Good, workable, basic techniques to give you a fighting chance in situations where there is no escape (i.e., you can't run away). Thanks for tackling a difficult subject with useable techniques and street-applicable concepts. To me, this means a chance to survive with a few stitches, as opposed to becoming a cold piece of meat with a toe tag in a coroner's vault.
That is correct. Very bad situation to be in. Do notice that the first order of business is to deflect the arm so it isn't moving so well and then try to grab it. Still, takes a lot of practice and still isn't easy.
At times, yes. But that puts you on one leg momentarily, and he can more easily take you down. So much harder to defend if you end up on the ground, so the risk is quite great. That said, there are times in a stalemate where you can't move his arm that you knee to the groin.
@BurtonRichardson thanks answering me, in the video we can see you attack before the bad guy but most of real knife attack the bad guy attack first and with many blows... so if we can't run what is the best defense ?
Still the same principle. When he moved in close enough I moved first, then he started slashing and I deflected his arm then grabbed it. Same when someone is slashing to begin with- deflect the arm first then grab. But it is very difficult, which is why we first try to use something as a weapon or shield instead of going bare handed. If you must go empty handed, deflect very hard, enter close to smother, and grab the 2 on 1.
This is a big concern, which is why I keep my head in a position where he can't hit me hard. Being hit isn't a problem, being damaged by strikes is. Thanks for the good comment.
Watched this thing several times and I see many opportunities for you to attack his control center before you go for grabbing his arm. It makes it easier(IMO) to control the knife arm once you've disrupted his attack/balance. Most real assaults involve such rapid slashing/stabbing moves at various, unpredictable angles, that it's really hard to just go straight for the knife hand without an attack of your own.
Thanks for the good comment. I understand what you are saying, but trying to knock out a guy who is stabbing and slashing is very dangerous. We have tried that too and it just doesn't work very well, as you take many cuts/stabs. The priority is to control the knife arm. Through practice, you can step in and deflect the first attack, giving you a small opening to secure the arm. Try it at full speed and power and you will see what I mean.
@BurtonRichardson FYI. I respect your work greatly. Worked with this method way back in the 80s with prison guards,, ex cons, bouncers, and that's why I have come to this conclusion.What I meant by disrupting his balance wasn't to try and knock them out, but to throw the intention of an attack(an eyejab/throat strike might land, but don't count on it)before you go for the knife. Really messes with nervous system & makes it much easier/safer when securing the arm.Happy Holidays.
@shniddles Yes, disruption is great, but while you are moving into range to land a punch, eye gouge, etc. you have put yourself in range to be stabbed. It is possible, of course, but against an aggressive attacker, while you hit, he is stabbing or slashing. Again, the main goal is to secure the knife arm. Thanks.
Really great ! Now this is as realistic as you can get without risks of actually getting cut ! that electric knife looks a bit painful though. Thanx for the upload, great inspiration.
Good to see. This is identical to what I teach in Buk Sing Choy Lay Fut, and Combat San Shou. Great work. One of the only realistic knife defenses I have seen.
@88warwolf Even if you are carrying a firearm, there are times where you must first go empty handed against a knife until you can get to your own weapon. If you try to draw as the attacker charges, he will win. Check out the old law enforcement video "Surviving Edged Weapons" and you will see this demonstrated.
Burton: lots of people here keep saying that when an opponent has a knife, one should run away from it.
Here is a suggestion for a game to test this. Have two players, A and B, stand at a normal conversational distance (say one arms length away). At some point, person A pulls out a knife. As soon as B sees the knife, B tries to leave the mat area as fast as he can, and A tries to catch and cut B as fast as he can.
I don't think it will be as easy for B to run away as people think!
@HughSlaman Great suggestion. If people would stop theorizing and actually try out their techniques against real resistance, then they will have a different point of view.
@HughSlaman But the point of training from a civilian point of view is that if you end up in a situation where you cant run, you should try what you learned. But yeah, if someone pulls a knife on you and you got an out take it. But if theres no other possibilities then you'll have to fight no matter what.
Instructor Burton - there are tons of instructors out there who teach knife defense/knife fighting techniques, yet they have never been involved in a real deal, life or death, bladed encounter. What are your thoughts on this? Reason I'm asking is because I remember in one season of TUF, Matt Serra told Marc Laimon - "You're like an expert swimmer who's never been in a pool." Do you feel it is necessary to actually experience something before one goes out and teaches it? Thank you in advance.
@mrkitanai1 That is such an important question. I do believe wholeheartedly that one should have real experience in what they are teaching. Experience shows us all the variables that happen in a free flow situation. I acknowledge that I have never been in a knife fight and I hope that I never am. The closest thing to simulate the knife fight, while retaining safety, is to use the shocknife and have someone come at you. Get EXPERience to be an EXPERt! You'll be a much better teacher.
@BurtonRichardson I agree with you; however, at the same time, I do acknowledge that it is possible to be an excellent coach/teacher in something even if you have not experienced it. I know there are several college football coaches, and even one NFL coach, who have never played any level of organized football before. Also, I am not sure how accurate this is, but someone told me that famed boxing trainer, Angelo Dundee, never boxed competitively.
@mrkitanai1 Yes, it may be possible, but it is always better to have experience. Especially now with all the protective equipment, anyone can train, even if it is at a lower intensity, to really understand what a fighter is going through. Best to test everything under pressure and resistance, especially for those who are going to teach others.
Richardson, this drill looks realistic and is one of the best that I have seen in defending against a knife attack but I didn't see your partner (attacker) use any strikes which is a viable means of preventing you from taking away his knife. It looks like he is trying to get his arm free by pulling away and resisting your hold, and you are effective with securing your hold.
@BubbaJohnIsKing My head is in a position where he cannot strike hard with his free hand. That is an important part of the technique. I expect to be hit, but not hard enough to do any real damage. The main thing is to control the knife arm, as that knife can kill quickly.
Never go for the knife! Ever! Let the guy come to you, let him make the mistake that you can exploit. This was nothing but a tug of war and should NOT be looked at as something viable on the street. THIS WILL GET YOU KILLED! Go to a REAL self-defense or Martial arts school that trains in real life situations. You really can't learn anything from these videos except how NOT to do it. Now I will say that it was good to show it in real time sparring, but damn it. Use some technique!
@AmericanCryer Did you not see that I held on and got the disarm? Is it supposed to look like a movie? This is reality when there is real resistance. Please post some all out sparring. I would love to see what you do when both knife and fist are coming at you.
@BurtonRichardson My problem is that you went for the knife. I know it's not going to be ideal in sparring or a real situation. But I would not have grabbed for the knife. It's just me. I would wait for the guy to come in so I can move out of the way. When you go in that close with someone who has a knife, you are fighting his fight, there was nothing to stop him from switching hands and going in on the other side. I think you guys had the right idea to practice it full speed however.
@BurtonRichardson don't worry about american cryer, he's probably one of those guys that thinks his traditional martial art is the only way to train smart. He's probably incredibly insecure about what his abilities are..so he hypes up his martial art on the internet
I don't care who those guys are, but the best and only defense against knife attack, unless u have one or any other weapon, is to RUN AWAY. What makes me sick about those "experts" is that they let people to believe that one can engage someone armed with knife, with bare hands. NEVER ATTEMPT TO DO THIS. DEADLY.
