How to make potassium perchlorate (from matches)

[eSeCrAzYdEl713]

do you have to use distilled water?

[vinegarypoo]

Wow, can't believe things like this are allowed on the internet lol! Be careful people

[CertifiedBad4ss]

Why do you have to use non safety matches? As far as I know regular safety matches have potassium chlorate as well?

[chisooguitar]

Could anyone tell me if I'd get the same results if i mix potassium chlorate powder with hydrogen peroxide (3%) and boiled it down? If it did work this way there wouldn't be as much contaminants correct?

[CrEaTiVePyroScience]

@chisooguitar Well I think that it should work, you should atleast give it a go and see! As far as I know , if you buy any hydrogen peroxide solution it should only be composed of hydrogen peroxide and water. (30% hydrogen peroxide , 70% water) (3% HP , 97 % H2O) You should be able to boil down the excess water at the end. But be aware that you have to keep the ratio ! 100ml 3% HP = 10ml 30% HP) In some countries you can only obtain 3% and not 30% due safety precautions , I think.

[bytmeh]

i bet hes shoved a test tube up his ass before

[TheChemistrySceinse]

you cannot make potassium perchlorate from H2O2 and KClO3 unless the souliton was acidified. you would pruduce: KClO3+3H2O2----->KCl+3H2O+3O2

[labchemo]

I have this stuff and can sell (only to EU)

[Jehosafath]

Hi chemlife, let me tell you that is good video. So i want to ask you something.

1º When you filter the red solution (with the objective to move round the impurities and the matches) did you add hydrogen peroxide? How many?

2º What is the problem if i use hydrogen peroxide 30% or 3%?

3º And finally the clear boiling solution in the minute 1:10 is hydrogen peroxide or the potassium clorate solution?.

Well I hope your soon response!

Jehosafath.

[CrEaTiVePyroScience]

@Jehosafath Well I can answer one question , your second one. Hydrogen peroxide 30% that you can buy contains 30% hydrogen peroxide and 70 % water and the 3% version contains 97water and 3 hydrogen peroxide. The answer is quite simple: You have to add the same amount of hydrogen peroxide, the rest of the water will be evaporated.So if you have to add 100ml of hydrogen peroxide 30 % ,you can use 1L of hydrogen peroxide 3% instead and boil off the water at the end. 3% Is easier to get.

[kookumba94]

but I'm pretty sure that safety matches contain potassium chlorate as well, they need to. As to whether the amount is the same as non safety matches im not sure but im positive that there is KClO3 in safety matches so can we use them?

[CrEaTiVePyroScience]

@kookumba94 There is KCIO3 in safety matches! (+glass, +arabic gum)

[AlienUFOEncounters]

you can get vol 40 clear developer (%12 peroxide) at sallys beauty supply , strongest over the counter you can get

[Anthony82949]

Where can you get hydrogen peroxide?

[SWEETAgirl20]

@Anthony82949 Drugstore.

[Sb01343]

I would use safety matches because they contain no phosphor because the phosphor is on the box you strike.

[koolness73]

no i thinks its meant to be phosphouirs sequifie... and chemlife plz tell me do you boil water first or add hydrogen peroxide firrst?

[Palizasadomicilio]

First of all, hats off to the chemlife! Are you sure the red coloration is due to phosphorus? Or is it a phosphorus compound? The elemental (red) phosphorus is on the match strikers! Have a nice day!

[koolness73]

hey chemlife do you boil the water down first or do you add the hydrogen peroxide first then boil?

[koolness73]

i know this chemlife honestly i do but i was just curious becuz i dont have any matches that are red that arnt safety and also safety matches have potas chlorate as well

[koolness73]

the chemlife are you sure your not using safety matches? becuz i cant find any not safety matches that are red

[TheChemlife]

@koolness73 ok lemme explain the difference because a lot of people are asking the same thing. safety matches require the use of the box or book they cam from in order to light. nonsaftey matches is just another term for strike anywhere matches or the kind that dont need the box to light.

[Stray03]

@koolness73 Redbird matches, strike anywhere red with a white tip.

[koolness73]

hey dude it really looks like your using safety matches cuz i dont have and matches that are red but arnt safety

[Agentoxedo07]

Holy-Terrorist:>*=* distillation of ebullition of bleach(NaClO) make sodium chlorate(NaClO3) and sodium chloride(NaCl) for other stuff, low ebullition with desiccation is stuff for make remover water(H2O) and liquid sodium hypochlorite(NaClO) and dont know is insoluble in water of big sodium hypochlorite(NaClO)!

of the potassium hypochlorite(KClO)?

Impossible to post in other video (Bleach and Hydrogen Peroxide Reaction) of comment, sorry for spams!

