i understand that gamestop cant go bankrupt for trade ins but they can atleast give you better in store trade in yeah of course its more than cash price but it is still ripping you off on trade in i mean you gamestop sells the new used games for 55 only a 5 dollar difference with making that much profit they can at least give the consumer the benefit of the doubt and give good in store credit
@calbone1215 maybe they could do a little more but that's what shopping around is for. and ultimately it isn't that bad. If you have an Edge card you can get 25+ dollars on newer games. Not too shabby.
it has all the little things we could play around with and gave us the chance to mod it and make our own modes like COD1.
the single player is fun if you just start FPS games and not to hard that you dont know what your doing. MW2 kind of needed you to play at least 1 other FPS game before you played it becouse it is a little bit more intence.
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It is a huge change to not have dedicated servers. IW is trying to shut out the PC community because they realize that is somewhat a dieing breed and they just want to make money. I have played COD4, 5, and 6 on PC, PS3, and the 360. If you started on console and are use to not being able to choose the exact server you want, it doesn't seem like a big deal. But if you go the extra mile to do so (buy/ build a PC) and something like MW2 comes out, that company took a giant shit on your face.
dedicated servers could be fun. but i really dont give a shit about is there dedicated servers or not... its a great game and those who boycott mw2 are just immature or ignorent..
im just saying that itsw a great game but there are no dedicated servers. and i dont care if they rob us from our money with the game if they managed to make a super great game even if they were lazy im sorry but thats my oppinion
@CossuMaister " dedicated servers could be fun. but i really dont give a shit about is there dedicated servers or not... its a great game and those who boycott mw2 are just immature or ignorent.."I Wouldent say Ignorant and or inmature Theay are just protecting there assets.I mean Cmon I spent $800+ on my computer and oh yeah xbox 360 maybee $500 Yeah I really think SO servers Is Nothing To big to ask For.The game is really kinda expensive too Forreal ppl.
I agree with you that the MW2 PC boycott is stupid. But Infinity Ward has made a very flawed system, one such flaw is that because a match gets hosted on a persons computer you can actually get viruses and trojans from them through the IWNET system. Another is because not everyone has the best internet sometimes you get games that a really laggy, because this person doesn't have the connection to support all of these people who want to play.
(continued) And the final 2 points I will put are you can't make any custom matches - halo 3 is an exception because Bungie did the matchmaking system well - MW2 you are really limited as to what you can do since you can only choose the presets. And finally (although not really relevant to the game) all the consoles had special editions of the game, whilst the pc had none. I know that's not really a factor, but it is unfair.
The "boycott" (its a peition) is nothing more than an organized declaration that many players will not buy the game if it does or does not contain certain features deemed crucial to the signatories enjoyment of the game. How does that not make sense? What's the alternative? To buy the game even though they think they aren't going to have much fun playing it? Do you go through life forcing yourself to buy things you think you might not get much out of because you don't want to "boycott?"
Also, console gamers usually play a game for a little while, then switch over to a new game, over and over again. PC Gamers will play the same game for years. I still play the original Starcraft and it's been around over 10 years...it's a sport in Asia. And PC Gamers will often spend a lot of money on their rigs, so buying a new game every other month hurts a little more. That's another reason why we're complaining about the $60 price tag.
Ugh, you really have to play PC to understand why we're upset. It's not just about customization. Dedicated servers are business class servers that are DEDICATED toward hosting the game. Our ping is almost nothing. Without them, we have to rely on Peer-to-peer which is wayyyy slower. One jackass running an anti-virus program can lag the entire game. Plus, the host has 0 ping so it ruins competitive game play.
15, 16, 17 isn't adult... some don't even classify 18 as being a true adult. anyway, when I hear "these adults" talking why do they all sound like little girls? I would think a dude's voice would be low by 15 don't you? So there is a puberty crisis on the rise!? lol. You know nothing of competitive play. Pc gaming invented it. It invented most of the games you play today. It set the standards, the rules, all of it. Console=casual. Devs know it, thats why console games r easy.
Not to contradict myself either. My reference to PC gaming setting the standard... online play, graphics, etc. You look at cod4 for instance, it is kind of a nooby game, fun but nooby. Competitive gameplay had to be modded for balance.
Playing FPS games on consoles are for babies. Period... If there ever was a crossover on an FPS game between PC and Xbox Live or even your PS3 homies, console lovers will get raped...
babies? Well first, it's the same game on any platform, and two if the console shooters are for babies why is it that ALL of the professional Halo 3, and COD players are all console players. When't the last time you saw a professional gamer that only played on PC. you fail.
"When't the last time you saw a professional gamer that only played on PC"
I am a PC gamer and i really dont care for pro gamers.
The fact is that the "standardization" is not justified its not improving multi gameplay its getting worse now we are stuck on a standard of the console which is just awful compared to PC. Whats next, judging on the situation, in a few years they will go on a "standard" of a gameboy. Would you like the fact that your console is degraded to that level, dont think so.
You are right dude, dedicated servers isn't such a bad thing and quite honestly I am GLAD they didn't give dedicated servers, that takes away allot of hackers and hacking abilities. I've been playing fps games since team fortress and I am so glad that we finally have a good fps without cheaters getting away with bullshit. Good review. If you want add me on the PS3 network: SK-Dubrok
no dedicated servers, no lean, 18 max players on a server, no kick or ban options.. high price for a boned up prettier and slightly improved version of the previous game.. etc.. IF ALL THESE THINGS ARE TRUE, then we should boycott.. they didnt learn what we like even after the unreal tournament 3 situation, shame
as a pc gamer, I am planning of buying the game tomorrow, I understand your arguments about dedicated servers and matchmaking. I really dont care about dedicated servers, what really pissed me off was the 10 dollar price up for pc, and that they canceled the ability to lean. Leaning is very important for us pc gamers, it can make a really huge difference. I just hope that future patches will enable leaning for the pc. I enjoyed modern warfare and halo 3's match making system.
from bashandslash. MW2 is a mixture of PC mods turned into a console port. IW takes from the community and then takes a dump on us. Wonder what the next cod from iw is gonna be like since they won't have modders.
ac130 taken from cod4xtreme mod bashandslash search it.
If I start seeing $60 for PC games as common place, well I'm not going to be upgrading my video card next time. I'll just buy the game for my console. This all leads to the death of GPU makers Nvidia and ATi.
you are so stupid eagle. You know nothing about pc gaming.1 when you play on pc servers you can have more than 16 players in a vs match. 2 better graphics 3 mods ( character and map mods) so pc is way better. n yeah i use to be a console gamer until they (xbox 360 and ps3) died on me. So i have no heating issues enjoy better graphics mods n i have more fun the thing with the boycott that you don't fucking understand is that they want to jack up the prices and make it like consoles.