@arkadi100 And if you are in the situation with your wife or mother? The goal is to be able to run away, but if you have someone to protect, you had better be well-practiced in the most efficient way of dealing with the knife. It is very difficult, but this method works more often than any other I have seen or sparred.
@BurtonRichardson Your close ones would really need top have you alive and well insteady of watching you being disabled. As I said already, if the attaker, not your GYM partner, is holding blade to your throat, he never had intention to hit you with this blade. Tell me, why would you want to piss him off and give him other ideas?
@arkadi100 Yes but what If you are cornered and you have no running option? Yes you could run, But If you ghave no other option, this is good to know.
The best is to hit the attacker in the nose/eyes/throat/balls etc. And run away... In theory.
In fact this is really a bad situation, never underestimate it... Don't give a damn about honor or any self defending experience, think about your life, no need to attempt jackie chan moves or whatever.
@PoppinCheese If you are close enough to land a punch, he is close enough to run the knife through your throat. It is very dangerous to try to strike unless you can throw one strike and run.
@BurtonRichardson This is the point. I was trained and it was later proved to be so right, NEVER to allow your opponent closer than your extended elbow.
In your experience, is it possible to defend yourself empty handed against three pissed off men with knives? Dadashi, Iran's strongest man and powerlifter, was killed in such a way.
@UnitedStatesOfChina One determined knife attacker is very difficult. Three is nearly impossible, regardless of your skill. The only chance is to out run them or have a firearm out and ready as they approach. Sorry to hear about Dadashi.
@Burton Richardson- I totally agree with you and that is exactly why we I don't teach that traditional Krav Maga technique against the knife. I will shoot a video of the way I teach it and post for your review and comment! Thanks again for the correspondence. I enjoy learning from all true pros like you.
@kravmaga4life Thank you. I look forward to seeing the video. Please include some sparring against a fully resisting partner so that we see what it looks like in action.
The bottom line here is that there are no fullproof methods against an attacker who is armed and wants to kill you. We must train and adapt constantly. I believe that in a circumstance like this you have to hit the attacker. You have to strike sensitive areas groin, eyes, nose and throat. Grappling by itself will get you killed vs a knife. The video is very good and again the use of the shocknife clearly shows that Mr. Richardson is dealing in reality not fancy techniques.
@kravmaga4life Thank you for your comment. I think you should try sparring at 100% to see what happens when you grab with only one hand while striking. You can't assume that a strike is going to finish the opponent, or even daze him. If he is on drugs, it will do nothing to him. Securing the knife is the first priority.
I want to first say thank you for putting the video up. I want to recognize you for your accomplishments in the field of combative systems! I love the fact that you use a shocknife in the demo as I truly believe that the aparatus provides a level of reality that most instructors will not want to use in their training. There are some technical questions that I have regarding the methodology behind your defense. Is taking him to the ground part of the defense as you teach it?
@kravmaga4life Thank you for the kind words. Going to the ground is the last option, used when the first methods of disarm fail or are not available. Since my partner Scott Ishihara knows the disarms, he defended them so my only option was to turn my back and go to the ground. The disarm is very secure in that position, but you risk having others run up and kick you in the head! Still, it works very well.
I thought this video was a very good demonstration of your 2 on 1 method. How would you deal with the attacker if you got your 2 on 1, but the attacker started throwing heavy strikes with his free hand? If you haven't done a video on that scenario, maybe you could create one. :) Thanks!
@kevin770 Keeping the head very close, the power of the blows are greatly diminished. Very unlikely that he could knock you out from that close. The knife is what can kill you, so keep that 2 on 1 until you get the disarm.
Far too much grappling and a VERY high use of energy. You better be is REALLY great shape or you're gonna be a human pin cushion very quickly. At no time was the attacker in any fear of being hurt, there were just not attacks at any of his vitals.
Knife defense is never easy but I just don't think this should be your first option.
@Whammer79 I understand where you are coming from, but striking rarely stops a person right away. If you strike and miss, you are indeed a human pin cushion. In all the full power pressure testing, it becomes clear that the most effective way to handle the knife attacker (although still very difficult) is to get to the 2 on 1. If the person stays outside and doesn't commit, then you may be able to strike. That's why I wore grappling gloves; just in case that scenario occurred, I could hit.
I get where you're coming from too. The subject of knife defense is very complex and the knife can be so deadly that there just are no easy answers or fail safe tech's.
I find it is more effective to use the Applegate style of knife defense, and kick out the knee during his approach. Anyone who has trained with a kicking art can easily kick out the knee while the knife cannot reach.
@MayAllMyDelusions Thanks for your comment. The whole idea of entering so hard is to smother and avoid letting him get repeated jabs in. If you stay in a range where he can "jab like crazy", yes, you don't stand a chance. That is why you have to have the courage to enter very hard.
@SuperSeonghoon That is part of the curriculum. I call it the running attack. Main thing is to sidestep the initial rush, then deal with the subsequent attack. Of course, if someone sneaks up and shanks it is another story. Awareness first.
wow that's a good training method. i think it's like with the unarmed martial arts: the one that are trained full contact are the most effective, no choreographed bs :)
i carry a strong oc spray everwhere i go to be prepared against somebody who draws a knife to harm me
@ThomasMin1988 Thanks for the comment. Oc spray is a great tool. Some of our law enforcement officers use a small, travel size deodorant spray can to simulate oc spray during sparring.
our sikaran/askal balintawak master taught us to face the knife. especially when you protect your loved one. I'd rather get stabbed than seeing my parents or sibling getting stabbed to death
@PeidoLord The idea is to minimize the amount of damage. The knife attacker has such a great advantage that the main concept is to survive the attack. This method works very well in doing that, but expect to get cut and more than once.
Nice vid for unarmed combat against a knife wielder.
I do prefer my method though, which generally consists of pulling a Glock 23, aiming at the guy's chest and shooting him to the ground. Slightly more effective IMHO.
The medieval fechbuchs, which were often written by men who actually used daggers and knives in deadly combat (and trained men to do the same) emphasize the importance of isolating the knife arm. As Fiore Dei Liberi wrote in Flos Duelletorum concerning the dagger:
"and I shall do these five things always: Namely I take the dagger and strike, i break the arms and I bind them and I force him to the ground"
@temmy9 Thank you for your comment. I love studying those texts. Just last week I quoted Fillipo Vadi in class- "How many persons died because they did not like the art, and so they closed their doors of life...
@BurtonRichardson What i find interesting is that the same techniques are repeated across the manuals stretching over several centuries of time and different types of knives and daggers. They all stress the same points. Given who wrote them, when they were written and why, one would figure that those techniques (which involve isolating the knife arm) MUST work.
@temmy9 Yes, I agree. The great thing is that with modern technology (good helmets, training knives, and video to analyze) we can practice at a higher intensity level and refine even more. But we have to test realistically or we drift into fantasy.
Interesting. I've made pretty the same thing. I pulled an attackers arm down and crushed fingers on the asphalt. Buy the way you can't really escape knife encounter, cause an attacker always can throw it in your back. So your tactics look very natural. However it is risky as hell.
Have them run like hell too. What you just did was grapple with a knife-attacker, which is suicidal. Why the hell didn't he ever once punch your throat or go at your face with his empty hand? Or even his kidney?
