where is the miter? the maniple? the chalice veil? lots of things are lacking. do you even understand what you are reading? you didn't even removed your zucchetto during the consecration
Keeping the purity of language, keeps the purity of meaning. Of course i could kneel down in prayer and say 'lalablalaa' and say that God knows i'm saying the Pater noster, but thats not the point. Not keeping 'linguistic exactitudes' is like saying 'Thou shalt kill' rather than saying 'Thou shalt not kill'. Don't think that cockiness makes up for ignorance.
@pax516 You change your point. No words have been ommitted or replaced . You spoke about pronunciation, which in some cases can alter meaning but not often as accents show. Please advise me of any occasion where my manner of pronunciation translates differently to the original meaning.
Very correct Latin Mass, I must admit, eventhough I am dubitative of the validity of such a Mass: We didn't do any effort to go to the Church, I do not know if it really fullfill our Sunday obligation. There is indeed also a lack in the "comunity aspect".
@donhenri01 Unless one is a recluse, everyone is embedded within a wide community continually. One's Sunday obligation should not be to attend a building but to be in Communion with God and all. Reception of the sacrament is a symbol of that which must be enacted in all life. The effort should not be in religious observance, but the practice of unconditional love.
Oh dear, oh dear. I will pray for the person from whom this comment has come, that he or she would encounter the God of love, the Christ of grace, and the Holy Spirit of sanctification.
So who can understand? The 'elite' make such comments but they are well fed elsewhere and merely drop by to cast scorn instead of love. For others, it provides a bridge across which they can pass into the care of the God without the particularities of language intruding. The elite, so preoccupied with that which is insignificant, miss the point.
Yes. At least some form of it. Notice he says mysterium fidei after the consecration of the wine, and then says salvator mundi salva nos etc. - saviour of the world save us...In the Roman Canon the mystery of faith is the eucharist. In the novus ordo it is just some sort of random proclamation usually made by the congregation - the worst being 'christ will come again' - they say that while He's on the altar!
Honestly, get a grip. "What is Mass?" please, what a silly question, or perhaps not as the case maybe, coming from the man dressed up as Roman Catholic Bishop. (with no grasp of the reubrics)
Can I ask why you feel you need to do this? I don't believe that you honestly think you are a Bishop (If you do you need seriosus help) So why all this play acting?
You were never vaildly ordained-FACT.
And no..not Queens english at the altar..(or in your case bedside table) just correct pronunciation.
have u any proof he as u put it 'never validly ordained'? I have heard alot of crap ministers priests do a lot of services where I didnt understand a word and if it hadnt been for my own knowledge I would have not known where we were in the service. I have heard Bishops get the Rubics wrong right down to the Deacon getting it wrong...
Check your facts and come back when you have grown up with full backing of all the facts and then leave a sensible comment...thats if u can!
Could you explain what is a 'valid ordination with or without Apostolicity'? I have spent 8 years as a theology and ministry student and still could not answer this polemical question....... You are clearly educated and therefore must know its an impossible and pointless question to ask....
I've sat through many a Mass ; low, high, street and latin and they are all different. Moreover I have also witnessed many differing 'ordinations' again all very different but that's the beauty of belief.
Hear? Perhaps an indication of the comment's origin. Rix is indeed a frequent visitor at traditional church where the divergence between what is spoken and what is lived descends into farce.
He obviously doesn't know what he's doing (yes, his pronunciation is awful) - he looks and sounds like a TV actor playing an Italian cardinal who learnt his part from watching TV - but I've seen worse. Funny how he does a better job than some real RC priests. After all he an ex-Church of England priest: he likes high church even though he's not sure how to do it.
Perhaps a significant question re the language, is whether you understand what is at the heart of the sacramental mystery? The answer - love......
postthehost 3 months ago
Do you think these matters are of any concern to God? Does it not worry you, that they are of concern to you?
postthehost 3 months ago
where is the miter? the maniple? the chalice veil? lots of things are lacking. do you even understand what you are reading? you didn't even removed your zucchetto during the consecration
discaleatorum 3 months ago
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discaleatorum 3 months ago
In google type ' Sancta Missa' follow the first or second option it tells you all about pronunciation, rubrics and a superior rite. Pax.
pax516 1 year ago
@pax516 Thank you for the helpful link which looks useful. I shall enjoy improving my pronunciation when I find time.
postthehost 1 year ago
Keeping the purity of language, keeps the purity of meaning. Of course i could kneel down in prayer and say 'lalablalaa' and say that God knows i'm saying the Pater noster, but thats not the point. Not keeping 'linguistic exactitudes' is like saying 'Thou shalt kill' rather than saying 'Thou shalt not kill'. Don't think that cockiness makes up for ignorance.
pax516 1 year ago
@pax516 You change your point. No words have been ommitted or replaced . You spoke about pronunciation, which in some cases can alter meaning but not often as accents show. Please advise me of any occasion where my manner of pronunciation translates differently to the original meaning.
postthehost 1 year ago
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I hope this man will study latin further, perhaps he won't keep making mistakes with pronunciation.
pax516 1 year ago
I hope this man will study latin further, perhaps he won't keep making mistakes with pronunciation.
pax516 1 year ago
@pax516 I'm sure God understands me and I'm not too worried about the religious Latin purists who chase linguistic exactitudes rather than grace.
postthehost 1 year ago
Very correct Latin Mass, I must admit, eventhough I am dubitative of the validity of such a Mass: We didn't do any effort to go to the Church, I do not know if it really fullfill our Sunday obligation. There is indeed also a lack in the "comunity aspect".
