Afghanistan and global dominance

[sass225]

You can't win a fight if you allow your enemy to have a safe haven by hitting you and then making it across border. The Pakistani military outpost have fired on Afgan border outpost activly supporting the taliban. The tribes on the border freely move back and forth without reconizing a border.

[DeltaVerniahg734]

na ich bin eine gummi puppe

[84WAKEUP]

this world is fucked

[jethromayham]

The time of bully diplomacy is not the way to go.

[Alienpimp33]

Umm, ya, you mean the Japanese dragon's scale hankerchief! But good job, your a Moron!!

[MAGICSINGEMITS]

is no1 goin to mention whats on that guys wall ?? lol

[ivangrozny27]

No country has ever come out of Afghanistan without a bloodied nose at the very least. US troops are up against battle hardened fighters who for many generations have been locked in combat against both foreign and tribal enemies. If the US had decided to work together and in a just cooperation with the Taliban in the late 90s, the current mayhem would never have happened. But like all violent empires, Washington decided it didnt want to share or cooperate...just threaten, bully and steal.

[Packitlikesardines]

Sometimes, you would almost get the impression that Mr. Jay views Engdahl as a sort of higher-standard Alex Jones figure, but with academic credentials.. like, what is he doing here? Who jammed him down my throat?

[Exmech2]

Why do you jackasses want donations? Don't you think there are enough politically motivated faux news organizations already? Why do we need another one?

[Delgrodel]

Ah, you must be American.

[pondman27]

The occupation & troop build up in Afghanistan serves several strategic goals.

1. It places a large military force on the border of Iran (thier long held goal).

2. It ensures that young American men & women are overseas unable to halp protect thier families & communities and also that they are subjected to medications & "the beasting".

3. It maintains the security of the oil & gas pipelines along with the control over the opium fields.

All this serves the Zionist agenda, none other

[cyboone]

When is the last time the Government hasn't been the economic engine of America? The rich love socialism as long as they don't have to pay for it. Thus we borrow from the future. It is like eating next Fridays lunch today and fully expecting there to be lunch on next Friday. That is the American way.

[pondman27]

@cyboone

This is not through the informed choice of the American people. They have been injected, drigged & poisoned through the food & water. These orchestrations of economies do not happen by accident, they are deliberate strategies. The losers are never those that commit the crimes.

But these things are all fictions & the American people that still have thier eyes open can see this.

All roads of revenue flow to Israel & the Zionist global machine.

They have overstepped the mark.

[jbro81]

I keep feeling like our American empire is at the apex of its reach: bankrupt, militarized, propaganda laden, torturing, reducing its citizens' rights. As though a giant rubber band that has reached its breaking point. Maybe the force that snaps it is Afghanistan, Iraq, Yemen? Who knows what it will be like after the rubber band lands across the room. Terrifying. Like Propagandhi says: "That we were nothing more than objective observers to the madness."

[NicosNicosNicosNicos]

I would add to the list of "informal" local currencies to replace the dollar: the Sucre, as established by the ALBA countries in Latin America, to enable internal trade without depending on the dollar.

[KaptKan1]

All variations of socialism are evil; all depend on coercion. Libertarianism is the only philosophy which promotes individuals' liberty.

[robtherub]

@KaptKan1 what do you know about socialism? i tend to feel those shouting about evil are usually the evil ones and the evil they are shouting about is usually fictional, in my experience

[KaptKan1]

LMAO@robtherub! That is supposed to pass for some kind of argument?! You are a good representative of socialist "reasoning".

[robtherub]

i'm a conservative, wasn't an argument and was quite badly put, just sort of left there gibbering by the phrase "all variations of socialism are evil", my response to blurt the first thing came into my head in shock at such a statement (obviously i consider such a statement untrue) ...my reply to you not very coherent, sorry, cant really express how i feel... you are american yes? i am not a socialist, dont really wanna argue it, "evil" just sets off my teeth, more interested in libertarianism

[KaptKan1]

rob, We both need to reconsider. I'm not an american. I an a Canadian, and suffer every day from the effects of socialism. Statism of any kind is never the answer to our problems because it depends on coercion. Government mandated "charity" may be well-intentioned, but it creates immense, incompetent bureaucracies, impoverishes the productive classes, protects mega-corporations from competition in a truly free market, and relentlessly intrudes into our personal lives. I'm against it.

