Hitler, Mussolini and Franco (Oct 1940)

[musaumm]

I wish that hardinemonarchist, the above commentator were a Jew during Hitler's regime.

[notaire2]

Hitler and Mussolini failed to urge Franco to join the axis. 

[divisionmagus]

VIVE IL DUCE,,,,THANK YOU FOR THIS INSPIRATIONAL..VIDEO....IL DUCE SHOULD HAVE AVOIDED WAR...AFTER HIS...CONQUEST OF ALBANIA...IF HE HAD HE WOULD BE AS LOVED TODAY...AS HE WAS WHEN....HE...RULED ITALY.....NO ONE CAN DENY IL DUCE WAS LOVED....

[alberto2287]

Does anyone know the name of the music in the Soundtrack?

[jameskeenan2]

are you serious?? if the axis won the war then everyone outside germany would be slaves or in concentration camps.

[Tadus2306]

@jameskeenan2

Not true

[21Blitz]

Seeing Hitler smile on the train, makes me think when i saw a Bio on him, they were interviewing some of the men who were with Hitler, and they allways said your heart would sink to your pants, cuz you never knew how he would act. That must of sucked, cuz u never knew what to say was right.

[goodbyelonglive44]

Hitler...such a lucky man..he was not only born in one of the best country in the world, but also lived in one of the instensive time of history...

[EnriqueGallofa]

que bueno saber que estos tres mierdas estan muertos, ojala hubieran puesto una potentisima bomba en el tren que viajaban esas basuras

[Rico8458]

yes, thanks for informing me of this truth.  they say usa was a zionist state. jews everywhere in government?

[FraChief]

DUCE A NOI!!!

Long live Fascism

[Arqera]

Liebe Fascismus!!!!!

[Rico8458]

usa supose to fight commuist back then because they ended up fighting stalin during the cold war, we fought stalin in korea, and in vietnam too.

[IustitiaPax]

@Rico8458 You realize that entire Secretariate of State (Foreign Affairs) of USA was Communist-infiltrated. Morgenthau Jr. was a friend of Litvinov (Soviet ambassador). Long before Dec 14, 1941, from APril 1941, the USA delivered military goods to USSR (trucks, ammo, weapons) under Lend-Lease Agreement. USA and UK fought indirectly or directly for the cause of Communism. At the UK lost its empire as divine retribution for its British war mongering in Central Europe!

[Rico8458]

if Franco would have join all the way, things would have been very different indeed. you see franco owed everything to the germans without which he would have lost his war.

[johnmalory26]

The problem was that Hitler made the same mistake as Napoleon.

[Arkethot]

@Rico8458

I think Franco was afraid of the Allies invading Spain from Gibralatar, and, apparently, Franco was demanding some parts of Africa Hitler didn't agree with.

[Tadus2306]

@Rico8458

Well I wish the situation in Spain was better before the war started so that Spain could have joined with Germany. But by the end of the Spanish civil war about 2 million Spaniards were dead, they were out of food and their oil came from the US and Britian. So if he would have sided with the germans his people might have starved and had no oil. So really I think he did what was best for his nation.

I still wish he would have joined the Germans, It was just bad timing.

[hardlinemonarchist]

I wish that the axis powers whould have won world war 2, and the world whould not be all fucked up.

[BrosefMengegay]

@hardlinemonarchist yes because placing the world under the rule of a megalomaniacal idiot, a nationalistic, self-absorbed fool, and one of the most regressive governments that ever has been or will be is a great idea

you fucking idiot

[duartesilvaaa]

@hardlinemonarchist shut the fuck off, if that appened my country portugal would be spanish, no one whants that

[IustitiaPax]

@duartesilvaaa Portugal Spanish? Of course not. Remember the Iberian Pact. President De Oliveira Salazar and General Francisco Franco were friends and allies in feact. So you are erring greatly.

[duartesilvaaa]

@IustitiaPax portugal was a target to be invaded by the axis, if it wasn´t for italy attack to grece portugal was invaded by spain. (Felix Operation)

[IustitiaPax]

@duartesilvaaa Operation Felix was not serious at all. All kinds of concepts existed at the time. Like Holland invading Belgium in the 1930s. But unrealistic. But military strategists all prepare such plans in advance. Portugal was an anticommunist ally of nationalist Spain under Franco. You should not believe anti-Spanish propaganda.

[duartesilvaaa]

@hardlinemonarchist I wish for Germany to save Europe from depression by starting world war 3 and being defeated by numbers.

