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  • Birth is 10x more risky than abortion.

    You lose.

  • @bobmuffins abortion increased by 155% the risk of suicide in women. COLEMAN, Priscilla K. "Abortion and mental health: quantitative synthesis and analysis of research published 1995–2009". En: The British Journal of Psychiatry, September 3, 2011, p. 180-186

  • @ghanmy ahahahahaha lmfao okay bro

    how about the hundreds of studies that prove abortion has an even better result than birth and adoption in terms of feelings of depression?

    Yes, most people who get abortions feel relief, not depression.

    And "Post abortal syndrome"? Have you done any fucking research? That's not a thing.

  • @bobmuffins oo look at you. You are soo full of anger. I pity you .Did you read the journal? I think its you who didnt do your research (I can easily use the f* word but I wont lower my status to an animal by saying that f* word)

  • @ghanmy So, you're using "I'm angry with you" as an argument against me? I feel I've got full rights to be angry with you when you're trying to limit the rights of uterus-bearers to their OWN BODY. That's just despicable.

    And as for me not doing my research (and you deleting your comment about my "hundreds of studies", which I never even said)- Guttmeicher. Institute. Game over, you lose, GG.

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  • "But the fact is, legal abortions kill babies and kill women." Son, you wouldn't recognize Fact if you caught it with your momma in the bathroom while your daddy's at work.

  • @TokoBali2

    1. The fact is legal abortions kill babies and kill women.

    2. My mother has a job, so stop being sexist.

    3. I actually have my own family, I don't live with either of my parents.

    If you would like to debate any facts or opinions I have presented please feel free to try, I'm trying to have a reasonable discussion here.

  • @AMPatriot4Life says: abortions kill babies and kill women.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~ So does childbirth. Are you trying to stop that to save your adores women? No? Why not? (smile)

  • Oh, you are so obnoxious. There is nothing worse than a young idiot who thinks they are smart. You are a mysoginistic ass. Good grief.

  • Women who thinks it does not give cancer are not well informed! But Wow you are very good!

  • UNNATURAL SURGERY?! SO ARE THERE SOME NATURAL SURGERIES?

    NOW DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY WOMEN HAVE DIE FOR GIVING BIRTH NATURALLY OR THROUGH CESAREANS? I THINK YOUR NUMBERS OF DEATHS FROM ABORTIONS ARE WAY SMALLER LIKE YOUR TINY BRAINS COMPARE TO DEATHS FROM NATURAL BIRTHS AND CESAREANS.

  • Is any surgery natural? [not argueing you just saying any surgery isnt natural]

  • To this day, over 600 women die from CHILDBIRTH each year in the US. EACH YEAR. (How many names are on YOUR list, and from how many years?)

    Many of those deaths are complications from C-sections. Like abortion, a C-section is what you would call "an unnatural surgery" (what would qualify as a "natural" surgery?), so do you think C-sections shouldn't be performed either?

    I guess the important thing is that YOU get to make crucial medical decisions for women you don't even know.

  • why don't you spend more of your time actually helping prevent unintended pregnancies, instead of attempting to lie to women about abortion (it is one of the safest medical procedures, performed on nearly 1 in 3 women in the US) and force your opinion on people. You don't think abortions are moral? Then don't have one. Leave everyone else alone. I don't tell you what to do with your penis, so leave my uterus alone.

  • i will never get over the numbers of MEN who stand outside of abortion clinics and protest health care given to WOMEN. The anti-abortion movement literally began with women's liberation in the mid-1800's. Before then, abortion was common and without stigma. This video, along with every man fighting against women and their ability to make their own decisions regarding their uterus, are an AFFRONT to women everywhere. How insulting and arrogant you are, "patriot."

  • Abortion IS safe. There is a risk of something going wrong with any surgical procedure. We already know this. And your little poster doesn't state how these women died, either; and furthermore, the number of women who have died compared to the number of women who have had successful (legal) abortions is quite minute.

  • Abortion IS safe. There is a risk of something going wrong with any surgical procedure. We already know this. And your little poster doesn't state how these women died, either; and furthermore, the number of women who have died compared to the number of women who have had successful (legal) abortions is quite minute.

  • Death after an abortion done by a medical professional is extremely rare.

    Abortion is 11 times safer than giving birth pre-20wks gestation. Post-20wks, when a v tiny % of abortions are done, the risk of death is same as childbirth. Your video is inaccurate & misleading.

    Its kind of you, as someone who can never be pregnant, to be so concerned with womens health but we're grown-ups. You dont need to strip us of our rights & treat us like morons to 'help' us, we can make our own minds up.

  • Im primarily concerned with helping the innocent children who are being slaughtered. It just so happens that women would be better off themselves if they decided not to destroy their offspring.

