I very much prefer maunual transmissions on trucks. It has been my experience that automatics are subject to all kinds of electronics and air system problems and cold weather freeze up issues. I've been driving a stick since I was a child so manual shift doesn't even phase me.
"Loud mouth ,Know it all,Canadians". You drive junk(and not very well). You feel inferior on the highway,so you use the keyboard to "lash out" at TRIED AND TRUE PROFESSIONALS. It's pathetic.Go build a snowman so you can cry on his shoulder.
@chilfktr right... loudmouth knowitall ? sounds more like an american to me.. you just go on back to your double-wide with your sister/wife and your third cousin who you fuck on the side...and leave us alone.
yeah i'm looking at getting my own truck and i was wanting to know how you like the automatic. i was thinking about an ultrashift or a standard 13 speed. i dont mind shifting but i deliver alot of rock and sand in town with alot of stops but i didnt know how good the autos were. thanks
You are shifting this 13 wrong!!! You are pulling the splitter button down and then shifting the trans. This makes the splitter grind till you shift the trans and put power to it. This is like shifting down without the clutch. You must bring up the RPMs to make this shift. The same goes for the splitter.. RPMs must come up for it to downshift and this can not happen in neutral.. This is a most common mistake drivers make with the 13 speed.
It's an 18.. therefor your whole rant was wrong!!! Btw, I see every drive do this so unless you gimme a url to a valid persons argument as to why the splitter would grind before shifting... Then this is false.
I just graduated truck school and got my Class A CDL earlier this month. I might be going to orientation next week for Werner Enterprises. At the truck school, they had a 10 speed which was easy to learn. But I wonder if Werner is going to have me driving an 18 speed. Id be nervous about forgetting what gear Im in and going to shift and totally screw things up. But I guess thats why they have trainers at the truck companies. Lol
Don't worry about 18 speeds. The only way Werner would have an 18 speed, is a super trucker owner operator. Chances are they run tens, or thirteens. I prefer thirteens. And they are very simple to use
It depends on a lot of factors. Company customers, their running area, the area their in ect. Most times dispatch will get you out asap, but may take a day or two.
As for waiting for short miles, some times yes. Some times it takes two days to find a load where you are, to run short miles to a bigger area to get a high mile load
you do know you can shift any damn way you want? Bobtail you can go 4 split down, 5 split hi, 7th split low 8th split hi. Its entirely up to the driver. There is no wrong way to do it. It all depends on load and drivers choice.
With this job, there was no long trips. It was garbage haul to the dump site, wood chips back. 12 hrs day. If you broke down, there was a yard no more than three hrs away, and trucks shceduled every hour, so you could get home if need be
its suprising you did well infront of a camera... coz human Instinct is to look good and you make mistakes usually, i really like your vids but its true isn't it sean... and wouldn't you be shifting gears alot coz of 18 gears?
I like those type of vids, cause I wanna drive truck later ( I try to pass the test soon) and it shows some good things to do and not do with the truck
Actually, I find the arm rest is in the way when it's up, and interfear with the 2nd,4th,7th and 10th gear. So keep your "supertrucker" thoughts to yourself.
trkdrivingman49 700 revs ay geez you're rough on the gear the motor might do it but you would have serious oil pressure problems in time if you keep doing it
you may think you are changing gears correctly without a clutch however you are forcing gears out which will eventually crack and wear the spine which the sliding clutch moves on which will make it hard to release out of gear, you will also round off cogs which will make the gear release without pressure (fall out of gear)this is why you have a clutch, it takes more skill to use the clutch than without
Your thinking too hard, done properly a clutchless shift is harmless. As far as the spline and cogs go, it's easier to apply the shearing forces needed to crack the splines by using the clutch and you'll have to grind the gears like a bad habit to round off the dogs (the correct term). Skill wise it takes more skill to shift clutchless than with the clutch. Any idiot can change gears with a clutch but they'll be grinding them if they try to go clutchless.
I agree with you 100% Killer.....If you match your ground speed with your RPM's it will float right into the next gear. Actually shifting with out the clutch is no different then with...just less leg movement to wear out your knee. It's all about timing and finesse
If you correctly match road and engine speed... you'll never shift as smoothly with a clutch as you can without. The gears practicaly mesh themselves!
lets say you have a 10 speed (thats easy enough right??) anyway so your going into a curve thats 35 mph 3+5=8 or lets say its 25mph 2+5=7 so thats what gear you need to be in or lets say your slowing down and your in 10th gear going 65 and you slow down to 15mph 1+5=6 so thats what gear you need to be in its really simple and i used a very easy transmission on this one
I have been back on the manual transmission with an 18 speed since June and love it. Having never driven an overdrive transmission with a stick before( I am coming off of using an 18 speed autoshift) I was nervous but it came to me real easy and I wouldn't trade it for anything.
hey there i got an old pete with a 15 speed eaton fuller im wondering if im driving it correctly i go 1-5 move the spliter selector down then go back to 4-5 then the rage selector back down to 6-10
this 15 speed is a kinda a 10 speed with 5 low low gears that you have to use to take off loaded, the thing is these tranis have balls, the spliter is blue. i just found out my cousin has the same trani. the weird thing is 1st gear is bottom left, 2nd gear is middle top then 3rd down, but fourth is right bottom and fifth is right top
So what you are saying is with the blue button forward and in "deep reduction" you shift thru all the low gears then flip the blue button back and shift down one gear then repeat the last shift and then onto the high side??? That is fine on a 15, but not an 8LL.
