OUTSTANDING video! I'll pass this on, by leaving the TITLE of this video, in the COMMENTS section of any videos I see that try to DISCREDIT Gods WORD, in this way! - Could I have made that sentence more awkward? ;( Time, and time again, Gods WORD is valid, and TRUE! And the bible offers the BEST EXPLANATION for the Ancient pagan gods, and aliens! They did NOT mix their DNA with APES, but with human women. The TRUTH is given in The Book of Enoch, Genesis, Exodus, Jude, Daniel, Revelatio
The sun and the moon. .... OK ..... May be you're right. What about a history of UFO's in art starting 5000 years ago on all continents? Not mentioning writen text. I think you should call it : " trying to debunk .... ", 'cause so faar you didn't debunkt nothing!
Let them say what they want. This does not explain why the Sumerians, Hopi's, Greek's and many other cultures all say the same thing. The God's came out of the heavens, and made us to theire image. And why are there city's found covert with radio active ashes. Or why they depict, UFO's and rockts. Why don't you try to debunk that. Or debunk the worldwide story's about giants and stargate's. Because you can't. Or the 40.000 years old goldmines. our history is older then they say.
ANGELS & ALIENS! just to add insult to injury, anything not of this planet is extraterrestrial! lol that includes all gods of all religions & angels lol even those depicted in paintings. if this dude was a bit smart he wouldve known that. so every painting depicting angels in the sky flying around in clouds is depicting beings not of this earth hence EXTRATERRESTRIALS. im still waiting for the dude who made that vid to debunk the madonna & child! lol write me when he does cuz he didnt here lol.
because they were beings that look like we do lmmfgdao! fkn moron! again i dont expect the idiot who thought he was debunking these paintings to know this. the ppl of old didnt have terms like ufo or flying saucers but ufos in teh bible are everywhere. elijahs abduction 2 kings 2:11&12.. ezekiels wheel ezekiel 1:4-28 etc. aliens/angels coincide with the bible & then would coincide with painting that depict biblical things. nice try but im still laughing my ass off over here =)
this video would be great for ppl who are blind (Literally) lmfao. but nobody on youtube is blind! even the vatican now is saying the belief in aliens doesnt contradict a belief in god. to the person who thinks all aliens are lil grey men with big heads & eyes are complete idiots lmfao. those greys were created by the anunnaki & were called igigis. the anunnaki who created us look like we do so when you see paintings of what appear to be beings that look like we do on clouds in the sky its...
even in genesis 6 the sons of god (angels) were described as mating with the women of the earth which is something a ghostly being cannot do. i dont expect this moron to know this when he doesnt even know the bible. the word spirit in hebrew is ruah which translates to breath or wind of god & n ot a ghost lol. again this is something he wouldnt know cuz his head is up his ass & cant see straight. i appreciate him describing whats in the paintings but we all see what is in them.
i would love to know how explaining what is depicted in these paintings is debunking them lol? i have yet to hear this dude debunk these paintings. all hes doing is explaining whats in them. if this idiot only knew that angels are aliens lol. as a matter of fact teh word angel in greek is angelos which simply means messenger. in the book of daniel 4:13 & 4:23 they are called watchers which was later changed to messenger. sumer or shumer tranlates to "land of the watchers" lmfao
People that agree with this video, he says that the shepherds say the angels. what were the angels? if they are not from this world they are considered extra terrestrials. whether they really looked like they are depicted in the art or not is a question no one can truly answer, but that doesnt mean it cant be astronauts from another world. if you dont believe in ancient astronaut theory more power to you, but there is a reason its called the Ancient Astronaut THEORY! its nothing but a theory
You really got a stick up your ass dont you?I wish we could carry on this conversation in person punk,anytime motherfucker Ill stuff that shit down your throat...Fucking asshole...
don't they argue that this art historian is doing a very good job explaining the images but the original event being described is the account of the visitation not the paintings made hundreds of years later. the artists are using the icons of their times to desribe something that same artist never claimed to have witnessed.
And have you noticed the narrator only points out the sun and moon objects and not the disc shaped objects that are clearly in plain view? Try finding a better video pal lol!
Yes this makes so much sense. Because why would anyone not believe the story of a talking snake, a woman made out of a rib, and two arms coming down from the sky handing a man the 10 commandments? *Insert sarcasm here*
Stop swallowing what tv tells you, go research the NWO, learn how all this alien crap is pure propaganda for what's to come, and continue to feed your head my friends.
You stupid kids honestly think I made this video? Thats sad. Let me guess "well why would you post if you don't believe it" or "Then don't post someone elses video stupid"? I re posted a few of nowheretorun1984 because I like the effort he puts in to his informational videos. That does not mean I agree or anyone else should agree with everything he says or thinks, you nut jobs out of all people should understand this. So please Shh your scum mouth and breath through your nose.
Your video description I quit amusing though! It's very interesting that you say these things are false but you list the video under "Science & Technology". I'd elaborate further on your description but I'm sure it's pointless and you'll regurgitate the same B.S. so eff it...
Maybe you can explain to me why these artists would depict everything in their paintings as they are EXCEPT the Sun and Moon.... Use the brain "God" gave you.
This argument is, "People wrote down stories of what seem to be extraterrestrial encounters, and all these painter's included the details of these encounters, therefore it's fake".
lol ... People, I say .. Could be... or maybe not. I am a skeptic at heart about everything. I do not choose to go with the flow because a true skeptic cannot always find a reason or a truth in something. I say this could be UFOs recreated or not. I also say that I have seen some old photos of actual vehicles that look to represent a being inside. I am not one to necessarily say that Ancient Alien or Astronaut theories are right, I am merely asking could they be?
I'm sorry but your "proof" seems to point to the fact that god and christ etc came down from the sky on a shiny object... an all powerful being doesn't need a vehicle he could just appear... you aren't disproving anything, you just lack research on this subject and have a preconceived notion. I wish I had that much confidence that I had ANY of this figured out... but ancient astronaut theory seems to have overwhelming physical evidence... paintings or not...