Real attackers are trying to hurt you, not focus on you holding your knife. This means that while both your hands are occupied, your face and throat are being beaten to a pulp with their other hand.
@Orthrus Look at where my head is. My face and throat are protected from the other hand. I am not one to run and leave a loved one to fend for him/herself. I can't see myself running from my wife who is holding our infant. And if you want to have a chance, you need to try this kind of training so that you can cover as many of the variables as possible.
They're not. At any moment he could have reached his arm to the front of your head instead of the back of it.
On top of that he was literally behind you, and instead of reaching around to your throat and face, grabbed you under your armpit. Nor did he even try to hit your kidneys.
And you're arguing 28 ninjas with mac-10s. Or does your wife not know how to run?
There will never be a case where someone jumps out of the bushes like this and you need to fight them. Ever.
The only time you'll face is a knife is if you're being mugged or you just had a good drawn out argument with someone and pissed them off enough to draw a knife. In both those situations all that you need to do is either walk away or give them what they want.
The only exception to this is rape, and you can't seriously claim there's a rapist out there that will attack two people at once instead of waiting for someone alone.
@Orthrus You wrote "The only time you'll face is a knife is if you're being mugged or you just had a good drawn out argument with someone and pissed them off enough to draw a knife." What you have said here has pissed me off enough to want to trace your location and stab you with a knife. Now please give me what I want and delete these uninformed comments.
Real knife attacks look like this: they won't stab you. They'll slap you in the face with their empty hand. If you fail to block, your vison's screwed, and you're stabbed. If you DO block, your vision is still screwed, and they stab.
The knife won't be extended out for you to grab it, and when they thrust they won't leave their hand outstretched, they'll withdraw it out of your reach and then stab you again.
@Orthrus Nobody ever gets attacked at random by a knife-wielding attacker? Interesting world you live in. The reason the "attacker" in the video did not go to my back is because he knows that it is actually easier for me to get the disarm when he moves behind me. I just keep my chin tucked, and it is my two hands against his one. He didn't want to give the disarm, so he opted to stay at the side. Try this for yourself. There are many theories- just try sparring hard and you will see.
Indeed it's an interesting world I'm in. I'm more curious about what kind of insanely dangerous city you must live in to worry about people stabbing you for no reason at all after they jump out of a bush with a knife.
Or has that ever actually happened to you? Both times when I had a knife pulled on me was the result of me being stupid enough to argue with the guy and piss him off enough to threaten with it. How'd I survive? By putting up my hands and walking away from him.
@Orthrus We all live in the very same insanely dangerous world where an unlikely group of nineteen young men armed with boxcutters rammed planes into buildings. If that can happen, then why is an attack by a knife weilder so hard to believe? 9/11 happened because there were enough people, like you, saying "Why would we worry about that? Just don't piss off the hijackers and gve them what they want etc. etc."
Look, I don't mean to sound aggressive and accusing here, but you're really describing 29 ninjas with MAC-10s. It's a delusion, as is the idea that people actually attack you like demonstrated here and every other martial arts video out there, and that it's actually possible to grab onto and grapple with them like that.
@Orthrus First, I teach a lot of military personnel. One of the soldiers survived a surprise knife attack, and I had a student grapple a knife away from a burglar in Los Angeles. Second, my students get to this disarm in full sparring all the time. I suggest that you actually try these things out before you criticize.
@Orthrus You wrote: "The knife won't be extended out for you to grab it, and when they thrust they won't leave their hand outstretched, they'll withdraw it out of your reach and then stab you again." And you say this based on your vast experience of being stabbed with a knife? Don't think that just because you can't do something, others share your limitations. People who train can do things that you can't
The problem with training for a situation like this is not every one goes full weight force into a stab, the second someone tries a different tactict youre pretty much screwed.
@Linkfanoftheyear Thank you for your comment. It is true that the fighter who fakes and changes angles is even more difficult to subdue, but these tactics are factored in. In this video, I thought he was coming with an angle 1, but adjusted to the lower slash. Through lots of sparring you can make the adjustment. It's not easy, but training gives you a much better chance.
Very cool; I have trained with rubber/toy knives dipped in paint. In the heat of the moment, you really may not be aware of whether you have actually been stabbed by one of these toys and think you did a great job defending yourself, but the paint tells the tale. It amazes me how so many people doing/watching self-defense courses are confident they can disarm a knife attacker when they have never actually ever done so against a fully resisting attacker in their lives.
@nHautamaki "It amazes me how so many people doing/watching self-defense courses are confident they can disarm a knife attacker when they have never actually ever done so against a fully resisting attacker in their lives." So true. That is false confidence. A few live training sessions will expose the holes- better that then to be full of holes in a real situation!
Finally reality! This is one of the most realistic, most effective knife defense technique. If someone don't agree with me, that someone probably has never been attacked by a real knife in a real fight. Good Job.
@dtoscano74 Thank you for your comment. Realistic testing with 100% resistance leads to realistic techniques. Pretty simple, but most people will not spar at this intensity to find out what really works.
It is especially interesting to note that in ALL the reality "unarmed vs knife" methods (STAB, Redzone, your etc) a big part of it involves "forward pressure" and "having base" - the difficult-to-describe concepts that you can only get from live grappling practice.
In contrast, this is non existent in traditional Kali, Krav Maga, Traditional JJ... all the arts that don't do "full contact disarming".
Not that there is only ONE way of doing things, but just an observation.
It's amazing how 'forward pressure' makes it so much easier to control/disarm... and scary to think how this concept is lost on just about everyone who does'nt do full resistance disarming.
very nice, we learn some of this in jiujitsu, Im very fortunate we have a rotational weapon disarments and standup fighting class too....It is essential to learn those two in martial arts...
Someone pulls a knife you pull off your belt and whip that fool to death! HA! A metal belt buckle on a 34 inch piece of leather will outreach a knife anyday! Thats how you handle it on the streets.
@killersushi99 A good belt swung hard has merit, but that is assuming that you have the time and distance to undo your buckle and pull the belt off. If someone shows up in front of you with knife, you must be able to handle it empty hands.
@BurtonRichardson: We've done the same un-choreograph/realistic attack (specially attacker knows how to use a knife) and found out that the best way to disarm an opponent is to get hold of his single arm away from the other arm to avoid knife switching then draw it to the ground so he could not swing it while you're disarming it. Cuts and punches won't be avoided ofcourse but would you notice it if your adrenalin is too high ^_^
I'd say this is one good way to test whatever we've learned.
@gcbarone Great question. During the footage shot for this video, the knife was arcing while on the mat and I didn't see any damage. Other students have gotten to the same position without damaging the mats. So far so good!
@RhadeConstantine Thank you- it has taken 20 years of learning and high intensity experimentation to get to this point. My sincere gratitude to all my instructors and sparring partners.
@skunkapotamus He was pretty committed! Once I got in, he know that there was a danger of having the knife turned back on him, which is why he always kept an exit route ready.
yea you got cut for a second there, it means the grip strength is gone and probably massive bleeding especially if the slit is on the wrist that would mean swimming in blood and death in a few minutes.
@6SpAr6TAN69 Not on the wrist, was on the inside of my little finger. But regardless, the idea is to train realistically. Otherwise, you have no chance at all.