[Peter43John]

@hardlinemonarchist Dude, you have lost your mind! I am German AND Italian and would love to date a Japanese girl-but the Axis Powers winning WWII would have been a Catastophe!!: not 1 Jew alive in Europe today and NO self determination for the peoples of eastern europe! I do wish the Japanese had won in the Pacific however; then we would not have all this made in China shit in the U.S. like we do today!!!

[majajh]

I'm sure you're fine with Satan in power. 

[DavidVolfan]

Viva Il Duce and Viva La Falange!!

[Antomolis]

Amigos Espagnol ringraziate Benito por l aiuto,porche la Paella e buena mentre il cuscus e mierda..........

[strategosathena]

so many followers..and after they betrayded

him....usa mafia and re were stronge?

[ss90ss444]

Franco should have helped Hitler and Mussolini more. 50 000 volunteers was good and Blue Division one of the best but not enough.

[LarryScottBB]

I tre migliori statisti del XX secolo

[aannnanimefan]

yes. Hitler bombed a Spanish city. Picasso drawing as the gernica (criticism). sorry my english is bad

[soldiers250]

España no tenía recursos ni dinero para poder entrar en la segunda guerra mundial.

[aannnanimefan]

Spain in 1940, was destroyed after the Spanish civil war. Spain was unable to fight in World War II. thank god. Spain is democratic at this time, but some people have thought fascist

[amoremiotornadame]

españa unica y grande

w españa

[Tadus2306]

@aannnanimefan

Yeah its good that they were spared ww2

But Franco gave Spain 40 years of peace, with very little crime.

Now that it is a democracy it is filled with drugs rapes and murders Just like all of the other democracies.

But oh well.

[dieantischeisse]

@Tadus2306 . i agree with you. My country Portugal was also ruled by the fascism. Salazar kept portugal out of world war 2 by making hard negotiaons between england and nazi germany and keeping neutral. But after 40 years Salazar died and portugal was taken by the communists and we lost our colonies and everything. now we live in as you say in a democracy full of shit. I think if we and the spanish had joined germany and won ww2, maybe our world wouldn't be full of so much shit. Adios amigo!!

[FrancoDan21]

@dieantischeisse What portugal needed to do is return to the fatherland Spain

[dieantischeisse]

@FrancoDan21. You asshole. Portugal never belonged to Spain and it wont, as long as i'm alive. Franco didnt have a huge colonial imperial and a war to deal with. And salazar like hitler didnt have to make a huge war to achieve power. Whereas franco, you know.

[FrancoDan21]

@dieantischeisse What portugal needed to do is return to the fatherland Spain Salazar was nothing compared to Franco

[wotanskult]

Great video, inedit images.

[bowenka]

Woow! The dream team of shit!!!

[camaroman87]

heil hitler franco is a douche

[rockwilderyrammstein]

tres gays en el tren, seria muy generoso, hasta se ofenderia al decir eso ala comunidad gay jejeje, mas bien tres judios herrantes buskando como ganar poderia mejor huvieran hecho un video de ellos juntos en la cama y lo huvieran subido a youtube jajajaja talves asi hubieran ganado mucha mas reputacion!!!

[pipinho109]

DAN ASCO LOS TRES DEL VIDEO

[NaziEliteGuard]

did you know that Winston Churchill did have an Insomnia???

It started when Hitler rose to power...

[3rb0ssd4k4pit4l3]

D V X R E X D V X  L EX

[powerdriller10]

83wss:

Spain did right not following Hitler. You understimate the potentials of the USA, I guess the american used in WWII less than 20% of the military and industrial capability they could exercise. Besides, the allied counted with resource reserves in Australia, Canada, China, India,Latin America and Africa that were not used.

And the big bomb was underway.

China was not well organized to oppose the japs because Chiang-Kai-Shek was too corrupt and Mao lacked resources.

[forgetititititit]

Schauerhaft, die beiden Heinis jetzt vorgeführt zu bekommen.

[SNiPeRLu]

bien , franco llegando tarde xD

[KingCreole74]

I will admit this has nothing to do with anything, but Hitler really was a rather unattractive man.

[Reindrich]

To bad Spain never fought.

[ProyectoImperial]

Blue Division?

[Reindrich]

That were only volunteers

[ProyectoImperial]

Yes, of corse.

What is your opinion about them?