Are you that blindly devoted to a myth (Christianity) that you can't see what's right in front of your face? How is it that the Mayans could have artifacts modeling an actual flying craft? This craft was produced (to scale) by today's engineers...AND IT FLEW PERFECTLY! Further, you ACTUALLY believe the absolutely moronic and absurd fables within Christianity such as Jonah living inside a whale? Oh...and even funnier is the idea of Noah holding two of every animal on Earth within a boat! Funny!
Are you that blindly devoted to a myth (Christianity) that you can't see what's right in front of your face? How is it that the Mayans could have artifacts modeling an actual flying craft? This craft was produced (to scale) by today's engineers...AND IT FLEW PERFECTLY! Further, you ACTUALLY believe the absolutely moronic and absurd fables within Christianity such as Jonah living inside a whale? Oh...and even funnier is the idea of Noah holding two of every animal on Earth within a boat! Funny!
@tracywalstad Absolutely right.. not only did it fly perfectly aerodynamically, it also had the wings attached on the side (insects have wings on the back that spread outward) and a tail... that flies just don't have, at least here :)
Flew perfectly with clear modifications absent in the original. They are not the same. Look at it again. Also there is another example of a glider of egyptian origin which is clearly a model bird. Strangely enough the concept that many objects in nature fly just fine and could have been observed for hundreds of hours isn't even presented. That's actually not strange though as every argument for ancient aliens is non-sensical crap that ignores inconvenient data.
@tracywalstad The arc of Noah could be a dna data base. This would be more logic. Remember that religion is based on fact. They only tried to explain it in theire words.
Using depictions of angels to debunk depictions of ufo's does nothing for the credibility of your thesis. It's also disingenuous to use 'christian' religious art only, to bolster your argument. There are numerous other examples of similar objects in non-european, non-christian art.
uhm, this guy doesn't have a point. If a 2 season History channel series (Ancient Aliens) can convince me (who has a masters degree, so I'm not a complete woowoo) that there is something to the astronaut theory, I guess there has to be some truth in it. At least it provides me with a rational story of 'history', something history itself doesn't really provide at this point. I mean, do you really think the guys at National Geographic (History/Discovery channel) are complete idiots?
Try to debunk the strange un worldly "people" they describe, the astronauts in space suits, aerodynamics, tons of space crafts in several different paintings. They clearly saw something that was beyond them.
Just look up debunking Mayan calendar and you will find dozens of sites including one from NASA and from National Geographic. Of course they are just part of the plot to keep us all ignorant of our doom. Any of you who still believe please send me all your stuff as you won't be needing it.
Skeptics are just people who haven't seen their first UFO YET. When you do see one, there's no mistaking what it is. You will know for sure exactly what it is when you see it as clear as you see your computer screen right now, hovering silently a few hundred feet from you for a short while, then silently and instantly ripping through a wormhole to the far reaches of the universe right before your very eyes. So please explain to me how the Mayans knew about every major event in Earth history.
Actually skeptics are people who realise what the U in UFO stands for and then reserve judgment until the facts are in instead of jumping to conclusions.
Moreover, eye-witness testimonies are the worst pieces of evidence you could possibly have. The hundreds of wrongful convictions that were later overturned with introduction of DNA evidence as well as magic tricks and optical illusions are just a few examples of how people's eyes cannot always be trusted.
@47571660 Well, by UFO I mean a space craft used by highly advanced beings from across the universe and there's no mistaking what those are when you see one for yourself. It simply could not be anything else when you clearly see them do the things they do. I'm familiar with every military aircraft ever used by the U.S. and Russia and most of the ones used by most other countries and none of them can do any of the things I've seen these things do. I've also seen swamp gas and weather balloons.
@wavydavey The Mayan calendar starts when the Big Bang happened about 15 billion years ago and something big has happened on every big phase change date on the calendar since then. The mass extinctions of the Triassic and Cretaceous eras, the dawn of mankind and civilization, and the discovery of nuclear energy are all on phase change dates of the Mayan calendar. Even the date of the Middle East uprisings is on the calendar. The Mayans couldn't have come up with this on their own either.
We only have ENTIRE MOUNTAINTOPS that have been flattened.. but nahh.. its totally impossible that aliens might have visited us thousands of years ago..
how about the egyptian pictures of helicopters,jets,submarines,light bulbs,aliens,giants,spaceships,spacemen in spacesuits,or are you soley saying no ufo's in these paintings only?Or that there is none at all anywhere?
There are no egyptian pictures of any of those things roro, that wouldn't make any sense as they did not have that technology. You are regurgitating the nonsensical opinions of morons.
@person661982 I dont think so,I look at the stuff that has been found inside of chunks of coal,here in Spiro,Okla. and man I tell you,I just cant explain,how did this get in there?And it carbon dates back millions of years,I guess when your standing right here looking at this (oopsart)or out of place artifacts,for your own two eyes to see,you stop being so skeptical,(because I was an extreme skeptic)before the day I witnessed something that only has one explaination,someone was here before us..
How did what get in there roro? What out of place artifacts? You've provided nothing to corroborate what you speak of. A quick google search of "Spiro, OK coal" lets me know nothing other than there are coal mines there. Of course I don't have to see whatever you're talking about to know that your remark about there being only one explanation is full of shit, I'm merely curious what is so convincing to you that is so unremarkable to everyone else it wasn't even a news story.
@person661982 Dude,I was there,and I know what I saw,Im not trying to convince anyone,especially you,no offense but you are devoutly closedminded.I will never say never,about anything,Including the exsitance of a higher power,but to look at these,and other artifacts,and sweep them under the rug,is what so called historians have been doing for hundreds of years,because it doesnt fit into there little scheme of things,well,guess what?Its a strange world we live in,and neither you nor me knows answ
@roro879 What are you talking about Roro? You are not sharing anything, but rather just vaguely speaking about some incident in a coal mine. No one has any goddamn idea what you are talking about. Were it anything special others would know about it. To call me devoutly close minded, seems ridiculous except to you it apparently means anyone who doesn't blindly believe based on evidence of which anyone should be very skeptical.