[robtherub]

well i know that version of what socialism "IS", i know other versions of what socialism is as well, of course i know what you've just told me cos that is the mainstream version of what we are told socialism is with the bog standard reasons reeled off as if they were absolute truths, the same way people used to roll off hallbjah 1441 and wmd when you were trying to argue the iraq war was a good idea, as if it were just obvious, i dont think so, "evil" particularly i take issue with. i

[cayetanoluis]

"all variations of socialism are evil; all depend on coercion"

A complete falsehood. Libertarian socialism ("libertarian" not in the perverted sense it's used in the United States for ultra-right wing free market fantasies) has nothing to do with coercion. The so-called "free market" is a thousand times more coercive than any socialism, because it leaves everyone at the mercy of the "market" (a God that's taken control of and rotted everything).

[KaptKan1]

You are deluded. And there is no such thing as "libertarian socialism"; it's like waging war for peace. A free market allows people to own their lives, property and labour. Socialism forces individuals to obey The Collective, and always by coercive means such as taxation and masses of laws which force people to obey the State. Nobody owns us folks, least of all the State.

If you widh further discussion, write a letter to The Libertarian Enterprise; there we can debate.

[ThotAum]

I see libertarian policies as being ones that free us from coercion... that may include the government, but it also includes other individuals. We must seek to maximize liberty... and that may mean restricting one persons liberty for the greater good.

As for socialism... I think socialism is good to the extent that it is a wise investment, and to some extent we must collectively contribute to that investment.

...Though, in practice, your perspective may be more accurate.

[KaptKan1]

ThotAum, We need restrict no one's liberty for any reason, but all must realise that they are not at liberty to harm others. The true "greater good" is always served by defending the rights of individuals, never by restricting them. Libertarians believe in co-operation, not collectivism; the former is voluntary, the latter is coercion. I invite you, too, to write a letter to The Libertarian Enterprise where we can discuss and debate at length. Peace and Liberty, ~ Kaptain Kanada

[cayetanoluis]

"Libertarians believe in co-operation, not collectivism"

Get the fuck out of our faces with that platitudinous shit. Maybe you think that the street beggar is going to "co-operate" with the CEO who had the "freedom" to throw him out onto the street, but anyone with their head outside their anus knows that the street beggar should lynch the CEO at the first opportunity.

[cayetanoluis]

"it's like waging war for peace"

Straight off the ball, I can see that you have no idea what you're talking about. I already clearly and unambiguously stated that the sense of libertarian I'm using is quite different to the sense you're using it. Everything else you said was a fabrication, and you know it. You people are like religious fundamentalists: you believe that the market will sort everything out like God. In fact, you have NO real conception of human freedom.

[pkunzipstardotstar]

@elgringorumbero Coffee Enemas, Liver/gallbadder flushes, juice feasting and a lifefood diet.

[PeakOilCountdown]

Love this video! I wish I was (much) wealthier, so I could send Paul Jay a private jet with matching vacht!

[TheRealNews]

@PeakOilCountdown thanks, but hold on the jet and yacht ....10$ a month would be nice :)

[Kanduca]

the american people don't understand the reality;

anything different-- they translate as marxism.

no wonder the highschool is so week in america..... they don't understand the map beyond America.

[blackxavior]

The reality is that is not any thing. It is just the same illogical Anti American yammering that has been going on for decades. They have just made up some new bullet points.

[fightforyourrights9]

That's where you are wrong, my friend. America has been sold out by the richest among us. They've put us so far into debt that our currency is failing and when all those who hold our debt come looking for their money, who do you think will lose? You think those billionaires and multimillionaires will allow themselves to feel it? It is the average American who will be forced into 3rd world servitude to American bankers who answer to foreign governments. It's been happening for some time now.

[blackxavior]

A typically American reply.You are so caught up with America you don't realize that nearly every western country is even more indebted than the US.What are the paying for?They are paying for there welfare state with borrowed money.We can stop all our police actions. What are they going to do? Plus with infinite time to pay our debt and the time value of money its not really a big deal for anyone. Any real economist will tell you that. This guy is a snake oil salesman try to sell a book.

[fightforyourrights9]

Typically American? That's interesting since most of the time when I post my views I get called anti-American. I wasn't aware it was typically American to know that the elites of my country own the politicians and have enriched themselves at the expense of everyone else. Most people in this country are empty headed celebrity worshippers who don't know shit about the world. That is typically American. How are western countries more indebted? Ours is the largest in the world.