And on a side note, yes the Left 4 Dead 2 boycott was kind of silly, though I don't completely disagree with their sentiment. I think the reason for it wasn't so much that they were mad about the features (or lack of) in the game so much as they were shocked and upset by such an uncharacteristic move by Valve - launching a sequel less than a year after the original, rather than supporting the original with lots free DLC like they have with almost every other major release of theirs.
It's not so much a boycott as it is just everyone just not buying it now. Everything they're doing is a downgrade to how things currently work on the PC.
They're console-izing the PC version of the game - they even took out the ability to lean around corners for God's sake. While the lack of dedi servers (and the communities around them), p2p connection, and etc doesn't seem like a big deal to you... Those things are staples of PC gaming. They're WHY we play on a PC instead of a console.
Key points in your argument that the boycott is stupid: "It doesn't lag THAT MUCH...", "It's just not AS customisable".
The range of PC's and internet connections being used to play the game means that a server can come with such a mixed bag that the game can become un-playable due such high pings and immense lag.
Spend a few months playing COD4-multi on PC then go back to your chosen console and tell me you don't see a noticeable difference.
well I would but I don't have a gaming PC besides I can already tell you that the lag would be about the same on both. I rarely had any laggy games at all. and you can't even play online with less than 10 megs so that argument is mute.
That's the point. You can't play online with less than 10megs (i really didn't know that, that sucks) using matchmaking style multiplayer systems whereas many people playing the PC version have far below that because of various limitations such as distance from exchange, etc.
PC gamers don't want this new multiplayer system because the people with decent rigs and connections would suffer greatly at the hands of someone with the total opposite but who is hosting the game.
You got some good points gamingeagle19, but I feel like your trying to make us PC Gamer sympathize IW or Activision. You are right, we can stick with other games rather than complain.
But your point about playing the single player instead of the multiplayer if we are discontent about the multiplayer, does not make sense to me. You want us to pay $60 for a single player game? Oh, you should suggest that we illegally download it and just play the single player instead of paying $60. Good stuff!
You guys shouldnt boycott your going to get kick out of the place by the cop`s just say what you think to infinity ward im getting it for the ps3 but i love the mod`s for the pc version is really not fair why punish pc player`s like that i think there doing it because the last one`s were downloaded illigally if they dont put the server`s well live whyt it is not the end of the world of buy a ps3 or 360 or make a mod for cod4 that has everything that mw2 has
If your not a pc gamer you wont understand. I could go into details about why it's going to suck, but I'm pretty sure the comment limit would be reached. It's obvious to any pc gamer that this is a complete joke. I wont support console schemes and either should you.
A lot of PC guys don't just play and pay for PC gaming because of the graphics; we play for the PC experience.
BF2 is an amazing game. To say it has been going strong since its release without giving credit to mods is just plain not understanding the impact of mods.
I'd love to play MW2, but $60 (a precedent), no ded. servers (lag among MANY other issues), no credit to modders, and DLC are like a brick wall. I won't enjoy playing the game no matter how hard I try.
I'm a pc user . One of the only reasons people bought the pc version is cause we love the mods such as infection and how we can choose what map and how many people etc. I am part of the boycott and 190,000 people have signed the petition against infinity ward. Many people are seriously pissed off. They are ruining the pc version for us
Ok, I'm a pc gamer and I am very active with this issue with IW. Let me explain: No dedicated servers takes away tons of money from server based companies. No DS means no great mods. Like the infamous zombie mod for CODMW. No DS means shorter game life. No DS means smaller player count 8 vs 8 when we are use to 20 vs 20. Ever wonder why on consoles fps games die after just 5 months? Its becuz no one is adding their own content. Developer content not enuff to keep u from leaving & u get charged.
Halo 3 has been popular for over 2 years. People still play the first one. Killzone 2 is still popular, L4D2, and many others. Also MW2 supports 18 people online so it's actually a step up for us. I understand your point but console online works very well.
How about competetive gaming? How about training for matches ?
How about creating server that has rules like no martydom, no noobtoob and no bunnnyhopping. This might sound silly and picky to some people, but thats how some people like it. That was a no.1 reason why our server was full all the time, because we had those rules. So now we cant kick or possibly ban players who break server rules. Custom maps and mods make the game last longer. Control of my gaming experience, thats all.
Killzone 2 and Left 4 Dead are new games. People still play Halo becuz it makes console gamers feel like they have great aim by making it widely accessible to casual gamers through massive aim assist. The only way u can really understand is by experiencing our life. Take for instance, Shadow of Chernobyl pc our own people made a mod called Stalker Complete that adds HDR and sleeping bags and better aim and much much more. If u were to play this game b4 & after the mod u will understand more.
I was just making a point that console games don't have a "5 month" lifespan. You don't have to get all technical on me. But regardless, game value and life isn't determined by how many mods come out. It's determined by the content the game comes with. That's how I see it.
Well, that is in ur world. For pc mods do determine the lifespan of a game. Are u aware that w/o the mods from pc u will have no Counterstrike. Mods made Counterstrike. Lastly, we pc gamers play games that are 10-15 years old sometimes older in masses. We keep those games fresh by constantly improving the play of the game and graphics. HDR -High Dynamic Range.
that's precisely my point though. The game itself was weak so you needed mods to keep it going. If a game is strong enough it can keep going for years.
No dude u don't understand. Modders actually made the game as in created it. Valve bought the rights to it and now we have CounterStrike Source. Btw, Counterstrike may suck on consoles but it is the best FPS ever created on the pc. If u logged on pc today u will find more servers running on it than most modern games. Just so u know, Counterstrike is like the god of fps pc gaming for pc gamers. I'm sure u made alot of pc gamers gasp when u said it is weak. Lol.
Another thing is u know all those great weapon perks that come standard with CODMW? Those were created by mods that think out of the box. Infinity is now acting like they came up with all these great ideas when in fact they got it from pc gamer mods. Then they repay us by shutting us down AFTER ripping all of our great work and taking all the credit. Pathetic.
Also, the game may "allow" 9 vs 9 but the majority of time u will not see this. Not without huge amounts of lag that is for sure. My question for u is have u played Halo 2 when they had the dedicated servers up when the game was first introduced? Becuz if u did u will be pissed at how much better that game played b4 they dropped those servers. Probably a good thing u haven't. Once u get use to DS u can never go backwards to P2P.
no I did not. The first time I got online was a couple of years ago. and you are probably right with the whole not going back thing but it can still be fun. For example, I had a standard tv for over a year when I got the 360. It was fine for me because the graphics were still great. When I got HD it got much better and now going back to standard is very different. But I can still do it because I know it's just a temporary thing.