@justtryharder I dont know dude, trying to talk sense to this guy is like kicking a bag full of hammers,Im starting to wish I had never clicked on it,its just ridiculous that he thinks he knows everything!The smartest minds in the world cant explain how a 12000 yr old bell was found in a chunk of coal,among zillions of other out of place artifacts,It just kills me to try to talk to someone who refuses to even think of any other way than his
@roro879 I was trying to point out that the egyptian pictures of helicopters, etc aren't what they appear to be at all. If you are referring to person661982, then I would take a similar view of this ancient astronaut woo woo. Thats not to say its impossible, it just appears unlikely at this point. Just because there isn't an answer to something is no reason to jump to wild conclusions.
@roro879 dont you think there's a more reasonable explanation? Spiderman comics exist, about a hero that lives in a real place "new york"., does that make spiderman real?
@roro879 That's not an open mind. An open mind is one that looks at all possibilty and chooses the most rational explanation. It's like the old saying "keep an open mind, but not too open that your brain falls out"
@roro879 okay, you're very welcome for me trying to give you some sense, prick. Believe whatever you like, just don't expect not to be called a friggen moron
if he spend 10 mins trying to debunk a few paintings, how long do you think it would take him to "debunk" every single monolithic structure ever created, underwater cities, 1500 year old object that is more complicated and precise than a modern day swiss watch, and 2000 Tonne, single cut blocks. not to mention Detailed maps of the land mass underneath the ice in Antarctica...... 4000 years ago. These are only a handful of mysteries completley unexplained in your theory, Please have more info.
This doesn't debunk anything. They say it's the announcement to the sheppards.... OK? wtf does that mean... it means a spae ship came down and announced it! haha THanks for not debunking this theory
i'm with you about the sun and the moon one. that seems likely, but the "madonna" nativity painting is clearly not an angel or any humanoid form. that one can't be as easliy explained. sorry dude.
Good job with the sun and the moon, but the rest of your comments are based on the assumption that God and Angels exist. I would be more inclined to believe in Ancient Astronaut Theory, there's clear videos of UFOs. The God and Angels in the clouds are thought by AAT to be ETs overseeing or engaging the characters in the events depicted. So again, kudos for the Sun and the Moon, but the rest is still open to debate. Keep going though, just be careful not to be blinded by faith.
@backporchorganic besides that,thats one funky looking sun and moon,when evrything else in the painting appears to be normal,why would they make the sun and moon abstract,and nothing else?
This is all based on opinion. Scholars telling us what they thought earlier sources were interpreting the symbols as. It has absolutely no objective value other than to reinforce pre-existing belief systems.
@kingofpotassium Archeological lingusts cannot get by with basing interpretation by opinion. It can take up to 50 years of study by other archeological linguists and archeologists and anthropologists before they can agree on a consensus. This is not a trivial process.
I don't think any of this did much to prove or disprove the ancient astronaut theory. It was insignificant evidence of anything even if it was what these theorists thought it was in the first place.
I think it's funny that you are try to debunk the art theories when the greatest amount of their proof comes from the written stories, ancient ruins, large structures, tons of research and in some cases helpful skepticism in the main view of how we evolved and how mega structures were built with primitive tools. I dont say that I agree totally but simply trying to debunk someones life work based on a few paintings wont work. Do more research into the theory and take a hard look at the universe.
@mikekasher11 Hold your horses. This is about the paintings and only the paintings. I already did my research on the research on the structures of buildings and their carvings and learned what they mean by actual scholars on the subject and through it all, there were no visitors and by the way, the people's tools who built the pyramids mimic our modern tools. There were engineers back in time because through evolution, we have a cerebral cortex to interpret such things.
I think you just wish to see it a certain way. You put to much faith into people telling you what you want to hear. Over the years many scientist have changed their views on what the symbols mean, and to claim that in ancient times they had tools almost equivalent to our modern day tools is ridiculous. Your cerebral cortex isn't capable of creating mathematics 1,000s of years ahead of the rest of the world. Plus lets not forget all the ancient stories that people like you forget.
@mikekasher11 Chinese scrolls pre-date the Bible by 3,000 years and are far more accurate. While people of the desert were throwing stones at each other, the Chinese invented the Sun Dial. I'm educated and simply don't go by what seems to fit. I educate myself by reading contradictory reports and papers that disagree with my point of view and even if I don't like the answer, I read it.
Interesting you only point to 3,00 years before the bible. If you are talking about the Christian Bible then you are off by a few thousand years. The Christian bible is based on the Jewish Bible. Egypt was around 3,000 years before the Bible was written and long before the Jewish and Islamic Bibles where written. People in the desert where not just throwing stones around they were developing a society but at a very slow rate that grew by leaps and bounds in a short period of time.
You may say your educated and read things that you don't agree with, but still read them even though you go into the paper biased. Going by what seems to fit and going by and educated guess are not the same thing. You are first assuming that archeology is a exact science. While dating an object might be, determining what the object is or what it did or means is totally different. If the Chinese are as far back as you have researched then you are not going back far enough.
You also need to look into all the structures all over the world that sprung up around the same time. It has already been proven that slaves did not build the pyramids it's likely a small group built them all. So either this group was highly advanced and secretive or it took many more years to build them than the timeline allows. It is possible we built them but unlikely we didn't have help. Why do you think its impossible to have had help? The idea doesn't put down on humans
@mikekasher11 I did study ancient civilization and their masonry and their engineering. Man is capable of building what they visualize and its not because of some outside alien source.
@truvelocity I call bullshit on that statement. I have seen college professors try and recreate a structure, mostly on a small scale, but they usually try and do something that they could actually pull off. Look at the sculptures who tried to recreate the Olmec heads with the same tools believed to be used, they couldn't do it. They tried to lift a 100 ton block with ropes and pulleys and people, guess what they couldn't do it, the ropes kept breaking and the people where not strong enough.