[blackxavior]

So you think your special because you know the rich and powerful are using their influence to enriching themselves? Your not typically American, your typically stupid.

With this conclusion being reached I have lost the will to teach you about world economics.

[fightforyourrights9]

Ok, "your typically stupid" says the person who has terrible grammar, uses little punctuation, and can't even use "your" and "you're" correctly. If you don't think America is in trouble, go lick the boots of some Washington bureaucrat while everything falls down around you. Our debt is a problem, and regular people will feel the brunt of the fallout when all those loans get called in. How can you dispute this? Give me a legitimate argument and maybe I will take you seriously.

[blackxavior]

You obviously take me seriously enough to reply to my comments, grammar Nazi.

Now lets think about this. Who is loaning the US money? I will take one example China. Just by China loaning us money it is obvious from a business perspective that they do not believe that can make a better profit investing somewhere else, say Tibet or inner China for example.

You want to feel bad? Feel bad for the rural 3rd world we are getting our loan money from.

[fightforyourrights9]

Grammar Nazi? You called me stupid, so I pointed out several instances of stupidity in your posts to demonstrate the hypocrisy. Anyway, yes, China is loaning us money. However, the dollar is weak and soon China and others will see the US as a bad investment. We can't continue this way. The only reason the US is even viable anymore is because we have so many weapons and intimidate everyone. It is a system destined to crumble on the poor and middle classes. Do you not see the dollar as weak?

[blackxavior]

This is the problem with trying to fight your chicken little philosophy with logic. You can not disprove a negate. You disprove a part of it with logic. Then you simply say, well it will happen in the future. It will happen in the future based on what? I just disproved a major part of your augment in the present. Also relativity plays a role like your dollar comment. Of course the dollar is weak now. The fact is that a weak dollar has as many benefits and detriments as a strong dollar.

[fightforyourrights9]

China and other holders of US debt are already expressing concern over their investment. The US economy is becoming increasing artificial. The fed is keeping interest rates at 0 so the economy doesn't totally crash. Except this will only create more bubbles. The strength of the dollar is not the only factor in the economy. Also, you haven't disproved anything. All you've done is said I'm wrong and you're right with no evidence. Tell me why you think others will keep investing in the US.

[blackxavior]

People are also expressing concern over China's domestically focused bailout. Many think it is producing the same speculative bubbles that caused the recession. Why do I think people will keep investing in the US? because they are right now. Mercedes Benz is building a new plant in the US.Every company from China to India to Bulgaria is trying to get there product into the US. What do rich oil sheiks do for a safe investment. That's right they buy US skyscrapers, hotel chains, company's, ext.

[fightforyourrights9]

Ok, however if the US continues on its current path, the people who buy those products will stop buying them. The vast majority of people in the US are in the poor and middle classes. Right now most people don't have enough disposable income to buy crap that they don't need. The US dollar has been losing purchasing power for decades, and at some point people will stop buying products from other countries. I'm not saying this will happen tomorrow or even in a year, but it will happen...

[fightforyourrights9]

... at some point in the future. Also, US companies succeeding is not the same thing as the US succeeding. If a company operates worldwide, it does not hurt them if Americans are worse off, because more viable markets will open in other part of the world. The average American does not see significant return from the types of foreign investments you mention. The wealthiest Americans doing well does not mean the country as a whole will be ok. And do you not see a problem when foreign...

[fightforyourrights9]

... individuals, companies, or governments start to own major parts of the US economy? Maybe you think selling the US (and our futures) to the highest bidder is a good thing, but I tend to lean towards retaining sovereignty.

[RevinFreddy]

Perhaps that's what they really mean on Wall Street by trading futures in the futures markets... And what is the going rate of American Futures and the United States' future sovereignty in a global market economy based on nothing but the trading of bullshit (ehem...) I mean information?

[blackxavior]

...and the perfect part of your argument is it could happen 10000 years from now and you would still be right in word if not spirit. I on the other had have to disprove your nonsense everyday for 10000 years to be right.