Dude , you said it , you will have the same multiplayer experience you always have had on your xbox. Us PC'ers cannot say the same , so please dont say this boycott is stupid. What if they changed your multiplayer on the xbox dramatically ,, would you bitch then ??? i think so. Think before you post a video next time please.
I think people are annoyed cause they get like 15 bucks in trade in credit for a game that they'll turn around and sell for 55... 5 dollars less than new... I could see if they made say 25-30% but they make a shit load more than that more like 70%
that gamestop opening games shit is bullshit... cause honestly they could use them or they could be returns that are just in new condition... you don't go to video stores and buy new ( opened ) movies!!! nevertheless they also put damn stickers on the cases which... ya I'm not buying that. They do it because of LP reasons well get some real cases on the games etc and stock them like every other place. ( or just buy a damn nice printer and make fakes with empty cases I mean how hard is that...
MW2 is now the biggest boycott in the history of gaming (over 100,000 boycotters), and though it will not stop MW2 from selling millions, it is sending Activision and IW a message that this is a big issue. That's the purpose of a boycott, to send messages and to force devs and publishers to respond.
There are many many benefits to developing on the PC platform and that's why PC gamers are given privileges such as dedicated servers, mods, clan support, custom maps, level editors, developer tools, etc. For a developer like IW, which started out as a PC dev mind you to ignore all this is pure wrong.
The reason is simple tho and that's the fact that Activision wants to charge for DLC. By disabling mod support, users can no longer produce free dlc. That's the issue here n if u ask me
With a game as big as MW2, the issue shouldn't be seen as "oh, guys, it's just one game." No, what we're afraid is that this might be the beginning of a new trend. If that's the case, then MW2 PC version MUST absolutely be boycotted.
Unlike consoles, there's absolutely no licensing fees to worry about on the PC platform (which is why pc games for $50 and cheaper), and user base helps run the games, which cuts down maintenance costs by a LOT.
We understand you console guys are used to what you have but us Pc guys pay thousands for systems because we can do mind blowing stuff with games. We would just buy a console if there was a comparison but consoles and pcs dont compare. we had a new zark rifle commissioned for ut2004, when we get a game its life expectancy is maybe a decade because we keep reinventing it with mod tools ,we even still play the original ut , when we saw mw2 we thought omg, the stuff we can do with this game :(
I understand but it's just for one game and I'm sure you can have plenty of fun with MW2. Now unless this whole "no dedicated servers" deal becomes a regular thing I would just live with it.
right, pc games have have amazingly long lifespan.
Go back to CoD1 and guess what, you can play with modern weapons in that game, and some servers have a user-created perks system, a system which I personally prefer over the CoD4 perks system.
Console games can't come close to that brilliance and that's one of the major issues with this whole deal.
I say lets burn Valve, Activision and Infinity Ward to the ground. L4D2 is a full game that they are releasing after last years full price BETA. And now IW is stabbing the ones who made them what they are today, in the back. All these developers needs some setting straight.
IW are the makers of some of the first Call of Duty games, and those were exclusive to the PC. Ergo the PC community is what made the CoD series so popular. The series didn't start at CoD4 you know. Anyway the main point is, that developers should never bite the hands of the consumers, because ultimately the consumers are the reason they exist. I've owned every single CoD game, and though im not the biggest fan ever, I think the games are solid. This just shows IW only cares about money.
I'm aware that the first couple of COD's were on PC but they were ported to the consoles where they sold very very well. And I don't see how getting rid of dedicated servers gets them more money. If anything it hurts them.
This is Infinity Wards way of showing they're greedy assholes. Without dedicated servers and no mod support, they CAN sell pc gamers whatever they want (such as maps, and other additions), on Cod4 there's and unlimited array of options for maps, weapons, and other mods.
nice point of view man ..BOYCOTT SUCKS!.. IW woked there heart and soul for this game and it shows...go and buy ur noob ass games...n boycott this haaha
We are a clan,we like our own servers,someone swears we kick them,we can password or public,our servers are moderated, its our community , our home, our individuality ,its not the price of the game, we would probably pay extra if we had dedicated servers. no dedicated servers = no clan or community+ we put our servers local to where we live. whats not to understand ?
ppl shut up... this guy is stupid! just cuz u guys r getting a little less than wat used to u r all crying... and u ppl don't know the whole story.... MW2 switched cuz of hacks!! the hacks that ppl put in the game was outrageous and it was so easy to do!! with the new server they won't b able to do that anymore... and console games never got wat u guys had ( PC gamers ) so now u guys hav exactly wat consoles hav... so boo hoo for u!
let me put it to you this way. Lets say MW3 comes out and says to console gamers, instead of having the multiplayer you've had for years, you are only allowed to play with the people in your neighborhood online and you can only choose from 2 matches what would you do?
Sorry for saying this PC gamers but even with that change i think it's too extreme to be promoting a boycott: eventually you'll realize its your loss on missing out such a great game... do your little "boo hoo" boycott, that wont keep the game from being released and 1000's of gamers STILL buying it! Peace. PS i'm a PC gamer also.
Hackers and server nazis are what made go to console. It's a better game on PC, but I just didn't find it worth the annoyance of little arseholes dictating and booting as the feel like it.
No sympathy from me. It's the PC users own fault. Now PC gamers have to take it up the arse like the rest of us. Karma.
They can't take it in right away, it's just too fast too crazy and no1 likes to think that some1 can play better than them. So, what do they do? They call hacker. it isn't just one game. If we buy this it will continue to get worse for us with more and more games.
Anyway we come from different worlds, you guys have your multiplayer, we have ours.
Also console gamers should show a little respect for PC gamers. Without us your consoles wouldn't exist. Cod def would not exist.
Iw's reasoning is absurd. what PC gamers were giving them this feedback? Console gamers trying out the PC version? I mean it had to be. a server browser is easy to use. Looking at ping is easy. We don't need cell phone bars. Hackers? they exist, everywhere. I wouldn't be surprised though if many of these suspected hackers were just good players. First time a console guy hops into a PC fps.. its a crazy mess.
You guys (console) don't get where we are coming from cause most of you have never experienced it. We shouldn't be getting any flak from any of you, the PC version doesn't matter to you, so why do you care?
You need to understand that we (meaning PC gamers) come from a very different community. What works for you doesn't work for us... dedicated servers are a standard and have been. IW is and has(from what I have seen) wants to kill the community. Competition on private servers will not be fair.
Ofcourse running a server from your home connection is still crap.
