Leica S2 Prototype

[MrCOLTSR2]

your paying for a large kodak sensor and good but basic lenses..(no zooms!)..the rest of the camera is shit!

[AndrewPG24]

if i have a leica s2 prototype on my hands, i will protect it like crazy :p

[Drefi]

Lol i'll stick with my Sony Cybershot, its just like 21,800$ cheaper (:

[gearsssofwarrr]

I'll stick with my 5d and wide variety of L-lenses

[offpatinya]

If you have just money, you can not buy it

you must have money and stupid to buy it

[vneuman921]

What do you think..The Leica S2 or the Phase 1 that Peter Lik likes to use? Looking for comments from the pro's

[xMandalorex]

20k camera? NO THX

[ChrisEditz]

does anyone else notice that her name is mike...and she has a leica...eurotrip much?????

[Alzdr]

Compact?! The camera is bigger than her!

[aunsell]

I hate it when people cant afford something and then feel the need to hate because their poor. Get a life people!

[aunsell]

I laugh at so many people here that are trying yo compare their Canon or Nikon to this camera. Hasselblad with digital backs yes, Canon and Nikon, No. While Canon and Nikon are excellent cameras this isn't even in the same relm. It's not even tecnically a medium format because the sensor is larger. Hasselblad has 40-50mp models with pro1 digital backs so this ammount of MP isn't new for a camera of this caliber, nor is the price.

[WonderlandsLondon]

For the same price of an average car... :-)

[asbaDoce]

@WonderlandsLondon Why to buy a cheesy car when you can have an outstanding camera?

[Timkennedy11591]

So many haters!

This camera is clearly made for location shooting. I have a Hasselblad H and I can imagine this being infinitely better to use on location. Nikon and Canon? Once you shoot medium format you will understand. The difference is night and day even with the same amount of pixels. We all know pixel count doesn't matter in the grand scheme, but when you start with more, 200px thumbnail never looked so good. high mp is NECESSARY for non softening beauty retouching however.

[elpaciko]

@supervanscott

[elpaciko]

@supervanscott because somebody DO need to print mural sized posters on the sides of building.

What?? You never seen a mural sized poster on the sides of building?? Never seen a HUGE print advertisement?? seriously??

do you really think this camera intended for soccer moms?? seriously??

[saphira512]

hi, my name is Vee. i just sold my loft to buy the Leica S2

LOL. (btw, i'm kidding)... but i would though..

[IgorLoader]

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[AspectRatioPolice]

what a waste of R&D.

[nikocure]

gay cam

[BOSERNR1]

OH MY GOD!!!! 1.5 FPS ITS AWESOME!!!1!!!1111!!

[ithree6mafia]

is this a good beginner camera? because i think im gonna get it

[HeyitsWenzel]

@ithree6mafia lololol

[phototechluke]

@ithree6mafia

yeah if you have 17k from saving up your pocket money lmao

[Tomislav666]

@ithree6mafia: Dream on, my dear, dream on. 

[cserr000]

@Tomislav666 my dreams are now a reality i got the camera

[175myles]

She said 37.5 megapixels =) not 47.5.

[lindflake]

gay

[topbadgun]

damme it, plug n' play with hubble....

of course i like it

[NlkOlVy]

this is too much money and megapixels for a camera.. well, maybe not........ anyway i rather the nikon d3s...

[DemonicGenocide]

Different type of camera all together. Used for different jobs

[Paintballnation584]

@NlkOlVy D3x all the way... oh yeaaa

[TL250Rider]

THis a Great Camera

Cost a Lot of Money

It will do your Laundry when you are not home.

What a super Camera.

Great Listing

[iglyduckling]

If I were earning over 500k / year I would buy this camera for SURE. Right now I'm so happy with my Sony Alpha A900 24.6 Mega Pixel.

[LivingForLOL]

Sond's like she's saying "working for 'like a camera" 0:12

[nainladen]

That leica will only be brought by rich idiots,

Not by real pros

[hihellocute]

who cares about leica cameras.