[fightforyourrights9]

Except that is not part of my argument. I'm extrapolating the current trend of our economy into the future based on the policies which are being implemented now. 10000 years? Come on, be realistic. Average Americans are losing net worth constantly. The policies being enacted by the government and Federal Reserve are exacerbating the situation. You seem to think this house of cards will continue to stand even if more pressure gets put on it. The economy's foundation is almost non existent.

[fightforyourrights9]

If you want to ride yet another artificial bubble for a few years until it crashes even harder than the last one, then be my guest. I'd rather try to fix the fundamental flaw in the economy than this patchwork crap the government is attempting. The US is like a drug addict. Trying to maintain our artificial economical high by doing the same things that got us here can only lead to a bigger crash in the future. Keep doing it and the crash will render the economy beyond repair.

[blackxavior]

I would like to see some of the regulations Regan removed put back into place. I agree the Us economy has some fundamental problems. I don't believe it is the end of the world. The government just acts really slow. Balance will eventually be regained.

[Quranite]

Great video! I hope we wake up!

[charliebarosio]

Incredible all the Luxemburg Marxist Bolsheviks so earnestly rearranging the deckchairs here on board United Snakes Dreadnought as we sail so nonchantly into the uncharted waters of amerika's long overdue demise, all for the cause of the same master chosen racers of course.

Onward thru the fog with the crotch bomber's dirty laundry and the chertoffian x ray chambers being installed throughout the land. If the next "terrorist" decides to swallow condoms full of semtex must we shit before we fly?

[elbowbiter1]

Beautiful poetry. Eat the rich.

[charliebarosio]

amerikan long knives dazed but galloping as their wild west days come to their logical conclusion. The free lunch is all but eaten, a continent scalped and sodden in toxic waste in fewer than 3 centuries and the WASP "shining city" but a slum and armed madhouse, living from the loot of the rest of the planet. Full global and spectrum dominance delusions and the rest of the xionazi verbal diarahea as the sphincter of empire finally gives out and the fecal matter hits the fan outside..... Iran!

[Cres45]

State Socialism is a capitalist corporation like all the capitalist countries. Only the workers self-management is true egalitarianism.

[AndrewMann552]

Workers' control is a key factor in socialist thinking. Forget Stalin, read Rosa Luxemburg, who bridged the gap between Marxist and anarchist ideas. and again, socialist movements are the only ones making any progress, anarchist movements have so far only given the world broken ATMs and burned cars.

[Cres45]

Sure Luxemburgists and Council communists are more close to anarchist ideas, but they are just less authoritarian than the other state socialists/communists. I believe that even a less authoritarian society, mathematically will lead to a total hierarchical state.

[pkunzipstardotstar]

@Cres45 I agree, Just produce food[i.e. Permaculture], hang out with the animals, smoke the odd joint and listen to Bob Marley and everything should work itself out from there.

[jye42]

hmmm "No creative grand stratergy" hes right the usa govt has no grand stratergy to save them. however there is one out there try googleing Zeitgeist Addendum or The Venus Project

[blackiron60]

The United States, like Rome, is locked into a global role and an imperial mindset and, like Rome, it cannot escape.

[iTeaze888]

Liberty is beeing allowed to do things, why does everybody want liberty when you can have freedom?..

[MajNorberg]

2 words...peak oil.

[mariocaric]

Robert Engdahl doesn't even believe in Peak Oil.

He thinks it is all a fabricated political maneuver to gain power.

[MajNorberg]

power is energy.

[xMaXiMuSx]

@mariocaric

well clearly peak oil is a scam.. There is oil fields popping out all over the world.. Isn't that obvious by now?? Are some of them running out? Sure.. But if new ones are being discovered every day and most of the existing ones are still LOADED, you can conclude that it is a scam to introduce scarcity and drive up oil prices.

[gringodeltoro1]

A message to all Americans, leave your country and go live in South America. Your government is not working on your behalf, so why should you trust them with your life. People who stay are going to be in a world of shit. The economy is a ticking bomb. Learn spanish and pack your bags. Me, I'm already booking a flight.

So long

[mariocaric]

How can you take Engdahl seriously?

He has got a strong belief that "Peak Oil" and "Global Warming" are hoaxes used for political power.

Anyone else finds this fact somewhat strange?

[Darkhorse21x]

Global Warming due to CO2 is a HOAX.

Why do you think they call Greenland "GreenLand". Because it used to have much less ice on it than it does today when average Earth temperatures were higher than today durring the middle ages.

