Just as you say that there was a wave from the Mid east and Berber to the north shores of the Mediterranean ....... there was probably a much bigger wave of Dna coming from Western and Northern Europe to Algeria and the other Berber States throughout the Post Roman period ..... Europe supplied a huge number of slaves (down the Slavic rivers) to all the slave markets throughout the Islamic Caliphate and to all the Berber ports ... often the busiest places for European influx.
.... and don't forget all the Celtic mercenary warriors from Galatia in Turkey who organised alliances with Northern Italy Celts and who fought for Carthage against Rome with Hannibal ........ who also have a lot in common musically with the Celtic imprint left all over Eastern Europe, the Baltic, Anatolia, and the Mediterranean ..... similar in dance also in some weird ways ... sometimes you can't tell the music apart either! Not even today after 75 generations of shared history and glory!
This is really nice ..... great Berber music and great Berber dance ........ Berbers were around long before Islam ever arrived ....... this culture is older than and does not originally have much to do with Arabs or Islam ; seafaring Mefiterranean and nomadic traditions all combined in some way to make it as distinct as it is . The women have traditionally been equal to men and also free to dance and go about their business ....... and lead men too. The men needed the veils ... not the women.
Northern African culture and genetic is a mix integrating the Berber matrifocal substrate, islamized and arabized during the Middle Age.
Also tribes with Jewish ancestors (I mean Jewish as a religion, not the people - because it's not true that each Jew is a Jew... yes yes !) and other from Subsaharian origins contributed to the Northern African melting-pot.
And yes: the most ancient Sicilian inhabitants, like many other Mediterranean ancient peoples, were of the same blood as the Berbers now are... DNA tests recently proved it.
But if I am not wrong, the steps of the woman are pure sirtaki more than usual raqs sharqi... Maybe this kind of dance was typical from the Mediterranean area, and the Greek sirtaki just one of its local developments...
There is also some similarity with traditional Sicilian dances.
It's not a surprise that Sicily traditions are strictly connected to the Arabic ones: 3/4 of Sicilian people have Arabic roots. And they share a widely extended Mediterranean culture.
@Jazeera1973 Well...my great grandmother comes from Polermo, Sicily and her husband from somewhere in Spain... I have felt so connected to the Mediterranean cultures... and this has to be why...only until recently, as I said, did I make the connection that the Arabic connection to Sicily must be why. :) I would really like to learn more and more.
Ooh that's soo interested that 3/4 of Sicilians have Arabic roots! I got chills when I read that, seriously!
@NawticJ, as I wrote in the upper comment, the ancient inhabitants of Sicily were of the same blood as the actual Berbers - and such peoples occupied a large area of the Mediterran, European and Middle Eastern area. The effect of this thousands & thousands years long settlements are still visible still now - in our DNA and in our culture too - which shows incredible similarities from Andalusia to Palestine...
@NawticJ, in the Middle Age Sicily turned to be a part of the Islamic Caliphate. It got a exceedingly intensive immigration from North Africa (Berbers islamized and arabized, Arabs with proper semitic roots - but mainly Berbers). These people are our major ancestors now. Anyway, when they arrived to Sicily, they find a place where the "aboriginal" inhabitants shared indeed many of their traditions, despite they had been formerly romanized.
@NawticJ - so you can imagine two big "waves" of immigration to Sicily - and both more or less genetically (and culturally) similar.
The first right after the Ice Age (Neolithic), the second at the beginning of the Middle Age - though these last people were islamized, their Islam was integrated on the ancient life-styles and traditions.
@Jazeera1973 Very very interesting...amazing how we are connected...thanks for that info ji. :) I have not been to Sicily, but I desire to go there very much. It will be interesting to see how I feel visiting that land. :)
And fir you guys who say its digusting look at girls from where you come from. All slags; whores; bitches.... You get the idea. And you dont think thats digusting
i think u people are too stiff, i don't think u should be so judgmental on the woman dancing, i'm African ( Ethiopian and Tuareg and mixed American ) and i see nothing wrong with it, its not like she's doing anything nasty
dont come back to libya haaa pftt u have obviously never left libya at least i have culture and decency. people like u who live libya and want to be stuck in the bloody stone age is the reason no one comes to libya and why so many have left. i can tell by the tone of ur comment that ur a piece of shit and u actually make me want to vomit. now go back to ur farm u animal bye bye now
dude this is a traditional libyan dance if u cant embrace ur own traditions than get of this post i am a muslim and she is not doing anything rong now seriously grow up
I used to live in Libya for 17 years.I consider myself as a Libyan.I love Libya.But i don't support ladies dancing in front of so many Guys.which is totally Haram for us muslims.Muslims should agree with me.
shut the fuck up, and please don't come back to Libya.... we don't want any stupid people like u... if muslim countries r so fucking destroyed is beacause there are many people like u....
