not quite romantic enough to call it that... but he did certainly try to hold onto romanticism - certainly more so than the any other dodecaphonic composers
Interesting you call serial composition "romantic"! But, Berg's textures and his methods are romantic I suppose. I love this opera, always have since I heard it when I was 16...Thank you for posting it!
@johnmannno This is not serial music. It's not even dodecaphonic. Wozzeck is atonal, yet not in any way serial; it's at times expanded tonality, expanded harmony but all the time supreme inventiveness not yet succeeded.
@RickvanVeldhuizen Oops! You're right (more or less)! It's not serial, true, but it is weakly 12 tone, WEAKLY mind you. Berg did reject serialism true, I ought to have known that.
Only act I scene 4. It has a Passacaglia-theme which ís dodecaphonic and on which Berg goes on to variate. These scenes are an 'invention' on a six-note chord which is constantly present, until the exit of Hauptmann and Doktor, an 'invention' on a key (D minor, the intermezzo is thereby to be classified as 'tonal'), the last is a moto perpetuo based on the quaver. Something can't be lightly dodecaphonic, it depends on the rules applied by the composer to 12-tones.
@Aquired2 I'm enjoying the comments! Haven't had this much fun since college, arguing about composition. Many composers I've known/spoken with think there is such a thing as "lightly" or "weak" 12 tone writing. Others are much more particular and say, "Nope. Either it is or it ain't, nothing in between." And other theorists who've I've heard lecture on this say that the tonality is so extended, that it can be called "almost atonal". Quien sabe?
This use of expressionism is really something. the high level of dissonance and extreme dynamics including changing textures and distorted melodies. The instruments are jumping at extremes too with angular melodic leeaps and also chromatic harmonies. Thank u!
Yes, a firm grip is still clinging to Romanticism through a great majority of the 20th Century, but you can't call it Romantic period music.
romino707 1 year ago
The Matrix meets Tweedledee&Tweedledum XD 3:37
RickvanVeldhuizen 1 year ago
das ist ja mal krank
aber iwie mag ichs
magdil64 2 years ago
not quite romantic enough to call it that... but he did certainly try to hold onto romanticism - certainly more so than the any other dodecaphonic composers
kaciesaurus 2 years ago
This scene is so powerful.
Villette09 3 years ago 3
Das Messer, es liegt zu weit vorn, sie finden's beim Baden
oder wenn sie nach Muscheln tauchen.
black0jackass 3 years ago 5
Interesting you call serial composition "romantic"! But, Berg's textures and his methods are romantic I suppose. I love this opera, always have since I heard it when I was 16...Thank you for posting it!
johnmannno 4 years ago
@johnmannno This is not serial music. It's not even dodecaphonic. Wozzeck is atonal, yet not in any way serial; it's at times expanded tonality, expanded harmony but all the time supreme inventiveness not yet succeeded.
RickvanVeldhuizen 1 year ago
@RickvanVeldhuizen Oops! You're right (more or less)! It's not serial, true, but it is weakly 12 tone, WEAKLY mind you. Berg did reject serialism true, I ought to have known that.
johnmannno 1 year ago
Only act I scene 4. It has a Passacaglia-theme which ís dodecaphonic and on which Berg goes on to variate. These scenes are an 'invention' on a six-note chord which is constantly present, until the exit of Hauptmann and Doktor, an 'invention' on a key (D minor, the intermezzo is thereby to be classified as 'tonal'), the last is a moto perpetuo based on the quaver. Something can't be lightly dodecaphonic, it depends on the rules applied by the composer to 12-tones.
Aquired2 1 year ago
@Aquired2 I'm enjoying the comments! Haven't had this much fun since college, arguing about composition. Many composers I've known/spoken with think there is such a thing as "lightly" or "weak" 12 tone writing. Others are much more particular and say, "Nope. Either it is or it ain't, nothing in between." And other theorists who've I've heard lecture on this say that the tonality is so extended, that it can be called "almost atonal". Quien sabe?
johnmannno 1 year ago
This use of expressionism is really something. the high level of dissonance and extreme dynamics including changing textures and distorted melodies. The instruments are jumping at extremes too with angular melodic leeaps and also chromatic harmonies. Thank u!
faker0001 4 years ago
eerie
Kkaburuhjengee 4 years ago