all 5 gears on the low side on a 15 can be used in deep reduction. On an 8LL only the first gear is supposed to be used in DR but all will work in deep reduction on both an 8LL and 15. ALSO not all 15's shift in a U pattern just 15 over
Changing a 15 speed: In the low box you can go 1-2-3 or 1-2-3-4, or 1-2-3-4-5, but when you shift out of the low `box you have to go back one gear, then work your way up again.
hi Seansuth, I'm first time login to youtube account. I love to watch ur fantastic videos. I love the way u explain everything about the trucking. k now the question is, I'm lookin for a truck. I kinda like the Volvo VN670or 780 with Cummins ISX 500 including ZF Freedomline 12 speed Automatic Transmission. What u think about the combination with Volvo? Is it worth to spend the money on automatic transmission?
You were asking why he don't shift when coming to a stop. I can answer that one. Each time you downshift, you have to bring your rpms back up higher in the next lower gear thus wasting fuel.I can bring my C13 430hp Cat engine with the18 speed eaton fuller transmission and 391 rears down to about 700 rpms before i need to take a lower gear.
If I am coasting towards a red light i will just pace myself and let the rpms drop low and usually the light will change before I get to it, thus saving me from coming to a complete stop and wasting more fuel starting from a dead stop. It's all about conserving fuel these days.
Have you driven a super 10 speed before?I had to drive one the other day and struggled with it big time.The straight 10 is ok but the super 10 was a pain in the ass having to keep flicking the button up and down.
Yeah it was on Volvo.I didn't like it at all.You have to shift through about 5 gears just make a turn at an intersection..flicking that damn button up and down.What do you think about Volvos in general?Thay don't seem to have much power at least not compared to the Kenworth I usually drive(13 speed).
Know how that feels...after coming off the road for a bit...I was driving street collection garbage trucks. They are automatic...then went back to driving dump truck with an 8 speed double O Pattern...took me about a bit to get the hang of shifting again. But it's like riding a bike...you never really forget!!
Pretty good really for getting back from a automatic. I got back on a manual and the first day was rough but the old days are coming back, you could only get better.
um... maybe you didn't see the stop light, or the fact that I'm on a traffic filled road... Maybe you don't know I've been driving proffessionally for eight years... perhaps you should find out what "rookie" means before you try to use that word. And unless you know what your talking about, you really should keep your views and opions to yourself. thanks for watching
i saw you do it too. I do the same thing when i encounter a stop sign, pop it in neutral and then idle it into 3rd. No clutch involved. JLDA or whatever, i have been driving with my class A for two years and i still get more miles than drivers who have 12 plus years of experience. Just think that in two years time i'm going to be just as good as drivers that have 15 years. Call me a rookie or whatever, i will get more miles and will be more efficient than you ever could be.
Your right, it doesnt matter how long you've held a CDL, a mile is a mile, and if your sitting at a truckstop whining, your not making miles. I know guys who have less than 100,000 miles in ten years.
When you shift a 13 speed and you are in 6th for example, you flick the red button forward and are in 6 over...then release the red button back and shift stick to 7th gear and then red button forward to 7th over.Can you just be in 6th over and then shift the whole stick to 7th over without bringing the red button back?This is what I do and if 7th over is too high a gear I just flick the red button back to 7th.Also are using the clutch with the red button or not?Right now I do.
yeah, you can take a whole gear (6 over to 7 over) as for clutching when splitting, if Im cruzing down hill and want to shift a split, I use the clutch. other than that, just to start and stop
yeah we have to manually cancel the signal. also in the trucn indiactor arm is the hazard/4way flashers. thers a red pull lever thing that activates them, to cancel them you have to rock the singal arm
it's so idiots don't run into the back of us when turning, think about it. Besides have you seen a truck try to change a lane, every time you put a turn signal on no one wants to let you in. One of this days I will swing the back of the trailer and put few cars in the median, that will teach them.
Aka speed shift most common thing for truckers to do its easyer than double clutching Only time I use a Clutch is going up hill loaded It helps break the pressure on the tranny so your not grinding and slamin gears Not good for the old tranny Plus not useing the clutch your not burning the clutch break up some drivers dont pay atention to how far they push the clutch in thus burning up the clutch break
So when you down shift and you slow down to say 1100 rpm you just shift to neutral(bring rpm up to 1500) and then shift to lower gear all without using the clutch?Is this how to float a gear downshifting?
I have my licence now so I''l try that once my trainer is out of the picture.I went up to B.C. the other week through the mountains(cache creek and some place called kamloops).Nice scenery.
some place called Kamloops is actually a big place for the area. only three hours from vancouver. you'll find me sometimes at the top of the hill at the petro pass
yeah, then it is small lol. I start in the vancouver area and go to alberta and sometimes into the US. Im looking at a place that will have california runs tho
the creek is about 2 hrs north of me. if you remember Hope b.c, im 6 miles north. theres a Husky truck stop two minutes away from me, if you remember that stop on the west side
Yeah I remember a place called hope.I wouldn't want to drive throught those mountains all the time.I got a driving job going from northern california to nevada.Which company do you work for?Swift,crete etc..