A very good piece of research. Of course 'research' is alien [no pun] to most of the UFO brigade. Why research when you can simply reprint and spread the UFO gospel.
There is serious research going on with regard to the unexplained but it is seriously hampered and its credibility strained by those that would rather simply perpetuate tired myths.
I'm not saying those aren't representations of the sun, the moon, and angels, but you haven't made an argument for it, just show that, whatever they are, they show up everywhere in pagan and/or Christian art.
You're starting and ending with the assumption that these aren't UFOs, but objects of your faith. That's circular logic -- completely unreliable -- and just as bad as those who start and end with the assumption that these are UFOs.
Its not just religious paintings that have these mysterious representations on them, indeed they exist the world over from oil to cave paintings, altho some might be judged as religious representations i do beleive that they also pepresent what we call ufo's
You got some points to your credit here, but just because one $ bill is false, does not mean all $ lbills are false. Only time will tell my friends, which one will get here first Jesus boy or Aliens...lol do your own research people ....you might be surprised with what you find out, oh and by the way when was the last time anyone saw jesus? and when was the last time some one credible saw a real UFO or its ocupants. The truth is that this beings have been fucking with us for a long time.
God, people are idiots. You just can't pound shit into peoples heads nowadays, its rather scary that everyone will jump on the bandwagon with this crap.
Those two objects above the crucified Jesus Christ definitely looked like the sun and the moon in the other paintings. It was the exact same thing, and you are all telling him to do more research. So you're trying to pawn off the idea that aliens swooped into the landscape behind the crucified Jesus to get a better view of the show? Right.
We are not the only intelligent life in the universe. To believe that we are is really narrow-minded and quite arrogant. You can't stop life, all it needs are the right conditions. There are millions of galaxies, each with millions of stars.
Now, could that intelligent life get here. Probably, if it was advanced enough. Someone 5000 years ago could not imagine how advanced our lives are now.
Imagine what we could do in another 5000 years, or more.
@GreenEggsAndHamster I love how you call people narrow-minded. Why shouldn't it be possible we are the only intelligent life forms in the universe? Scientists have scanned the skies and rarely find stars with all the fundamental building blocks of life. Even when they all the circumstances have to be exactly right to sustain the type of life we are talking about. And we have yet to find proof otherwise.
Its taken us about 200,000 years to hit the Industrial revolution and get where we are now.
@rebelrocker14 I was commenting on the odds. Sorry, but they are not good. Lack of proof is not proof. Sure it is possible we are alone, but you must admit that we still can't see, or even understand, much of the Universe. Therefore, the greatest possibility is that we are not alone. Does that mean aliens came down to see Jesus? Of course not. These representations could mean anything.
I feel you have made an argument for 1 perspective that is just as legitimate as what you are apposing however, only the Artist who did the work ultimately knows of the true msg & intent of their work, even if commissioned by others to have it done
1) not at all sun & moon. Doesn't even look like the ones on the other paintings. Defnitely a representation of evil forces in the sky.
2) again, not at all sun & moon. Clearly these are vessels. The artist even drew control handles in them! Unless you think he thought man could control the moon & sun.
3) Angels = Aliens
4) "God" looking at Jezus = Alien creators are looking at their creation.
OUTSTANDING video! I'll pass this on, by leaving the TITLE of this video, in the COMMENTS section of any videos I see that try to DISCREDIT Gods WORD, in this way! - Could I have made that sentence more awkward? ;( Time, and time again, Gods WORD is valid, and TRUE! And the bible offers the BEST EXPLANATION for the Ancient pagan gods, and aliens! They did NOT mix their DNA with APES, but with human women. The TRUTH is given in The Book of Enoch, Genesis, Exodus, Jude, Daniel, Revelatio
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The sun and the moon. .... OK ..... May be you're right. What about a history of UFO's in art starting 5000 years ago on all continents? Not mentioning writen text. I think you should call it : " trying to debunk .... ", 'cause so faar you didn't debunkt nothing!
drahthaar4 1 week ago
Let them say what they want. This does not explain why the Sumerians, Hopi's, Greek's and many other cultures all say the same thing. The God's came out of the heavens, and made us to theire image. And why are there city's found covert with radio active ashes. Or why they depict, UFO's and rockts. Why don't you try to debunk that. Or debunk the worldwide story's about giants and stargate's. Because you can't. Or the 40.000 years old goldmines. our history is older then they say.
AncientAstronautNL 1 month ago
ANGELS & ALIENS! just to add insult to injury, anything not of this planet is extraterrestrial! lol that includes all gods of all religions & angels lol even those depicted in paintings. if this dude was a bit smart he wouldve known that. so every painting depicting angels in the sky flying around in clouds is depicting beings not of this earth hence EXTRATERRESTRIALS. im still waiting for the dude who made that vid to debunk the madonna & child! lol write me when he does cuz he didnt here lol.
EmquRakbu 4 months ago
because they were beings that look like we do lmmfgdao! fkn moron! again i dont expect the idiot who thought he was debunking these paintings to know this. the ppl of old didnt have terms like ufo or flying saucers but ufos in teh bible are everywhere. elijahs abduction 2 kings 2:11&12.. ezekiels wheel ezekiel 1:4-28 etc. aliens/angels coincide with the bible & then would coincide with painting that depict biblical things. nice try but im still laughing my ass off over here =)
EmquRakbu 4 months ago
this video would be great for ppl who are blind (Literally) lmfao. but nobody on youtube is blind! even the vatican now is saying the belief in aliens doesnt contradict a belief in god. to the person who thinks all aliens are lil grey men with big heads & eyes are complete idiots lmfao. those greys were created by the anunnaki & were called igigis. the anunnaki who created us look like we do so when you see paintings of what appear to be beings that look like we do on clouds in the sky its...
EmquRakbu 4 months ago
even in genesis 6 the sons of god (angels) were described as mating with the women of the earth which is something a ghostly being cannot do. i dont expect this moron to know this when he doesnt even know the bible. the word spirit in hebrew is ruah which translates to breath or wind of god & n ot a ghost lol. again this is something he wouldnt know cuz his head is up his ass & cant see straight. i appreciate him describing whats in the paintings but we all see what is in them.