[Agentoxedo07]

Holy-Terrorist:>*=* with other video, the sodium hypochlorite(NaClO) and hydrogen peroxide(H2O2) is fast reaction make sodium chloride(NaCl) and water(H2O) and dioxygen(O2) of difference with hypochlorite ion(ClO-), in this video /watch?v=yfngx-3FugM

sodium hypochlorite(NaClO) is liquid salt pure is explosive comburant!

potassium hypochlorite(KClO) is other salt dont know is liquid, NaClO + KOH = KClO + NaOH

I speaking french and little english.

[MrAtomical]

i was just wondering... how can you keep potassium chlorate and sulphur safe..? is it really that unstable

[Agentoxedo07]

@MrAtomical Holy-Terrorist:>*=* is the antimony trisulfide(Sb2S3) of using or other combustible substance!

Of reason of haves presence of sulfur dioxide(SO2) of deflagration of matches!

I speaking french and little english.

[MrAtomical]

where do you get that alchahol shit, and why can i only find urea in instant cold packs instead of nh4no3, and finally, could you use potassium chlorate or potassium perchlorate as an oxidising subsitute for black powder. thanks

[TheChemlife]

@MrAtomical ok lets answer that in order. first the alcohol can be bought at any drug store. second usually no name brand has ammonium nitrate instead of urea or look for ones that get cold but not like super cold. and finally no potassium perchlorate is way more reactive then regular black powder (if you mix it with something else) and they use it to shoot fireworks into the air or for flash powder.

[98JMA]

Can you use any alcohol in place of the isopropyl, such as methyl/ethyl/butyl?

[TheChemlife]

@98JMA im not sure but i don't know why you'd need to. isopropyl alcohol is easy to get at any drug store

[98JMA]

@TheChemlife

Well, the problem is that I'm UK based and it isn't as easy to get such items here from pharmacies.

[jizwhale]

@TheChemlife how much hydrogen peroxide do you put into the solution

[lvfds107]

Hi, nice video. I found some magnesium perchlorate at my work place and wondering how can i make this into potassium perchlorate? plz respond . thx

[Agentoxedo07]

Holy-Terrorist:>*=* i tryed this with parent dont know!

of coffe glass, not metal recipient may cause oxidation!

i try just deflagration of potassium chlorate(KClO3) in the place for wood burning!

i speaking french and little english

i comment for this video (Extracting Potassium Chlorate From Safety Matches!) of website /watch?v=gcq7R9IMDU8

[Agentoxedo07]

Holy-Terrorist:>*=* KClO3 + H2O2 => KClO4 + H2O

of using hydrogen peroxide in 3%-30%

*=* Very cool stuff!

[tuipale]

This will also work if used Potassium chlorate from electrolysis. All you do is follow the video to 1:07 Remember to use 5-10ml of peroxide per 1 gram of chlorate.

[Sypchik007]

THIS REACTION DOESNT WORK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[TheChemlife]

@Sypchik007 it doesn't not work. the yield is just insanely low so it may apear not to work

[TheTrueSong]

Nice to see videos from ChemLife, it's a well known and trusted channel :D keep it up :P

[petriots]

Hi. Thankz for the quick reply. Please tell me i have postasium chlorate is there any way to make KCLO4 without double Decom of NACLO4 and KCL or Electrolysis of KCL or KCLO3?

Please do reply...

[TheChemlife]

@petriots for the futur just send me a message in my inbox. you would need an oxygen donner to add an extra oxygen atom to make it into perchlorate. i can't give you this answer yet because i haven't been able to test this out myself. however, it is one of the things i will be working on and if i find something i'll post a video

[petriots]

Hi Thechemlife. Nice video please can you tell me they why the product of reactent is not a balanced equation in L.H.S reactent have 5 oxygen atom but in R.H.S oxygen have 6 atom...

Do really KCLO4 formed or it was just KCLO3 ? please reply.

[TheChemlife]

@petriots this reaction is more of a proof of concept than anything else. it is an incomplete reaction and will not balance because of how many different contaminats are in the solution because of the matches and such. a VERY small amount of perchlorate is formed but the rest is just chlorate. i will be repeating this experiment in the futur and it will be properly balanced and a lot cleaner and without matches and peroxide.

[laughomaniac]

Quick question, is that like a vacuum pump at the end?

[TheChemlife]

@laughomaniac ya i was using vacuum filtration

[theman2160]

@TheChemlife why do i need to add the alcohol to the solution of hydrogen peroxide and potassium perclorate? plz respond!

