Save Our Land ! - Israel's Withdrawal Was a Mistake !

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Part 1 of 2

The withdrawal was not a mistake, it was a huge success. The purpose of the expulsion was to demoralize the National/Religious population, to dehumanize the "Right." This was a huge success. Think about it. Jews' homes today are regularly destroyed, Jews are imprisoned for months at a time without any charges filed, observant soldiers are forced to violate halachah, and it's all considered normal. Everyone sees the Right as a bunch of suckers not to associate with. (cont).

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Part 2 of 2

That's the accomplishment of the hitnatkut.

Yes, there are rockets, Hamas took over Gaza, Hizbullah has 20,000 rockets pointed a Israel, Israel is imploding... Yes, that's all true, but that's not a failure of the hitnatkut, because the hitnatkut was never about that. They knew this would happen. THEY DIDN’T CARE. They simply felt it was a price worth paying, to destroy the Nationalist/Religious sector. And boy did they succeed at that.

[jennantang]

Never happened. Now they are closer. Who thought of this? Really thought? Of course they never reached a peace amongst eachother they're are like rats and feed on.anything to get wherever they wanna go. I'll say they need not take kindness for weakness you all are bad Ass isreal. Never forget that plus u have friends. We all feel for u. I hope they grow up and realize that there gross with hatred n nobody sweats them like they do u this is there weakness.

[jennantang]

Wow why would they force you all to give the land to them? It is not like they should have.been given such treasure ! They are really filled with hatred onto a generation with absolutely nothing to do with the hatred they have. Even the ones who try claim should be hated shouldn't be hated. But it is what it is when ur bible is preaching hate. Jews should figure out a way as you have before. Very resiliant people. I am sad for the land to be traded for nothing this is the worst case. It should h

[pawel86able]

Am Yisrael Chai !!! :-)). I wish you peace ! - Loads of Love from Europe ;))

[ShokoDemon]

why demonize muslims ?

this conflict is not religoius... both sides are reacting to the horrors of war... and it is all fueled by economics :/

there is no reason for arabs and jews to hate each other :/

[Yahuda101]

@ShokoDemon It is written in the Loran, I've read it.

[ShokoDemon]

@Yahuda101 and in the Torah it says a jew must kill his enemy, his enemy's babyies and rape his enemy's wife.

what does that make you then ?

Again, this conflict is NOT religious.

[Yahuda101]

@ShokoDemon And two! As I said before many things have changed since then such as, ask yourself this, has there been any burnt offerings sent up to the Lord G-d? The examples you give are irrelevant, they are 4000 years old and no longer apply but the Koran clearly teaches Sura 2:98 On unbelievers is the curse of Allah. - Sura 2:161 Slay them wherever ye find them and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter.

[ShokoDemon]

@Yahuda101 yes, things did change from 4000 years ago. but not by much, since even to this day the fanatics on both sides are still saying that god told them to do the things they do, apparently. mind you, it's only the fanatics who say this. and not the general public. and dude, come on, do you actually think i didn't do my research?

and one more thing, as an ex-muslim, i am well aware of the death penalty on the heads of heretics and ex-muslims out there.

[ShokoDemon]

@Yahuda101 and the thing is, such behavior won't change as long as some outsider is trying to fight the muslims. social evolution needs time and peace. fighting ''violent'' islam will only make it more violent. instead, think about being kind and supportive of those who promote change and peace, man.

[Yahuda101]

@ShokoDemon (PC) Political Correctness is the social change that you are speaking of and it will be the death of the free world unless the world wakes up and see the evil we are letting in. You sound like an extremist in disguise.

[ShokoDemon]

@Yahuda101 PC? no mate, PC exists within a homogeneous group. you're trying to interfere. and you're moving away from the point at hand. i said that it's not religion that's the issue. yes muslims need to advance and rebuild from the damages of oppression and colonialism (go look up kabul 40 years ago) and they WILL become secular "again" soon! the "israpalestinian" issue will be resolved soon through peaceful means, weather the fanatics will it or not.

hopefully soon.

[ShokoDemon]

@Yahuda101 and who's killing the free world exactly? and what freedom are you speaking about ? the one mst of the world doesn't enjoy? look at africa dude, look at asia... where is that freedom that's being threatened?

if anything, there's alot of work and alot conflicts to resolve. we live in dangerous, crucial times. for all we know countless Einsteins and Feynmans are dead because of these wars and conflicts.

so again, reconsider your point of view.

[ShokoDemon]

@Yahuda101 and dude, please don't call me an extremist. i'm not calling you names, so lets not stoop to that level. otherwise this exchange is over.

[Yahuda101]

@ShokoDemon You're right, I have said what I needed to say and have no more to say on this subject.

[ShokoDemon]

@Yahuda101 and also, it's the '''jewish religion'' that is defying modern times and claiming land that a book says should be theirs ''2000 years ago''.

or at least that's how both judism and islam are being used to justify this war. you really need to do some research man. this world is alore more dangerous than you think and we should stick together, regardless of religion.

[Yahuda101]

@ShokoDemon Do some research? Maybe you should do some research because you are trying to use what you think is reason out of ignorance. During the time of Moses the Lord G-d gave all the land of Canaan to the tribes of Israel and his was commanded to kill all the inhabitnance, to include Men, women, and children. Now that was 4000 years ago and many things have happened since then. As if you didn't know! One there are no more Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and many more.

[ThLuckyOne]

Israel FOREVER!

KAFIR AND PROUD!!

[proengelsrael]

Arabs and Jews became the technologically ,

enjoy a hight standard of living, have the highest literacy rates and the lowest infant mortality.

Zionists gave a new life to the ancient Hebrew language.

Thanks to Zionism, merchants, students and peddlers came out of the ghetto to become Jewish mechanics, Jewish farmers, Jewish engineers and Jewish soldiers. WHAT is the WORK of hamaSScum ?

WHY are pallywood children MORE WORTH as Israeli kids ?

[Yahuda101]

@proengelsrael Amen brother, when will the world wake up to see the turth about the HAMAS Killers.

[proengelsrael]

I

STOP delegitimizing ISRAEL's right to exist !

Jews have been living here for over 2000 years and

the World gave them that official right to have a State - June 1947 .

ZIONISTS made the "impossible" into reality.

- The Zionists ended "the longest occupation in history" - the occupation of the land of Israel.

- Thanks to ZIONISM, glass and steel towers rose from sand dunes

[proengelsrael]

ISRAEL, GOD BLESS YOU ALL !

YOU ARE NOT ALONE,

Greetings from Germany !

[ShaiGenis]

I mean AND

[ShaiGenis]

LONG LIVE ISRAEL, LONG LIVE ISRAEL AD ALL ISRAEL HATERS NEED TO GO EAT THEIR MOM'S SH!T

[Tigertomany29]

ISRAEL FOREVER AND EVER!

[raultalbot7]

long live Israel!!!