I'd do that German girl shes hott

[Chromebeetle]

You can download this game for free at FreakFishMedia(.)com

[iRTheUnknown]

Did she say "1.5fps" at the end? Also the clean look is good but i love having some features there and now. I'd hate having to mess around in the menu everytime i want something that i could just have a button with it. Tbh, at that price i would go for the hasselblad in a heartbeat. :)

[FOTOPROFORUM]

WATCH MY REVIEW, THE LEICA S2 AINT WHAT YOU THINK

watch?v=6GQPH-K7XTk

[mportillo27]

Jesus!! 23,000 dollars.

[wyldkatt2005]

Her name is Mica from... Leica? that can't be right.

[GraceOfFaith]

Leica is overrated and overpriced, like many other german products

[sixtx]

47,5 megapixels is NOT MOTHERFUCKING OVERRATED.

[challanful]

@sixtx Leica IS overrated.

[mardz23]

@sixtx 37.5 not 47.5

[farabirview]

@sixtx I can easily buy phase one 65MP back with a mamiya or hasselblad MF that also have autofocus and autoexposure. Leicas are great, but they are too expensive, and not as good as their price might suggest. I have owned a M6 TTL and have used M3 and M7. They are strong but actually very light and not the solid piece of metal. But if you attach a summilux then it feels heavy.

[sixtx]

@farabirview Yeah I know they're too expensive, I'm just saying that they're not overrated as they really are great. And about your last point let's just say I own three leicas: a leicaflex, a R3 and a R4s which are really solid. When I pick up newer cameras it really feels like I'm holding garbage to me so don't worry, I know what you mean.

[weldermarshall]

To make such a statement you have not used a leica

[tw25rw]

Does this woman have exceptionally small hands?

[wutang00]

@tw25rw No the camera is that big...It is medium format not a DSLR.....:)

[aksoyozgur]

$ 28,000.

No wonder they are targeting pro market:)

I would love to play with that camera!!!

[psynema]

sure it 's great, but as per the design, it reminds me of the 1980s best attempt at futurist streamlining.

[Undergroundphoto]

I got to use one today. I love it. Best camera i have ever shot with. The controls are a little had to grasp on the back if you never used one before but they are easy to learn. The prototype's white ballence was very bad but they are in the process of working that out. The auto focus was very slow but that was a prototype bug also. I would not want to shoot a wedding with this especially with a grip and a flash sense it is so heavy. But i would have to say i would give up my nikons for it.

[brharte]

Isn't it funny how how a lot of 35mm Full Frame owners (5D mkII, D700, etc) are feeling a little "inadequate" hence the negative comments.

I'm guessing that's how a lot of APS-C owners feel about full frame. It's called a food chain. LOL!

[dominicm3]

Why oh why did Leica not produce a Leica R10 instead??  With the S2, Leica are heading toward another M5 fiasco IMO.

[wd9hot]

Wow, And I thought that I had oily fingertips.

[goodbyeblueskyinc]

I have the first model of this camera and it's great.

[PhotoLabMP]

I believe that this Leica S2 will probably cost the same for a new Honda Accord. $30,000 for body-only.

[PhotoLabMP]

I still don't get why Leica cameras are so expensive. What the difference in these cameras that makes them so special? Their dslrs look like point and shoots and their $8,000. WTF?

[Extremmist]

What I don´t understand is this S2 - for the price of this camera I could buy a new Hasselblad H4D with much larger sensor and higher resolution so why should I buy the S2? Yea, it´s smaller, but if I want to carry only the camera without lights, why it doesn´t have higher ISO? With its sensor size it could use ISO 6400 without any significant noise. And if I have to carry lights, then I don´t give a damn if I carry Hasselblad or Leica, the lights are heavier anyway.

[manbearpig91]

the hasselblad is $21,000 more expensive

[MohanSandhu]

@Extremmist

By all accounts the lenses for this thing blow any other medium format system out the water. I've talked to quite a few commercial photographers who aren't too fond of the Fuji lenses on the Hasselblad H system.