Pax et Bonum
donhenri01 1 year ago
@donhenri01 Unless one is a recluse, everyone is embedded within a wide community continually. One's Sunday obligation should not be to attend a building but to be in Communion with God and all. Reception of the sacrament is a symbol of that which must be enacted in all life. The effort should not be in religious observance, but the practice of unconditional love.
postthehost 1 year ago
Interpretation please?
postthehost 2 years ago
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Wahnsinn!
Hunding2000 2 years ago
Oh dear, oh dear. I will pray for the person from whom this comment has come, that he or she would encounter the God of love, the Christ of grace, and the Holy Spirit of sanctification.
postthehost 2 years ago
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Who is this fag? This is not a mass. He does not even know what he's doing. He is just playing dress up in a garage! I doubt he is a real priest.
cheslaw 2 years ago
Wonderful Service! I'm sure it reached and strengthened many!
chrisguy210 2 years ago
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chrisguy210 2 years ago
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I'm just...confused when watching this?
demonfoodstore 2 years ago
There are a variety of videos to try and provide resources for everyone and more being prepared. If one leaves you confused, do try another.
postthehost 2 years ago
The Holy Spirit at work in the Church and in his people to make the Body of Christ available to all in new and innovative ways.
postthehost 2 years ago
Wow. Is this guy trying to be funny? The least he can do is buy a dvd on how to say the Latin Mass as opposed to pretending to know.
cookie1054 2 years ago
So who can understand? The 'elite' make such comments but they are well fed elsewhere and merely drop by to cast scorn instead of love. For others, it provides a bridge across which they can pass into the care of the God without the particularities of language intruding. The elite, so preoccupied with that which is insignificant, miss the point.
postthehost 2 years ago
I think he is doing a Latin Novus Ordo.
dacatholicbandorgan 2 years ago
Alleluia.
postthehost 2 years ago
What for?
dacatholicbandorgan 2 years ago
Yes. At least some form of it. Notice he says mysterium fidei after the consecration of the wine, and then says salvator mundi salva nos etc. - saviour of the world save us...In the Roman Canon the mystery of faith is the eucharist. In the novus ordo it is just some sort of random proclamation usually made by the congregation - the worst being 'christ will come again' - they say that while He's on the altar!
demonfoodstore 2 years ago
not the best mass but not bad
SitonLeatherSofa 2 years ago
Honestly, get a grip. "What is Mass?" please, what a silly question, or perhaps not as the case maybe, coming from the man dressed up as Roman Catholic Bishop. (with no grasp of the reubrics)
Can I ask why you feel you need to do this? I don't believe that you honestly think you are a Bishop (If you do you need seriosus help) So why all this play acting?
You were never vaildly ordained-FACT.
And no..not Queens english at the altar..(or in your case bedside table) just correct pronunciation.
jhilto66 2 years ago
have u any proof he as u put it 'never validly ordained'? I have heard alot of crap ministers priests do a lot of services where I didnt understand a word and if it hadnt been for my own knowledge I would have not known where we were in the service. I have heard Bishops get the Rubics wrong right down to the Deacon getting it wrong...
Check your facts and come back when you have grown up with full backing of all the facts and then leave a sensible comment...thats if u can!
BeeThatasitMay 2 years ago
The prejudiced demonstrate that their opinions are spurious by describing them as fact.
postthehost 2 years ago
Could you explain what is a 'valid ordination with or without Apostolicity'? I have spent 8 years as a theology and ministry student and still could not answer this polemical question....... You are clearly educated and therefore must know its an impossible and pointless question to ask....
I've sat through many a Mass ; low, high, street and latin and they are all different. Moreover I have also witnessed many differing 'ordinations' again all very different but that's the beauty of belief.
wycliffe35 2 years ago
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brassspitoon 2 years ago
This is a joke
shaunnyboi89 2 years ago
WHY?
BeeThatasitMay 2 years ago
" What is the Mass"? Yes indeed you may ask. It has nothing to do with what we can see hear. Brian Rix around anywhere?
kpman 2 years ago
Hear? Perhaps an indication of the comment's origin. Rix is indeed a frequent visitor at traditional church where the divergence between what is spoken and what is lived descends into farce.
postthehost 2 years ago
He obviously doesn't know what he's doing (yes, his pronunciation is awful) - he looks and sounds like a TV actor playing an Italian cardinal who learnt his part from watching TV - but I've seen worse. Funny how he does a better job than some real RC priests. After all he an ex-Church of England priest: he likes high church even though he's not sure how to do it.
youngfogey1 2 years ago
The pharisees have been ruffled.
postthehost 2 years ago
It's his faithfulness which is important in all he does!
Steveinnorfolkuk 2 years ago
U do better??
SitonLeatherSofa 2 years ago
Oh and while we're at it....his pronunciation is terrible.
jhilto66 2 years ago
Ah, no regional accents or the like at the altar is it......only the equivalent of the 'Queen's English'?
postthehost 2 years ago
Haha!! oh thats funny!
What is that silly man doing?
oh dear oh dear.
Does he really think that is Mass???
jhilto66 2 years ago
What is Mass?
postthehost 2 years ago
Absolutely null, and utterly void.
kpman 2 years ago
declareth the Lord or some earth viewer?
postthehost 2 years ago