[alizeentraedy]

Thas why they have projected to have intervention wars in Pakistan and my lovely country::Mexico,so they can control our oil an make war under the disguise of help against druglords!!CIA is been trafficking drugs wth El chapo guzman(mexican narc)And I can see very clearly that they do not want Mexico to be one the rising powers of the world,Americas real enemys are their own corporatocracy and financial elites!!!!

[VexRiot]

If you're against the endless wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, you might like listening to this. It's a very articulate rant about Obama's war.

Afghanistan is Not the Right War

watch?v=qebmfFx6Zpw

[VexRiot]

Paul Craig Roberts is good too. Not afraid of being controversial concerning 9/11.

[VexRiot]

Good interview. More.

Better than the socialist-collectivists that are the norm at times.

[ajr5086]

Wouldn't saying socialist-collectivist be redundant?

These journalist-reporters have only selfish-egoistic reasons behind these webcast-vlogs.

Thanks for reminding us that socialists want the central government to take control over all commerce! You know how they never galvanized us against that in mid-Twentieth Century, to the point where call one a socialist is an instant like say fag or nigger.

This is a Progressive-oriented News Agency, of course it has socialist-like tendency. So what?

[Xenu]

Socialism means worker-control of the means of production. State-control of the means of production is Stalinism.

[ajr5086]

Well, socialism is or as it tries to be a democracy (a government controlled by all the people) that controls all other forms of influences on the "working class". Commerce is one of those influences. The central government has the control over commerce and people have control over the government, thus everyone is happy...I guess.

I respect socialism's pull for class equality, but it dictates the need for supreme government control and that leads to problems. It's still democracy, sorta shitier

[Xenu]

That is not the Marxist (post-1848) or anarchist understanding of socialism. In a capitalist society government is the shadow cast by business. Socialism replaces the corporation with the workers' council. Once the workers' councils are in control of the economy and the bourgeois state is smashed (*not* taken over) a mini-state will have to be formed. It will be democratic because the capitalists will no longer be able to buy it and mini- because the economy will be administered by the councils.

[ajr5086]

Marxism, anarchism, and socialism...there different political viewpoints that all have a bases from the works of Carl Marx. Call it "smashed" or taken over, but a central government still control the market and commerce for a socialist nation to exist.

Now the original anarchy state would be closer to the "mini-state" concept your talking about. Most anarchist I encounter, however, tend to lean towards the capitalist anarchy, where there's no state and businesses take those necessary positions

[Xenu]

"..a central government still control the market and commerce for a socialist nation to exist..."

Uh... I'm not sure what part of 'no it doesn't' you don't understand. Socialism predates Mark and anarchism was built up by Bakunin in opposition to Marx. Do you even know what a workers council is? And it's also obvious you've never read a word of Marx (and his name is Karl, not Carl). You're just coming across as willfully ignorant.

[blackiron60]

And worker's cooperatives built the Spanish high-tech industry and designed its first computer chips. The guy you're replying to, like so many other people, thinks the "siege socialism" of the USSR is the definition of socialism. Every country that's ever been under siege, in the way the USSR was by the entire capitalist world, adopted a centralized state out of sheer necessity. The reason anarchism has never gained power is because it cannot survive in the face of a reactionary backlash.

[ajr5086]

Blackiron60, you basically pegged this right for me. I know enough to get by in a socialism, I don't really see myself do a major in depth study of Karl Marx so that I can randomly talk about. I do know, though, that you can't hope for an more than a siege socialist state, as you call it. You'd probably have to start a space colony on Mars to go back to a primitive communism or it's likes...and I pretty because of that.

I'm definitely a federalist who wants to use capitalism like a cheap whore

[AndrewMann552]

Good analysis. I say anarchists should look at current examples: In Bolivia and Venezuela, socialist movements only grow stronger, anarchist movements in Greece and Mexico just make noise for a few days and then they get crushed by the countries' security forces.

[Cres45]

Socialist movements are financed by the world bankers. Anarchist movements never did. State Socialists have always betrayed the workers. Even in the current situation in Afganistan, CIA has aligned with war criminals of the afgan communist party in order gain control of the population.

[AndrewMann552]

Financed by world bankers? Please elaborate. As for the Afghan Communist Party, you forget that was the first party Karzai BANNED when he took power. The errors of past socialist movements don't devalue the essense of socialist thought, the same way mistakes by anarchist groups don't devalue anarchist theories.