  • So even though the driving point behind your video is womens health and preventing our deaths, the moment I disprove that driving point, it suddenly isn't your primary concern any more??

    It's great that you want to stop innocent children from being slaughtered. Though that has nothing to do with abortion, obviously.

    Please post your source to back up the outlandish statement that 'women would be better off if they decided not to destroy their offspring'. Thank you.

  • @AMPatriot4Life says: It just so happens that women would be better off themselves if they decided not to destroy their offspring.\

    ~~~~~~~

    LOl, spoken like a true man with pregnancy, childbirth and breastfeeding envy. read up on it sweetheart, you'll see yourself clearly in the book. Eve's Seed: Biology, the Sexes, and the Course of History". Ddi you have parition envy as a boy? You have anxiety felt by men, naturally envying woman’s primary role in creating and sustaining life .SICK

  • @AMPatriot4Life says: Im primarily concerned with helping the innocent children who are being slaughtered.

    ~~~~~~~~~ Bull shit. Youre concerning about nothing but YOUR feelings. Its all about your obsession...You have taken an unknow entity that is OWNED by someone else, that could die naturally or be aborted and you'd NEVER know it, that you wont care about, wont feed, love, or guide and you have basically made it ...YOUR OWN, ADORED "BABY. Thats a sickness, especially for a male.

  • @Sueezee1

    Are you not a person then? BC all of that stuff applies to you., As far as I am concerned you are an "unknow entity " "that could die naturally or be aborted and you'd NEVER know it, that you wont care about, wont feed, love, or guide"

    Just bc I don't personally know and feed someone doesn't justify killing them. I guess you feel differently.

  • @AMPatriot4Life says: re you not a person then

    ~~~~~~~~~ Am I frickin BORN?? Jesus christ...my kingdom for ONE single intelligent probirhters comments...just frickin ONE!!

  • @AMPatriot4Life says: you are an "unknow entity " "that could die naturally or be aborted

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~ ever wonder why your bright ideas get you NOwhere? Number one, I AM NOT "unknown". I have legal status, and a record of my existence from a point of view of traceability, & documentation! Isnt it funny that you thought "unknown", as i used it, meant you dont know me?? hahahah!! Now, are you going to address your womb, childbirth, and breastfeeding envy?

  • @AMPatriot4Life says: you are an "unknow entity " "that could die naturally or be aborted

    ~~~~~~~~~ yes, you little rocket scientist... of course I could be aborted... Enough childish BS ..is enough. BYE!!

  • @vmcparlin You just sound like another womens rights person... where im from we dont like your kind.

  • Oh my fucking non existent god, do some research. Even here in the US, women are far more likely to die from childbirth than abortion.

  • Come on, be a big, HONEST man.....list all the names of women who die in childbirth.

  • 529 000 women die every yr die from childbirth. During 2004--2005 15 women died from abortion./World Health org Since you're so concerned with women lives, perhaps we should stop those damned deadly births. Oh wait...its not about the women dying at all, is it? (smile). Your lies get you nowhere!

  • Your talking about world wide when the world population is 2-3 Billion people! That is very small in comparison if its even true. How about instead of condemning the most amazing gift that was given to you and everybody on youtube that can see this video and respond to it in opposition, How about you folks find a way to help more women have safer births worldwide instead of supporting a practice with the purpose of controlling the population not giving women rights!

  • neo: the most amazing gift Speak for your self! You are NOT the judge of what is a gift & what isnt. If they were all "amazing gifts", there would be no abortion neo: pracitice of controlling th epopulation

    LOLOL, you think women abort to save the world? It seems you've been reading the prolife propaganda book,

  • You don't fucking get it do you? We pro lifers are standing up for the unborn childs life and yours stupid! There are countries around the world where people are looked at as just another faceless member of society! Look at China for godness sake! They have no respect for life and ylpeople like you are forcing us into your way of life and are acting like there is something wrong with us! When the time comes in this society to get rid of people because you will eventually be dispenseable...

  • neo: we are prolife standing up for newborn Bull shit,... youre standing up for YOURSELVES. It all about you & what you want for you! If that wernt true, you'd be prochoice LIAR~~~~~~~~~~~~

  • Please don't be afraid to be the first one to be euthanized! LOL They use this kind of mentality in countries like China where you are easily replaceable and people are alright with that! LOL Since your fine with it you shouldn't mind therefore if I refer to you as comrade!LOL

  • neo: dont be afrid to be the first one enthanized Hahahha, I NEVER tire of hearing prolife idiocy. Your ideas are the reason aboriton is legal. You have NO valid argument, and we thank you dearly!

  • You are so dumb and you dont get it LOL! You want proof of my "idiocy"?! Look up on google "women encouraged to get mammogram at 50!" LOL

  • neo: want proof of my idiocy. look up mamograms at 50 MAMOGRAMS?  What in the hell are you talking about now????? You JUST proved your OWN idiocy... you always do. Thanks!