And that pretty much sums it all up. Gamers that are used to playing a game, modified, with ultra low ping, are boycotting because they will not be able to do so anymore, in MW2.
with much "clearer" graphics, wider view on the screen, better report rate from and to the server, higher upload packets and lots of other stuff ... Making much easier to spot the target, shoot more accurately, have much more fluid gameplay etc. Which, I personally think, completely destroys the spirit of the game. And this new multiplayer will eliminate that. Making the game more fair and enjoyable for all players. And that is why I'm against this boycott.
But ofcourse not everyone is Pro Gamer. And that why this new multiplayer is actually a good thing. Because now, anyone can mod their own game using config. files . And even on a same server. Two players are actually playing two completely different games. "Regular" player is playing @ default. Lets say aorund 100fps normal graphics etc ... While the other player can completely modify his game. And have 999fps, modified graphics, field of view etc ... And by that having an unfair advantage ....
Two exactly the same "skill level" players. One with lets say 20 ping, other with 60 ping . The with 60 literally wouldn't stand a chance. And with an average home connection, players wouldn't be any less then 100 ping. ( but probably higher ). Then we have that high level of customization . Which is also crucial for competitive community. And actually its based upon it. On "mods" like ProMod ... etc. And that is why the whole competitive community is worried .
About Modern Warfare 2 PC, dedicated server stuff ...
The whole competitive community is based on dedicated servers and customizations. 1st. Dedicated servers are not running from your home connection. They are "server boxes" basically directly attached to 100Mb up/down node. So you can have match with up to 64 players for example, all having 20 or less ping. Which impossible with a server running on your home connection. And having that small ping is crucial for competitive and fast gameplay.
I think this boycott is pretty assanine and I agree with you. I know people want dedicated servers but I saw a GT thread the other day about how this guy talked about how infinity ward seems like their exclusively making MW2 for The xbox When it is a multiplatform game. I thought he was a fanboy be had a good point. This reminds about an EBC episode where they were talking about how some Devs make'em for mainly one console but they put the games on all of systems.
gamestop sucks!!!
TheBisMan1 1 year ago
@TheBisMan1 how very insightful.
gamingeagle19 1 year ago
@gamingeagle19 thanx!!!
TheBisMan1 1 year ago
Don't just Boycott MW2, boycott Activision and more specifically Bobby Kotik.
WOBblob 1 year ago
i understand that gamestop cant go bankrupt for trade ins but they can atleast give you better in store trade in yeah of course its more than cash price but it is still ripping you off on trade in i mean you gamestop sells the new used games for 55 only a 5 dollar difference with making that much profit they can at least give the consumer the benefit of the doubt and give good in store credit
calbone1215 1 year ago
@calbone1215 maybe they could do a little more but that's what shopping around is for. and ultimately it isn't that bad. If you have an Edge card you can get 25+ dollars on newer games. Not too shabby.
gamingeagle19 1 year ago
Modern Warfare 2 is a incredible game, so cutt the bullshit;) buy a console
and please don't cry about those bullshit dedicated crap
Peace
realiteitspaard 1 year ago
you should Sonic 4 thier Ass.
conradojavier 1 year ago
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sythe179 1 year ago
MW2 is what PC gamers wanted.
it has all the little things we could play around with and gave us the chance to mod it and make our own modes like COD1.
the single player is fun if you just start FPS games and not to hard that you dont know what your doing. MW2 kind of needed you to play at least 1 other FPS game before you played it becouse it is a little bit more intence.
if people dont think anything what iv said is correct, vote down or comm
sythe179 1 year ago
to point out first, im a PC gamer.
now, if you go back to call of duty 1, it started on pc then was ported over to consoles.
it has all the features on PC that we wanted back then, and now, if we want different stuff, we mod it.
same with call of duty 2. we have to skip COD 3 becouse it was not made by IW.
with MW2, it is missing 70% of things people "These Days" play games for.
taking them away is like....well...theres nothing i can say or think of that discribes it.
sythe179 1 year ago
mw2 multiplayer is garbage
KarmaDebt 1 year ago
cause they want diabetic PC nerds to get off there asses, thats why.
onemanarmy675 2 years ago
The whole point of Dedicated Servers is to be customized if it be a map game mode or JUST EVERYTHING THAT PC GAMING IS ABOUT!
sargentnoob 2 years ago
It is a huge change to not have dedicated servers. IW is trying to shut out the PC community because they realize that is somewhat a dieing breed and they just want to make money. I have played COD4, 5, and 6 on PC, PS3, and the 360. If you started on console and are use to not being able to choose the exact server you want, it doesn't seem like a big deal. But if you go the extra mile to do so (buy/ build a PC) and something like MW2 comes out, that company took a giant shit on your face.
phgHunter 2 years ago
dedicated servers could be fun. but i really dont give a shit about is there dedicated servers or not... its a great game and those who boycott mw2 are just immature or ignorent..
CossuMaister 2 years ago
Wtf you talking about you dickhead?
PC gamers were robbed with this game, its a lazy effort at a price which is way too high.
And the correct spelling is ignorant dummy!
phellymckerr 2 years ago
what you say you little shit
ELCRAZYGAMER1992 2 years ago
im just saying that itsw a great game but there are no dedicated servers. and i dont care if they rob us from our money with the game if they managed to make a super great game even if they were lazy im sorry but thats my oppinion
CossuMaister 2 years ago
@CossuMaister " dedicated servers could be fun. but i really dont give a shit about is there dedicated servers or not... its a great game and those who boycott mw2 are just immature or ignorent.."I Wouldent say Ignorant and or inmature Theay are just protecting there assets.I mean Cmon I spent $800+ on my computer and oh yeah xbox 360 maybee $500 Yeah I really think SO servers Is Nothing To big to ask For.The game is really kinda expensive too Forreal ppl.
stryk3rr3al 1 year ago
(being from the UK I can't comment on Gamestop)
I agree with you that the MW2 PC boycott is stupid. But Infinity Ward has made a very flawed system, one such flaw is that because a match gets hosted on a persons computer you can actually get viruses and trojans from them through the IWNET system. Another is because not everyone has the best internet sometimes you get games that a really laggy, because this person doesn't have the connection to support all of these people who want to play.
Okay98 2 years ago
(continued) And the final 2 points I will put are you can't make any custom matches - halo 3 is an exception because Bungie did the matchmaking system well - MW2 you are really limited as to what you can do since you can only choose the presets. And finally (although not really relevant to the game) all the consoles had special editions of the game, whilst the pc had none. I know that's not really a factor, but it is unfair.
Okay98 2 years ago
nerd
RStrGuy13 2 years ago
Yes I am. Thanks for noticing.
gamingeagle19 2 years ago
LMFAO dont you care?