@CorporalNim A cut on the hand usually does not induce shock. A deep cut, especially to blood vessels or a thrust into organs, causes shock. A friend of mine took a knife away from an assailant, and was cut in the hand during the process. No shock, just bleeding. But the point is, this is an effective method to handle an aggressive knife attacker.
When you defend against a knife against a competent attacker expect to AT LEAST get cut. Often times getting cut does not mean that shock shock will instantly set in.
This training was great ! its practical...and it really do happen in real knife fights..wherein you have to sacrifice being cut to save your life...This was awesome...Mr Richardson was a great instructor / writer / director / fight choreographer
I've been taught never to try and control a knife hand. As there are very few situations in which the knife won't be able to cut you when being controlled with empty hand. Without meaning to sound rude - why control it, with the risk of getting your arm sliced, when you can make them drop the knife?
@pikassproductions Thanks for the question. How in the world do you get them to drop the knife without controlling it first? When someone rushes you, the chance of landing a knockout blow (punch, kick to the groin, eye strike, etc.) is very, very low. If you spar hard you will see that the best solution is to control the knife arm. Teachers who don't spar will rely on theory that is not sound. I hope this helps you.
@BurtonRichardson I'm not saying that your methods don't work, just to me it looks risky that's all, I could be wrong. However I have been taught to either hit nerves or use what's called a gun ting (I think that's how it's spelt) which is like a scissor action either side of the arm to make them drop the knife.
@pikassproductions Notice that you watched a video of full sparring where the technique works, but think that a technique that someone showed you, without testing it in sparring, is better. This is the common error in martial arts- to believe without testing. I suggest that you put on equipment and have someone come after you all out and see what actually happens, instead of just theorizing. You will become a much better martial artist, because you will have fighting experience.
So glad to see people actually practice this, instead of relying on compliant partners and hypothetical situations! Good work, LD!
dougdoug2006 2 weeks ago
@dougdoug2006
Exactly the point- practicing with a cooperative partner can lead us to believe in all sorts of techniques that only work against a compliant person.
BurtonRichardson 1 week ago
Good, workable, basic techniques to give you a fighting chance in situations where there is no escape (i.e., you can't run away). Thanks for tackling a difficult subject with useable techniques and street-applicable concepts. To me, this means a chance to survive with a few stitches, as opposed to becoming a cold piece of meat with a toe tag in a coroner's vault.
carnivalwrestler 3 weeks ago
@carnivalwrestler
Thank you for the comment. Yes, that is the idea exactly- to give us a fighting chance if we can't run. Well put.
BurtonRichardson 3 weeks ago
where can i get one of those electric knifes?
EpicComplaints 1 month ago
@EpicComplaints
Go to the Shocknife website. Amazing tools. Tell them that I sent you.
BurtonRichardson 1 month ago
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jy24367 1 month ago
right off the bat you miss that grab you are screwed
un7ucky 1 month ago
@un7ucky
That is correct. Very bad situation to be in. Do notice that the first order of business is to deflect the arm so it isn't moving so well and then try to grab it. Still, takes a lot of practice and still isn't easy.
BurtonRichardson 1 month ago
why don't you kick the balls in the same time ? thanks.
SuperOwni 2 months ago
@SuperOwni
At times, yes. But that puts you on one leg momentarily, and he can more easily take you down. So much harder to defend if you end up on the ground, so the risk is quite great. That said, there are times in a stalemate where you can't move his arm that you knee to the groin.
BurtonRichardson 2 months ago
@BurtonRichardson thanks answering me, in the video we can see you attack before the bad guy but most of real knife attack the bad guy attack first and with many blows... so if we can't run what is the best defense ?
SuperOwni 2 months ago
@SuperOwni
Still the same principle. When he moved in close enough I moved first, then he started slashing and I deflected his arm then grabbed it. Same when someone is slashing to begin with- deflect the arm first then grab. But it is very difficult, which is why we first try to use something as a weapon or shield instead of going bare handed. If you must go empty handed, deflect very hard, enter close to smother, and grab the 2 on 1.
BurtonRichardson 1 month ago
@BurtonRichardson thanks you and happy new year !
SuperOwni 1 month ago
No problem. Nice to see an instructor who just talks to you and doesn't feel offended by the simplest questions.
TheRoeliskoel 2 months ago
@TheRoeliskoel
I am offended that you thought I might be offended. :) If we are looking for the truth, any question is welcome. Thanks.
BurtonRichardson 2 months ago
Very cool. But what if he starts hitting you with his free hand?
TheRoeliskoel 2 months ago
@TheRoeliskoel
This is a big concern, which is why I keep my head in a position where he can't hit me hard. Being hit isn't a problem, being damaged by strikes is. Thanks for the good comment.
BurtonRichardson 2 months ago
Never give your opponent a chance. Ones your on top of him, then stay on top.
Wesley95501 2 months ago
Watched this thing several times and I see many opportunities for you to attack his control center before you go for grabbing his arm. It makes it easier(IMO) to control the knife arm once you've disrupted his attack/balance. Most real assaults involve such rapid slashing/stabbing moves at various, unpredictable angles, that it's really hard to just go straight for the knife hand without an attack of your own.
ojibwe69 2 months ago
@ojibwe69
Thanks for the good comment. I understand what you are saying, but trying to knock out a guy who is stabbing and slashing is very dangerous. We have tried that too and it just doesn't work very well, as you take many cuts/stabs. The priority is to control the knife arm. Through practice, you can step in and deflect the first attack, giving you a small opening to secure the arm. Try it at full speed and power and you will see what I mean.
BurtonRichardson 2 months ago
@BurtonRichardson FYI. I respect your work greatly. Worked with this method way back in the 80s with prison guards,, ex cons, bouncers, and that's why I have come to this conclusion.What I meant by disrupting his balance wasn't to try and knock them out, but to throw the intention of an attack(an eyejab/throat strike might land, but don't count on it)before you go for the knife. Really messes with nervous system & makes it much easier/safer when securing the arm.Happy Holidays.
shniddles 2 months ago
@shniddles Yes, disruption is great, but while you are moving into range to land a punch, eye gouge, etc. you have put yourself in range to be stabbed. It is possible, of course, but against an aggressive attacker, while you hit, he is stabbing or slashing. Again, the main goal is to secure the knife arm. Thanks.
BurtonRichardson 2 months ago
Really great ! Now this is as realistic as you can get without risks of actually getting cut ! that electric knife looks a bit painful though. Thanx for the upload, great inspiration.
reyedk 3 months ago
@reyedk Thank you. Glad you appreciate testing everything with true resistance.
BurtonRichardson 3 months ago
realistic
fled06 3 months ago
Good to see. This is identical to what I teach in Buk Sing Choy Lay Fut, and Combat San Shou. Great work. One of the only realistic knife defenses I have seen.
PutYourHeadOut 3 months ago
this is all bs. buy a proper handgun and go to a training facility to learn how to use it. this kind of nonsense will get you killed.
88warwolf 3 months ago
@88warwolf Even if you are carrying a firearm, there are times where you must first go empty handed against a knife until you can get to your own weapon. If you try to draw as the attacker charges, he will win. Check out the old law enforcement video "Surviving Edged Weapons" and you will see this demonstrated.
BurtonRichardson 3 months ago
Burton: lots of people here keep saying that when an opponent has a knife, one should run away from it.