انا معك ان هذا غلط ..لكن بالله وين هذا من يلي يسووه العرب علي النت ومنهم بلدك شوف مقاطع بلدك وبنات بلدك علي النت وفي الطبيعة انصحهم قبل الاقربون اولا بالمعروف ..اقسم بالله ليبيا اشرف بلد عربي
This a fabulous video...throughly enjoyed the elegance and the rythm of this group. people need to chill and look beyond religion, politics and the BS poisining their minds. I am not even libyan - I am moroccan and absolutly loved the video. thanks for posting
اكثر نسبة من المجاهدين في سبيل الله في العراق السعوديةوبعدها ليبيا , ومعظم المجاهدين الليبيين من شباب درنه وهم اللذين يمثلون درنه واهلها وليس من اللذين يرقصون معى امراه( ان شاء الله ربي يهديهم ).
يا أخي كان اجدادنا فعلوا اشياء لاترضي الله ورسوله نتبعهم ,لالالا أخي , تعلم منهم العزة والشهامة والرجلة وصلة الرحم .....الخ.
this is a traditional folkloric, i agree with you in certain point, but still people keep singing, dancing, etc... even during the wars... you don't have to feel shame because of men dancing with a woman, look at it from other corner... it's nice ... I'm not from there but I'm proud to be Libyan & love to keep our traditional till the last generation... I just want to share my point. thanks
by such a behavior all participants all of this ugly discussion spoil the attitude towards Arabs,,,, Please, consider this....I am holding a university degree on Arabic culture.... and I love it...but many of you simply make people think that all Arabs are like you....shame on you...
wallahi, ya nas.......i NEVER expected such a discussion to eppear here under this post of mine and this video taken by me personally while in Libya..... didnt expect such hatred towards each other and curses.... it is very sad , indeed....
ياأخــــي لايجوز اللعن !!قال عليه السلام(لعن المسلم كقتله)(متفق عليه) (لاينبغي لصديق أن يكون لعانا)(أخرجه مسلم) (لايكون اللعانون شهداء ولاشفعاء يوم القيامة)(مسلم) (إن العبدإذا لعن شيئا صعدت اللعنة إلى السماء فتغلق أبواب السماء دونهاثم تهبط إلى الأرض ثم تأخذيميناأويسارافإذا لم تجدمساغارجعت للذي لعن فإن كان أهلا وإلارجعت إلى صاحبــــــــــــــها)(أخرجه أبوداود وهوصحيح لغيره) ولاحول ولاقوة إلا بالله.
ياجماعة والله العظيم الليبيين الا مثقفين ومندري من هما الي يكتبو هالكلام في النت صدقوني نصهم عائدون ومش من ليبيا اصلهم والي يكتب الكلام هذا مش ولد اصل وشكرا خوي هذا ترات اجدادنا وبارك الله فيك
عيب ان تطعن في اهل درنة فهم والله نعم الرجال وهم من اول المناطق التي قارعت وناطحت كلب سرت وكانو والله نعم الرجال والاهل مثلهم مثل اهل بنغازي وانت لاتعبر عن اهل الشرق بل عن سؤ خلقك وتربيتك بالله كيف تقدح في ارض الرجال ...
مش حاننزل لمستواك وانرد عالكلام امتاعك بزيه لأن كل واحد يحكي بأصله ومعدن الانسان ايبان من المنطق امتاعه انا فتحت ملفك وعرفت انك من بنغازي وانا جايها ايش كمين مره وشهاده ان فيها تريس وياريت اتجينا في درنه بيش تعرف ناسها واصلهم
lovelovelove this!
maryamiscoolz 1 week ago
very nice
Olala182 1 month ago
at the end of this video i was waiting for one of them to explode....
sockeyekiller7 8 months ago
I love you Libya. nice people beautiful culture.