RStrGuy13 2 years ago
no, I am a nerd.
gamingeagle19 2 years ago
@gamingeagle19 lol me too!
Agravain3 2 years ago
I agree with your defense of Gamestop, but I have to say that going into how they buy hundreds of games a day doesn't help your argument.
quilesboy 2 years ago
yes it does. Do you actually think they have time to test every single game they get in.
gamingeagle19 2 years ago
That's true, I suppose.
quilesboy 2 years ago
Equal on all platforms is a terrible argument, why not use the strengths of the platform?
BlobgiDude 2 years ago
don't ask me ask IW. It's there argument not mine.
gamingeagle19 2 years ago
super cool story bro
TrollKing2009 2 years ago
i boycott any game that comes out a year after its previous release
thisisbigf22 2 years ago
I listened to you, but it DOES lag. I played COD4 on my 360 and PS3 and they both lagged something awful. Plus, auto aim is for console noobs.
LXQUICKJUSTICE 2 years ago
The "boycott" (its a peition) is nothing more than an organized declaration that many players will not buy the game if it does or does not contain certain features deemed crucial to the signatories enjoyment of the game. How does that not make sense? What's the alternative? To buy the game even though they think they aren't going to have much fun playing it? Do you go through life forcing yourself to buy things you think you might not get much out of because you don't want to "boycott?"
TheTypicalGirl 2 years ago
"They just wanted to make all platforms equal."
Not all platforms are equal. PC's have strenghts that consoles likely never will. Enforcing equality where there isn't is childish.
TheTypicalGirl 2 years ago
Also, console gamers usually play a game for a little while, then switch over to a new game, over and over again. PC Gamers will play the same game for years. I still play the original Starcraft and it's been around over 10 years...it's a sport in Asia. And PC Gamers will often spend a lot of money on their rigs, so buying a new game every other month hurts a little more. That's another reason why we're complaining about the $60 price tag.
ilikepigtails 2 years ago
Ugh, you really have to play PC to understand why we're upset. It's not just about customization. Dedicated servers are business class servers that are DEDICATED toward hosting the game. Our ping is almost nothing. Without them, we have to rely on Peer-to-peer which is wayyyy slower. One jackass running an anti-virus program can lag the entire game. Plus, the host has 0 ping so it ruins competitive game play.
ilikepigtails 2 years ago
Wow, that was idiotic. Most gamers are 15 and up.
gamingeagle19 2 years ago
15, 16, 17 isn't adult... some don't even classify 18 as being a true adult. anyway, when I hear "these adults" talking why do they all sound like little girls? I would think a dude's voice would be low by 15 don't you? So there is a puberty crisis on the rise!? lol. You know nothing of competitive play. Pc gaming invented it. It invented most of the games you play today. It set the standards, the rules, all of it. Console=casual. Devs know it, thats why console games r easy.
thenastyn 2 years ago
Not to contradict myself either. My reference to PC gaming setting the standard... online play, graphics, etc. You look at cod4 for instance, it is kind of a nooby game, fun but nooby. Competitive gameplay had to be modded for balance.
thenastyn 2 years ago
Playing FPS games on consoles are for babies. Period... If there ever was a crossover on an FPS game between PC and Xbox Live or even your PS3 homies, console lovers will get raped...
SimplyCarLo 2 years ago
babies? Well first, it's the same game on any platform, and two if the console shooters are for babies why is it that ALL of the professional Halo 3, and COD players are all console players. When't the last time you saw a professional gamer that only played on PC. you fail.
gamingeagle19 2 years ago
"When't the last time you saw a professional gamer that only played on PC"
I am a PC gamer and i really dont care for pro gamers.
The fact is that the "standardization" is not justified its not improving multi gameplay its getting worse now we are stuck on a standard of the console which is just awful compared to PC. Whats next, judging on the situation, in a few years they will go on a "standard" of a gameboy. Would you like the fact that your console is degraded to that level, dont think so.
PanterausfG 2 years ago
You are right dude, dedicated servers isn't such a bad thing and quite honestly I am GLAD they didn't give dedicated servers, that takes away allot of hackers and hacking abilities. I've been playing fps games since team fortress and I am so glad that we finally have a good fps without cheaters getting away with bullshit. Good review. If you want add me on the PS3 network: SK-Dubrok
SKDrok 2 years ago
no dedicated servers, no lean, 18 max players on a server, no kick or ban options.. high price for a boned up prettier and slightly improved version of the previous game.. etc.. IF ALL THESE THINGS ARE TRUE, then we should boycott.. they didnt learn what we like even after the unreal tournament 3 situation, shame
chizzy555 2 years ago 3
as a pc gamer, I am planning of buying the game tomorrow, I understand your arguments about dedicated servers and matchmaking. I really dont care about dedicated servers, what really pissed me off was the 10 dollar price up for pc, and that they canceled the ability to lean. Leaning is very important for us pc gamers, it can make a really huge difference. I just hope that future patches will enable leaning for the pc. I enjoyed modern warfare and halo 3's match making system.
spartan1081990 2 years ago
Follow up on this console guys, pc guys also...
from bashandslash. MW2 is a mixture of PC mods turned into a console port. IW takes from the community and then takes a dump on us. Wonder what the next cod from iw is gonna be like since they won't have modders.
ac130 taken from cod4xtreme mod bashandslash search it.
thenastyn 2 years ago
I'd post a link but not allowed. go to bashandslash latest news ac130.
thenastyn 2 years ago
If I start seeing $60 for PC games as common place, well I'm not going to be upgrading my video card next time. I'll just buy the game for my console. This all leads to the death of GPU makers Nvidia and ATi.
VisionQuest2012 2 years ago
you are so stupid eagle. You know nothing about pc gaming.1 when you play on pc servers you can have more than 16 players in a vs match. 2 better graphics 3 mods ( character and map mods) so pc is way better. n yeah i use to be a console gamer until they (xbox 360 and ps3) died on me. So i have no heating issues enjoy better graphics mods n i have more fun the thing with the boycott that you don't fucking understand is that they want to jack up the prices and make it like consoles.
MrNightwings74 2 years ago
well better graphics is subjective but I know about everything else. I'm pretty sure I talked about that in the video.
gamingeagle19 2 years ago
And on a side note, yes the Left 4 Dead 2 boycott was kind of silly, though I don't completely disagree with their sentiment. I think the reason for it wasn't so much that they were mad about the features (or lack of) in the game so much as they were shocked and upset by such an uncharacteristic move by Valve - launching a sequel less than a year after the original, rather than supporting the original with lots free DLC like they have with almost every other major release of theirs.