What I'm curious about is how the target market (Pros not dentists) take to the 3:2 aspect ratio.

[manbearpig91]

better quality and better performance

[PhotoLabMP]

I like how she says that the camera is "very compact" when the camera is obviously huge. The standard lens is massive.

[brharte]

She's right. Compact in relation to other medium format cameras. You might as well ask why Full frame 35mm is not as compact as APS-C.

[8CHAPS8]

That camera is bloody huge! Or is it just her hands that are small? lol

[okhouri]

i don't get it. Why would anyone need more than 21MP?

[sixties00]

dude the sensor on this camera is 60% larger than the sensor on a full frame format dsrl (canon eos 1Ds mark III, nikon D3x)

that's a whole new level

[goodbyeblueskyinc]

You are obviously not a professional photographer. More megapixels = clearer image.

[kussummak]

But you would have to print larger than A2 to detect the difference. You are obviously not a smart professional.

[paulizdabest]

More megapixels = bigger image. Not better image quality so not necessarily clearer. I'm not professional and even I know that.

[manbearpig91]

yeah but how much do you need? 12? 24 for landscapes?

[brharte]

LOL. That's the same question that was asked of 8MP,10MP, and 15MP when they first came out. More MP=more room for cropping.

I guess I could also ask why would anyone need more than 10MP?

[kussummak]

LOL. No, it's not the same question. 21MP can print up to A2, and the question was, why would you need more than that. I don't think cropping is a good answer. If you crop too much then maybe you're in need of a zoom lens.

[josephgrovers]

Maybe for professional photographers that take pictures for magazines, posters, or any large images. Use your head.

[podivan22]

@brharte:

Remember that this camera does not have a 35mm or crop sensor size, hence the "need" for more MP. Take a look at some of the images shot on a Phase One P65+ (60mp) digital back and you will know what I mean. As for crop cameras, yes 10MP is enough as you would probably use a more high-end camera for bigger prints. On p&s and mobile phone cameras, having a sensor with more than 10MP will actually lower the quality of the image to some degree, because the physical sensor size is so small

[dombower]

has she got very smallhands or is that massive!!!!

[socal1000]

i agree 100%

[socal1000]

hasselblad h3dII

39 Megapixels Large 36.8 x 49.1mm CCD Sensor

1000 bucks less

[dvamateur]

Well, the Hasselblad is not weather sealed. This means that the Leica is not confined into a studio, but can also be used for outdoor photos say on a beach, where the little sand grans have tendency to penetrate a camera that is not sealed. I wouldn't take the Leica out on the rain, though. I think the Leica S2 is a very viable competition for the Hasselblad and Mamiya/Leaf combo.

[changuirus5000]

where do we get them???? walt mart???

[weetsie]

i have already pre ordered 2

[dvamateur]

Most of the pro-level cameras are expensive. I think this might still be a cost-effective alternative to the Hasselblad. Of course it's for pros, or rich enthusiasts. The body will cost around $22,000. Less than a 35mm sensor digital video camera, Sony F35, which costs $250,000. This is equipment who treat their profession seriously, not for point and shooters, definitely not...

[25PeeAddiction]

Actually, a very good point comparing this S2 to the Sony F35, for a one basic similarity; both cameras can be replaced easily by Canon 5D M2, even the 7D ... if you are short for some bucks, there is no "seriously professional treatment".. it's a branding scam.

[dvamateur]

Actually, if you could tether the Canon 5D MkII to an HDCAM recorder, you could almost completely replace the F35. So far the 5D MkII records in a consumer level AVCHD (H.264), which is I believe only 17Mbits/sec at best. HDCAM is 144 Mbits/sec and and HDCAM-SR is 440Mbits/sec (or 880 in double speed mode). As far as the cinema-look though, Canon 5D MkII delivers in abundance though

[manbearpig91]

why would you want video mode? waste of extra effort.

[MisterDanLorth]

that size sensor with video mode would be insane....