[TheChemlife]

@theman2160 because the perchlorate isn't soluble in alcohol so it will come out of solution

[megamarko94]

Can I dissolve potassium chlorate in water than add hydrogen peroxide would that give me kclo4

[TheChemlife]

@megamarko94 if you do try that use minimul water and 30+% peroxide

[DoktorKlawonn]

Your presentation is very well and I like the really cool intro. However there are some remarks:

1. KClO3 would not react with H2O2 to form KClO4.

2. There's no need to add isopropyl alcohol if you boil it off afterwards.

3. At 2:18 you collect the filter cake not the filtrate and your product is KClO3 not KClO4.

[TheChemlife]

@DoktorKlawonn thanks for the feedback. i do believe however that for the massive amount that was mixed up i did produce potassium perchlorate because i watched it precipitate out when i added the alcohol. i will be redoing this experiment in my new lab with a stronger oxidizing agent to hopefully produce a better product. i may even try oxygen gas but i doubt the effectiveness of this

[BigSmallCMarshall]

i was wondering the approximate yield of potassium perchlorate you would get from 50 match heads? Thanks :)

[TheChemlife]

@BigSmallCMarshall well from 50 if you use a stronger oxidizer than h202 you should be able to acquire more but with regular pharmacy brand h202 you'd only get about a gram if that.

[siandfriendstv]

can you please give measurments?

[TheChemlife]

@siandfriendstv because of the crudeness of this experiment it's hard to give proper measurements. everything varies based on how many matches you use and how much chlorate is in the particular batch of matches. so rough estimates are the best i have because it was so crude i didn't take the time to do all the calculations. i did this just to prove it works.

[Aranwu]

So if you use Hydrogen Peroxide with Potassium Chlorate and it forms Potassium Perchlorate? It didn't work for me perhaps it was too dilute for me. Can you prove that it is actually Potassium Perchlorate by making a video. Dropping Concentrated Sulfuric Acid to your perchlorate. If it doesn't ignite it proves that it's perchlorate if it does its chlorate

[TheChemlife]

@Aranwu this method is very crude, i didn't even get enough to collect because of how little chlorate is in matches. so by the time the reaction took place there wasnt enough to collect. this method is just to explore the science i don't actually use it to make perchlorate so i don't have any of the product

[Aranwu]

@TheChemlife

Thanks for your fast reply.

I just need your confirmation that reacting chlorate and hydrogen peroxide will give perchlorate and water

[TheChemlife]

@Aranwu the best way to do that, if you have some is to just try it out yourself. im busy with hv things right now so my lab is a complete mess so i can't check for you otherwise i would

[Olao999]

Can i turn potassium chloride to potassium chlorate using hidrogen perioxide?

[echogg468]

So how does armstrong mix work when you make it from safety matches?

[echogg468]

So if I use regular matches it won't work because there's not enough potassium chlorate?

[TheChemlife]

@echogg468 no it won't work because there's NO potassium chlorate

[AustralianPyromaniac]

What would be produced if I was to use safety matches? And if so, do I need to increase the quantity of the chemicals relatively to the amount of matches?

[TheChemlife]

@AustralianPyromaniac nothing would happen because there is little to no potassium chlorate in safety matches. strike anywhere matches are easy to get so i wouldn't worry about this to much

[adriiPortillo]

holly frijoles! You did two things very wrong!

- Dont add ammonia! Ammonium chlorate is very sensitive! that thing can detonate on it's own.

- Dont use hydrogen peroxide, it is not strog enough to give a decent yield. The best oxidizer for this is potassium dichromate or sodium persulfate. Otherwise your perchlorate will be very contaminated with chlorate.

[TheChemlife]

@adriiPortillo it doesn't form ammonium chlorate, it forms ammonium phosphate.

[adriiPortillo]

Hmmm having a second look, seems that H2O2 can work verery good if you add HCl. But the ammonium chlorate thing still remans

[TheChemlife]

@adriiPortillo there's no ammonium chlorate formed. i have done testing on the batches that i have made and none is present. it would have exploded by now if it was.

[mewrox99]

The only practical way to turn chlorate to perchlorate is careful electrolysis

Also don't add ammonia unless you want to form dangerously explosive ammonium chlorate

[TheChemlife]

@mewrox99 at no point does it form ammonium chlorate and if you let it sit for a few days it slowly percipitates more products. from my 40 matches i have about 10 grams. the matches only hade about 20 grams of chlorate to start. if you use more matches you will obtain more product

[stunna47pyro]

KClO3+H2O2=KClO4+H2O2? (0:55)

WRONG!

[TheChemlife]

@stunna47pyro typo my bad, the last h2o2 was supposed to be h20

[Moviemillionare]

thanks

[AHW214]

Why do the have to be non safety. also is strike anywhere non safety

[TheChemlife]

@AHW214 they're the same thing

[AHW214]

What would I do If I wanted to keep it as KClO3 and extract it? Also I don't have NH4OH so is it absolutely necessary?

[TheChemlife]

@AHW214 it's not necessary but it helps yield a purer product because the phosphorus forms a colloide in the solution so it will contaminate the final product when you go to filter it

[uut0]

i separated all those heads(no wood in the heads at all cause of my 100% pro lego machine xD) made powder of it and accidently dropped something on it.*big fire*

[TheChemlife]

@uut0 lol you have to be very careful if you do go that route, the same thing happened to me several times so i decided to skip that bit and it worked fine