MrAussiman 1 year ago
Is this the GAY school??
Joemactheman 1 year ago
@Joemactheman Haahaa funny.
Not.
Seriously why watch "gay" videos and comment if you dont like it.
09soosoo 1 year ago
Just as you say that there was a wave from the Mid east and Berber to the north shores of the Mediterranean ....... there was probably a much bigger wave of Dna coming from Western and Northern Europe to Algeria and the other Berber States throughout the Post Roman period ..... Europe supplied a huge number of slaves (down the Slavic rivers) to all the slave markets throughout the Islamic Caliphate and to all the Berber ports ... often the busiest places for European influx.
TheDakinimoon 1 year ago
.... and don't forget all the Celtic mercenary warriors from Galatia in Turkey who organised alliances with Northern Italy Celts and who fought for Carthage against Rome with Hannibal ........ who also have a lot in common musically with the Celtic imprint left all over Eastern Europe, the Baltic, Anatolia, and the Mediterranean ..... similar in dance also in some weird ways ... sometimes you can't tell the music apart either! Not even today after 75 generations of shared history and glory!
TheDakinimoon 1 year ago
@TheDakinimoon, I imagine we share a very similar cultural perspective.
Blessed be the Mother.
Jazeera1973 1 year ago
This is really nice ..... great Berber music and great Berber dance ........ Berbers were around long before Islam ever arrived ....... this culture is older than and does not originally have much to do with Arabs or Islam ; seafaring Mefiterranean and nomadic traditions all combined in some way to make it as distinct as it is . The women have traditionally been equal to men and also free to dance and go about their business ....... and lead men too. The men needed the veils ... not the women.
TheDakinimoon 1 year ago
@TheDakinimoon, you're perfectly right.
Northern African culture and genetic is a mix integrating the Berber matrifocal substrate, islamized and arabized during the Middle Age.
Also tribes with Jewish ancestors (I mean Jewish as a religion, not the people - because it's not true that each Jew is a Jew... yes yes !) and other from Subsaharian origins contributed to the Northern African melting-pot.
Jazeera1973 1 year ago
And yes: the most ancient Sicilian inhabitants, like many other Mediterranean ancient peoples, were of the same blood as the Berbers now are... DNA tests recently proved it.
Jazeera1973 1 year ago
@TheDakinimoon
Therfore in Libya their is only 3% berber...
UfatmeSkinny 1 year ago
Amazing !
I love it.
But if I am not wrong, the steps of the woman are pure sirtaki more than usual raqs sharqi... Maybe this kind of dance was typical from the Mediterranean area, and the Greek sirtaki just one of its local developments...
There is also some similarity with traditional Sicilian dances.
Anyway... great.
Jazeera1973 1 year ago
@Jazeera1973 Yes my family comes from Sicily...never realized its degree of connection w/arabic cultures...
NawticJ 1 year ago
@NawticJ, it's great !
Where is your family exactly from ?
It's not a surprise that Sicily traditions are strictly connected to the Arabic ones: 3/4 of Sicilian people have Arabic roots. And they share a widely extended Mediterranean culture.
Jazeera1973 1 year ago
@Jazeera1973 Well...my great grandmother comes from Polermo, Sicily and her husband from somewhere in Spain... I have felt so connected to the Mediterranean cultures... and this has to be why...only until recently, as I said, did I make the connection that the Arabic connection to Sicily must be why. :) I would really like to learn more and more.
Ooh that's soo interested that 3/4 of Sicilians have Arabic roots! I got chills when I read that, seriously!
NawticJ 1 year ago
@NawticJ, as I wrote in the upper comment, the ancient inhabitants of Sicily were of the same blood as the actual Berbers - and such peoples occupied a large area of the Mediterran, European and Middle Eastern area. The effect of this thousands & thousands years long settlements are still visible still now - in our DNA and in our culture too - which shows incredible similarities from Andalusia to Palestine...