  • You don't get it do you when you and society accepts abortion as an acceptable means of convenience then other issues will surface it is inevitable! The mammograms at 50 is an inkling that society will be forced to accept rationing of health care which means rationing of the individuals value! There are women that have been diagnosed at age 30 having breast cancer and have caught it early and been able to treat it and live because they value themselves and want to live. But recently I have...

  • heard that (since this whole socialized health care thing is going on) that women have been encouraged to get breast examines at a later date to cut down on cost! there are many women that are outraged that they are basically being told to hell with their own view of themselves having value and wanting to live by having themselves examined for problems but to embrace the collective idea that they must look at the bigger picture that their lives are no more different than anybody else's! LOL

  • just like how you morns look at abortion! (Oh its not really a person and who cares if millions of people die every year its not me in there and the most popular and probably most uneducated statement its a womens right! LOL PLEASE explain to me how its a womens right you still have not yet done that probably don't know how to) LOL you wont get this its too big for you and I expect some ignorant retort from you and I look forward to explaining this to you further!

  • Anyone who cares about women wouldn't advocate state-mandated pregnancy, or that thousands of women hemorrhage to death in filthy hotel rooms seeking to end their pregnancies with the aid of cheap abortionists.

    Abortion remaining legal is paramount to its being regulated and safe, which is what a real advocate for women and children would fight for. Period.

  • Not to mention all the women who die from abortions that go unreported. They will be told they died from an infection or something with her female parts instead it was caused by an abortion.

  • Wow, this Vid is very informative. I did not know women died from abortion that often. Thanks bro. God bless.

  • Praise: vid informative/didnt know owmen dies from abortion that often I surely hope your source of education is NOT from a vid on YT. Knowledge is power, get power................. and NOT from YT!

  • Actually I meant to say "I did not know women died from legal abortion that often". And yes, you can receive knowledge from watching a show that's informative and educational. You do watch the History Channel, National Geographic and have watched Sesame Street and perhaps Electric company when you were younger, yes?

    Are you saying you cannot learn from watching news?

    TV shows are often video taped....

  • praise: you can recieve knowledge watching a show thats informative & educatina; Who said you could'nt??? God, please tell you me your NOT a non comprehending reader!!

    praise: are you saying you cant leanr from watching the news? What the fuck are you talking about??? For christs sake..i said dont get your info from a YT vid!!Who said anything about watching the god damned news? You are the dumbest peoople I have EVER seen! praise: show are often vidio taped WHAT? hahah

  • Sueeze, I can comprehend just fine. You do understand what an illustration is, yes?

    I was using the news and shows as an illustration that one can gain knowledge through others by you tube.

    BTW sentences such as "you me your Not a noncomprehending reader" and "You are the dumbest peoople I have Ever seen" demonstrate your own ability to parse out a basic English sentence, which I am afraid needs remedial attention.

  • LMAO...this guy is a freaking idiot.

    you just litteraly took a quote out of context.

    now compare to all the other safe surgeries that go wrong. does that mean those are bad for people too?

    thats what you just literally said, "holy crap, shame one you!"

    lets not forget about abortions 200-300 years ago, those abortions were lethal. now compare that to now! tell me what is safe and whats not.

    SHADDUP!!!

    and get a life. rule your own life and not others, freaking hypocrites.

  • Do you know how many women hemorrhaged to death after staggering into ER's across this country with their intestines falling out their vaginas through perforated uteruses after undergoing illegal back alley abortions?

    Advocating state-mandated pregnancy and seeking to illegalize women's reproductive rights is one thing, but the lunacy of calling these philosphies pro-woman? Disgusting.

  • the stigma of having a child outside of marriage is gone and adoption would be chosen more often if legalised killing of unborn babies became illegal.

  • In some subcultures it is, others not so much.

    Women will always have abortions, the question is how many you'd have die in the process to save FETUSES.

  • You're avoiding his point. Death from back alley abortions only contribute to the total number of women who die from abortions period.

  • Individuals will always seek to control their own reproduction, to give themselves and their already-existing families the best chance of survival.

    The question is how many women fascists and bible thumpers would have die in the process...

  • call we see the date, anything current in the year 2009!

    no.

    BTW, you can die from a tummy tuck or liposuction!

  • Getting an abortion before 3 mos gestation is safer than childbirth. To reduce abortion rates, the way isn't to make it a crime & use intimidation towards women, but to attack social & economic conditions that drive women to get them. Illegal abortions cause women to use unsafe & unclean measures, killing more women & unborn children - so much for being "pro-life." I will never understand those who are outraged about the unborn, but aren't outraged over EXISTING suffering children in the world!