[andrerockmetal]

trio di figli di puttana

SONS OF BITCH

[elxaxixo]

mierdas sekas que reyne la anarquia

[SelfDampening]

"I will not pretend that if I had to choose between Communism and Nazism, I would choose Communism." - Winston Churchill, 1937

"An extraordinary man." - neutral Spain's Franco describing Hitler to the Portuguese ambassador

"...now Germany is against the power of evil incarnated in the Anglo-Saxon/Soviet coalition managed by the Jews." - neutral Spain's Luis Blanco writing to Franco with his assessment of Germany's situation right after the USA joined atheist communist Russia in WWII

[grengerx]

The dog Winston Churchill servant to the Jews

[NationalistComrade]

No surprise to me that Churchill said that, the UK has been Zionist for so long.

[angeles37]

Hitler-Franco-Mussolini:Demons­

[italiacboy]

viva mussolini!...saluts from italy!

[cgulkan]

EU started right there and then.

[gvnldr]

Proprio un bel trio di figli di puttana.

[xambursi]

Jo seré el que seré però tu ets un maleducat. T'acompanyo en el sentiment. Adéu.

[cabezamelon92]

putos catalanistas separatistas

si estuviera franco vivo os ibais a cagar

[xambursi]

What a threasome of son of bitch.

[sebreathnach]

The threesome is really a foursome if you put the Pope on the chessboard... He always seems to go missing at the failure of every war....Put him back where he belongs... at the Mexican/Franco start of WW1 and 11.. and Korea, Vietnam, East Timore, Iraq, Afghan....

[xambursi]

Quin trio de fills de puta.

[ViRus1N]

Viva alemania viva españa viva italiaa

SIEG HEIL

[Clausewitzz]

At least Spain and ofcourse Franco accepted the fact they were not ready for war.

Unlike Mussolini who ignored those facts from his people and all his operations failed and saved by Germany.

Troughout the war Italy became more a burden then an ally to Germany, the worst act of Italy in the war was attacking Greece, not becaus they failed so badly in it but becaus it delayed Germany's invasion of Russia with 6 weeks.

Im sure none knew at the time how vital the 6 weeks would be that year.

[XXXFashionable91XXX]

@Clausewitzz In fact I believe that Mussolini should't have accepted the alliance with Hitler!

[67claudius]

@Clausewitzz Franco's Spain had just emerged from a devastating civil war and was not willing to go to war . The fact remains that Hitler made a huge mistake of underestimating the Soviet military capabilities.

[Clausewitzz]

@67claudius

He underestimated the Soviet strenght on the long term yes, on the short term however the Soviet state came close to total collapse.

Many of the great generals of those days believe the biggest mistake was Hitler's choice to go for Kiev first instead of Moscow.

However that switch woundt have mattered if it wasnt for the lost time thanks to Italy's sudden invasion of Greece.

[67claudius]

@Clausewitzz I don't argue that the Italian invasion of Greece forced Nazi Germany to intervene in support of Italy and the delayed Operation Barbarossa. but the strategic errors of underestimation of Hitler about his Soviet adversary were the main responsible for the defeat of Germany on the Eastern Front. I have serious doubts that the fall of Moscow would have been enough to make implode the Soviet Union also because all the Soviet war factories were already moved beyond the Urals.

[Clausewitzz]

@67claudius

The implode is not likely, the long term afther effects however can be considered cause it would have had effects on Stalin and thereby would have effected the whole state since he decided everything.

Moscow was also the center of communication in the vast Soviet lands the loss would have ment an even worse coordination and communication with the front wich was allready very bad and in reality stayed bad untill late 1942.

And not 'all' industry was in the east.

[67claudius]

@Clausewitzz Obviously history is not made with the 'if', but despite the spectacular advance of the German Army, Soviet heavy industry maintained much of its production capacity, in 1943 the Soviet Union produced about 2,000 tanks per month compared with about 500 of Germany. Thinking that the German army were almost obscure the existence of a tank as the T 34, shows the underestimation of Soviet military capabilities.

[Clausewitzz]

@67claudius

Production only matters if the leadership on the country and most of all the front was in good order, that wasnt the case for the Soviets untill late 1942.

During the start of the invasion Stalin didnt spoke to anybody for several weeks wich resulted in massive losses cause none dared to give an order.

And that mattered more to the whole situation then the ammount of production, one can have endless production but without proper leadership its rather useless.