Jazeera1973 1 year ago
@NawticJ, in the Middle Age Sicily turned to be a part of the Islamic Caliphate. It got a exceedingly intensive immigration from North Africa (Berbers islamized and arabized, Arabs with proper semitic roots - but mainly Berbers). These people are our major ancestors now. Anyway, when they arrived to Sicily, they find a place where the "aboriginal" inhabitants shared indeed many of their traditions, despite they had been formerly romanized.
Jazeera1973 1 year ago
@Jazeera1973 Are you Sicilian?
NawticJ 1 year ago
@NawticJ , Yes, from Catania (east coast).
Jazeera1973 1 year ago
@NawticJ - so you can imagine two big "waves" of immigration to Sicily - and both more or less genetically (and culturally) similar.
The first right after the Ice Age (Neolithic), the second at the beginning of the Middle Age - though these last people were islamized, their Islam was integrated on the ancient life-styles and traditions.
Jazeera1973 1 year ago
@NawticJ, and yes: all this is so evident in Palermo !
Have you ever been there ?
I am from Catania - on the opposite coast-line.
It's fantastic you feel so intensely this connection with your past.
Jazeera1973 1 year ago
@Jazeera1973 Very very interesting...amazing how we are connected...thanks for that info ji. :) I have not been to Sicily, but I desire to go there very much. It will be interesting to see how I feel visiting that land. :)
NawticJ 1 year ago
You're welcome :)
I believe you'd find many interesting things here !
If you need some information, just ask me.
Jazeera1973 1 year ago
@Jazeera1973 Thanks I definitely will, and sorry I missed where you already said you are from Sicily. :)
NawticJ 1 year ago
No worry ;)
Jazeera1973 1 year ago
I HATE LIBYAN PERIOD
101nanotechnology 1 year ago
I think its great. I am libyan myself.
And fir you guys who say its digusting look at girls from where you come from. All slags; whores; bitches.... You get the idea. And you dont think thats digusting
LMFAO improving your life is a good step forward.
09soosoo 1 year ago
I am Libyan and hate this shit... just a bunch of idiots got nothing to do really.
KernelThread 1 year ago
this is like a 50 sec clip of their dance & ur judging?? thatssss stupid, from what i see i love it ;)
libyanbunnyyy 1 year ago
@libyanbunnyyy Well, I find it stupid dancing like that!
KernelThread 1 year ago
@KernelThread I am. Don't get me wrong, I do like the Libyan Music a lot, but not this one lol..
KernelThread 1 year ago
@KernelThread welll r u even libyan??
libyanbunnyyy 1 year ago
يحى على امه حى ياوووو يحى على امكم حى
121suno 1 year ago
i think u people are too stiff, i don't think u should be so judgmental on the woman dancing, i'm African ( Ethiopian and Tuareg and mixed American ) and i see nothing wrong with it, its not like she's doing anything nasty
starRavenCraft 1 year ago
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smhaa1 2 years ago
dont come back to libya haaa pftt u have obviously never left libya at least i have culture and decency. people like u who live libya and want to be stuck in the bloody stone age is the reason no one comes to libya and why so many have left. i can tell by the tone of ur comment that ur a piece of shit and u actually make me want to vomit. now go back to ur farm u animal bye bye now
smhaa1 2 years ago
nice but i hate this art L0l
hatem0917907773 2 years ago
Very beautiful.. but why so short???
I'd like watching more!!!
claucieni 2 years ago
dude this is a traditional libyan dance if u cant embrace ur own traditions than get of this post i am a muslim and she is not doing anything rong now seriously grow up
smhaa1 2 years ago
very great bcs my city libya tripoli
libya123456789 2 years ago
luv the music the dance is hektik
egyptian2nv 2 years ago
i actually love it...no joke, the dance, the men, the lady ..the drums...love itt
LibyanKitty1415 2 years ago
احنا الشراقة قدمنا قوافل الشهداء فى العراق وافغنستان وليبيا
ولنا الشرف مذابح القذافى كلها فى شرق ليبيا
موتو بقهركم.
عاشت بنغازى ودرنة واجدابيا والبيضاء لكم الشرف عدد شهداء مذبحة بوسليم كلها من هذه المدن الاربعة
avir32568 2 years ago
yh i agree wid u lool
am libyan 22
nom1flower 2 years ago
هذا فلكلور شعبي وكل دولة عندها فن شعبي مع انني طبعا ضد الرقص لانه حرام شرعا .