I haven't heard of that company.What do they usually start people off at mileage or hourly wise for pay?Im probably just gonna stick to the flat roads for now and see how it goes.
i have been driving an 18 speed autoshift for the past 3 years and am going to an 18 with a stick shortly.I would prefer to keep the autoshift even though i always drive it in manual mode. so much easier just to push a button
It was never a turbo issue on lugging the old mechanical injected diesels anyway , It was crank and bearing damage that occured . Ya wound it up against the govenor to 2100 Rpms grabbed a gear and kept climbing up the gears ya lugged em to 1500 and down shifted . These newer engines can be lugged to 1,000 rpms and still be pulling like hell . Older ones ya dropped much below 1500 and you was hurting to regain momentum ,
Bit of redneck stuff... I used to drive a Renault G260 with an 18-speed SYNCHRO box for years on and off and it was so easy my wife even drove it once! The B18 is very easy, you don't have to fiddle with switches except for the splitter. Wide H pattern which changes the range when you gently push it over the centre line under 35 kph. Constant mesh boxes are for someone else but me.
hmm..13500rpm..you serious.? yeah, im not sure about that,..i dont have as much experience as you but do you still have to look at the tach?..i dont do that now,..im not criticizing you, im just saying that after sometime you tend to know when to shift and at what speed just by listening to the engine, sort of a "feel"..what engine is this anyways.?
serious. infact today the paclease was derating again, and was told to shift up at 1450 to 1500, down shift around 1400 to 1300 depending on the hill. now that I have been shifting for about a month, after over a year in an auto, I glance at the tach once in a while, but what I hear. most of the trucks have a cummins 485hp 18sp. also that was a diff. I drove nothing but cats before. cats feel,...better
wait, let me rewind a lil bit...13500rpm, you're talking about turbo rpm right.? not the engine itself. and personally, ive never driven a cat..ive driven cummins and detroit, actually my freightshaker has a 500 detroit 60 and its ok because parts are cheap when needed..ive heard parts for a cat are a bit..hmm...pricey.
You people need to relax and give helpul advice and not try to discourage him. I hate it when bobby-big-riggers think they are the only professional drivers o the road.
You people need to relax and give advice in a helpful manner and not try to talk seansuth down like he is an 8 year old. The guy is still learning. I hate it when bobby-big-riggers spout their mouths like they are the only proffessional drivers on the road. Help don't discourage.
glad you picked up on that ass wipe. do you know these are made to run between 1100 to 13500 rpm. tell me my rpms cuz you obviously know what theyre at.
I hate to sound like a total $@#4 but demar187 is a %#@%3 idiot and i see it to be quite obvious he has no clue what he is talking about.he must be reading some old text books.all new electronic motors have a safety mechanism for lugging and will cut out power if rpm's are creating a damaging effect usually around 8/900 rpms. where does he get this 13500? %#%#
first off, are u sure thats an 18?? it looks more like an 8 the way ur shifting.....second, ur using too much of the clutch when coming to a stop....dont! thats how u ruin ur clutch brake....when u got like a hundred feet left, get it into neutral and then as u slow down, "feel" it into first gear
it is the same gearing pattern as a 9 speed or what some would call a 8 and low difference is the splitter witch you can not see very well in the video in a 13 you can split the upper side of the transmission on a 18 both lower and upper side of the transmission.
yeah if you force it you'll hear it "rasping" agains the gear. the bast thing to do is figure out your land speed, with that, you'll be able to get the gear
I was putting a little pressure on the stick and it was grinding a little. I would give some rpms and it would go into gear. Is this what you were talking about?
depends on how bad the grinding is. one guy I drove with, after ten years on the road, he still did that. just rest the stick against the gear then bring the rpms to match. but if you FORCE the gear and make hamberger outof the gear, then you probibly should think about becomming a flower arranger :)
The only good part of the 18 speed over the 13 is you never have to worry about putting the splitter button back into low before putting the range selector back down into low. If you don't on a 13 you can fuck up the transmission.
The title of this video is "shifting 18 speed". What I saw was the shift pattern of a 13spd. I could tell when you pre-selected the dir. & od. splits that it was an 18spd. I was hoping you were going to show those who do not know, the advantage of being able to split all 5 gears in the low side of the trans. Thanks
I know, I just meant for demonstration purposes, but anyway, I always found the ability to split the basement very handy when starting off on a slight grade or starting from a dead stop loaded. Thanks for the comeback.