EmquRakbu 4 months ago
i would love to know how explaining what is depicted in these paintings is debunking them lol? i have yet to hear this dude debunk these paintings. all hes doing is explaining whats in them. if this idiot only knew that angels are aliens lol. as a matter of fact teh word angel in greek is angelos which simply means messenger. in the book of daniel 4:13 & 4:23 they are called watchers which was later changed to messenger. sumer or shumer tranlates to "land of the watchers" lmfao
EmquRakbu 4 months ago
People that agree with this video, he says that the shepherds say the angels. what were the angels? if they are not from this world they are considered extra terrestrials. whether they really looked like they are depicted in the art or not is a question no one can truly answer, but that doesnt mean it cant be astronauts from another world. if you dont believe in ancient astronaut theory more power to you, but there is a reason its called the Ancient Astronaut THEORY! its nothing but a theory
KsQrd1 5 months ago
You really got a stick up your ass dont you?I wish we could carry on this conversation in person punk,anytime motherfucker Ill stuff that shit down your throat...Fucking asshole...
roro879 5 months ago
don't they argue that this art historian is doing a very good job explaining the images but the original event being described is the account of the visitation not the paintings made hundreds of years later. the artists are using the icons of their times to desribe something that same artist never claimed to have witnessed.
Lordofwar480 5 months ago
angels dont exist man, what are you saying that it is then?
TheBronzehero 5 months ago
And have you noticed the narrator only points out the sun and moon objects and not the disc shaped objects that are clearly in plain view? Try finding a better video pal lol!
SlaytanicSteven 5 months ago
Yes this makes so much sense. Because why would anyone not believe the story of a talking snake, a woman made out of a rib, and two arms coming down from the sky handing a man the 10 commandments? *Insert sarcasm here*
SlaytanicSteven 5 months ago
Stop swallowing what tv tells you, go research the NWO, learn how all this alien crap is pure propaganda for what's to come, and continue to feed your head my friends.
Tweeterfist 6 months ago
You stupid kids honestly think I made this video? Thats sad. Let me guess "well why would you post if you don't believe it" or "Then don't post someone elses video stupid"? I re posted a few of nowheretorun1984 because I like the effort he puts in to his informational videos. That does not mean I agree or anyone else should agree with everything he says or thinks, you nut jobs out of all people should understand this. So please Shh your scum mouth and breath through your nose.
archangelimperius 6 months ago
Your video description I quit amusing though! It's very interesting that you say these things are false but you list the video under "Science & Technology". I'd elaborate further on your description but I'm sure it's pointless and you'll regurgitate the same B.S. so eff it...
BoWeava 6 months ago
Watch the entire first season of Ancient Aliens and let's see how much you can debunk when it comes to physical evidence. Good luck!
BoWeava 6 months ago
Maybe you can explain to me why these artists would depict everything in their paintings as they are EXCEPT the Sun and Moon.... Use the brain "God" gave you.
BoWeava 6 months ago
This argument is, "People wrote down stories of what seem to be extraterrestrial encounters, and all these painter's included the details of these encounters, therefore it's fake".
creativechatname 6 months ago
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creativechatname 6 months ago
this doesnt explain anything
patman0250 6 months ago
I tend to take all of these artifacts,and beleive that there is something to it
roro879 7 months ago
God damn ancient astronaut theorist are fucking stupid
fcdog555 7 months ago
lol ... People, I say .. Could be... or maybe not. I am a skeptic at heart about everything. I do not choose to go with the flow because a true skeptic cannot always find a reason or a truth in something. I say this could be UFOs recreated or not. I also say that I have seen some old photos of actual vehicles that look to represent a being inside. I am not one to necessarily say that Ancient Alien or Astronaut theories are right, I am merely asking could they be?
Mikey7231980 7 months ago
I'm sorry but your "proof" seems to point to the fact that god and christ etc came down from the sky on a shiny object... an all powerful being doesn't need a vehicle he could just appear... you aren't disproving anything, you just lack research on this subject and have a preconceived notion. I wish I had that much confidence that I had ANY of this figured out... but ancient astronaut theory seems to have overwhelming physical evidence... paintings or not...
yesblake 8 months ago
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Are you that blindly devoted to a myth (Christianity) that you can't see what's right in front of your face? How is it that the Mayans could have artifacts modeling an actual flying craft? This craft was produced (to scale) by today's engineers...AND IT FLEW PERFECTLY! Further, you ACTUALLY believe the absolutely moronic and absurd fables within Christianity such as Jonah living inside a whale? Oh...and even funnier is the idea of Noah holding two of every animal on Earth within a boat! Funny!
tracywalstad 8 months ago
Are you that blindly devoted to a myth (Christianity) that you can't see what's right in front of your face? How is it that the Mayans could have artifacts modeling an actual flying craft? This craft was produced (to scale) by today's engineers...AND IT FLEW PERFECTLY! Further, you ACTUALLY believe the absolutely moronic and absurd fables within Christianity such as Jonah living inside a whale? Oh...and even funnier is the idea of Noah holding two of every animal on Earth within a boat! Funny!
tracywalstad 8 months ago 5
@tracywalstad Absolutely right.. not only did it fly perfectly aerodynamically, it also had the wings attached on the side (insects have wings on the back that spread outward) and a tail... that flies just don't have, at least here :)
yesblake 8 months ago
@tracywalstad
Flew perfectly with clear modifications absent in the original. They are not the same. Look at it again. Also there is another example of a glider of egyptian origin which is clearly a model bird. Strangely enough the concept that many objects in nature fly just fine and could have been observed for hundreds of hours isn't even presented. That's actually not strange though as every argument for ancient aliens is non-sensical crap that ignores inconvenient data.
person661982 7 months ago
@tracywalstad imagination id say mate
OMGWTFBBQprest 2 months ago
@tracywalstad The arc of Noah could be a dna data base. This would be more logic. Remember that religion is based on fact. They only tried to explain it in theire words.