Here is a suggestion for a game to test this. Have two players, A and B, stand at a normal conversational distance (say one arms length away). At some point, person A pulls out a knife. As soon as B sees the knife, B tries to leave the mat area as fast as he can, and A tries to catch and cut B as fast as he can.
I don't think it will be as easy for B to run away as people think!
HughSlaman 4 months ago
@HughSlaman Great suggestion. If people would stop theorizing and actually try out their techniques against real resistance, then they will have a different point of view.
BurtonRichardson 3 months ago
@HughSlaman But the point of training from a civilian point of view is that if you end up in a situation where you cant run, you should try what you learned. But yeah, if someone pulls a knife on you and you got an out take it. But if theres no other possibilities then you'll have to fight no matter what.
Churchx77 2 months ago
@Churchx77 Exactly. Thank you for your comment.
BurtonRichardson 2 months ago
Instructor Burton - there are tons of instructors out there who teach knife defense/knife fighting techniques, yet they have never been involved in a real deal, life or death, bladed encounter. What are your thoughts on this? Reason I'm asking is because I remember in one season of TUF, Matt Serra told Marc Laimon - "You're like an expert swimmer who's never been in a pool." Do you feel it is necessary to actually experience something before one goes out and teaches it? Thank you in advance.
mrkitanai1 4 months ago
@mrkitanai1 That is such an important question. I do believe wholeheartedly that one should have real experience in what they are teaching. Experience shows us all the variables that happen in a free flow situation. I acknowledge that I have never been in a knife fight and I hope that I never am. The closest thing to simulate the knife fight, while retaining safety, is to use the shocknife and have someone come at you. Get EXPERience to be an EXPERt! You'll be a much better teacher.
BurtonRichardson 4 months ago
@BurtonRichardson I agree with you; however, at the same time, I do acknowledge that it is possible to be an excellent coach/teacher in something even if you have not experienced it. I know there are several college football coaches, and even one NFL coach, who have never played any level of organized football before. Also, I am not sure how accurate this is, but someone told me that famed boxing trainer, Angelo Dundee, never boxed competitively.
mrkitanai1 4 months ago
@mrkitanai1 Yes, it may be possible, but it is always better to have experience. Especially now with all the protective equipment, anyone can train, even if it is at a lower intensity, to really understand what a fighter is going through. Best to test everything under pressure and resistance, especially for those who are going to teach others.
BurtonRichardson 3 months ago
Richardson, this drill looks realistic and is one of the best that I have seen in defending against a knife attack but I didn't see your partner (attacker) use any strikes which is a viable means of preventing you from taking away his knife. It looks like he is trying to get his arm free by pulling away and resisting your hold, and you are effective with securing your hold.
BubbaJohnIsKing 5 months ago
@BubbaJohnIsKing My head is in a position where he cannot strike hard with his free hand. That is an important part of the technique. I expect to be hit, but not hard enough to do any real damage. The main thing is to control the knife arm, as that knife can kill quickly.
BurtonRichardson 5 months ago
Never go for the knife! Ever! Let the guy come to you, let him make the mistake that you can exploit. This was nothing but a tug of war and should NOT be looked at as something viable on the street. THIS WILL GET YOU KILLED! Go to a REAL self-defense or Martial arts school that trains in real life situations. You really can't learn anything from these videos except how NOT to do it. Now I will say that it was good to show it in real time sparring, but damn it. Use some technique!
AmericanCryer 5 months ago
@AmericanCryer Did you not see that I held on and got the disarm? Is it supposed to look like a movie? This is reality when there is real resistance. Please post some all out sparring. I would love to see what you do when both knife and fist are coming at you.
BurtonRichardson 5 months ago 3
@BurtonRichardson My problem is that you went for the knife. I know it's not going to be ideal in sparring or a real situation. But I would not have grabbed for the knife. It's just me. I would wait for the guy to come in so I can move out of the way. When you go in that close with someone who has a knife, you are fighting his fight, there was nothing to stop him from switching hands and going in on the other side. I think you guys had the right idea to practice it full speed however.
AmericanCryer 5 months ago
@AmericanCryer I turn my back so he can't switch hands. That comes from going full speed and full power. Give it a try!
BurtonRichardson 5 months ago
@BurtonRichardson don't worry about american cryer, he's probably one of those guys that thinks his traditional martial art is the only way to train smart. He's probably incredibly insecure about what his abilities are..so he hypes up his martial art on the internet
newerest1 5 months ago
I don't care who those guys are, but the best and only defense against knife attack, unless u have one or any other weapon, is to RUN AWAY. What makes me sick about those "experts" is that they let people to believe that one can engage someone armed with knife, with bare hands. NEVER ATTEMPT TO DO THIS. DEADLY.
arkadi100 6 months ago 3
@arkadi100 And if you are in the situation with your wife or mother? The goal is to be able to run away, but if you have someone to protect, you had better be well-practiced in the most efficient way of dealing with the knife. It is very difficult, but this method works more often than any other I have seen or sparred.
BurtonRichardson 6 months ago 10
@BurtonRichardson Your close ones would really need top have you alive and well insteady of watching you being disabled. As I said already, if the attaker, not your GYM partner, is holding blade to your throat, he never had intention to hit you with this blade. Tell me, why would you want to piss him off and give him other ideas?
arkadi100 6 months ago
@arkadi100 Did he start with a blade at my throat? Have you seen the news of people stabbing others for no reason?
BurtonRichardson 5 months ago
@arkadi100 Yes but what If you are cornered and you have no running option? Yes you could run, But If you ghave no other option, this is good to know.
h0axkill3roblox 5 months ago
@h0axkill3roblox Exactly. Can't hope your way out of a horrible situation.
BurtonRichardson 5 months ago
The best is to hit the attacker in the nose/eyes/throat/balls etc. And run away... In theory.
In fact this is really a bad situation, never underestimate it... Don't give a damn about honor or any self defending experience, think about your life, no need to attempt jackie chan moves or whatever.
PoppinCheese 6 months ago
@PoppinCheese If you are close enough to land a punch, he is close enough to run the knife through your throat. It is very dangerous to try to strike unless you can throw one strike and run.
BurtonRichardson 6 months ago 3
@BurtonRichardson This is the point. I was trained and it was later proved to be so right, NEVER to allow your opponent closer than your extended elbow.
arkadi100 6 months ago
@arkadi100 Have you watched MMA? Strikers don't want grapplers to close but they do. Don't limit yourself.
BurtonRichardson 5 months ago
@BurtonRichardson Ill send u a pic, just in case.....
arkadi100 5 months ago
@arkadi100 A video would be much better. We need to see how much resistance there is. Enjoy!
BurtonRichardson 5 months ago
In your experience, is it possible to defend yourself empty handed against three pissed off men with knives? Dadashi, Iran's strongest man and powerlifter, was killed in such a way.
UnitedStatesOfChina 7 months ago
@UnitedStatesOfChina One determined knife attacker is very difficult. Three is nearly impossible, regardless of your skill. The only chance is to out run them or have a firearm out and ready as they approach. Sorry to hear about Dadashi.
