes gunna have a 1 page bill
that goes right to the heart of the argument!
Ron Paul is the man!!
Bux7777 1 year ago 2
hahaha I know right..Ron Paul knows his Stuff and He knows What the peopel Want
I dont Feds Any more..>They need to Go,If The Feds didnt exsist...We wouldnt have this Bloody Debt
DangerMouse232 1 year ago 4
I think Ron Paul kicks ass!!
MrSpieldose 1 year ago
Politicians: Unimportant people making Important decisions
turboteabag08 1 year ago
Wait a second. Fox made fun of the only republican concerned with the constitution (Ron Paul) in 2008. What the heck?
JohnNoZ35 1 year ago 3
this show cant be for real. WOW gj Napolitano and paul you are our saviours
rosencrown 1 year ago
off-topic......the Judge's hairline is absolutely incredible...anyway thank God for Dr Ron Paul and Judge Napolitano!
yaaaa10 1 year ago 2
Disappointed in Ron here. I agree we should repeal the insurance mandate, but the preexisting conditions is clearly a good thing for people, maybe not for insurance companies, but this government is supposed to be for the people, not big business. Want to talk constitutionality? Let's stop the war in Afghanistan first. At the very least stop the drone attacks which create more terrorist than they kill.
mcnamara17 1 year ago
I love how obama has a little kid come up front and watch him sign the bill..unbelievable.
deepwater1974 1 year ago
Oh, yeah, that was so cute. The kid got to witness a bill that is going to saddle him and all the other kids with enormous debt. Get real!
1stardancer 1 year ago
@1stardancer Yeah it made me sick.
deepwater1974 1 year ago
As libertarians we often forget that it's not just big gov't that's the problem. It's big Business! The business influence the politicians so they can make laws that protect their business. The big business want to make it harder to do business so it's harder for the little guy to compete.
john5246 1 year ago 2
Napolitano needs to educate himself on the UK system. It does offer private health insurance options, it's just most don't use it or pay extra since they are already taxed for the universal system.
tpwatson 1 year ago
the powers that be want to hasten the collapse.
simichasimicha 1 year ago
Ron Paul is a really decent man. Where are all the other decent people????
simichasimicha 1 year ago
Well you wont find them in the Republican or Democratic party thats for sure. Dennis Kucinich, Matt Gonzalez, Ralph Nader, Marcy Kupter, Jesse Ventura are some of the few brilliant people who are actually ther for us the people. The time after time fight for us, defend or rights, and our liberty. They defend our constitution. Impeach Obama!
aguafinatv 1 year ago
I agree....but remember america voted for bush TWICE. I dont see these village idots voting to impeach Obama....though I would love for Obama and most of congress to be fired.
muhls 1 year ago
bush stole the first one. if you are going to bash Americans, know what the fuck you are saying
sweeney71 1 year ago
@sweeney71 Amen Brother!! first reform the voteing, get a true count!!! They have been stealing our votes for years!!! Then Vote.. Ron Paul 2012
mark695847 1 year ago
@sweeney71 wow someone is a little angry? The supreme court ruled he won. The whole recount was crazy. but it was close. He was the winner. so get over it. He didnt steal anything his second time running winning 31 of 50 states with absoulte majority of the popular vote. Dont be pissed of at me cause we live in country filled with morons.
muhls 1 year ago
ron paul is great! full support from germany! ;-)
Prohumani 1 year ago
general welfare, and interstate commerce can justify ANYTHING... stupid as all hell
thefakeyeti 1 year ago
As much as I like Ron Paul, this video doesn't "expose" anything. A lot is said about "the bill will cause this" and "the bill will cause that" but there is no real information provided here that says what exactly it is that is in this bill that will cause or lead to such claims.
drumdaddy6981 1 year ago
That confirms it, anyone associated with FOX has ZERO credibility in my book. The media are the eyes and ears of the propogandists whom ruined this world for their own selfish interests.
babybluesnowden 1 year ago
Dr. Paul - Judge Napolitano 2012!!!!
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LetFreedomRlng 1 year ago 2
Nobody can prove I'll ever have a need for insurance, so you have no burden.
Then we have Civil Courts for redress of any financial grievance you or a hospital may have.
blummedia 1 year ago
And the health care bill that just passed is a complete letdown, by the way. Between the actions of Democrats and Republicans, it has now been pecked to death and there are only a few good things left in it. It still doesn't address the problem.
It's also a handout to the insurance companies, who need to go out of business, not get more customers.
PurpleHoneyBear 1 year ago
But you're not allowed to talk about these things without being attacked. That's because people have been propagandized to the point where they've just stopped learning. If anyone actually looks up the statistics they will see the difference between the two models. And Canada is NOT the best representative. France is a much better example, and yeah they have debt. So what? the US has a lot of debt for the same reason and some others. Like two wars for example. Whatever happened to priorities?
PurpleHoneyBear 1 year ago
They won't get anywhere by bashing the Canadian health care system because it's a better functioning and cheaper system. So it works for a while until people actually look up the statistics and actually talk to someone who knows about these things.
So I do take offense to an extent, but oh well. I also take offense to gay bashing and various other actions by the right wing cultural supremacists. They don't know that it's okay to have variety and still retain meaning in your own culture.
PurpleHoneyBear 1 year ago
There are so many bad things that come along with the right wing. So many good ideas get drowned out by crazy racists, homophobes and cultural supremacists who have been brainwashed into believing that government is always the problem.
I'm politically much different from Ron Paul on domestic issues. It makes sense since I'm Canadian. I'm not enslaved, I'm not complaining about my health care. I get care in a timely and quality manner and there's no insurance company ruining my life.
PurpleHoneyBear 1 year ago
Health is first of all in your food. By different spending, different and less eating America could get healthier. And spending less. So healthier people don't need coloured containers with all kind of expansive patented substances in it.
TerrierBram 1 year ago
1:13
I didn't know Gary Coleman (2nd from left) was invited to the Last Supper.
Is he the new Mandatory Anthrax Vaccine Czar?
jag10 1 year ago
LOL!!!
anxietydeath 1 year ago
looks like i'm gonna have to start printing more of my own money to pay for my healthcare.
lucifuehrer 1 year ago 2
Fuck Obama n Illuminatis! All About RP!!
JvPaVp 1 year ago 3
Ron Paul 2012. Revolution has just started.
Shohadaku 1 year ago 3