@truckerFG Usually it meant your off RPMs juuuust slightly, depending on the pop
seansuth 10 months ago
got to love the 13 and 18 speeds but he needs to learn how to shift i guess that if you cant find em grind em
redneck7006 1 year ago
are you shifting without clutch?
woofer987 1 year ago
I very much prefer maunual transmissions on trucks. It has been my experience that automatics are subject to all kinds of electronics and air system problems and cold weather freeze up issues. I've been driving a stick since I was a child so manual shift doesn't even phase me.
heartfire451 1 year ago 3
@heartfire451 Couldn't agree more
seansuth 1 year ago
scania trucks i wouldnt even use them for garbage trucks but the women are sexy lol
mrspydog50 1 year ago
@mrspydog50 This was a Peterbilt 376
seansuth 1 year ago
"Loud mouth ,Know it all,Canadians". You drive junk(and not very well). You feel inferior on the highway,so you use the keyboard to "lash out" at TRIED AND TRUE PROFESSIONALS. It's pathetic.Go build a snowman so you can cry on his shoulder.
chilfktr 2 years ago
@chilfktr right... loudmouth knowitall ? sounds more like an american to me.. you just go on back to your double-wide with your sister/wife and your third cousin who you fuck on the side...and leave us alone.
dueltruck700 1 year ago
hey sean, do u double clutch or float your gears???? i double clutch, its the way i learned how to drive a truck, so it just comes natural to me now.
13svincent 2 years ago
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tonyk2278 2 years ago
yeah i'm looking at getting my own truck and i was wanting to know how you like the automatic. i was thinking about an ultrashift or a standard 13 speed. i dont mind shifting but i deliver alot of rock and sand in town with alot of stops but i didnt know how good the autos were. thanks
calboy5858 2 years ago
Arrogance is the obvious point here
seansuth 2 years ago
Hahahaha! Yep, when all else fails, name call right?
seansuth 2 years ago
No, Scania are heaps, US trucks are a lot better, ask drivers that have driven here
seansuth 2 years ago
Also, trucks in the US (as standard) are 80,000 lbs, not 75000 lbs. Now, answer the question, did you see me shift 18 gears?
seansuth 2 years ago
First, this was in CANADA. Second, B trains in BC hold 160,000 lbs. Don't tell me things I've done dude. You don't know anything outside the UK
seansuth 2 years ago
Driving is different where your from. This truck pulls approx 75000 Kgs. So yes, 18 is more effective.
As for shifting every gear, Does it look like I shifted 18 gears?
seansuth 2 years ago
You are shifting this 13 wrong!!! You are pulling the splitter button down and then shifting the trans. This makes the splitter grind till you shift the trans and put power to it. This is like shifting down without the clutch. You must bring up the RPMs to make this shift. The same goes for the splitter.. RPMs must come up for it to downshift and this can not happen in neutral.. This is a most common mistake drivers make with the 13 speed.
1Pullnfool 2 years ago
It's an 18.. therefor your whole rant was wrong!!! Btw, I see every drive do this so unless you gimme a url to a valid persons argument as to why the splitter would grind before shifting... Then this is false.
BigRiggerJ 2 years ago
I just graduated truck school and got my Class A CDL earlier this month. I might be going to orientation next week for Werner Enterprises. At the truck school, they had a 10 speed which was easy to learn. But I wonder if Werner is going to have me driving an 18 speed. Id be nervous about forgetting what gear Im in and going to shift and totally screw things up. But I guess thats why they have trainers at the truck companies. Lol
Vorash2002 2 years ago
Congrats.
Don't worry about 18 speeds. The only way Werner would have an 18 speed, is a super trucker owner operator. Chances are they run tens, or thirteens. I prefer thirteens. And they are very simple to use
seansuth 2 years ago
Thanks for all of the videos you do. I am curious how long some truckers are stuck somewhere without a load?
Do you sometimes have to wait 2 days for a load that is only going 250 miles away?
TeddyRCacher 2 years ago
Sorry, didn't see your comment before.
It depends on a lot of factors. Company customers, their running area, the area their in ect. Most times dispatch will get you out asap, but may take a day or two.
As for waiting for short miles, some times yes. Some times it takes two days to find a load where you are, to run short miles to a bigger area to get a high mile load
seansuth 2 years ago
Hey eskimo, you added this video on my birth day!
kenworth9999 2 years ago
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Joshman598 2 years ago
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Joshman598 2 years ago
you do know you can shift any damn way you want? Bobtail you can go 4 split down, 5 split hi, 7th split low 8th split hi. Its entirely up to the driver. There is no wrong way to do it. It all depends on load and drivers choice.
bugablue 2 years ago 5
yeah depending on the state of the box too ! lol
MON383 2 years ago
Ill bet you'll be glad to get back to the eightteen eh ?
hockeysnipes27 2 years ago
Hey since you drive a day cab if you have to go on a long trip, where do you sleep?
pilotmanmax 2 years ago
With this job, there was no long trips. It was garbage haul to the dump site, wood chips back. 12 hrs day. If you broke down, there was a yard no more than three hrs away, and trucks shceduled every hour, so you could get home if need be
seansuth 2 years ago
Cool! Where are you heading off to today?
pilotmanmax 2 years ago
Im not driving right now
seansuth 2 years ago
sounds like perfect job for me. i like repetitive things.
teamwounder 2 years ago
i hope that johnny jinx isn't a turban cause we gotta enough of them pollutin' our highways.
ppslddx 3 years ago
dude i have a peterbilt 359 extended with a cat engine and a 18 speed to but i have a sleeper
themailman224 3 years ago
Cool,.. Aaaand??
seansuth 3 years ago
Hey,Rookie. U don't have an 18 speed in a 359.Either u have a 13 speed or u have a 379.
chilfktr 2 years ago
Did you reply to me or mailman224?
seansuth 2 years ago
@chilfktr 80 model 359 came out with 18 speeds 13 speeds 15 speeds ect you had your choice I know becouse I use to drive factory 359 with an 18 speed
kenworthK100234 2 years ago
its suprising you did well infront of a camera... coz human Instinct is to look good and you make mistakes usually, i really like your vids but its true isn't it sean... and wouldn't you be shifting gears alot coz of 18 gears?