AncientAstronautNL 1 month ago
Using depictions of angels to debunk depictions of ufo's does nothing for the credibility of your thesis. It's also disingenuous to use 'christian' religious art only, to bolster your argument. There are numerous other examples of similar objects in non-european, non-christian art.
Your username really highlights your agenda.
2efnbad 8 months ago
Its nice to see some one who did ther homework, Great job
DARKKSTAR101 9 months ago
uhm, this guy doesn't have a point. If a 2 season History channel series (Ancient Aliens) can convince me (who has a masters degree, so I'm not a complete woowoo) that there is something to the astronaut theory, I guess there has to be some truth in it. At least it provides me with a rational story of 'history', something history itself doesn't really provide at this point. I mean, do you really think the guys at National Geographic (History/Discovery channel) are complete idiots?
NBVosloo 9 months ago
to hell with you all, im an ancient astronaut theory believer, whether you like or not.
gsharp07 9 months ago
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gsharp07 9 months ago
Try to debunk the strange un worldly "people" they describe, the astronauts in space suits, aerodynamics, tons of space crafts in several different paintings. They clearly saw something that was beyond them.
treasuredroperX 10 months ago
Just look up debunking Mayan calendar and you will find dozens of sites including one from NASA and from National Geographic. Of course they are just part of the plot to keep us all ignorant of our doom. Any of you who still believe please send me all your stuff as you won't be needing it.
wavydavey 10 months ago
The Mayan calendar started August 9th, 3114 BCE not 15 billion years ago.
wavydavey 10 months ago
Good luck trying to convince these people, they will always find one more reason to "Believe"
wavydavey 10 months ago
So the apparition of an angel is more plausible than that of a UFO.... Ok..
bluejester28 11 months ago
Skeptics are just people who haven't seen their first UFO YET. When you do see one, there's no mistaking what it is. You will know for sure exactly what it is when you see it as clear as you see your computer screen right now, hovering silently a few hundred feet from you for a short while, then silently and instantly ripping through a wormhole to the far reaches of the universe right before your very eyes. So please explain to me how the Mayans knew about every major event in Earth history.
Metallishredder19 1 year ago
@Metallishredder19
Actually skeptics are people who realise what the U in UFO stands for and then reserve judgment until the facts are in instead of jumping to conclusions.
Moreover, eye-witness testimonies are the worst pieces of evidence you could possibly have. The hundreds of wrongful convictions that were later overturned with introduction of DNA evidence as well as magic tricks and optical illusions are just a few examples of how people's eyes cannot always be trusted.
47571660 11 months ago
@47571660 Well, by UFO I mean a space craft used by highly advanced beings from across the universe and there's no mistaking what those are when you see one for yourself. It simply could not be anything else when you clearly see them do the things they do. I'm familiar with every military aircraft ever used by the U.S. and Russia and most of the ones used by most other countries and none of them can do any of the things I've seen these things do. I've also seen swamp gas and weather balloons.
Metallishredder19 11 months ago
@Metallishredder19
They Didn't.
wavydavey 10 months ago
@wavydavey The Mayan calendar starts when the Big Bang happened about 15 billion years ago and something big has happened on every big phase change date on the calendar since then. The mass extinctions of the Triassic and Cretaceous eras, the dawn of mankind and civilization, and the discovery of nuclear energy are all on phase change dates of the Mayan calendar. Even the date of the Middle East uprisings is on the calendar. The Mayans couldn't have come up with this on their own either.
Metallishredder19 10 months ago
We only have ENTIRE MOUNTAINTOPS that have been flattened.. but nahh.. its totally impossible that aliens might have visited us thousands of years ago..
Freshbrood 1 year ago
how about the egyptian pictures of helicopters,jets,submarines,light bulbs,aliens,giants,spaceships,spacemen in spacesuits,or are you soley saying no ufo's in these paintings only?Or that there is none at all anywhere?
roro879 1 year ago 10
@roro879
There are no egyptian pictures of any of those things roro, that wouldn't make any sense as they did not have that technology. You are regurgitating the nonsensical opinions of morons.
person661982 7 months ago
@person661982 I dont think so,I look at the stuff that has been found inside of chunks of coal,here in Spiro,Okla. and man I tell you,I just cant explain,how did this get in there?And it carbon dates back millions of years,I guess when your standing right here looking at this (oopsart)or out of place artifacts,for your own two eyes to see,you stop being so skeptical,(because I was an extreme skeptic)before the day I witnessed something that only has one explaination,someone was here before us..
roro879 6 months ago
@roro879
How did what get in there roro? What out of place artifacts? You've provided nothing to corroborate what you speak of. A quick google search of "Spiro, OK coal" lets me know nothing other than there are coal mines there. Of course I don't have to see whatever you're talking about to know that your remark about there being only one explanation is full of shit, I'm merely curious what is so convincing to you that is so unremarkable to everyone else it wasn't even a news story.
person661982 6 months ago
@person661982 Dude,I was there,and I know what I saw,Im not trying to convince anyone,especially you,no offense but you are devoutly closedminded.I will never say never,about anything,Including the exsitance of a higher power,but to look at these,and other artifacts,and sweep them under the rug,is what so called historians have been doing for hundreds of years,because it doesnt fit into there little scheme of things,well,guess what?Its a strange world we live in,and neither you nor me knows answ
roro879 6 months ago
@roro879 What are you talking about Roro? You are not sharing anything, but rather just vaguely speaking about some incident in a coal mine. No one has any goddamn idea what you are talking about. Were it anything special others would know about it. To call me devoutly close minded, seems ridiculous except to you it apparently means anyone who doesn't blindly believe based on evidence of which anyone should be very skeptical.
person661982 6 months ago
@person661982 I gotta hand one thing to you,you sure know how to get people to comment,and how to piss them off
roro879 6 months ago
@roro879 - Not my goal. Had you provided any specific information at all I would have gladly looked at it.