[Cres45]

Just read the book "Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution" of Antony C. Sutton.

There is an online version of it if you make research.

[agentm83]

@blackiron60 Anarchy has also never gained power because it's not the most practical form of governance. People come together to form governments because it presents the most benefits to a majority of people. Anarchy is not particularly practical, or realistic in this day and age. The most you might get is a libertarian minimalist government. Most people don't want that either.

[cayetanoluis]

"Anarchy has also never gained power"

Look into Spain in the 1930s.

[kmg501]

Incompetent or criminal, does it really matter anymore? Either way the federal government has destroyed us and left us no option but for state secession to save ourselves from a bankrupt and completely corrupt federal govt.

[kjpdqpb]

idk about anyone else but I'm learning new trades, languages, and skills in case i need to abandon ship.

[wannaruwae]

where is the change?

much worse.

the u.s. is doomed, bye bye dumb nation.

[gringodeltoro1]

I hope the next decade is a peacefull one, I'm sick of watching people dying for the sake of stupidity.

Peace.

[australia5151]

the more americans we kill the better the world would be, very nice

Great Satan = USA

[GlamSix]

u know this is an american based website why r u on here question urself with that

[arachn1dinshoe]

ha! bush invaded Iraq because they wanted to price their oil in Euro's.

But everybody is going to do it anyway!

The US$ is going to be so weak if the rest of the world is not propping it up through monopoly US$ trade!

Allowing the US to monopolise trade between all nations was a crazy idea to start with! All it's done is create the US bubble. It's going to be devastating watching that bubble burst. Hopefully it's slow.....

[slipcurve]

This was once again excellent. These kind of interviews are the reason I watch realnews.

[chan0chap]

this guy dont get it and asking stupid questions.

america is fighting for the last remaining oil and gas reserves in the world. if every chinese buys a car the oil will run out before the end of the week.

[patriotwarrior2]

Resist the New World Order.

PATRIOTS UNITE

[Pinch0fSalt]

do you realize patriotism was one of the main mechanisms of social control that allowed the U.S militarys' despotic practice to continue world wide. Blind patriotic faith led innocent young men into Vietnam, Afghanistan and Iraq. Fuck your patriotism. Wake up

[patriotwarrior2]

@Pinch0fSalt

You need to wake up. First you claim "blind patriotic faith" whatever that is, led innocent men into war. No, corrupt politicians did that. Secondly, who are you to say, "fuck your patriotism" without knowing who I am. My patriotism is to freedom and the Constitution. It is to principles and ideals, not some blind faith you refer to. I do not advocate war. Your comment is simply a knee jerk reaction of an idiot. You are being argumentative and abusive. Uncalled for.

PATRIOTS UNITE

[ajr5086]

I have to say that, yes, patriotism is apart of that greater assortment of emotions and ideas that leaders and groups have used to get what they want, like wars and such. How would corrupt politicians "led innocent men into war" without some existential motivation greater then survival and greed? Especial, so, with most wars deny individual soldiers those things.

So basically, yes, patriotism does have it's positive effects, but it's still very much used to motivate. Be wary of being a patriot.

[patriotwarrior2]

@ajr5086

I agree to a certain extent that patriots can be manipulated into fighting for a cause, i.e. to protect their country and family. If the threat they are fighting for is not real, then they would be misled by the corrupt politicians. I believe this has happened quite a bit. All patriots need to be highly skeptical of going to war. I am only advocating uniting for causes that require little more than civil disobedience. A matter of personal belief - "Give me liberty or give me death."

[IPlayWithFire135]

Agreed. Nationalism is one of the most enslaving things ever dreamed up by mankind.

[CommissarRed]

@IPlayWithFire135

Thats not entirely true. Before Nation states we had tribal ties based on very narrow Ethnic and cultural ties. Some forms of while deeply flawed nationalism can be open and allow a degree of heterogeneity that was impossible under other forms of tribalism. That being said I am still of view that Nationalism must be tempered with rationality and an flexible character.

[DemiRonin]

This was depressing :(

[thetimman00]

Are we sure this isn't a strategy TO bancrupt?

[kmg501]

"Bankrupt strategy"

No shit Sherlock. Good luck getting the incompetent bureaucrats in congress or the White house to realize it.