18WoSHaulinCrew 3 years ago
not unless hes heavy. usually start splitting the gears when you go into high range. atleast i do
BlackHawkGIJ 3 years ago
Thoes are the gears yo pull back into. When the arm rest is up, when shifing it can get in the way. It sticks out from the seat.
seansuth 3 years ago
i think truck drivnig is a cool job. I'm going to Canada at about half year and I'm gonna be a driver :)
JonnyJinx85 3 years ago
I like those type of vids, cause I wanna drive truck later ( I try to pass the test soon) and it shows some good things to do and not do with the truck
youkouly 3 years ago
Lift the stupid arm rest up. Too many ppl drive with it down,interferring with gear changes.
ausbigbanga 3 years ago
Actually, I find the arm rest is in the way when it's up, and interfear with the 2nd,4th,7th and 10th gear. So keep your "supertrucker" thoughts to yourself.
seansuth 3 years ago
trkdrivingman49 700 revs ay geez you're rough on the gear the motor might do it but you would have serious oil pressure problems in time if you keep doing it
wmodel892 3 years ago
you may think you are changing gears correctly without a clutch however you are forcing gears out which will eventually crack and wear the spine which the sliding clutch moves on which will make it hard to release out of gear, you will also round off cogs which will make the gear release without pressure (fall out of gear)this is why you have a clutch, it takes more skill to use the clutch than without
ray6485 3 years ago
Your thinking too hard, done properly a clutchless shift is harmless. As far as the spline and cogs go, it's easier to apply the shearing forces needed to crack the splines by using the clutch and you'll have to grind the gears like a bad habit to round off the dogs (the correct term). Skill wise it takes more skill to shift clutchless than with the clutch. Any idiot can change gears with a clutch but they'll be grinding them if they try to go clutchless.
killer2600 3 years ago
I agree with you 100% Killer.....If you match your ground speed with your RPM's it will float right into the next gear. Actually shifting with out the clutch is no different then with...just less leg movement to wear out your knee. It's all about timing and finesse
CStrangeBlueticks 3 years ago
If you correctly match road and engine speed... you'll never shift as smoothly with a clutch as you can without. The gears practicaly mesh themselves!
DG121480 3 years ago
what do you mean to match tach and road speeds..
etchasketch9 3 years ago
lets say you have a 10 speed (thats easy enough right??) anyway so your going into a curve thats 35 mph 3+5=8 or lets say its 25mph 2+5=7 so thats what gear you need to be in or lets say your slowing down and your in 10th gear going 65 and you slow down to 15mph 1+5=6 so thats what gear you need to be in its really simple and i used a very easy transmission on this one
ozzmanluvsiron 3 years ago
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oregonorbust 3 years ago
I have been back on the manual transmission with an 18 speed since June and love it. Having never driven an overdrive transmission with a stick before( I am coming off of using an 18 speed autoshift) I was nervous but it came to me real easy and I wouldn't trade it for anything.
trkdrivingman49 3 years ago
Wow
nickitbabyyeah 3 years ago
who need a clutch hey ?
benmotorman 3 years ago
Not many truck drivers do. I never use it.
bugablue 3 years ago
man i love the sound of a big truck going up through the gears
dueltruck700 3 years ago 4
man is that an fld or what
swift99354 3 years ago
uh, no. its a pete 376
seansuth 3 years ago
hey there i got an old pete with a 15 speed eaton fuller im wondering if im driving it correctly i go 1-5 move the spliter selector down then go back to 4-5 then the rage selector back down to 6-10
inquietosllc 3 years ago
never drove a 15 spd, but hopefully some one will see your question and answer it
seansuth 3 years ago
this 15 speed is a kinda a 10 speed with 5 low low gears that you have to use to take off loaded, the thing is these tranis have balls, the spliter is blue. i just found out my cousin has the same trani. the weird thing is 1st gear is bottom left, 2nd gear is middle top then 3rd down, but fourth is right bottom and fifth is right top
inquietosllc 3 years ago
So what you are saying is with the blue button forward and in "deep reduction" you shift thru all the low gears then flip the blue button back and shift down one gear then repeat the last shift and then onto the high side??? That is fine on a 15, but not an 8LL.
all 5 gears on the low side on a 15 can be used in deep reduction. On an 8LL only the first gear is supposed to be used in DR but all will work in deep reduction on both an 8LL and 15. ALSO not all 15's shift in a U pattern just 15 over
Rawtrucker 3 years ago
Changing a 15 speed: In the low box you can go 1-2-3 or 1-2-3-4, or 1-2-3-4-5, but when you shift out of the low `box you have to go back one gear, then work your way up again.
aqua707 2 years ago
hi Seansuth, I'm first time login to youtube account. I love to watch ur fantastic videos. I love the way u explain everything about the trucking. k now the question is, I'm lookin for a truck. I kinda like the Volvo VN670or 780 with Cummins ISX 500 including ZF Freedomline 12 speed Automatic Transmission. What u think about the combination with Volvo? Is it worth to spend the money on automatic transmission?
bhupal85 3 years ago
stay away from autos. they are useless in the winter and cause more problems then its worth. but Volvos are ok
seansuth 3 years ago
you use the right arm rest? I always find it to be annoying. Although improper, i use the shifter as an armrest, he he.