person661982 6 months ago
@roro879 I hope you watched part II.
justtryharder 6 months ago
@justtryharder I dont know dude, trying to talk sense to this guy is like kicking a bag full of hammers,Im starting to wish I had never clicked on it,its just ridiculous that he thinks he knows everything!The smartest minds in the world cant explain how a 12000 yr old bell was found in a chunk of coal,among zillions of other out of place artifacts,It just kills me to try to talk to someone who refuses to even think of any other way than his
roro879 6 months ago
@roro879 I was trying to point out that the egyptian pictures of helicopters, etc aren't what they appear to be at all. If you are referring to person661982, then I would take a similar view of this ancient astronaut woo woo. Thats not to say its impossible, it just appears unlikely at this point. Just because there isn't an answer to something is no reason to jump to wild conclusions.
justtryharder 6 months ago
@justtryharder Yep,all Im saying is keep an open mind,this dudes head is slammed shut like a bear trap!!
roro879 6 months ago
@roro879 dont you think there's a more reasonable explanation? Spiderman comics exist, about a hero that lives in a real place "new york"., does that make spiderman real?
kly45 6 months ago
@kly45 IDK thats why I continue to ask questions,and keep an OPEN mind!
roro879 5 months ago
@roro879 That's not an open mind. An open mind is one that looks at all possibilty and chooses the most rational explanation. It's like the old saying "keep an open mind, but not too open that your brain falls out"
kly45 5 months ago
@kly45 Dude,just leave me out of this bullshit ok?Thanks!!!
roro879 5 months ago
@roro879 Rational and critical thinking are now "bullshit"? Ok man it's your fantasy.
kly45 5 months ago
@kly45 How bout go fuck yourself?
roro879 5 months ago
@roro879 okay, you're very welcome for me trying to give you some sense, prick. Believe whatever you like, just don't expect not to be called a friggen moron
kly45 5 months ago
if he spend 10 mins trying to debunk a few paintings, how long do you think it would take him to "debunk" every single monolithic structure ever created, underwater cities, 1500 year old object that is more complicated and precise than a modern day swiss watch, and 2000 Tonne, single cut blocks. not to mention Detailed maps of the land mass underneath the ice in Antarctica...... 4000 years ago. These are only a handful of mysteries completley unexplained in your theory, Please have more info.
xxvladekxx 1 year ago 2
This doesn't debunk anything. They say it's the announcement to the sheppards.... OK? wtf does that mean... it means a spae ship came down and announced it! haha THanks for not debunking this theory
stang217 1 year ago 2
i'm with you about the sun and the moon one. that seems likely, but the "madonna" nativity painting is clearly not an angel or any humanoid form. that one can't be as easliy explained. sorry dude.
jww312 1 year ago
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HeavensFugitiveRBG 1 year ago
Good job with the sun and the moon, but the rest of your comments are based on the assumption that God and Angels exist. I would be more inclined to believe in Ancient Astronaut Theory, there's clear videos of UFOs. The God and Angels in the clouds are thought by AAT to be ETs overseeing or engaging the characters in the events depicted. So again, kudos for the Sun and the Moon, but the rest is still open to debate. Keep going though, just be careful not to be blinded by faith.
backporchorganic 1 year ago
@backporchorganic besides that,thats one funky looking sun and moon,when evrything else in the painting appears to be normal,why would they make the sun and moon abstract,and nothing else?
roro879 6 months ago
This is all based on opinion. Scholars telling us what they thought earlier sources were interpreting the symbols as. It has absolutely no objective value other than to reinforce pre-existing belief systems.
kingofpotassium 1 year ago
@kingofpotassium Archeological lingusts cannot get by with basing interpretation by opinion. It can take up to 50 years of study by other archeological linguists and archeologists and anthropologists before they can agree on a consensus. This is not a trivial process.
truvelocity 1 year ago
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bwoods00 1 year ago
I don't think any of this did much to prove or disprove the ancient astronaut theory. It was insignificant evidence of anything even if it was what these theorists thought it was in the first place.
psychosis420 1 year ago
I think it's funny that you are try to debunk the art theories when the greatest amount of their proof comes from the written stories, ancient ruins, large structures, tons of research and in some cases helpful skepticism in the main view of how we evolved and how mega structures were built with primitive tools. I dont say that I agree totally but simply trying to debunk someones life work based on a few paintings wont work. Do more research into the theory and take a hard look at the universe.
mikekasher11 1 year ago
@mikekasher11 Hold your horses. This is about the paintings and only the paintings. I already did my research on the research on the structures of buildings and their carvings and learned what they mean by actual scholars on the subject and through it all, there were no visitors and by the way, the people's tools who built the pyramids mimic our modern tools. There were engineers back in time because through evolution, we have a cerebral cortex to interpret such things.
truvelocity 1 year ago
@truvelocity
I think you just wish to see it a certain way. You put to much faith into people telling you what you want to hear. Over the years many scientist have changed their views on what the symbols mean, and to claim that in ancient times they had tools almost equivalent to our modern day tools is ridiculous. Your cerebral cortex isn't capable of creating mathematics 1,000s of years ahead of the rest of the world. Plus lets not forget all the ancient stories that people like you forget.
mikekasher11 1 year ago
@mikekasher11 Chinese scrolls pre-date the Bible by 3,000 years and are far more accurate. While people of the desert were throwing stones at each other, the Chinese invented the Sun Dial. I'm educated and simply don't go by what seems to fit. I educate myself by reading contradictory reports and papers that disagree with my point of view and even if I don't like the answer, I read it.
truvelocity 1 year ago
@truvelocity
Interesting you only point to 3,00 years before the bible. If you are talking about the Christian Bible then you are off by a few thousand years. The Christian bible is based on the Jewish Bible. Egypt was around 3,000 years before the Bible was written and long before the Jewish and Islamic Bibles where written. People in the desert where not just throwing stones around they were developing a society but at a very slow rate that grew by leaps and bounds in a short period of time.