والجماعة اللي يشتمو كل واحد عليه يشوف بلده ومقاطع بنات بلده وبعدها يتكلم
محدش يتجرء على شرق ليبيا لنا الشرف اول من وقف فى وجه دجال سرت هم احنا الشراقة
avir32568 2 years ago
i agree with u guys about the girl dancing in front of men........... but i still love this video lol!
libyanbunnyyy 2 years ago
I am from Bangladesh....are you from Libya?
rudhro8330 3 years ago
I used to live in Libya for 17 years.I consider myself as a Libyan.I love Libya.But i don't support ladies dancing in front of so many Guys.which is totally Haram for us muslims.Muslims should agree with me.
rudhro8330 3 years ago
Be cool. She isn't doing anything wrong.
irishxxkelt 3 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
well, actually she is :)
Samantha2213 2 years ago
Ah lighten up,will you? They are not doing anything wrong.
irishxxkelt 2 years ago
shut the fuck up, and please don't come back to Libya.... we don't want any stupid people like u... if muslim countries r so fucking destroyed is beacause there are many people like u....
bobbe9491 2 years ago
ما ادري هل انت صاحب هذا الفيديو اللعين
اللعن هنا علي الفسقة المجاهريين بفسقهم وتلك الفاسقة التى ترقص بين الرجال وايشاعة الفاحشة بين الذين امنو اشد اثما وفحشا
فإياك اياك وتب وامسح هذا البلاء فباب التوبة مفتوح ولاتغتر بطول العمر فا الموت بغتة
aliali2233 3 years ago
انا معك ان هذا غلط ..لكن بالله وين هذا من يلي يسووه العرب علي النت ومنهم بلدك شوف مقاطع بلدك وبنات بلدك علي النت وفي الطبيعة انصحهم قبل الاقربون اولا بالمعروف ..اقسم بالله ليبيا اشرف بلد عربي
NaSsErLiBYAn 3 years ago
take it easy , man
Libyanproudgirl 2 years ago
reaaaaaalllly wana c the full vid tho
shnugz786 3 years ago
love it
shnugz786 3 years ago
واللعن جائز اذا كان في مكانه
والنبي صلي الله عليه وسلم لعن لعن الخمر ولعن فيها عشر ولعن رعل وذكوان واقر النبي صلي الله عليه وسلم الصحابة عندما لعنو الذي اذي جاره
aliali2233 3 years ago
صح هدا كله عنه عليه السلام ...بس وين اللعن اللي بينطبق هنا؟
RTLABC 3 years ago
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watisapotato 3 years ago
فيديو جميل جداً
تمنيت ان يكون اطول!
wowuou 3 years ago
This a fabulous video...throughly enjoyed the elegance and the rythm of this group. people need to chill and look beyond religion, politics and the BS poisining their minds. I am not even libyan - I am moroccan and absolutly loved the video. thanks for posting
kamal4941 3 years ago
ohhhh forrr FLIPPP SAKKEEEE!!! we allll libyanz man..stoppp cursinggg eachotherrrr...u guys r too pathetic!
LibyanGrl91 3 years ago
This is so nice i like the way they dress u guys should be proud of ur country .
marwa77 3 years ago
اكثر نسبة من المجاهدين في سبيل الله في العراق السعوديةوبعدها ليبيا , ومعظم المجاهدين الليبيين من شباب درنه وهم اللذين يمثلون درنه واهلها وليس من اللذين يرقصون معى امراه( ان شاء الله ربي يهديهم ).
يا أخي كان اجدادنا فعلوا اشياء لاترضي الله ورسوله نتبعهم ,لالالا أخي , تعلم منهم العزة والشهامة والرجلة وصلة الرحم .....الخ.
mak575 3 years ago 8
@mak575
this is a traditional folkloric, i agree with you in certain point, but still people keep singing, dancing, etc... even during the wars... you don't have to feel shame because of men dancing with a woman, look at it from other corner... it's nice ... I'm not from there but I'm proud to be Libyan & love to keep our traditional till the last generation... I just want to share my point. thanks
vivoviva 1 year ago
by such a behavior all participants all of this ugly discussion spoil the attitude towards Arabs,,,, Please, consider this....I am holding a university degree on Arabic culture.... and I love it...but many of you simply make people think that all Arabs are like you....shame on you...