Good vids man, i like them a lot.
mrmaster728 3 years ago
yeah well, the arm rests hold me in the seat when I take a corner too fast
seansuth 3 years ago
Why don't you shift down when commin to a stop??
gagetownfd 4 years ago
didnt get high enough speed to worry about it
seansuth 4 years ago
You were asking why he don't shift when coming to a stop. I can answer that one. Each time you downshift, you have to bring your rpms back up higher in the next lower gear thus wasting fuel.I can bring my C13 430hp Cat engine with the18 speed eaton fuller transmission and 391 rears down to about 700 rpms before i need to take a lower gear.
trkdrivingman49 3 years ago
If I am coasting towards a red light i will just pace myself and let the rpms drop low and usually the light will change before I get to it, thus saving me from coming to a complete stop and wasting more fuel starting from a dead stop. It's all about conserving fuel these days.
trkdrivingman49 3 years ago
Have you driven a super 10 speed before?I had to drive one the other day and struggled with it big time.The straight 10 is ok but the super 10 was a pain in the ass having to keep flicking the button up and down.
spade121981 4 years ago
no, I've used a straight once for a road test, but never a super
seansuth 4 years ago
Yeah it was on Volvo.I didn't like it at all.You have to shift through about 5 gears just make a turn at an intersection..flicking that damn button up and down.What do you think about Volvos in general?Thay don't seem to have much power at least not compared to the Kenworth I usually drive(13 speed).
spade121981 4 years ago
Volvos are alright. As a company driver, I'd be happy with a Volvo. Give me a 379 or a W900 with a Cat 13spd
seansuth 4 years ago
Know how that feels...after coming off the road for a bit...I was driving street collection garbage trucks. They are automatic...then went back to driving dump truck with an 8 speed double O Pattern...took me about a bit to get the hang of shifting again. But it's like riding a bike...you never really forget!!
Newfieguy89 4 years ago
Pretty good really for getting back from a automatic. I got back on a manual and the first day was rough but the old days are coming back, you could only get better.
hitman4hire70 4 years ago
um...why do you coast to a stop at the beginning? Making it obvious that your a rookie?
JLDA2K6 4 years ago
um... maybe you didn't see the stop light, or the fact that I'm on a traffic filled road... Maybe you don't know I've been driving proffessionally for eight years... perhaps you should find out what "rookie" means before you try to use that word. And unless you know what your talking about, you really should keep your views and opions to yourself. thanks for watching
seansuth 4 years ago
i saw you do it too. I do the same thing when i encounter a stop sign, pop it in neutral and then idle it into 3rd. No clutch involved. JLDA or whatever, i have been driving with my class A for two years and i still get more miles than drivers who have 12 plus years of experience. Just think that in two years time i'm going to be just as good as drivers that have 15 years. Call me a rookie or whatever, i will get more miles and will be more efficient than you ever could be.
mrmaster728 3 years ago
Your right, it doesnt matter how long you've held a CDL, a mile is a mile, and if your sitting at a truckstop whining, your not making miles. I know guys who have less than 100,000 miles in ten years.
seansuth 3 years ago
so it says 18 speed
that means 18 gears right?
I'd be so damn confused
uofl3000 4 years ago
yep 18 gears all together
seansuth 4 years ago
When you shift a 13 speed and you are in 6th for example, you flick the red button forward and are in 6 over...then release the red button back and shift stick to 7th gear and then red button forward to 7th over.Can you just be in 6th over and then shift the whole stick to 7th over without bringing the red button back?This is what I do and if 7th over is too high a gear I just flick the red button back to 7th.Also are using the clutch with the red button or not?Right now I do.
spade121981 4 years ago
yeah, you can take a whole gear (6 over to 7 over) as for clutching when splitting, if Im cruzing down hill and want to shift a split, I use the clutch. other than that, just to start and stop
seansuth 4 years ago
Ok sounds good.I still use the clutch all the time right now but as I gain more confidence I'll try not using it.Thanks.
spade121981 4 years ago
papa is there away yo could show me how to paraller parking?
djcheck32 4 years ago
I may do that as a tutorial
seansuth 4 years ago
I may do that as a tutorial
seansuth 4 years ago
what up sean there is a different pattern of shifting in all madels? like freightliner volvo or peterbuilt
djcheck32 4 years ago
the only pattern diff would be like a 10, 15, 13, 18 speed. the 13 and 18 are the same patt, but the 15 is diff
seansuth 4 years ago
the only pattern diff would be like a 10, 15, 13, 18 speed. the 13 and 18 are the same patt, but the 15 is diff
seansuth 4 years ago
lol why is it that i notice that semi turn signals don't shut themselves off, the driver has to do it? do they not turn off like on a regular car?
bedwards05 4 years ago
yeah we have to manually cancel the signal. also in the trucn indiactor arm is the hazard/4way flashers. thers a red pull lever thing that activates them, to cancel them you have to rock the singal arm
seansuth 4 years ago
it's so idiots don't run into the back of us when turning, think about it. Besides have you seen a truck try to change a lane, every time you put a turn signal on no one wants to let you in. One of this days I will swing the back of the trailer and put few cars in the median, that will teach them.
placham 4 years ago
i noticed when you were shifting, u didnt put in the clutch, is that ok for the trani?
bossman380 4 years ago
yeah it dont hurt it as long as your not forcen it into gear and what not
murphtony234 4 years ago
I float the gears as well
Liberty65 4 years ago
wat does it mean 2 float gears?
silerjd 4 years ago
when you float you don't use the clutch, you use your RPM's to shift. if you watch his left leg it doesn't move.