  • wow.

    you are a male, therefore you should have NO FUCKING SAY in how abortion affects women.

  • I am a person who used to be an embryo and a fetus. And my government refused to protect my life. Lucky for me i wasnt murdered.

    ppl should not have to rely on luck they should have the law on their side too.

  • The fact your mother chose to carry you to term(though it was a waste) was he choice.

    Just like you're choosing to be offensive and repressive to women.

    Seriously, you Anti-Choice nuts need to MIND YOUR OWN FUCKING BUISNESS!

    If you feel so strongly for the right to live, why don't you take the time and money you waste on Anti-Choice activities, and adopt one of the many children who are parentless and homeless...... naw, that might be something christ would do, huh?

  • wow.

    I am not a criminal, therefore i should have NO FUCKING SAY in how criminals kill people

  • This is retarded. Any surgery you can name can result in death and as medical technology gets better, this goes down. Women know what theyre getting into but death is such a small chance to happen. Notice his little poster only goes through 1998? Because after that when abortion became more reliable to do, there are less to none deaths now. This guy is a moron.

  • this guy is really good looking, actually. i applaud his effort to stand up for what he believes. however, abortions are safe when done correctly in proper clinics. if more ob/gyns would just do them in their office women wouldn't NEED to go to clinics.

    also, abortions have been going on since before the greeks. get over it. it will NEVER go away. i just watched the movie, "revolutionary road." check it out.

  • "also, abortions have been going on since before the greeks. get over it. it will NEVER go away. i just watched the movie, "revolutionary road." check it out."

    ---------------

    Rape and child molestation go back that far also, Do you think we should legalize those acts too.

    They will NEVER go away either, yet they are still wrong just like abortion.

  • This guy is a moron. The arguments don't stand up to basic logic. Abortion isn't the only medical procedure people die from - heart surgery, appendectomies... Pro-choicers don't kill people - don't get me started on that. This whole video is talking down to people. Maybe if you'd show us some respect, we'd think a LITTLE more highly of you.

  • Counselling should be available to women experiencing a crisis pregnancy and using coathangers just as intervention should be available to other people who would harm themselves in other ways.

  • collegefratlover,Having an abortion is a lot more than just nonsense,it is cruel to both mother and the prenatal baby.

  • I'm sorry but i will not even discuss this with a male. you are not a female, their for you will never have the slightest idea what its like.. how can you have a say so in something you will never experience?

  • Yeah, and child birth kills women too. So does post-partum depression. You're a fucking idiot dude. You sound like you didn't even finish high school. How much research did you do????

    GO CHOICE!!!!!!

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  • idiot

  • Dude your a fucking chud

  • Im sure that women DO die from having abortions every year.....then again people die from having heart transplants....people have even died because they gave blood. Its not usually the actual procedure that results in death, it would be more likely that these deaths occurred due to infection or a problem with coagulation which is common in treatment for pretty much EVERY medical procedure done. You can get an infection and die from getting a SHOT! So does that meanyou shouldnt have the option?

  • Pregnancy is not a disease so it is nonsense to be getting a medical procedure for something that is not a disease.Heart disease is on the other hand-a disease.

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  • It does not make any sense for a woman and a man to be having sex when one or both of them do not want to cause a pregnancy,just as it makes no sense to run very fast and want not to sweat.

  • So you're saying sex should ONLY be for reproduction?

  • Sex is a lot more fun than harsh exercise - but don't worry, I'm sure you get neither.

  • sex is for conceiving a baby end of story.

  • That's not how it works sweetie.

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  • people say, oh if i have this child, then i wont be able to afford anything, or they say it wouldnt be fair to the child if i had him/her...THAT DOESNT MAKE IT OK TO KILL THE BABY OMFG thats a life, how is that fair to the baby, the baby didn't to anything. its not like babies just randomly happen, its people being irresponsible and having unsafe sex. By the way, its not ALL part of the womans body...theres a life inside a life. The hearts beating, hes/shes eating, and even brain activity

  • all surgery is unnatural because it's surgery, abortions are a million times more dangerous when not done by a doctor. a woman should never be put in a position where she is forced to have a baby the she is possibly not ready for or a baby that would have a poor quality of life for reasons that would be unchangable. pro life people dont seem to think about or care what happens after a baby is born or what its born into.

    like it or not sometimes abortion is the right thing to do.

  • Some people who have had the most horrible childhoods have gone on to have very full and happy lives. But, to you, I suppose NO LIFE is better than a chance at ANY LIFE?

  • ok yor saying some meaning to all not even most mate so what about all the others that dont go on to live full and happy lives? why is it fair to put them through such a horrible life (that could be prevented) just because people like YOU say they have too. its all down to personal choice and your thoughts and opinions mean nothing to the people who have to make those life altering choices.