BurtonRichardson 7 months ago
@Burton Richardson- I totally agree with you and that is exactly why we I don't teach that traditional Krav Maga technique against the knife. I will shoot a video of the way I teach it and post for your review and comment! Thanks again for the correspondence. I enjoy learning from all true pros like you.
kravmaga4life 7 months ago
@kravmaga4life Thank you. I look forward to seeing the video. Please include some sparring against a fully resisting partner so that we see what it looks like in action.
BurtonRichardson 7 months ago
Where do you get one of these devices?
Ronnock 7 months ago
The bottom line here is that there are no fullproof methods against an attacker who is armed and wants to kill you. We must train and adapt constantly. I believe that in a circumstance like this you have to hit the attacker. You have to strike sensitive areas groin, eyes, nose and throat. Grappling by itself will get you killed vs a knife. The video is very good and again the use of the shocknife clearly shows that Mr. Richardson is dealing in reality not fancy techniques.
kravmaga4life 7 months ago
@kravmaga4life Thank you for your comment. I think you should try sparring at 100% to see what happens when you grab with only one hand while striking. You can't assume that a strike is going to finish the opponent, or even daze him. If he is on drugs, it will do nothing to him. Securing the knife is the first priority.
BurtonRichardson 7 months ago
Burton,
I want to first say thank you for putting the video up. I want to recognize you for your accomplishments in the field of combative systems! I love the fact that you use a shocknife in the demo as I truly believe that the aparatus provides a level of reality that most instructors will not want to use in their training. There are some technical questions that I have regarding the methodology behind your defense. Is taking him to the ground part of the defense as you teach it?
kravmaga4life 7 months ago
@kravmaga4life Thank you for the kind words. Going to the ground is the last option, used when the first methods of disarm fail or are not available. Since my partner Scott Ishihara knows the disarms, he defended them so my only option was to turn my back and go to the ground. The disarm is very secure in that position, but you risk having others run up and kick you in the head! Still, it works very well.
BurtonRichardson 7 months ago
nice vid
SquishyPuddings 7 months ago
I thought this video was a very good demonstration of your 2 on 1 method. How would you deal with the attacker if you got your 2 on 1, but the attacker started throwing heavy strikes with his free hand? If you haven't done a video on that scenario, maybe you could create one. :) Thanks!
kevin770 8 months ago
@kevin770 Keeping the head very close, the power of the blows are greatly diminished. Very unlikely that he could knock you out from that close. The knife is what can kill you, so keep that 2 on 1 until you get the disarm.
BurtonRichardson 8 months ago
Far too much grappling and a VERY high use of energy. You better be is REALLY great shape or you're gonna be a human pin cushion very quickly. At no time was the attacker in any fear of being hurt, there were just not attacks at any of his vitals.
Knife defense is never easy but I just don't think this should be your first option.
Whammer79 8 months ago
@Whammer79 I understand where you are coming from, but striking rarely stops a person right away. If you strike and miss, you are indeed a human pin cushion. In all the full power pressure testing, it becomes clear that the most effective way to handle the knife attacker (although still very difficult) is to get to the 2 on 1. If the person stays outside and doesn't commit, then you may be able to strike. That's why I wore grappling gloves; just in case that scenario occurred, I could hit.
BurtonRichardson 8 months ago
@BurtonRichardson
I get where you're coming from too. The subject of knife defense is very complex and the knife can be so deadly that there just are no easy answers or fail safe tech's.
Whammer79 8 months ago
@Whammer79 That is correct- no fail safe techniques. The knife wielding attacker has a huge advantage.
BurtonRichardson 8 months ago
at 1:35 it sounds like preditor
BLOOD2298 8 months ago
I find it is more effective to use the Applegate style of knife defense, and kick out the knee during his approach. Anyone who has trained with a kicking art can easily kick out the knee while the knife cannot reach.
tcgthevidiots 8 months ago
i just think it was a poor attack. If he had just been jabbing at you like crazy and moving his arm around you would not have stood a chance.
MayAllMyDelusions 9 months ago
@MayAllMyDelusions Thanks for your comment. The whole idea of entering so hard is to smother and avoid letting him get repeated jabs in. If you stay in a range where he can "jab like crazy", yes, you don't stand a chance. That is why you have to have the courage to enter very hard.
BurtonRichardson 9 months ago 8
Can you please post a video showing how to defend against a prison yard rush?
SuperSeonghoon 9 months ago 3
@SuperSeonghoon That is part of the curriculum. I call it the running attack. Main thing is to sidestep the initial rush, then deal with the subsequent attack. Of course, if someone sneaks up and shanks it is another story. Awareness first.
BurtonRichardson 9 months ago
wow that's a good training method. i think it's like with the unarmed martial arts: the one that are trained full contact are the most effective, no choreographed bs :)
i carry a strong oc spray everwhere i go to be prepared against somebody who draws a knife to harm me
ThomasMin1988 9 months ago
@ThomasMin1988 Thanks for the comment. Oc spray is a great tool. Some of our law enforcement officers use a small, travel size deodorant spray can to simulate oc spray during sparring.
BurtonRichardson 9 months ago
our sikaran/askal balintawak master taught us to face the knife. especially when you protect your loved one. I'd rather get stabbed than seeing my parents or sibling getting stabbed to death
gottaLOVEBrazJJ 10 months ago
@gottaLOVEBrazJJ That is correct. Honor over safety.
BurtonRichardson 10 months ago
What if he was
Chuck Norris?
GrimPro123 10 months ago
@GrimPro123 He wouldn't need a knife!
BurtonRichardson 10 months ago 2
1:34 OMFG your fighting Predator.
newspapertux 10 months ago
How can you ensure that you won't get hurt in the disarm process? Even the instructor in the video got cut once...
Great video, though!
PeidoLord 10 months ago
@PeidoLord The idea is to minimize the amount of damage. The knife attacker has such a great advantage that the main concept is to survive the attack. This method works very well in doing that, but expect to get cut and more than once.
BurtonRichardson 10 months ago
@PeidoLord A slash to the arm that can be treated w/ stitches, is much better than a slash to a major artery, or organ, resulting in death.
muayboran74 10 months ago
@muayboran74 Precisely. The goal is to avoid major trauma.
BurtonRichardson 10 months ago
Nice vid for unarmed combat against a knife wielder.
I do prefer my method though, which generally consists of pulling a Glock 23, aiming at the guy's chest and shooting him to the ground. Slightly more effective IMHO.
LittleDragon5 11 months ago
@LittleDragon5 I prefer your method as well. This is for when the attacker is so close that you don't have time to draw. Glock Fu whenever possible!
BurtonRichardson 11 months ago
AWESOME !!!!!!!!!!
Revanxxx1 11 months ago
The medieval fechbuchs, which were often written by men who actually used daggers and knives in deadly combat (and trained men to do the same) emphasize the importance of isolating the knife arm. As Fiore Dei Liberi wrote in Flos Duelletorum concerning the dagger:
"and I shall do these five things always: Namely I take the dagger and strike, i break the arms and I bind them and I force him to the ground"
temmy9 11 months ago
@temmy9 Thank you for your comment. I love studying those texts. Just last week I quoted Fillipo Vadi in class- "How many persons died because they did not like the art, and so they closed their doors of life...