Cummins12valve96 4 years ago
Aka speed shift most common thing for truckers to do its easyer than double clutching Only time I use a Clutch is going up hill loaded It helps break the pressure on the tranny so your not grinding and slamin gears Not good for the old tranny Plus not useing the clutch your not burning the clutch break up some drivers dont pay atention to how far they push the clutch in thus burning up the clutch break
murphtony234 4 years ago
So when you down shift and you slow down to say 1100 rpm you just shift to neutral(bring rpm up to 1500) and then shift to lower gear all without using the clutch?Is this how to float a gear downshifting?
spade121981 4 years ago
yep. the rpms match at different speeds, eg 1200 matches at 1400 for a split gear 1200 to 1500 for a full gear
seansuth 4 years ago
I have my licence now so I''l try that once my trainer is out of the picture.I went up to B.C. the other week through the mountains(cache creek and some place called kamloops).Nice scenery.
spade121981 4 years ago
some place called Kamloops is actually a big place for the area. only three hours from vancouver. you'll find me sometimes at the top of the hill at the petro pass
seansuth 4 years ago
I live just outside of San Francisco so it seemed small to me.Where do you start your run from in BC?
spade121981 4 years ago
yeah, then it is small lol. I start in the vancouver area and go to alberta and sometimes into the US. Im looking at a place that will have california runs tho
seansuth 4 years ago
Yeah..that would be good.You wouldn't have to drive through the mountains and get some sunshine.
spade121981 4 years ago
yeah and warmer than -40f weather ive been in this winter lol
seansuth 4 years ago
-40 are you serious.I think it's cold when it's 60 degrees.That -40 stuff is for polar bears.The quicker you find a run to california the better.
spade121981 4 years ago
and infact if it was in january you went to cache creek, you drove right passed my place!!
seansuth 4 years ago
Oh ok.You live near cache creek?
spade121981 4 years ago
the creek is about 2 hrs north of me. if you remember Hope b.c, im 6 miles north. theres a Husky truck stop two minutes away from me, if you remember that stop on the west side
seansuth 4 years ago
Yeah I remember a place called hope.I wouldn't want to drive throught those mountains all the time.I got a driving job going from northern california to nevada.Which company do you work for?Swift,crete etc..
spade121981 4 years ago
I work for a Canadian company called Trinity. As for driving the mountains, I love it. I love the challenge of them
seansuth 4 years ago
I haven't heard of that company.What do they usually start people off at mileage or hourly wise for pay?Im probably just gonna stick to the flat roads for now and see how it goes.
spade121981 4 years ago
not usung the clutch.
poluboy 4 years ago
dont use the clutch using the rpms to shift i do that also
justinman135 4 years ago
no if yea no what ur doin you go by what the motor sounds like
deme2870 4 years ago
sounds like me trying to drive a 10 speed in 2007 international patstar 5900
murphtony234 4 years ago
i have been driving an 18 speed autoshift for the past 3 years and am going to an 18 with a stick shortly.I would prefer to keep the autoshift even though i always drive it in manual mode. so much easier just to push a button
trkdrivingman49 4 years ago
I say just Bang em!
imshawn 4 years ago
how does this work?
is it a 4 h gate where u keep changing?
justinmai4691 4 years ago
It was never a turbo issue on lugging the old mechanical injected diesels anyway , It was crank and bearing damage that occured . Ya wound it up against the govenor to 2100 Rpms grabbed a gear and kept climbing up the gears ya lugged em to 1500 and down shifted . These newer engines can be lugged to 1,000 rpms and still be pulling like hell . Older ones ya dropped much below 1500 and you was hurting to regain momentum ,
DIESELDEMON306 4 years ago
Bit of redneck stuff... I used to drive a Renault G260 with an 18-speed SYNCHRO box for years on and off and it was so easy my wife even drove it once! The B18 is very easy, you don't have to fiddle with switches except for the splitter. Wide H pattern which changes the range when you gently push it over the centre line under 35 kph. Constant mesh boxes are for someone else but me.
Rekku9 4 years ago
nice vid what kind of truck
bulletbullet119 4 years ago
pete 386 day cab, 18spd 485 horse cummins, three stage jake
seansuth 4 years ago
that is a hevy duty truck!!!!
pikero15 4 years ago
If you rest the gear shift against the gear,won`t it grind a little.
jldx2in2000 4 years ago
Nice vid mate!