  • Well, as one of those people who came from an large, poor, rather unhappy home, I for one can tell you I WOULD RATHER BE BORN. I'm glad I at least got the chance, and of course it's fair to "put them through such a horrible life", because any non-emo will tell you that life is NEVER perfect, it is NEVER just good moments, it is a mixture of good and bad, and the good makes the bad worth living through, and taking the opportunity from ANYONE is WRONG.

  • About 67,000 women die from illegal abortion every year in countries where it is illegal. Five million are hospitalized from abortion complications such as too much bleeding or infection. This is the reason that so many pro-choice people and organizations like Planned Parenthood keep fighting to keep abortion safe and legal in the U.S.

    Get your facts straight !!

  • Yeah women die from childbirth too, plus it's their own choice to decide if they want to or not, you cant make it ilegal bec that's just not right, you can't make them just have it if they dont want to, or cant afford to look after it, or aren't ready for one yet.

    So go talk about something else bec their not gunna make it ilegal !!

  • wake the fuck up. All surgery carries risk and it is a FACT that abortion usually carries less risk than birth

  • Oh my god, you have flawless logic. Because an abortion is dangerous, it shouldn't be performed?

    Google the statistics on mortalities in appendectomies. Better yet, google statistics on mortality rates of ANY surgery and tell me that because a percentage (high on some procedures, like chemotherapy) of patients have died, that a procedure shouldn't be performed. Even better than that, look up statistics of women who die in CHILDBIRTH! Oh, irony..so sweet..

  • not only that but I can guarantee you that there is no woman out there that wants to get an abortion but what if they're homeless or they're in a financial problem and can't afford to take care of a kid? Also, why is it that you pro-lifers care about the baby when they're in the womb but not after they come out? So maybe if pro-lifers were to help these babies after they came out as well then i would at least have more respect for them.

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    How would it be a pro-lifers fault?

    because most of you "pro-lifers" force these women to have babies even if their life OR health is in danger. And you know what else? A LOT of you pro-lifers have KILLED these doctors that have given women abortions. Talk about "pro-life".

  • Keep it up brother, only one opinion counts when we are done. You are doing just fine :)

  • birth also kills women.

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  • @envyedfan254 Women who choose abortion suffer post abortal syndrome, hypertension, provokes inflammation, hormone disruption and neurological disorders

  • This guy and others like him re-enforce my commitment to keeping abortion legal....his mother should have had one.

  • 2. There are a lot of women who get aboritions and can't afford it, so they go to dodgy doctors to have there abortions, that is the reason why many women die. For it to be legalised and cheaper for women to have abortions - not as many women would die.

    I would just like to say that I don't care if your for or against abortion - but when you say women are dying from abortions - get some education and some facts to back up what you say. I just gave you 2 facts for you. Good luck!

  • Listen up bogan-redneck dumby. You've forgot to mention a lot of things in your video.

    1. Yes women die of getting abortions, but millions of people die all around the world from ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT OPERATIONS. Any kind of operation is a risk, so what are you going to do? Ban every single operation??? So why don't you make a movie about every single person (male and female) who has died having an operation!

  • No shit sherlock! ALL Surgeries are unnatural. And yes, it will be the pro-life supporters fault if she dies because of an abortion, women will not stop having abortions just because it's made illegal. You are a dumb ass Redneck skinhead who thinks it's okay to control women. What matters is that while the child is legal to be aborted, it is not conscious, and therefore not a person. A fetus has about the same level of consciousness as a plant, and you have killed hundreds of those, MURDERER!

  • gb2 KKK

  • Oh the delusioned religious maniacs.

    Stupid. All surgeries are unnatural. Duh.

    You know, I've noticed that people are always pro-life until they get raped. Then they start doubting their beliefs. Just saying.

  • You are stupid.

    Stupid for posting a video about abortion because it's not going to do anything.

    Stupid for wanting to regulate a WOMAN's body- not yours, a WOMAN's body.

    Stupid for stuttering throughout the entire video, ha.

    Just plain stupid.

  • And secondly, this isn't about survival of the fittest here and not on the same level as animals and other lifeforms. We are human beings that are supposed to have intelligence and rational thought.

  • 1) wut if the woman was raped?

    2) wut if after getting pregnant (married) her doctor told her that if she kept the baby, it would kill her and the baby?

    3) if ur against abortions...DONT HAVE ONE

  • i agree with you. but please take the time to type out "what" if you are trying to make a valid argument

  • They tell you to drink water and bathe in it but people die every day due to water-related incidents. We should illegalize and ban the use of water, right? People also die in plane crashes, die eating chicken left out too long, die from bee stings... bear attacks.... falling down stairs.... playing sports.... women even die giving birth. We should just ban everything, right? Where does freedom of choice end and restriction of rights begin? Pro-choice "is" Pro-life, the right to live freely.