[leconjugueur]

oh man...

I want one of those...

I'd take a camera too... if it was free.

[rien515]

CAUSE THE REST IS SO CHEAP... Leica Rocks !!!

[comfortablesofa]

such bs .... doesn't make any sense for anyone to buy it ...another unnecessarily expensive camera to take set the bench mark of the most expensive

[pademonmon]

this is nowhere near of being the most expensive~

[theroden]

WTF WHY LEICA IS SOOO EXPENSIVE!

[fastfashn]

Expensive? Because it's the Ferrari of cameras. Silly poop.

[theroden]

ferrari is HUGE PERFORMANCE !!

Leica compared to other "cheaper" cameras IS NOT

silly boy

[MohanSandhu]

@theroden

It's funny reading all these comments from people who have probably never shot a leica.

[johnowls]

It looks fucking mahoosive and no i think ill buy the new car i was after instead :- I

[manbearpig91]

26000 for the body. 400 for the charger. fuck.

[TavisArtkov]

I've read about this and was shocked to see the $45,000 price tag. My reaction "hell no"

[markennvibryan]

looks great and also cool to see a review where they no how to handle a camera

[zeo99]

this is heavenly ...

[vampirecherry]

*drool*

[BestVisuals]

The pixel count is in the mid-30's, which will soon be overtaken by 35mm footprint DSLRs. Hasselblads are already at 50MP, and due to their removeable backs that number can grow without replacing the camera. It's also not medium format, it's just bigger than 35mm FF. It's a unique sensor size, unique body and lens mount, be aware any purchaser is in for one-source prices (that means high!). You can get the same thing in other brands for less.

[tubemech]

Fat camera. As in fat, but phat too, yes.

Bye.

[tubemech]

Hello, I am Mica from Leica

[damonwebster]

HI Mica!

[SimonMarangoz]

@tubemech Nein bist du nicht :D Denn ich bin Mica :O

[nainladen]

@tubemech

your s2 is completely uninteresting

it's smaller than a medium format!!

"pro format" is just marketing BS!!!

[tubemech]

@nainladen Really? Is that so? Well it's better than being some prick who actually thinks I'm 'Mica from Leica'.

[scooterboi17]

@nainladen I really like how you added all the !!! that must mean you're right and mad. !!! indeed! I think I'll start using them. BS!!!

[nainladen]

@scooterboi17

You said it yourself im right!!! cuz unlike the leica fanboys here i tried it

and i was very underwhelmed

its just a piece of garbage

albeit a finely crafted years of experienc unique bla bla garbage

but still

its garbage

ah yes also : !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[scooterboi17]

@nainladen The funny thing is I don't believe you. I do believe you're mad but I also believe the only place you've seen this camera is here on youtube though I may be wrong it doesn't matter. "its just a piece of garbage"."finely crafted years of experienc[sic] unique bla bla garbage". Finely crafted garbage! Indeed!... oh I forgot !!!!

[nainladen]

@scooterboi17

yup as i said a piece of expensive garbage CQFD!!!!! ^ ^

[MacLtu]

Did she just said 37,5 megapixels? :O

[SSXrodo]

I'm in love ! XD

[cutestalien]

whats the flash sync? 1/250 ?

[te4s80txmt]

The lenses all have leaf shutters so they will flash sync at any speed. The flash sync of the focal plane shutter will probably be 1/125 like most 645-sized shutters.

[cutestalien]

AAAAAAAAAAAAA i want i want !!!!

[leonio10]

...it looks massive!

[salatherz21]

sexy camera

[weetsie]

im guessing $20000

[nraves]

Gimme two

[OscarLorenzoStaCruz]

it's a monster

[mythoskultur]

Like I read once about the R8, it's a damn tank!

[sacredgeometry]

it isnt really when you look at the mf digis

[amanslair]

More sexy than 35mm DSLRs, let alone the ugly medium format systems.