:)
dan2010 4 years ago
hmm..13500rpm..you serious.? yeah, im not sure about that,..i dont have as much experience as you but do you still have to look at the tach?..i dont do that now,..im not criticizing you, im just saying that after sometime you tend to know when to shift and at what speed just by listening to the engine, sort of a "feel"..what engine is this anyways.?
demar187 4 years ago
serious. infact today the paclease was derating again, and was told to shift up at 1450 to 1500, down shift around 1400 to 1300 depending on the hill. now that I have been shifting for about a month, after over a year in an auto, I glance at the tach once in a while, but what I hear. most of the trucks have a cummins 485hp 18sp. also that was a diff. I drove nothing but cats before. cats feel,...better
seansuth 4 years ago
wait, let me rewind a lil bit...13500rpm, you're talking about turbo rpm right.? not the engine itself. and personally, ive never driven a cat..ive driven cummins and detroit, actually my freightshaker has a 500 detroit 60 and its ok because parts are cheap when needed..ive heard parts for a cat are a bit..hmm...pricey.
demar187 4 years ago
oh heck no. I dont have a boost guage, and havent for a while. the rpms Im talking about are engine.
seansuth 4 years ago
You people need to relax and give helpul advice and not try to discourage him. I hate it when bobby-big-riggers think they are the only professional drivers o the road.
tloger 4 years ago 2
You people need to relax and give advice in a helpful manner and not try to talk seansuth down like he is an 8 year old. The guy is still learning. I hate it when bobby-big-riggers spout their mouths like they are the only proffessional drivers on the road. Help don't discourage.
tloger 4 years ago
no shit..and not to mention you're way low on the rpm's man...did you know that most turbo damage is cause by driving the engine at low rpm's...
demar187 4 years ago
glad you picked up on that ass wipe. do you know these are made to run between 1100 to 13500 rpm. tell me my rpms cuz you obviously know what theyre at.
seansuth 4 years ago
I hate to sound like a total $@#4 but demar187 is a %#@%3 idiot and i see it to be quite obvious he has no clue what he is talking about.he must be reading some old text books.all new electronic motors have a safety mechanism for lugging and will cut out power if rpm's are creating a damaging effect usually around 8/900 rpms. where does he get this 13500? %#%#
Whitelinefilms 4 years ago
Complete crap.
Turbochargers run on various rev ranges from low to high engine speeds.
dan2010 4 years ago
correct.
Whitelinefilms 4 years ago
first off, are u sure thats an 18?? it looks more like an 8 the way ur shifting.....second, ur using too much of the clutch when coming to a stop....dont! thats how u ruin ur clutch brake....when u got like a hundred feet left, get it into neutral and then as u slow down, "feel" it into first gear
jlfan40280 4 years ago
it is the same gearing pattern as a 9 speed or what some would call a 8 and low difference is the splitter witch you can not see very well in the video in a 13 you can split the upper side of the transmission on a 18 both lower and upper side of the transmission.
Whitelinefilms 4 years ago
So to much pressure will make it grind?
jldx2in2000 4 years ago
yeah if you force it you'll hear it "rasping" agains the gear. the bast thing to do is figure out your land speed, with that, you'll be able to get the gear
seansuth 4 years ago
any videos of ole twin shift trucks
ladaladaladalada 4 years ago
no, unfortunatly only driven the ones like in this video
seansuth 4 years ago
I was putting a little pressure on the stick and it was grinding a little. I would give some rpms and it would go into gear. Is this what you were talking about?
jldx2in2000 4 years ago
yeah sort of. Im sure your doing ok. Just enuf presser (using your fingers is the right amount) to pop thru the gate, then raise rpms
seansuth 4 years ago
Thank you for the advice i appreciate that.
jldx2in2000 4 years ago
is thst ok to do that?
jldx2in2000 4 years ago
depends on how bad the grinding is. one guy I drove with, after ten years on the road, he still did that. just rest the stick against the gear then bring the rpms to match. but if you FORCE the gear and make hamberger outof the gear, then you probibly should think about becomming a flower arranger :)
seansuth 4 years ago
when i was in neutral i would shift to a gear and if it was grinding i would give it some rpms
jldx2in2000 4 years ago
if you shift in neutral and coast,how do you find your gear without grinding it?
jldx2in2000 4 years ago
look at your land speed, not your rpm. If your doing about 20kph, your around fourth gear. with time, you get the feel for it
seansuth 4 years ago
The only good part of the 18 speed over the 13 is you never have to worry about putting the splitter button back into low before putting the range selector back down into low. If you don't on a 13 you can fuck up the transmission.
blarsonchicago 4 years ago
This is also correct.a 18 speed transmission has very few limited applications .
Whitelinefilms 4 years ago
The title of this video is "shifting 18 speed". What I saw was the shift pattern of a 13spd. I could tell when you pre-selected the dir. & od. splits that it was an 18spd. I was hoping you were going to show those who do not know, the advantage of being able to split all 5 gears in the low side of the trans. Thanks
18spd51 4 years ago
yeah it is an 18, but I shift it as a 13, that area no need to split the basement
seansuth 4 years ago
I know, I just meant for demonstration purposes, but anyway, I always found the ability to split the basement very handy when starting off on a slight grade or starting from a dead stop loaded. Thanks for the comeback.
18spd51 4 years ago
well maybe I'll film that soon. thanks for the idea
seansuth 4 years ago
Its a better driving experience in many ways...but it can get tiring in towns
herefordmsv 4 years ago