[67claudius]

@Clausewitzz Stalin did not expect an attack of Nazi Germany and throughout the Soviet army was initially unprepared. The lidership Stalin had a moment of disbelief and surprise, but never wavered, as Hitler was advancing the Soviets were preparing to resist. Did the fall of Moscow lead to the defeat of the USSR? we'll never know, Napoleon conquered Moscow and he was also defeated. The Soviet Communist Party and the NKVD were exercising tighter controls on the population on its production.

[Clausewitzz]

@67claudius

Stalin suffered from a little more then just disbelief and surprize, in fact some close to him even considered he turned mad in the first weeks, and his reckless orders mostly in the first year that costed millions and often fully useless do confirm some of that.

And i think the Napoleon comparison is a bit off scale, also Moscow wasnt the capital back then.

But yes we'll never know for sure, dispite we dont know it you seem to be convinced about Soviet victory im not.

[67claudius]

@Clausewitzz I am convinced of the serious underestimation of Soviet military power and of Hitler's responsibility in the defeat of Nazi Germany on the Eastern Front. Certainly I do not think that the delay of the invasion of the USSR to help Italy in trouble on the front Greek is the main cause of defeat Nazi. The, problem with dictatorships is that, the strategic decisions sometimes take the dictators and not the General Staff. I haven't sympathy for either of the two murderous dictatorships.

[IustitiaPax]

Please note that this same general Francisco Franco, who brings the Roman ("fascist") salute before German troops in 1940 defeated France, was also the leader who alongside pope Pius XII, Finland and Sweden saved most Jews of Europe. Not the Americans or English, but Franco. Franco is now in the Righteous Among the Nations in the State of Israel memorial for the Shoah. The same anticommunist. An irony of fate, no? Because Franco wished to help persecuted people, he remained neutral.

[IustitiaPax]

Had Franco's Spain joined the Axis in October 1940, the British would have lost immediately, and the Americans would never have opposed Nazi German Empire. Stalin's USSR would have been dead.

[sinkthehmsinvincible]

Franco was half jewish and not a real fascist, if he was he would have joined the war, instead he sent off all the true fascists away to russia in the Blue division and he never planned for them to come back. he could have made a difference in the war in N. africa if he had wanted to

[IustitiaPax]

This is nonsense. It is very probable that Franco had some far-away Jewish ancestors (he was less Jewish than Mr Schicklgruber himself though). Franco was a conservative and a humanitarian Catholic. He wanted to serve Spain, and all oppressed, including Jews and persecuted clergy. The Blue Division was legitimate. Stalin's USSR had to be crushed.

[sarsanch]

Franco was a Fascist National Catolicist,an oportunist who will go werever the wind blow.

[IustitiaPax]

Nonsense. One cannot be Fascist and a Catholic at the same time really. Franco was stable and not opportunist at all. He served the interests of his country, Spain and the Church. Not of neopagan national-socialism of Hitler, nor of the Mussolini personality cult Fascism. Franco condemned racism, his African colonial troops had also fought side-by-side with Irish, White Russians, Italians, German Condor Legionaires and Spaniards against the red terrorists of the Spanish Republic.

[sarsanch]

It is your opinion but I still believe in the Spanish Republic, Franco was a killer of women and children with the help of the Catholic Church.

[IustitiaPax]

Yes, of course. You prefer to believe the Marxist lies and to ignore the NKVD, GPU and anarchist genocides against the Spanish farmers and the Spanish Church. I prefer to believe only the proven, objective facts from the Spanish Civil War. That Franco saved Europe from Communism, and was humanitarian even towards Republican enemies.

[sarsanch]

You should read Paul Preston's "Franco,Caudillo de España".

It might not convince you but it will show you

how wrong you are.

[IustitiaPax]

I do not read Marxist "historical" books, only objective literature, e.g. Francis Beaver "The History of Spain".

[IustitiaPax]

Sorry, Antony Beevor I mean. "The Spanish Civil War".

[TariqAlSuave]

It's amazing that you can type with your head so far up your ass, lPax. Franco was no humanitarian. If you had read Beevor's book, you would know, for example that while about 38,000 people were killed during the "Red Terror", the "White Terror" claimed the lives of 200,000. Surrendering republican soldiers had little chance of survival. I'm not saying the Republic was perfect, but, even after communist infiltration, it was far superior to the midget asshole.

[IustitiaPax]

Nonsense. Never read that in Beevor. Only in Marxist books. Of course if you claim the liberation of Spain by the National Troops of Franco was a "terror" (Red Terror was behind the Front), at the front, but not behind the Fronts. There was no such thing as White Terror. Unless in the propaganda of the exiled Spanish Red criminals of war.