Starwind87 2 years ago
It's not so much a boycott as it is just everyone just not buying it now. Everything they're doing is a downgrade to how things currently work on the PC.
They're console-izing the PC version of the game - they even took out the ability to lean around corners for God's sake. While the lack of dedi servers (and the communities around them), p2p connection, and etc doesn't seem like a big deal to you... Those things are staples of PC gaming. They're WHY we play on a PC instead of a console.
Starwind87 2 years ago
Key points in your argument that the boycott is stupid: "It doesn't lag THAT MUCH...", "It's just not AS customisable".
The range of PC's and internet connections being used to play the game means that a server can come with such a mixed bag that the game can become un-playable due such high pings and immense lag.
Spend a few months playing COD4-multi on PC then go back to your chosen console and tell me you don't see a noticeable difference.
terrancemuffin 2 years ago
well I would but I don't have a gaming PC besides I can already tell you that the lag would be about the same on both. I rarely had any laggy games at all. and you can't even play online with less than 10 megs so that argument is mute.
gamingeagle19 2 years ago
That's the point. You can't play online with less than 10megs (i really didn't know that, that sucks) using matchmaking style multiplayer systems whereas many people playing the PC version have far below that because of various limitations such as distance from exchange, etc.
PC gamers don't want this new multiplayer system because the people with decent rigs and connections would suffer greatly at the hands of someone with the total opposite but who is hosting the game.
terrancemuffin 2 years ago
You got some good points gamingeagle19, but I feel like your trying to make us PC Gamer sympathize IW or Activision. You are right, we can stick with other games rather than complain.
But your point about playing the single player instead of the multiplayer if we are discontent about the multiplayer, does not make sense to me. You want us to pay $60 for a single player game? Oh, you should suggest that we illegally download it and just play the single player instead of paying $60. Good stuff!
ethnix2471 2 years ago
stfu
sweetlu45 2 years ago
very productive.
gamingeagle19 2 years ago
oh hai i cant wait for MW2 and the IMOD clan returns in 6 days
styx102 2 years ago
why u guys dont wanna get it ? a perfect PC-COD4 almost coasted them 70% cuts out of Consoles profits .. just google sales of COD4 .
and yes Activison aiming for Rockstar sales this year (a 60$ game + 60$ DLCs) .. i am sry but money talks !
V0V0o 2 years ago
mw2 is modded pc version of cod4 nothing more
scklan 2 years ago
Why don't CONSOLE TROLLS piss off kk thx
kazalack 2 years ago
You guys shouldnt boycott your going to get kick out of the place by the cop`s just say what you think to infinity ward im getting it for the ps3 but i love the mod`s for the pc version is really not fair why punish pc player`s like that i think there doing it because the last one`s were downloaded illigally if they dont put the server`s well live whyt it is not the end of the world of buy a ps3 or 360 or make a mod for cod4 that has everything that mw2 has
HEERODAVIDYUI 2 years ago
Like I tell console gamers.
Taking out dedicated servers off of Pc fps online is like taking Matchmaking off of the console version.
Prygst 2 years ago
I agree:
Imagine NO custom content of any kind (paid-for or not)
Imagine being at the mercy of someone playing on <1meg internet (Could you stand only their shots registering properly and regularly)
Imagine never being able to connect with friends and enjoy a multiplayer game of more than 18 players
Now you will be close to how PC gamers feel about losing Dedicated servers, etc.
terrancemuffin 2 years ago
If your not a pc gamer you wont understand. I could go into details about why it's going to suck, but I'm pretty sure the comment limit would be reached. It's obvious to any pc gamer that this is a complete joke. I wont support console schemes and either should you.
ignorant13 2 years ago
A lot of PC guys don't just play and pay for PC gaming because of the graphics; we play for the PC experience.
BF2 is an amazing game. To say it has been going strong since its release without giving credit to mods is just plain not understanding the impact of mods.
I'd love to play MW2, but $60 (a precedent), no ded. servers (lag among MANY other issues), no credit to modders, and DLC are like a brick wall. I won't enjoy playing the game no matter how hard I try.
Cliffe4567 2 years ago
I'm a pc user . One of the only reasons people bought the pc version is cause we love the mods such as infection and how we can choose what map and how many people etc. I am part of the boycott and 190,000 people have signed the petition against infinity ward. Many people are seriously pissed off. They are ruining the pc version for us
CallOfDutySnipez 2 years ago
Ok, I'm a pc gamer and I am very active with this issue with IW. Let me explain: No dedicated servers takes away tons of money from server based companies. No DS means no great mods. Like the infamous zombie mod for CODMW. No DS means shorter game life. No DS means smaller player count 8 vs 8 when we are use to 20 vs 20. Ever wonder why on consoles fps games die after just 5 months? Its becuz no one is adding their own content. Developer content not enuff to keep u from leaving & u get charged.
zlyvex 2 years ago
Halo 3 has been popular for over 2 years. People still play the first one. Killzone 2 is still popular, L4D2, and many others. Also MW2 supports 18 people online so it's actually a step up for us. I understand your point but console online works very well.
gamingeagle19 2 years ago
How about competetive gaming? How about training for matches ?
How about creating server that has rules like no martydom, no noobtoob and no bunnnyhopping. This might sound silly and picky to some people, but thats how some people like it. That was a no.1 reason why our server was full all the time, because we had those rules. So now we cant kick or possibly ban players who break server rules. Custom maps and mods make the game last longer. Control of my gaming experience, thats all.
4it0r 2 years ago
Killzone 2 and Left 4 Dead are new games. People still play Halo becuz it makes console gamers feel like they have great aim by making it widely accessible to casual gamers through massive aim assist. The only way u can really understand is by experiencing our life. Take for instance, Shadow of Chernobyl pc our own people made a mod called Stalker Complete that adds HDR and sleeping bags and better aim and much much more. If u were to play this game b4 & after the mod u will understand more.
zlyvex 2 years ago
I was just making a point that console games don't have a "5 month" lifespan. You don't have to get all technical on me. But regardless, game value and life isn't determined by how many mods come out. It's determined by the content the game comes with. That's how I see it.
gamingeagle19 2 years ago
Well, that is in ur world. For pc mods do determine the lifespan of a game. Are u aware that w/o the mods from pc u will have no Counterstrike. Mods made Counterstrike. Lastly, we pc gamers play games that are 10-15 years old sometimes older in masses. We keep those games fresh by constantly improving the play of the game and graphics. HDR -High Dynamic Range.
zlyvex 2 years ago
"Mods made Counterstrike"
that's precisely my point though. The game itself was weak so you needed mods to keep it going. If a game is strong enough it can keep going for years.