The price is not fixed yet. Leica has just said that it will be priced 'competitively'. Competitive Mamiya and Hasselblad systems go for around $20,000 with normal lens. Leica is definitely going to charge more for their lenses at least, even if they price their body 'competitively'

[Orosboziris]

much more sexy than any H hasselblad

[obskure1]

way out of my price range, but definitely looks like an exciting camera!

[Maiwald666]

interessant dabei ist das Leica wieder einmal keine Kompromisse eingeht. Canon und Nikon hatten früher Leicas 1:1 nachgebaut ohne Skrupel sogar das Emblem gefälscht. Die hatten sich ein Beispiel am Besten Kamerahersteller genommen, zu Recht. Mal sehen ob für Leica heute noch Kunden vorhanden sind die Geld genug haben sich das Original zu erstehen.

[janillo31s]

just image you have an s2.

Then you go to photography school.

then you show the class your gear.

Damn. Leica S2.

Even the D3x and 1ds Mark iii owners will get jealous.

[theroden]

i wouldn't be jealous...cuz with the money that maybe he is paying for that leica y can buy TONS of thinks for my camera (lenses flashes bags you name it)

[shaftdrive]

if you could buy one you wouldn't go to photo school - except maybe to lecture...

[hereacostin]

30.000 euros... body only... get real pls.

[rockdrummerconnor]

how do u know that its going to be 30000euros?

prb

[hereacostin]

from a news website. The info is on many other websites.

[shane6003PQ]

it's a good price. It's what you would pay for a Leaf Afi-II camera body and lens. Some think Schneider Kreuznach glass isn't as good as Leitz Camera, but I'd say they're equal.

9 months ago a hasselblad HD3-39 would be about the same price, even more for the "multi-shot" version.

We as simple photographers probably won't buy it, but we can all wish we could, like the high end professionals shooting architecture, automobiles, landscape, and anything else.

[ProfetaParanoia]

...and it looks "so called" expensive

BTW... 1.5 frame per second?

[shane6003PQ]

What's wrong with that? I'm guessing most people will be using this for studio, or controlled light settings for commercial use. I don't know strobes that recycle in 1.5 seconds(including Broncolor) ... do you?

It'll be very very expensive, even more so then Leaf, or Hasselblad. That could be a good thing, and people who make a living on automobiles or commerical work (like Rene Staud or Michael Muller) who have tons of money will probably enjoy buying the new S2.

[ProfetaParanoia]

are you saying that it's a studio-only camera, then?

pretty expensive for a one-purpose-only camera, don't you think?

studio-only shooting is so controlled and requires so much preparation that doesn't really makes a huge diference if you shoot with a 5D mkII, a 1Ds mkIII, a D3 or this one.

so why bother on buying this camera, then?

again, if you have a LOT of money, sure it's better to buy this than burn you greens in the backyard...... but that's surely not my case.

[shane6003PQ]

When I say studio, I mean product studio... it's totally different. Think large format cameras, automobiles, and anything large that require a very large file. However, people can certainly use it for portraits... and the people that will buy it are people that have no budget (plenty of reputable photographers in the world). If you've seen the way the camera works, you'd know the maestro platform is so different from current cameras... it's a work of art.

[shane6003PQ]

Along with the fact that it is a large sensor, it bypasses the normal filters and uses a much more powerful DSP chip, superior sharpness, accurate colors, and strong software keep the camera from slowing down ( it has two major chips running it). instead of RGB it has a new color profile for cameras call YCrCb which has superior bit depth, important to reproduction and general file information.

I'm sure other fields will enjoy the camera, but we generally know where it will be used most.

[xmeda]

ergonomics looks like hell..

[bbtel]

You probably need an AIG bonus to afford this Grosse Kamera

[Maiwald666]

Fetter Sensor, fetter Preis. Ich suche noch einen Sponsor der mir das Ding kauft.

[toad2039]

the veyron of dslr`s

[jahanzebk91]

37.5 MegaPixels !!!!!!

OMG !!!

[MagicMan135]

Beautiful piece of equipment. I look forward to testing it out.