BurtonRichardson 11 months ago
@BurtonRichardson What i find interesting is that the same techniques are repeated across the manuals stretching over several centuries of time and different types of knives and daggers. They all stress the same points. Given who wrote them, when they were written and why, one would figure that those techniques (which involve isolating the knife arm) MUST work.
temmy9 10 months ago
@temmy9 Yes, I agree. The great thing is that with modern technology (good helmets, training knives, and video to analyze) we can practice at a higher intensity level and refine even more. But we have to test realistically or we drift into fantasy.
BurtonRichardson 10 months ago
Interesting. I've made pretty the same thing. I pulled an attackers arm down and crushed fingers on the asphalt. Buy the way you can't really escape knife encounter, cause an attacker always can throw it in your back. So your tactics look very natural. However it is risky as hell.
saintfather 1 year ago
My tactic for dealing with a knife-wielding attacker would be to run like hell.
YourSkankyMom 1 year ago
@YourSkankyMom That is the best way, but what happens when you have some you have to protect?
BurtonRichardson 1 year ago
@BurtonRichardson Hope they can keep up! LOL
YourSkankyMom 1 year ago
@BurtonRichardson run with them :)
Darkstarpixel 1 year ago
@BurtonRichardson
Have them run like hell too. What you just did was grapple with a knife-attacker, which is suicidal. Why the hell didn't he ever once punch your throat or go at your face with his empty hand? Or even his kidney?
Real attackers are trying to hurt you, not focus on you holding your knife. This means that while both your hands are occupied, your face and throat are being beaten to a pulp with their other hand.
Orthrus 1 year ago
@Orthrus Look at where my head is. My face and throat are protected from the other hand. I am not one to run and leave a loved one to fend for him/herself. I can't see myself running from my wife who is holding our infant. And if you want to have a chance, you need to try this kind of training so that you can cover as many of the variables as possible.
BurtonRichardson 1 year ago
@BurtonRichardson
They're not. At any moment he could have reached his arm to the front of your head instead of the back of it.
On top of that he was literally behind you, and instead of reaching around to your throat and face, grabbed you under your armpit. Nor did he even try to hit your kidneys.
And you're arguing 28 ninjas with mac-10s. Or does your wife not know how to run?
There will never be a case where someone jumps out of the bushes like this and you need to fight them. Ever.
Orthrus 1 year ago
@BurtonRichardson
To continue onward from my previous comment:
The only time you'll face is a knife is if you're being mugged or you just had a good drawn out argument with someone and pissed them off enough to draw a knife. In both those situations all that you need to do is either walk away or give them what they want.
The only exception to this is rape, and you can't seriously claim there's a rapist out there that will attack two people at once instead of waiting for someone alone.
Orthrus 1 year ago
@Orthrus You wrote "The only time you'll face is a knife is if you're being mugged or you just had a good drawn out argument with someone and pissed them off enough to draw a knife." What you have said here has pissed me off enough to want to trace your location and stab you with a knife. Now please give me what I want and delete these uninformed comments.
HughSlaman 10 months ago
@BurtonRichardson
Continuing STILL further:
Real knife attacks look like this: they won't stab you. They'll slap you in the face with their empty hand. If you fail to block, your vison's screwed, and you're stabbed. If you DO block, your vision is still screwed, and they stab.
The knife won't be extended out for you to grab it, and when they thrust they won't leave their hand outstretched, they'll withdraw it out of your reach and then stab you again.
There's literally no way to defend it.
Orthrus 1 year ago
@Orthrus Nobody ever gets attacked at random by a knife-wielding attacker? Interesting world you live in. The reason the "attacker" in the video did not go to my back is because he knows that it is actually easier for me to get the disarm when he moves behind me. I just keep my chin tucked, and it is my two hands against his one. He didn't want to give the disarm, so he opted to stay at the side. Try this for yourself. There are many theories- just try sparring hard and you will see.
BurtonRichardson 1 year ago
@BurtonRichardson
Indeed it's an interesting world I'm in. I'm more curious about what kind of insanely dangerous city you must live in to worry about people stabbing you for no reason at all after they jump out of a bush with a knife.
Or has that ever actually happened to you? Both times when I had a knife pulled on me was the result of me being stupid enough to argue with the guy and piss him off enough to threaten with it. How'd I survive? By putting up my hands and walking away from him.
Orthrus 1 year ago
@Orthrus We all live in the very same insanely dangerous world where an unlikely group of nineteen young men armed with boxcutters rammed planes into buildings. If that can happen, then why is an attack by a knife weilder so hard to believe? 9/11 happened because there were enough people, like you, saying "Why would we worry about that? Just don't piss off the hijackers and gve them what they want etc. etc."
HughSlaman 10 months ago
@BurtonRichardson
Look, I don't mean to sound aggressive and accusing here, but you're really describing 29 ninjas with MAC-10s. It's a delusion, as is the idea that people actually attack you like demonstrated here and every other martial arts video out there, and that it's actually possible to grab onto and grapple with them like that.
Orthrus 1 year ago
@Orthrus First, I teach a lot of military personnel. One of the soldiers survived a surprise knife attack, and I had a student grapple a knife away from a burglar in Los Angeles. Second, my students get to this disarm in full sparring all the time. I suggest that you actually try these things out before you criticize.
BurtonRichardson 11 months ago
@Orthrus You wrote: "The knife won't be extended out for you to grab it, and when they thrust they won't leave their hand outstretched, they'll withdraw it out of your reach and then stab you again." And you say this based on your vast experience of being stabbed with a knife? Don't think that just because you can't do something, others share your limitations. People who train can do things that you can't
HughSlaman 10 months ago
The problem with training for a situation like this is not every one goes full weight force into a stab, the second someone tries a different tactict youre pretty much screwed.
Linkfanoftheyear 1 year ago
@Linkfanoftheyear Thank you for your comment. It is true that the fighter who fakes and changes angles is even more difficult to subdue, but these tactics are factored in. In this video, I thought he was coming with an angle 1, but adjusted to the lower slash. Through lots of sparring you can make the adjustment. It's not easy, but training gives you a much better chance.
BurtonRichardson 1 year ago
Wow nice spar
bobolandi 1 year ago
Knife attacks are nasty and bloody! good video! A lot of martial artists who have never dealt with a real knife attack are in for a rude awakening.
Sharkman3472 1 year ago
@Sharkman3472 Yes!
BurtonRichardson 1 year ago
Very cool; I have trained with rubber/toy knives dipped in paint. In the heat of the moment, you really may not be aware of whether you have actually been stabbed by one of these toys and think you did a great job defending yourself, but the paint tells the tale. It amazes me how so many people doing/watching self-defense courses are confident they can disarm a knife attacker when they have never actually ever done so against a fully resisting attacker in their lives.
nHautamaki 1 year ago
@nHautamaki "It amazes me how so many people doing/watching self-defense courses are confident they can disarm a knife attacker when they have never actually ever done so against a fully resisting attacker in their lives." So true. That is false confidence. A few live training sessions will expose the holes- better that then to be full of holes in a real situation!
BurtonRichardson 1 year ago
Simply the best and most convincing way to teach that I have seen in over 20 yrs doing this stuff!!! Thank you for this vid!
MrWer1138 1 year ago
@MrWer1138 Thank you. Just working on reality.