mikekasher11 11 months ago
@truvelocity
You may say your educated and read things that you don't agree with, but still read them even though you go into the paper biased. Going by what seems to fit and going by and educated guess are not the same thing. You are first assuming that archeology is a exact science. While dating an object might be, determining what the object is or what it did or means is totally different. If the Chinese are as far back as you have researched then you are not going back far enough.
mikekasher11 11 months ago
@truvelocity
You also need to look into all the structures all over the world that sprung up around the same time. It has already been proven that slaves did not build the pyramids it's likely a small group built them all. So either this group was highly advanced and secretive or it took many more years to build them than the timeline allows. It is possible we built them but unlikely we didn't have help. Why do you think its impossible to have had help? The idea doesn't put down on humans
mikekasher11 1 year ago
@mikekasher11 I did study ancient civilization and their masonry and their engineering. Man is capable of building what they visualize and its not because of some outside alien source.
truvelocity 1 year ago
@truvelocity I call bullshit on that statement. I have seen college professors try and recreate a structure, mostly on a small scale, but they usually try and do something that they could actually pull off. Look at the sculptures who tried to recreate the Olmec heads with the same tools believed to be used, they couldn't do it. They tried to lift a 100 ton block with ropes and pulleys and people, guess what they couldn't do it, the ropes kept breaking and the people where not strong enough.
mikekasher11 8 months ago
the sun and the moon are the only things that are here now that witnessed the crusifiction
pokeexpert1011 1 year ago
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somenoobz 1 year ago
A very good piece of research. Of course 'research' is alien [no pun] to most of the UFO brigade. Why research when you can simply reprint and spread the UFO gospel.
There is serious research going on with regard to the unexplained but it is seriously hampered and its credibility strained by those that would rather simply perpetuate tired myths.
periwest 1 year ago
I'm not saying those aren't representations of the sun, the moon, and angels, but you haven't made an argument for it, just show that, whatever they are, they show up everywhere in pagan and/or Christian art.
You're starting and ending with the assumption that these aren't UFOs, but objects of your faith. That's circular logic -- completely unreliable -- and just as bad as those who start and end with the assumption that these are UFOs.
richcapo 1 year ago
Its not just religious paintings that have these mysterious representations on them, indeed they exist the world over from oil to cave paintings, altho some might be judged as religious representations i do beleive that they also pepresent what we call ufo's
leanmachene 1 year ago
You got some points to your credit here, but just because one $ bill is false, does not mean all $ lbills are false. Only time will tell my friends, which one will get here first Jesus boy or Aliens...lol do your own research people ....you might be surprised with what you find out, oh and by the way when was the last time anyone saw jesus? and when was the last time some one credible saw a real UFO or its ocupants. The truth is that this beings have been fucking with us for a long time.
LOFIELful 1 year ago
God, people are idiots. You just can't pound shit into peoples heads nowadays, its rather scary that everyone will jump on the bandwagon with this crap.
Those two objects above the crucified Jesus Christ definitely looked like the sun and the moon in the other paintings. It was the exact same thing, and you are all telling him to do more research. So you're trying to pawn off the idea that aliens swooped into the landscape behind the crucified Jesus to get a better view of the show? Right.
rebelrocker14 1 year ago
We are not the only intelligent life in the universe. To believe that we are is really narrow-minded and quite arrogant. You can't stop life, all it needs are the right conditions. There are millions of galaxies, each with millions of stars.
Now, could that intelligent life get here. Probably, if it was advanced enough. Someone 5000 years ago could not imagine how advanced our lives are now.
Imagine what we could do in another 5000 years, or more.
GreenEggsAndHamster 2 years ago
@GreenEggsAndHamster I love how you call people narrow-minded. Why shouldn't it be possible we are the only intelligent life forms in the universe? Scientists have scanned the skies and rarely find stars with all the fundamental building blocks of life. Even when they all the circumstances have to be exactly right to sustain the type of life we are talking about. And we have yet to find proof otherwise.
Its taken us about 200,000 years to hit the Industrial revolution and get where we are now.
rebelrocker14 1 year ago
@rebelrocker14 I was commenting on the odds. Sorry, but they are not good. Lack of proof is not proof. Sure it is possible we are alone, but you must admit that we still can't see, or even understand, much of the Universe. Therefore, the greatest possibility is that we are not alone. Does that mean aliens came down to see Jesus? Of course not. These representations could mean anything.
GreenEggsAndHamster 1 year ago
in the first case i might be inclined to agree. after that (the last 2/3 of the video) its not right at all...
ManoKiaule 2 years ago
Judging by the comments here, trying to educate woowoos is like trying to herd cats. But kudos for the effort.
ReverendPl3bian 2 years ago 17
@ReverendPl3bian lol. trying to educate YouTube commenters (I think thats what you mean by woowoos), is more comparable to trying to herd carrots :P
ItsThatScienceKid 1 year ago
@ReverendPl3bian lol!! love this comment dude, gave me a big laugh :D
marsupialbeige 1 year ago
@ReverendPl3bian more truthful words have never been spoken.
Colonel10110 7 months ago
@ReverendPl3bian Agreed. Emotional reasoning is in no way reason.
symbian7 7 months ago
Most Artists are deep, complicated creatures
I feel you have made an argument for 1 perspective that is just as legitimate as what you are apposing however, only the Artist who did the work ultimately knows of the true msg & intent of their work, even if commissioned by others to have it done
the26thhour 2 years ago
1) not at all sun & moon. Doesn't even look like the ones on the other paintings. Defnitely a representation of evil forces in the sky.
2) again, not at all sun & moon. Clearly these are vessels. The artist even drew control handles in them! Unless you think he thought man could control the moon & sun.
3) Angels = Aliens
4) "God" looking at Jezus = Alien creators are looking at their creation.
You believe the "God" fairytale.
I choose to believe in reality.
Aliens are real.
CCLJunky 2 years ago
good try but i think u need to keep researching..
DARKTRUTH69 2 years ago 2