  • Great video, ignore the heartless harlots & keep doing them for their own good ( :

    But no one cares about the women who dies getting legal/back alley abortions. I would like to see a video talking about legal abortions in comparison to maternal deaths, that's a much more valuable topic to educate others.

  • 1. If its not your uterus, stay out of it!

    2. if some one is raped they shouldnt have to carry that child.

    3. if someone cannot support the child, should that child be subject to a terrible life? no.

    stay out of it. theyre only killing themselves and their american dream by saving the baby

  • 1. if it's not your life, stay out of it.

    2. if someone is rape tough luck, it isn't the child's fault.

    3. There are homless people living a terrible life, should we do the "humane" thing and euthenize them?

    How about you stay out of it, this is MY country & I don't want unlawful killings of innocent human beings legal.

    ++Women's rights++

    The silly notion that women rights are above human-rights. You gals might have the government fooled, but you don't have me fooled!

  • hmm never thought about euthenizing the homeless....I'll have to get right on that

  • 1. i just said that. why did you need to repeat it. its not you uterus(or life) so stay out of it.

    2. no its not tough luck. have you ever been raped? cause i doubt it. you have no idea what they're going through.

    3. ok mine was realistic. yours was preposterous.

    no i wont stay out of it. im an American too. This is OUR country and maybe focus your anger towards the thousands of rapists in this country.

    ++Women's rights++

    it should be that WOMAN to decide how she wants to live her life.

  • 1. No.

    2. Don't care

    3. Both senarios are the same.

    "This is OUR country"

    The day I agree with that, will be the day you admit it is not just your body when pregnant.

    ++Women's rights++

    The silly notion that women rights are above human-rights. You gals might have the government fooled, but you don't have me fooled!

  • ok. if your daughter one day came home crying. she's screaming and balling and you find out she was raped by a suicidal maniac behind a barnes and noble. he didnt use a condom. he kills himself in front of her once he's done.

    you are actually going to tell your daughter she has to carry that baby?

  • " daughter she has to carry that baby?"

    I'd get her the morning after pill. but if the embryo is already planted, unless it interfers with her health, i'd advise her to have the baby. But I see no point in bringing up rape, getting an abortion because of rape only account less than 4% so either way, you have no real point. pro-lifers are aiming for more restrictions on abortions, It's just my personal opinion that abortion is wrong even in the case of rape.

  • really, a man trying to decide whether a women should have a choice... typical! First of all this guy doesn't know the spectrum of most people who are pro choice. I am pro choice... Does that mean that I want women to use abortion as a type of birth control. NO! that is wrong. But I do believe that if a women is raped she should not have to carry that burden. Also, if it is determined early in the pregnancy that the baby could kill the mother, i say save the mother, because if momdies sodoesbaby

  • The bottom line - legal abortion is a very safe procedure - one of the safest. Please, stop spreading your lies on youtube, and at least do some research next time you make a claim, rather than just spout what you yourself think and wailing because some people died during a medical procedure. It happens, and much more in other fields of medicine.

  • So lets say there are 400 names on your poster, plus the other 242 it mentions at the end. There are probably less, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

    There have been OVER 45 million legal abortions performed in the USA since the procedure was legalised. Let's take 45 million, the lowest possible number.

    0.0014%. That's the percentage of abortions that result in the woman's death.

    Compare that to appendectomies, which have a fatality rate of 0.30-37%.

  • So, looking at my previous post, you've proven my point for me - the death rate is very low. Abortion does not kill women, any more than any other surgical procedures, and much less in many cases. Seeing as you like your figures, and your "hundreds of deaths" then let's play the numbers game.

  • 5. Statistics show from 1950-1972 (when abortion was legalised in the United States) and beyond this time, the amount of deaths from legal abortions decreased. You said it yourself - "I challenge you to find half this amount of deaths from illegal abortions". That does not indicate a lower rate of abortions - it indicates the procedure getting safer, as many trained physicians were willing to still undertake the procedure despite it's illegality.

  • [cont] the back alley "doctors" are going to be recording statistics of the "patients" that have died in his or her care. It's not a case of "back then they knew it was wrong". It's a case of "back then record-keeping was nowhere near as in depth as statistics these days" and "illegal abortion 'doctors' don't tend to keep records of those who've died in their care at all. Because it'd be making a record of what is technically manslaughter."