tuwareg 3 years ago
@tuwareg
get lost babe. what happening in russia or wherever is worse that what u see here.
hatred is everywhere and between lots of ppl (intra or inter).
drug98 1 year ago
wallahi, ya nas.......i NEVER expected such a discussion to eppear here under this post of mine and this video taken by me personally while in Libya..... didnt expect such hatred towards each other and curses.... it is very sad , indeed....
tuwareg 3 years ago 2
الشعب الليبي شعب طيب واصيل ولكن يحكمة مجنون عضمة وعظام وزعيم للثورة والثيران
fesssal 3 years ago
لعنة الله عليكم!
asgoasgo77 3 years ago
ياأخــــي لايجوز اللعن !!قال عليه السلام(لعن المسلم كقتله)(متفق عليه) (لاينبغي لصديق أن يكون لعانا)(أخرجه مسلم) (لايكون اللعانون شهداء ولاشفعاء يوم القيامة)(مسلم) (إن العبدإذا لعن شيئا صعدت اللعنة إلى السماء فتغلق أبواب السماء دونهاثم تهبط إلى الأرض ثم تأخذيميناأويسارافإذا لم تجدمساغارجعت للذي لعن فإن كان أهلا وإلارجعت إلى صاحبــــــــــــــها)(أخرجه أبوداود وهوصحيح لغيره) ولاحول ولاقوة إلا بالله.
RTLABC 3 years ago
الاخ الي اسمة ساليكس توا جاي اتكلم عن الاسلام غير شد الي عندك الي يسمعك يقول انت وهلك ماتفارقو فالجامع لاليل لانهار
m6a2kh2 4 years ago
ياجماعة والله العظيم الليبيين الا مثقفين ومندري من هما الي يكتبو هالكلام في النت صدقوني نصهم عائدون ومش من ليبيا اصلهم والي يكتب الكلام هذا مش ولد اصل وشكرا خوي هذا ترات اجدادنا وبارك الله فيك
wwaavvvv 4 years ago
what is this song called
sohairx33 4 years ago
frombenghazi/ salexxxx /libdaluv1991/u r fucking guys and bad their self and u don't know what is about Libyan music..
تصدقوا بالله انكم حيوانات وكلاب ولا تحشموا على وجوهكم اعرفو درنه كويس وبالعقل اذا كان عندكم
dernalibya 4 years ago
i think the libyan poeple refuse like these videos so you do something bad
alawaj2 4 years ago
تي عيب تحشمو حشمتو بينا قدام العرب
alitaheraliibrahim 4 years ago
و هل هذه المرأة التي ترقص وسط جمع الرجال من الاسلام في شئ يا درناوي ؟؟ أين انتم من الاسلام
فعلا تبوا فتح اسلامي جديد يا بدو
salexxxx 4 years ago
عيب ان تطعن في اهل درنة فهم والله نعم الرجال وهم من اول المناطق التي قارعت وناطحت كلب سرت وكانو والله نعم الرجال والاهل مثلهم مثل اهل بنغازي وانت لاتعبر عن اهل الشرق بل عن سؤ خلقك وتربيتك بالله كيف تقدح في ارض الرجال ...
piptit27 4 years ago 3
woow this is gr8
libdaluv1991 4 years ago
من هم عرب درنه؟كمشه من الجوازاي واولاد على وعاهرة مصريه--الله الله --الفاتح جا وفتحكم فتحت المفتوحات يلى انفتخن بلاا مفتاح
frombenghazi 4 years ago
مش حاننزل لمستواك وانرد عالكلام امتاعك بزيه لأن كل واحد يحكي بأصله ومعدن الانسان ايبان من المنطق امتاعه انا فتحت ملفك وعرفت انك من بنغازي وانا جايها ايش كمين مره وشهاده ان فيها تريس وياريت اتجينا في درنه بيش تعرف ناسها واصلهم
abubaker100100 4 years ago 2
فرقة درنه للفنون الشعبيه
ramongate 4 years ago
Nice dance but it's from the east of Libya
TAR3K 4 years ago
منور يا راسسسسسسس
alliddin1234567890 4 years ago