Have to agree with lollolllolllll, this is right brain stuff. Yes, there is no "you" or "me" or "time" in the ultimate sense... BUT care should be taken not to see this in a nihilistic way, which takes us very much in the wrong direction. All of the main religions have love as a central part of their teachings, there is a very good reason for this, and it is completely obscured by a nihilistic/Nathanistic view.
THere is a good reason to see the future and past, to feel emotions, to have attachments and desires: It keeps us alive. "Enlightenment" is an abberation of the physiology of the brain, where the sense of self seated in the left hemisphere has dissolved, leaving the right brain to interpret reality... a one-sided unbalanced interpretation that is in fact, a handicap & not an advantage.
A balance of left right brain is needed for survival. What Gill espouses is a purely right brained approach that is an abberation that if practiced or experienced by all would lead to a complete breakdown of family and society. We have emotions and attachments and can think ahead and into the past for a reason: it keeps us alive.
@lollolllolllll That is utterly assumed. When what he is talking about is actually understood, you realize there never has been a "you" there, doing life, cooking, riding a bike or taking care when holding a baby. It just happens, no one is doing that.
How sad to have completely missed the point of the ancient teachings on unsatisfactoriness, dukkha, presence and liberation. None of this material stuff matters, it is all mind games, it doesn't take us anywhere. Where does true liberation lie? Love; all embracing universal love, there is no greater liberation than understanding this and no need to look anywhere else.
But however we come to philosophise, there is still the way we actually sense. We still sense space even if it can be proven that 'real' space does not really exist.
It comes down to how words are used to describe this.
Nathan is actually philosophically criticising semantic inferefentialism, a key e.g. of linguistic philosophy i.e. for any proposition, there are a series of consequence relations, and analytic philosophy has implied that this is the sum total of thought.
history of 20th century philosophy is a series of attemts to become either more vital than this or more mathematical-take you pick.
for what i have seen of nathan and jeff, they are freshmen clones of t parson parroting the same politically correct message of nobody there, just this... etc. meditate more before you teach - don´t send a six month old do your shopping, come on!
Tony PArsons is the best out there. BUt he never meditated. IT happened to him. That is why people get this message. PEople awaken without and with meditation or even if you take a shit in the forest, doing nothing.
Actually Parsions had worked with therapy and even was a disciple of Osho, but of course since he's against all kinds of spiritual practice he downplays this part of his story.
Have to agree with lollolllolllll, this is right brain stuff. Yes, there is no "you" or "me" or "time" in the ultimate sense... BUT care should be taken not to see this in a nihilistic way, which takes us very much in the wrong direction. All of the main religions have love as a central part of their teachings, there is a very good reason for this, and it is completely obscured by a nihilistic/Nathanistic view.
Gladwynne1 3 months ago
Strange, I was searching for squirrel videos and I got this weird non duality talk...
talkinghead22 4 months ago
THere is a good reason to see the future and past, to feel emotions, to have attachments and desires: It keeps us alive. "Enlightenment" is an abberation of the physiology of the brain, where the sense of self seated in the left hemisphere has dissolved, leaving the right brain to interpret reality... a one-sided unbalanced interpretation that is in fact, a handicap & not an advantage.
lollolllolllll 5 months ago
A balance of left right brain is needed for survival. What Gill espouses is a purely right brained approach that is an abberation that if practiced or experienced by all would lead to a complete breakdown of family and society. We have emotions and attachments and can think ahead and into the past for a reason: it keeps us alive.
lollolllolllll 5 months ago
@lollolllolllll That is utterly assumed. When what he is talking about is actually understood, you realize there never has been a "you" there, doing life, cooking, riding a bike or taking care when holding a baby. It just happens, no one is doing that.
talkinghead22 4 months ago
I hope someone subtitles Nathan audios into spanish, his pointers will be very good for many people in spanish speaking countries.
acuaman42 5 months ago
How sad to have completely missed the point of the ancient teachings on unsatisfactoriness, dukkha, presence and liberation. None of this material stuff matters, it is all mind games, it doesn't take us anywhere. Where does true liberation lie? Love; all embracing universal love, there is no greater liberation than understanding this and no need to look anywhere else.
Gladwynne1 6 months ago
I suggest to the viewers of this video to read the two books by Nathan Gill, they are some of the best on NONDUALITY in the market, amazon has them.
Good luck
acuaman42 1 year ago
I'm so happy that there are a few people who are (kind of) able to explain the 'seeing/knowing' of THIS.
I can not -- IT leaves me speachless.
In total awe.
Thank you, Nathan.
Rhea303 1 year ago
I really like this audio. Nathan emphasises that nothing needs to happen - there are VERY few teachers that make that clear. Thank you Nathan.
shamash007 1 year ago
But however we come to philosophise, there is still the way we actually sense. We still sense space even if it can be proven that 'real' space does not really exist.
It comes down to how words are used to describe this.
Love2GoHiking 2 years ago
This is nothing but bad philosophy.
NewRightLondon 2 years ago
this is nothing yes!
no-thing happening!
and there is a 'you' thinking it is bad philosophy...that is also what is happening....
the source.
KarameloKaramelo 2 years ago 4
Nathan is actually philosophically criticising semantic inferefentialism, a key e.g. of linguistic philosophy i.e. for any proposition, there are a series of consequence relations, and analytic philosophy has implied that this is the sum total of thought.
history of 20th century philosophy is a series of attemts to become either more vital than this or more mathematical-take you pick.
fizywig 2 years ago
@NewRightLondon You obviously have no clou of what he's talking about. And that's fine.
Rhea303 1 year ago
for what i have seen of nathan and jeff, they are freshmen clones of t parson parroting the same politically correct message of nobody there, just this... etc. meditate more before you teach - don´t send a six month old do your shopping, come on!
TuriyaSurya 2 years ago
I hear the clone-like talking everywhere.......
Tony PArsons is the best out there. BUt he never meditated. IT happened to him. That is why people get this message. PEople awaken without and with meditation or even if you take a shit in the forest, doing nothing.
KarameloKaramelo 2 years ago
Actually Parsions had worked with therapy and even was a disciple of Osho, but of course since he's against all kinds of spiritual practice he downplays this part of his story.
zenm00n 2 years ago
What more needs to be said?
HY34HU 2 years ago
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prajna8 2 years ago
who knows contacts (mail or tel) with Nathan?
Diamoon82 3 years ago
We want more please ...
nevildadrewalla 3 years ago 5
Hi,
many many thanks for Nathan, if you have another recording, please, put it!
dan
770415 3 years ago
Thanks so much for this. I have wanted to watch/hear Nathan Gill for two years now. More please!
NoPlaneZen 3 years ago 3