  • 4. You pose the challenge to find an amount of deaths comparable to those from legal abortions, in statistics of deaths from back alley abortions. You then make the claim that the back alley abortions would return a lower death toll. While it's incredibly unlikely that's even the case, it could quite easily be explained - ever think that the deaths that take place in a clinic, a part of a country's medical infrastructure, would be recorded? Whereas back alley abortions, well. It's not as if

  • 3. Ok then, let's assume, however wrongly, abortions legal and illegal are dangerous - so you want to make them all illegal? Both statistics and sheer common sense show "back alley" abortions are a hell of a lot more dangerous...so now you want to remove all options, and make it so everyone has the only option of an unsafe, untrained procedure? Yes, that would make those deaths, at least partially, the fault of the pro-life lobby.

  • 2. Your claim that it should be stopped and is unsafe as it is an "unnatural procedure" - surely no surgical procedure is "natural"? Something like a heart transplant isn't - you're cutting open someone's chest and putting your hands inside them. So do you think those should be banned too? Flying on aeroplanes isn't "natural" - it's a manmade machine, so they should be banned?

  • Ohhh this is going to be fun.

    1. Your poster. The amount of deaths on that poster? A paltry amount compared to those killed during other, more common medical procedures. Heck, the number of deaths from appendectomies, one of the simplest surgical procedures, from whenever the first date of death is on there (however cleverly worded it is making it seem like those are the death statistics for one year) is much higher. Sometimes things go wrong - it doesn't make the procedure "unsafe".

  • Thousands more women die from CHILDBIRTH rather than ABORTION, idiot. Talk to me when you have a uterus and maybe then I will actually listen to you.

  • Did you no that 99.9974% of legal abortions worldwide don't even hurt the woman...they are one of the safest procedures ever invented. I don't support abortions at all, but you need to get your stats right. You'll also note that on your list, most of those dates are pre-1990. Do you know how many people in western countries die of the common cold each year...far more than your little statistic here. More people die of all sorts of things.

  • You are a fucking idiot

  • Did you know that governments have killed millions of women, just by denying them legal abortion? Illegal abortions kill women.

    More lucky women just end up with infertility or intense emotional scars, but for some, the inability to find a legal abortion provider will take away the mother of their born children. SAVE WOMENS LIVES!! KEEP ABORTION LEGAL!!!

    Assholes who pretend they're anti-abortion because they care about women are either hypocrites or uneducated morons.

  • If you die while killing someone else then maybe thats just karma.

    The solution to saving these womens lives is to convince them not to slaughter their children.

  • I'm sick and tired hearing fuck heads like him who think they know everything talk about a issues that they shouldn't be able to talk about. No matter what at the end of the day it's always about what the mother want to do and this stupid mother fucker want's to come one Youtube, make a chart because he has no life and say these are all the women who died because of abortion, well did you know technology wasn't like it was in the past? Now and days technology can help a women during abortion

  • he can't even speak properly and HE has no uterus sooo don't care!

  • Life Dynamics: we basically rob the graves of aborted.

  • What an idiot!! 529 000 women every yr die from childbirth. During 2001--2002 15 women died from abortion./World Health org STOP THAT FRICKING DEADLY CHILDBIRTH NOW!!!!!!!!

  • Hmm, hundreds of women... interesting, although they are all spread out over decades, some even 30 years ago, when technology wasn't as advanced risks were higher. There were undoubtedly other complications involved in their deaths as well.

    You know since you bring it up... 68,000 women die anually from unsafe abortions in third world nations where abortion is not legal, and is carried out irresponsibly. That's a little more than half. Clearly illegal abortions are more dangerous.

  • keep abortion safe and legal!

  • Women have been having abortions since before christ. There are herbal tinctures that are used to abort a fetus. Sure it makes the woman violently ill or may even kill her but a woman would not abort a child so lightly. It generally has to be so bad that they don't care about the consequences. Nobody but the individual can understand what makes women make that choice. But it is a choice and it is theirs to make.

  • kamik:It generally has to be so bad that they don't care about the consequences. Nobody but the individual can understand what makes women make that choice. But it is a choice and it is theirs to make. Its nice to see someone with a head on their shoulders that uses it! Keep up the good work!

  • "...in a back alley with a coat hanger hanging out of her vagina..." Really funny.

  • FARR: I've heard so many stories of women who've had an abortion,and then pay a hefty price for it. I HEARD you were an idiot ...is THAT true

  • the easiest method of stopping abortion would be to only allow sex for reproductive purposes. if you don't want a child don't have sex. it's that easy. but then what will we do with all that viagra and penis enhancement treatments.

    p.s. maybe you'd get you point across better if you didn't look and sound like you're on drugs.

  • here's a real life situation:

    a 12 year old girl got pregnant after being raped by her uncle. her parents found out about the pregnancy when she was in her 12th week. the doctors concluded that the pregnancy wouldn't affect her physical health but that she wasn't mentally fit to be a mother. luckily her parents took her to have an abortion. and she's now recovering from her trauma.

    bottom line is there are situations and situations. it's easy to shout ignorant remarks like "abortion is murder".