[TariqAlSuave]

The White Terror was not in "liberating" Spain, but in the organized, pre-planned massacres of left wing elements in the nationalist zone that started on the first day of the war, and continued for the duration of hostilities. Franco was just as totalitarian as the Soviets, killing thousands of dissidents (even when war was over). He also tried the same kind of inane economic controls, though without the egalitarian window-dressing.

[IustitiaPax]

I guess that is why so many marxists stayed in Spain and why Franco in Valle de Los Caidos even had Republican soldiers buried with all honour. You fail to provide any scientific source. Your version of Spanish History is that of the pro-Marxist "intelligentsia", of a brainwashed pervert "so-called artists' elite". Not of real scientific elite. Sadly history is written by victorers, by the Communists and United States leftists sadly.

[IustitiaPax]

Since when is liberating a country from Communism "White Terror"? Or do you take USSR Pravda! Newspaper as your "objective historical source". Franco is a hero and very humanitarian, already during World War II. A Righteous Among the Nations in Israel, unlike your hero Stalin and the communists who only resisted after 1941 but did not help thát many Jews (most Jews were hidden by Catholics and Calvinists, in monasteries).

[TariqAlSuave]

I'm no commie. Stalin was one of the few contemporaries arguably worse than Franco. As for Franco being "Righteous Among the Nations", I have seen nothing to suggest that. He was actually extremely antisemitic, and only refused to interfere with Jewish refugees for because he wanted to stay on the allies good side if they won the war. The statistics are from Pages 87 and 94 of "The Battle for Spain".

[IustitiaPax]

Nonsense. Franco saved 250,000 Jews by opening the borders to occupied Franco in December, 1941, and he ordered Spanish diplomats to save Sephardic Jews (but also Azkhenashi if possible). I have more sources than Beevor alone of course. Like Yad Vashem. Franco was not antisemitic. He was a bit antizionist, and he opposed "judeo-capitalismo" and Marxism as sad consequences of Jewish thinking and naturalism. Is that antsemitism. He was ethnic (Catholic) Jewish himself partly!

[TariqAlSuave]

"he opposed "judeo-capitalismo" and Marxism as sad consequences of Jewish thinking and naturalism"

The attribution of Capitalism and Communism to Jewish origins is asinine. Then again, that is to be expected from someone so admittedly antirational.

What are you going to claim next, that the Basques burned Gernika, or that 6 million European Jews gassed themselves?

[IustitiaPax]

Well, of course Marxism and Capitalism are systems most supported by Jews, but one cannot blame the entire Jewish people for them, let alone the religious Talmud Jews. I was not claiming anything, I was talking about Franco. Or do you want to brand me an "antisemite" too (like you did with Franco) in order to not having to admit the Red Terror and what your beloved genocidal "Spanish Republic" committed against the Spanish People and Church?

[TariqAlSuave]

I never said the republic was perfect, or denied the atrocities, though genocide is not an applicable term. It was a crappy system, but it was far and away the lesser of two evils. Akin to the Eastern Front in WWII, where your beloved Caudillo sent a division to fight for an actual genocidal government.

[IustitiaPax]

It was pretty much a genocide in Asturia, Andalusia, Extremadura and especially around Madrid and Toledo against entire Nationalist families and against áll members of the Church. Franco's repression after 1939 against marxists was harsh, but he néver allowed that entire "marxist" families were wiped out like your beloved "progressive" Revolutionary Spanish Republic stimulated and allowed officially from 1936-39!

[IustitiaPax]

In 1941 the Eastern Front was still a fight against internationalist Marxism and Bolshevism threatening Europe, only during mid or late 1942 did it become genocidal, when the SS and SD came in in Ukraine and Russia. Not beforehand. You lack historical knowledge. The Blue Division was not involved in atrocities anyway, and Franco in 1943 due to Nazi antisemitism retracted his permission and initial pro-Axis opinion. One cannot blame all anticommunists for the horrors of the Shoah and Nazi terror!

[IustitiaPax]

I think Franco was rather call it sad consequences of the darkness of "Talmudic and Cabbalah thinking which implies naturalism". I wrote it incorrectly first time. Anyway, Franco saved 100,000s of Jews and was honoured for that. Even though Marxists and political correct Liberal Maffiosi try to evict his memorial from Yad Vashem.