BurtonRichardson 1 year ago
Finally reality! This is one of the most realistic, most effective knife defense technique. If someone don't agree with me, that someone probably has never been attacked by a real knife in a real fight. Good Job.
dtoscano74 1 year ago
@dtoscano74 Thank you for your comment. Realistic testing with 100% resistance leads to realistic techniques. Pretty simple, but most people will not spar at this intensity to find out what really works.
BurtonRichardson 1 year ago
where can I get a knife like dat?
mishok007 1 year ago
This is awesome.
It is especially interesting to note that in ALL the reality "unarmed vs knife" methods (STAB, Redzone, your etc) a big part of it involves "forward pressure" and "having base" - the difficult-to-describe concepts that you can only get from live grappling practice.
In contrast, this is non existent in traditional Kali, Krav Maga, Traditional JJ... all the arts that don't do "full contact disarming".
Not that there is only ONE way of doing things, but just an observation.
mild7p 1 year ago
@mild7p Correct. If you spar it you find quickly that you MUST have forward pressure, as the "attacker' is not going to be stationary.
BurtonRichardson 1 year ago
@BurtonRichardson
It's amazing how 'forward pressure' makes it so much easier to control/disarm... and scary to think how this concept is lost on just about everyone who does'nt do full resistance disarming.
Keep up the good work, you guys are geniuses!
mild7p 1 year ago
very nice, we learn some of this in jiujitsu, Im very fortunate we have a rotational weapon disarments and standup fighting class too....It is essential to learn those two in martial arts...
OffspringFTW65 1 year ago
@OffspringFTW65 Great- just make sure that your partner is resisting so you know how to deal with a live attacker.
BurtonRichardson 1 year ago
where can i get one?
NicaKrnKid 1 year ago
@NicaKrnKid Google shocknife for their website. Some people say that they are expensive, but I believe that they are an essential tool.
BurtonRichardson 1 year ago
Someone pulls a knife you pull off your belt and whip that fool to death! HA! A metal belt buckle on a 34 inch piece of leather will outreach a knife anyday! Thats how you handle it on the streets.
killersushi99 1 year ago
@killersushi99 A good belt swung hard has merit, but that is assuming that you have the time and distance to undo your buckle and pull the belt off. If someone shows up in front of you with knife, you must be able to handle it empty hands.
BurtonRichardson 1 year ago
Great knife defense!!!!!!! I want a shock knife!
j054uaj054ua 1 year ago
@j054uaj054ua They are a great tool for testing your approach.
BurtonRichardson 1 year ago
the best way is run away from the knife guy
brasucasoul 1 year ago
@brasucasoul Yes, but what if you must protect a loved one? Then you must face the knife.
BurtonRichardson 1 year ago 8
@BurtonRichardson you are right.
brasucasoul 1 year ago
@BurtonRichardson: We've done the same un-choreograph/realistic attack (specially attacker knows how to use a knife) and found out that the best way to disarm an opponent is to get hold of his single arm away from the other arm to avoid knife switching then draw it to the ground so he could not swing it while you're disarming it. Cuts and punches won't be avoided ofcourse but would you notice it if your adrenalin is too high ^_^
I'd say this is one good way to test whatever we've learned.
dgtalcue 1 year ago
@dgtalcue Thank you. It is about the best test we have while retaining safety.
BurtonRichardson 1 year ago
@brasucasoul: Situation says defend and eliminate the threat... and I think he defended well ^_^
dgtalcue 1 year ago
@brasucasoul
And what if he/she is a good knife thrower?
mishok007 1 year ago
if this was areall fight u'll be daed already
frefra200 1 year ago
@frefra200 Why?
BurtonRichardson 1 year ago
sounds like a machine gun in slow motion
jimmy202500 1 year ago
Great video. Just out of curiosity, does the shock knife damage the mats?
gcbarone 1 year ago
@gcbarone Great question. During the footage shot for this video, the knife was arcing while on the mat and I didn't see any damage. Other students have gotten to the same position without damaging the mats. So far so good!
BurtonRichardson 1 year ago
you know i think this is an awesome product, but I think this is going to be the torture device of many an organization in the future lol.
TheHellBound666 1 year ago
great job. really really really nicely done.
RhadeConstantine 1 year ago
@RhadeConstantine Thank you- it has taken 20 years of learning and high intensity experimentation to get to this point. My sincere gratitude to all my instructors and sparring partners.
BurtonRichardson 1 year ago
Pretty realistic, some of the more realistic training Ive seen. Attacker doesnt seem too comitted tho.
skunkapotamus 1 year ago
@skunkapotamus He was pretty committed! Once I got in, he know that there was a danger of having the knife turned back on him, which is why he always kept an exit route ready.
BurtonRichardson 1 year ago
yea you got cut for a second there, it means the grip strength is gone and probably massive bleeding especially if the slit is on the wrist that would mean swimming in blood and death in a few minutes.
6SpAr6TAN69 1 year ago
@6SpAr6TAN69 Not on the wrist, was on the inside of my little finger. But regardless, the idea is to train realistically. Otherwise, you have no chance at all.
BurtonRichardson 1 year ago
the man got cut, and most likely in shock after 20 30 sec. then he is a gonner
CorporalNim 1 year ago
@CorporalNim A cut on the hand usually does not induce shock. A deep cut, especially to blood vessels or a thrust into organs, causes shock. A friend of mine took a knife away from an assailant, and was cut in the hand during the process. No shock, just bleeding. But the point is, this is an effective method to handle an aggressive knife attacker.
BurtonRichardson 1 year ago
@CorporalNim
When you defend against a knife against a competent attacker expect to AT LEAST get cut. Often times getting cut does not mean that shock shock will instantly set in.
chodykumbra 1 year ago
@chodykumbra Exactly.
BurtonRichardson 1 year ago
haha... he whimpers as he runs away when Burton steals the knife. hahaha.
BullionBandit 1 year ago
This training was great ! its practical...and it really do happen in real knife fights..wherein you have to sacrifice being cut to save your life...This was awesome...Mr Richardson was a great instructor / writer / director / fight choreographer
godawar 1 year ago
@godawar Thank you for the kind words.
BurtonRichardson 1 year ago
I've been taught never to try and control a knife hand. As there are very few situations in which the knife won't be able to cut you when being controlled with empty hand. Without meaning to sound rude - why control it, with the risk of getting your arm sliced, when you can make them drop the knife?
pikassproductions 1 year ago
@pikassproductions Thanks for the question. How in the world do you get them to drop the knife without controlling it first? When someone rushes you, the chance of landing a knockout blow (punch, kick to the groin, eye strike, etc.) is very, very low. If you spar hard you will see that the best solution is to control the knife arm. Teachers who don't spar will rely on theory that is not sound. I hope this helps you.
BurtonRichardson 1 year ago
@BurtonRichardson I'm not saying that your methods don't work, just to me it looks risky that's all, I could be wrong. However I have been taught to either hit nerves or use what's called a gun ting (I think that's how it's spelt) which is like a scissor action either side of the arm to make them drop the knife.
pikassproductions 1 year ago
@pikassproductions Notice that you watched a video of full sparring where the technique works, but think that a technique that someone showed you, without testing it in sparring, is better. This is the common error in martial arts- to believe without testing. I suggest that you put on equipment and have someone come after you all out and see what actually happens, instead of just theorizing. You will become a much better martial artist, because you will have fighting experience.
BurtonRichardson 1 year ago