  • Statistically, abortion is less than 1/10th as likely to kill a woman as childbirth in first-world nations. In nations where abortion is illegal, medical standards are much lower and mortality rates are significantly higher.

    Johns Hopkins recently released a comparative study of 29 comprehensive, accredited mental health studies and has affirmed the findings of the Alan Guttmacher Institute AND the WHO, all of which have concluded that abortion is NO more mentally damaging than childbirth.

  • Do you know the statistics about how many women die during childbirth?? I'll tell you, it's FAR more dangerous than having an abortion. You have no idea what it means to be pregnant, and how that effects a woman's life. And you sound like you're doing a

    middle school presentation.

  • "...and how that effects a woman's life."

    There's that life word again.

    Affecting, isn't it?

  • matter of fact i had toxicmia and they told me if they didnt take the baby out then i was going to die my liver started to shut down and i was going to die. but guess what the year is 2008! and that stuff can be prevented and it can be treated.. and i had my son 6 weeks early hes home now and im great! now u sound like ur doing a miiddle school presentation. and i know all the ins and outs of being pregnant and it is beautiful and the most amazing thing on this earth.

  • "Who cares?"- I care. Yes, as a pro-lifer I agree with you that "They are murdering their OWN children". However, if we value the sanctity of human life, then we must also value the life of the mother as well. The two are not mutually exclusive. A woman does not deserve a death sentence for killing a child. Would you support capital punishment for women who have abortions and don't die as a result?

  • I personally view that if a crime is severe enough, then that person who perpetrated the crime should be punished and not let off on bail. It sends a very bad message when people get away with "murder" (pardon the pun) and they get light sentences for criminal activities that deserve to get capital punishment or life imprisonment.

  • "I hate pro choicers, they don't even have good come backs".

    HA. Scathing. Got anything else?

    This guy hasn't actually quoted anything reputable on the internet that we can refer to in order to back up his little spill that redefined inarticulate.

    Anyway. I'm going to cut to the chase.

    (Note: I'm not trying to be an elitist prick, honest).

    BUT. As a medical student, you should take my word for it over his. This guy has NFI and his claims are about as credible as Sarah Palin.

  • You completely discredit your arguement by your last comments. Any insult will only downgrade what you are trying to put across and secondly, there are at least 87 medical students that I know that disagree with your findings.

  • 87? That's quite a number! Pfft. I'm flattered that you conducted a survey in order to TRY and prove me wrong. But to clarify, they aren't MY findings. Furthermore, I don't need your approval, I've actually done the research and already know I'm right. So. I recommend that you and, supposedly, these 87 medical students care to read what the WHO, the UN etc have to say on the matter.

    It's not the moral arguments put forward that piss me off so much as that this guy hasn't got the facts right.

  • Such an asshole. He doesn´t know what he is talking about. He want to decided if a woman should die or not even if her life is in danger. Poor guy...he just said what he has been told to say. God bless you boy.

  • 1)You're full of it, far more women die from illegal abortions than legal ones.

    2) No procedure is 100% safe, those women knew that. Fact is, they would rather run the risk of death.

    3) I don't see many pro-lifers offering to adopt all these kids that you just assume will find homes.

    Ps. I love that you think your opinion counts when you'll never have to make this decision yourself. Probably cos you will never get laid when you think you have the right to dictate what women do with their bodies.

  • i totally agree

    and in all honesty

    women (up until the 20's) were dictated by men like you who told them what to do and what not to do

    any surgery has risks

    just because we have a vagina doesn't mean were stupid

    and you dont know the conditions of the women getting these abortions

    a womens body is her business and theres no reason to interfere in the choices they decide to make

    take things into consideration it'll make you a more well-rounded person

  • Not all women wish to murder their unborn children and neither do some of these women, like myself, mind a wise word from a gentleman such as the one in this video. I'd rather hear advice from him, than from a man with a shady past and connections like Barack Obama - who not only happens to support infantcide (abortion), but also approves of sexually corrupt people legalizing their actions and has connections to confirmed terrorist, Bill Ayers.

  • First off, you cant murder something that hasn't been born yet. Second, if you don't want to get an abortion, then don't! It's pro-CHOICE not pro-lets kill out the species.

  • Regardless if a human being is born or not - as long as its alive and growing, then it IS a living person that if you end its life - you are effectively killing it.

  • Abortion is legalized Murder! the abortionist is a professional killer of babies. They choose to call it a service? or a choice? but actually its a choice to kill human beings at the service of baby mills. Truth;

  • Keep on truckin' dude!  Pro-choice = poor choice.

  • Thank God you are telling the truth. I am a woman! Real women loathe abortion.

  • Yeah, real women in a commune. Stop talking you ignorant human being.