gamingeagle19 2 years ago
No dude u don't understand. Modders actually made the game as in created it. Valve bought the rights to it and now we have CounterStrike Source. Btw, Counterstrike may suck on consoles but it is the best FPS ever created on the pc. If u logged on pc today u will find more servers running on it than most modern games. Just so u know, Counterstrike is like the god of fps pc gaming for pc gamers. I'm sure u made alot of pc gamers gasp when u said it is weak. Lol.
zlyvex 2 years ago
I guess I just misunderstood. I didn't know it was originally a mod.
as for COD I've never heard IW say that they created the perks. People just assumed they did.
gamingeagle19 2 years ago
Another thing is u know all those great weapon perks that come standard with CODMW? Those were created by mods that think out of the box. Infinity is now acting like they came up with all these great ideas when in fact they got it from pc gamer mods. Then they repay us by shutting us down AFTER ripping all of our great work and taking all the credit. Pathetic.
zlyvex 2 years ago
Also, the game may "allow" 9 vs 9 but the majority of time u will not see this. Not without huge amounts of lag that is for sure. My question for u is have u played Halo 2 when they had the dedicated servers up when the game was first introduced? Becuz if u did u will be pissed at how much better that game played b4 they dropped those servers. Probably a good thing u haven't. Once u get use to DS u can never go backwards to P2P.
zlyvex 2 years ago
no I did not. The first time I got online was a couple of years ago. and you are probably right with the whole not going back thing but it can still be fun. For example, I had a standard tv for over a year when I got the 360. It was fine for me because the graphics were still great. When I got HD it got much better and now going back to standard is very different. But I can still do it because I know it's just a temporary thing.
gamingeagle19 2 years ago
Never got into COD that much, its just too much of an arcade shooter...Try Operation Flashpoint for a more realistic gaming experience.
macgyver341 2 years ago
id rather play a really fun arcade shooter than a mediocre realistic shooter.
gamingeagle19 2 years ago
Dude , you said it , you will have the same multiplayer experience you always have had on your xbox. Us PC'ers cannot say the same , so please dont say this boycott is stupid. What if they changed your multiplayer on the xbox dramatically ,, would you bitch then ??? i think so. Think before you post a video next time please.
viporpa 2 years ago
I think people are annoyed cause they get like 15 bucks in trade in credit for a game that they'll turn around and sell for 55... 5 dollars less than new... I could see if they made say 25-30% but they make a shit load more than that more like 70%
xxxvulturexxx 2 years ago
that gamestop opening games shit is bullshit... cause honestly they could use them or they could be returns that are just in new condition... you don't go to video stores and buy new ( opened ) movies!!! nevertheless they also put damn stickers on the cases which... ya I'm not buying that. They do it because of LP reasons well get some real cases on the games etc and stock them like every other place. ( or just buy a damn nice printer and make fakes with empty cases I mean how hard is that...
xxxvulturexxx 2 years ago
(cont'd)
that's not a good path for this industry.
MW2 is now the biggest boycott in the history of gaming (over 100,000 boycotters), and though it will not stop MW2 from selling millions, it is sending Activision and IW a message that this is a big issue. That's the purpose of a boycott, to send messages and to force devs and publishers to respond.
Anywho, that's my two cents on this.
solidkwon 2 years ago
(cont'd)
There are many many benefits to developing on the PC platform and that's why PC gamers are given privileges such as dedicated servers, mods, clan support, custom maps, level editors, developer tools, etc. For a developer like IW, which started out as a PC dev mind you to ignore all this is pure wrong.
The reason is simple tho and that's the fact that Activision wants to charge for DLC. By disabling mod support, users can no longer produce free dlc. That's the issue here n if u ask me
solidkwon 2 years ago
With a game as big as MW2, the issue shouldn't be seen as "oh, guys, it's just one game." No, what we're afraid is that this might be the beginning of a new trend. If that's the case, then MW2 PC version MUST absolutely be boycotted.
Unlike consoles, there's absolutely no licensing fees to worry about on the PC platform (which is why pc games for $50 and cheaper), and user base helps run the games, which cuts down maintenance costs by a LOT.
solidkwon 2 years ago
We understand you console guys are used to what you have but us Pc guys pay thousands for systems because we can do mind blowing stuff with games. We would just buy a console if there was a comparison but consoles and pcs dont compare. we had a new zark rifle commissioned for ut2004, when we get a game its life expectancy is maybe a decade because we keep reinventing it with mod tools ,we even still play the original ut , when we saw mw2 we thought omg, the stuff we can do with this game :(
EZEToiger 2 years ago 2
I understand but it's just for one game and I'm sure you can have plenty of fun with MW2. Now unless this whole "no dedicated servers" deal becomes a regular thing I would just live with it.
gamingeagle19 2 years ago
right, pc games have have amazingly long lifespan.
Go back to CoD1 and guess what, you can play with modern weapons in that game, and some servers have a user-created perks system, a system which I personally prefer over the CoD4 perks system.
Console games can't come close to that brilliance and that's one of the major issues with this whole deal.
solidkwon 2 years ago
What's a boycott?
danielswanepoel 2 years ago
I say lets burn Valve, Activision and Infinity Ward to the ground. L4D2 is a full game that they are releasing after last years full price BETA. And now IW is stabbing the ones who made them what they are today, in the back. All these developers needs some setting straight.
jawehawk 2 years ago
no disrespect but PC gamers didn't make IW. Most of their games sold on consoles namely the 360. And the price for console games are higher.
gamingeagle19 2 years ago
IW are the makers of some of the first Call of Duty games, and those were exclusive to the PC. Ergo the PC community is what made the CoD series so popular. The series didn't start at CoD4 you know. Anyway the main point is, that developers should never bite the hands of the consumers, because ultimately the consumers are the reason they exist. I've owned every single CoD game, and though im not the biggest fan ever, I think the games are solid. This just shows IW only cares about money.
jawehawk 2 years ago
I'm aware that the first couple of COD's were on PC but they were ported to the consoles where they sold very very well. And I don't see how getting rid of dedicated servers gets them more money. If anything it hurts them.
gamingeagle19 2 years ago
the very first Call of Duty and it's expansion *united assault* were only for PC. Call of Duty 2 were for the Xbox, and PC.
jawehawk 2 years ago
and if I remembered right, they alwasy sold more on the console versions than the PC. Not to mention the console games cost more.
gamingeagle19 2 years ago
The buttom line is, that this is a real BS move by Infinity Ward. End of discussion.
jawehawk 2 years ago
PRE-ORDER CANCELLED !!