[IustitiaPax]

Gernika was a failure of the Condor Legion, who thought Basque troops hid there. Of course Guernica was exploited by the international Marxist and liberal press as a campaign against the National-Spanish Liberation Effort. The photos of the raped and neck-shot Religious Sisters of Charity in Toledo and Madrid and Barcelona were not shown by the leftist propaganda of course....

This is not about the Nazi crime of the Shoah genocide, but about Franco, a philosemite conservative liberator.

[stalinmurdered]

My God.

There are sane, intelligent people in this world.

[TariqAlSuave]

Whether Fascist or Feudalist, Franco was a totalitarian asshole. How the hell did he "save europe from communism". Did Stalin think to himself "Well, I can take on the Americans, the British, the French, and the West Germans no problem. But that Spanish midget scares the crap out of me." Oh, and there were cossacks and Arabs in the Waffen-SS; having diverse soldiers does not exempt one from racism.

[IustitiaPax]

Franco was no racist, the fact that you dare allege that General Franco was a racist, proves you are a historical nitwit, ignorant type. Franco was a national conservative. Not a "feudalist", but a corporatist. Do you work for the Communist Propaganda International still, "Tariq"?

[IustitiaPax]

Franco was no racist, the fact that you dare allege that General Franco was a racist, proves you are a historical nitwit, ignorant type. Franco was a national conservative. Not a "feudalist", but a corporatist. Do you work for the Communist Propaganda International still, "Tariq"?

[TariqAlSuave]

Feudalism and corporatism are far from incompatible. Franco was ideologically inconsistent, having to please both Carlists and Falangists. But enough of this.

[IustitiaPax]

General Franco created the social welfare system in Spain. By organic solidarity of the entire Spanish people and the Basques and Catalans. Not by the force and genocidal brutality of the Anarchists and Marxists in 1936-39. Your numbers are unproven and you talk like a true Communist. What is "feudalism" anyway in your opinion? Is nationalcatolicismo or nobility "feudalism". To Communists it is of course. But it is not social injustice.

[TariqAlSuave]

Interesting that you mention the Basques and Catalans as distinct groups, as your lilliputian idol banned the speaking of those languages in public.

I really don't get how you can have such a hard on for a Totalitarian, uber-religious, draconian dictator. Particularly if you're Dutch. Aren't you guys supposed to be secular, tolerant, liberal and rational?

[IustitiaPax]

Well, I never said I agreed with Franco's centralist policies or with all the Falange said. I am a monarchist more or so myself, but not naive. I respect all cultures, including the Basque. But I do respect Marxist perversion of Spanish history. Viva España! Viva Cristo Rey! And please study some history instead of anti-Francoist propaganda from Liberals and Marxists.

[IustitiaPax]

Correction: I meant of course that I do not respect Marxist or Liberalistic-Democraticist-Eng­lish falsification of the complex history of the Spanish Civil War. Sadly many historians are biased and leftist, they all exaggerate the Republican "victimis" and blame the Nationalists for it. Not the desastrous food situation in Republican-Communist Spain and the implosion of food production inside Anarchist collectivized "farms" (where most original small farmers were killed due to their religion)!

[IustitiaPax]

We Dutch are diverse and commonly differentiated. Because some of our post-marxist governments apostatized and legalized homosexual "marriage", and (1981) murder of the unborn (abortion), and because too many Dutch were brainwashed into secularist and liberalist ideologies (tolerance towards evil, aversion from truth), does not mean thé Dutch are like that. Only the brainwashed system media followers. I am a proud Dutch Catholic academic. Tolerant towards all human persons, nót towards evil!

[TariqAlSuave]

Enough of this. I'm disengaging. This is stupid and unproductive; anyone who sees liberalism and secularism as evil is irredeemable as a rational being. Screw you, and screw all inbred, self-obsessed self obsessed hereditary dictators.

[IustitiaPax]

You are irrational as you lack arguments for your progressist "tolerant" ideology which facilitated the Red Terror to begin with. Name-calling, that's all the "Enlightened" "progressive" "intellectuals" could also resort to when they faced the National-Spanish liberators who captured them and their criminal Marxist International Brigades. Secularism and Liberalism are signs of decay and lack of Historical Knowledge. Voltaire was the first Great Falsifier, alongside Lenin and Trotsky.

[IustitiaPax]

General Franco consciously demanded too much financial help from the Germans for an eventual entry in a war against the Soviets. And Franco was opposed to Hitlerite antisemitism. He was a clever and pious man.

[TheNewAlbania]

Not bad,and you don't forget Franco ;D