BOYCOTT MW2 !!
buopesado 2 years ago
This is Infinity Wards way of showing they're greedy assholes. Without dedicated servers and no mod support, they CAN sell pc gamers whatever they want (such as maps, and other additions), on Cod4 there's and unlimited array of options for maps, weapons, and other mods.
boeatsbrains 2 years ago
its about time someone got to the gamestop part of the video. I thought all hope was lost. and thanks for the compliment.
gamingeagle19 2 years ago
Shut up u fatty nerd! MW2 is Asome! so go fuck ur imaginary wife!
lordsilverdark7 2 years ago
you seriously have a hearing problem. I never said MW2 was going to suck moron. Leave now troll.
gamingeagle19 2 years ago
nice point of view man ..BOYCOTT SUCKS!.. IW woked there heart and soul for this game and it shows...go and buy ur noob ass games...n boycott this haaha
subd9986 2 years ago
stop bitching
GrifTheLazy12 2 years ago
We dont care what ,you think we wont buy it because it does not fit with our community
EZEToiger 2 years ago
We are a clan,we like our own servers,someone swears we kick them,we can password or public,our servers are moderated, its our community , our home, our individuality ,its not the price of the game, we would probably pay extra if we had dedicated servers. no dedicated servers = no clan or community+ we put our servers local to where we live. whats not to understand ?
EZEToiger 2 years ago
MWF2 BoyCott = FAGS
Out of 15+ Million users 150,000 FAKE AUTO SIGNED SIGNATURES CAN GO @#$@ THEMSELVES
smrtsTV 2 years ago
Doors ----> way, in your own time Fuck off, console tw@ boy.
Puzzoozoo 2 years ago
ppl shut up... this guy is stupid! just cuz u guys r getting a little less than wat used to u r all crying... and u ppl don't know the whole story.... MW2 switched cuz of hacks!! the hacks that ppl put in the game was outrageous and it was so easy to do!! with the new server they won't b able to do that anymore... and console games never got wat u guys had ( PC gamers ) so now u guys hav exactly wat consoles hav... so boo hoo for u!
1414012 2 years ago
let me put it to you this way. Lets say MW3 comes out and says to console gamers, instead of having the multiplayer you've had for years, you are only allowed to play with the people in your neighborhood online and you can only choose from 2 matches what would you do?
gamingeagle19 2 years ago
Sorry for saying this PC gamers but even with that change i think it's too extreme to be promoting a boycott: eventually you'll realize its your loss on missing out such a great game... do your little "boo hoo" boycott, that wont keep the game from being released and 1000's of gamers STILL buying it! Peace. PS i'm a PC gamer also.
AyKKonTF 2 years ago
Hackers and server nazis are what made go to console. It's a better game on PC, but I just didn't find it worth the annoyance of little arseholes dictating and booting as the feel like it.
No sympathy from me. It's the PC users own fault. Now PC gamers have to take it up the arse like the rest of us. Karma.
BonesTheCat 2 years ago
They can't take it in right away, it's just too fast too crazy and no1 likes to think that some1 can play better than them. So, what do they do? They call hacker. it isn't just one game. If we buy this it will continue to get worse for us with more and more games.
Anyway we come from different worlds, you guys have your multiplayer, we have ours.
Also console gamers should show a little respect for PC gamers. Without us your consoles wouldn't exist. Cod def would not exist.
thenastyn 2 years ago
Iw's reasoning is absurd. what PC gamers were giving them this feedback? Console gamers trying out the PC version? I mean it had to be. a server browser is easy to use. Looking at ping is easy. We don't need cell phone bars. Hackers? they exist, everywhere. I wouldn't be surprised though if many of these suspected hackers were just good players. First time a console guy hops into a PC fps.. its a crazy mess.
thenastyn 2 years ago
You guys (console) don't get where we are coming from cause most of you have never experienced it. We shouldn't be getting any flak from any of you, the PC version doesn't matter to you, so why do you care?
thenastyn 2 years ago
You need to understand that we (meaning PC gamers) come from a very different community. What works for you doesn't work for us... dedicated servers are a standard and have been. IW is and has(from what I have seen) wants to kill the community. Competition on private servers will not be fair.
thenastyn 2 years ago
Ofcourse running a server from your home connection is still crap.
And that pretty much sums it all up. Gamers that are used to playing a game, modified, with ultra low ping, are boycotting because they will not be able to do so anymore, in MW2.
R4zor1911 2 years ago
with much "clearer" graphics, wider view on the screen, better report rate from and to the server, higher upload packets and lots of other stuff ... Making much easier to spot the target, shoot more accurately, have much more fluid gameplay etc. Which, I personally think, completely destroys the spirit of the game. And this new multiplayer will eliminate that. Making the game more fair and enjoyable for all players. And that is why I'm against this boycott.
R4zor1911 2 years ago
But ofcourse not everyone is Pro Gamer. And that why this new multiplayer is actually a good thing. Because now, anyone can mod their own game using config. files . And even on a same server. Two players are actually playing two completely different games. "Regular" player is playing @ default. Lets say aorund 100fps normal graphics etc ... While the other player can completely modify his game. And have 999fps, modified graphics, field of view etc ... And by that having an unfair advantage ....
R4zor1911 2 years ago
Two exactly the same "skill level" players. One with lets say 20 ping, other with 60 ping . The with 60 literally wouldn't stand a chance. And with an average home connection, players wouldn't be any less then 100 ping. ( but probably higher ). Then we have that high level of customization . Which is also crucial for competitive community. And actually its based upon it. On "mods" like ProMod ... etc. And that is why the whole competitive community is worried .
R4zor1911 2 years ago
About Modern Warfare 2 PC, dedicated server stuff ...
The whole competitive community is based on dedicated servers and customizations. 1st. Dedicated servers are not running from your home connection. They are "server boxes" basically directly attached to 100Mb up/down node. So you can have match with up to 64 players for example, all having 20 or less ping. Which impossible with a server running on your home connection. And having that small ping is crucial for competitive and fast gameplay.
R4zor1911 2 years ago
I think this boycott is pretty assanine and I agree with you. I know people want dedicated servers but I saw a GT thread the other day about how this guy talked about how infinity ward seems like their exclusively making MW2 for The xbox When it is a multiplatform game. I thought he was a fanboy be had a good point. This reminds about an EBC episode where they were talking about how some Devs make'em for mainly one console but they put the games on all of systems.
HalfBloodRage 2 years ago
Boycotting is just a way for PC gamers to justify their pirating ways...
wiedzzz 2 years ago
hmmm. 3 stars and two votes. which means somebody voted 1 star but didn't comment. Troll much?
gamingeagle19 2 years ago