"Chasing UFO's on the River" Bob Talks About His Life After Seeing the Object May 15, 2009

[BrianMeter]

Check out my first video

[JDPackard]

guys like this will some day be called heros.....not crazy!!!

[skinnymonkey213]

Better regret talking to CBS. They see everythiiiing.

[Dubfender]

people who argue on youtube are just the coolest....

[clnmyjts]

I drove threw needles 2 months ago.

It is a beautiful place to visit..

[seeingUFOsPA]

This is why DISCLOSURE is needed. This poor guy only told WHAT HE WITNESSED and has been ridiculed because of the conditioning of the public to think all UFO reports are by kooks--perpetrated by government officials to squash people telling each other what's happening.

[FAX335]

I have 8 degrees. And I have dated a multitude of coeds - many of whom I have shown around the White House and an Area 51 bunker on a moonlit night. As for Mr. sacha4you, I regret to inform you that he is actually a Chinese acrobat participating in a cultural exchange program and is currently providing complimentary zoological maintenance at an undisclosed location. He's a real nice little fella though, and we may not send him back, although, we may have to take his computer away.

FAX

[murphybm]

Before any of you decide to write a book, I would implore you to find a very thorough and dedicated editor. You will need it.

[sacha4you]

murphybm, I hate to tell you, but you are completly wrong. As a graduated engineer I can recognize, how scientific, mathmatical and technological knowledge of our western civilisation is crumbling and decaying. Creationism, superstition, ufo/exology, numerology, astrology will rule people's minds in the near future of virtual reality where everthing gos. I have a similar thred here:

watch?v=mf8UHS2T1hc

So we have passed the point of no return.

Welcome in the medival dark ages again!

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[1freedomfighter11]

lol we are still in the medival dark ages, we never left them because very few people think for themselves, very few people challenge the BS being taught to them, the current explanations sound plausible so are not questioned. I will ask you again how can the moon remain in orbit for 4.5 billion years and have gravity involved? This is impossible unless another force is at work. your comment is so backwards that for your sake i hope it was a joke?

[sacha4you]

1freedomfighter11, well a rigig mass orbiting another is in a force-equilibrium between the Newtonian gravitational force Fg=G·m·M\r² and the zentripetal force

Fz=v²\r (Fg=Fz) Without other forces, the integral of the vectorial sum of forces and distance yields zero, hence no energy is exchanged. Such a motion would go for an infinite time. Since this explication involves Newton's laws, I'd susggest, you replaced it against beliefs in magical forces - and you have your plausibility.

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[1freedomfighter11]

C part 3: and not flat galaxies. Clearly newtons law of object in motion tend to stay in motion apply to objects with zero forces applied on them. Most of the tidal effects seen on the Earth are caused by the Moon's gravitational pull, clearly there is a gravitational force present that tells us that the moon should not remain in our orbit for 4.5 billion years, and then they say the moon is moving away, that is the opposite of gravity sach, start using your head please.

[1freedomfighter11]

C part 2: thus i hesitate to say orbit because without this other fundamental force that Einstein missed there would be no orbits period. The moon would have been part of the planet a long time ago, i assume you believe in the big bang, think of it as a shotgun blast with only a attracting force of gravity and no other forces you just have one direction until collision, not spiraling galaxies, not orbits,

[1freedomfighter11]

C part 1: BS, again you quote outdated text books that actual make no sense what so ever if you took the time to understand it and not just quote it. At least you believe that perpetual motion is possible as we do see this in orbits as well as atoms and in superconductors. All you are not taking into account is the gravitational force between the moon and the planet,

[murphybm]

Sacha4you, I hate to tell you, but I was subtly mocking your grammar, not your content. It's a nightmare. Also, before you go bragging about your engineering degree, you may want to recognize that your inabilities as a communicator reflect poorly on your abilities as an engineer. And yes, I am an engineer. And yes, I have three degrees.

[1freedomfighter11]

tell them how it is houseboat Bob f them suppressing cock suckers. You suppressing basters realise that the planet is dieing and you go with it as well as your friends and family, are you truly so blinded by greed that you don't realize you cant take it with you? I know your just doing your job like Hitlers goons right? F U, yeah, yeah smile and forget about it, ignorance is bliss right?

[WeCanAllGetAllong]

Even hitler had the hanabeau 2 anti gravity flying machine...and tech now has progressed we should see more and more. And even as in the caves painted on the walls there were ufo's,and might date back 10,000 yrs. Thres even ufo's in the bible...just check it out.Ezekiel 1 vs 4 and 3 vs 13

Who knows,we might just have space stations in the rings of saturn by now!

Tech has been doubling since at least tesla,every three years,well where did it all go...one might wonder.Black ops and outerspce

[1freedomfighter11]

i cant wait for the truth to come out so all the idiots snickering can eat there pathetic closed minded moronic comprehensions. They are so stupid i am surprised they can tie there own shoe laces. MORONS,

[sacha4you]

1freedomfighter11, LOL! I wouldn't hold my breath, since you can wait at least a couple of centuries. Your posts reveal, you can neither handle the truth and it's implications, nor are you eligible for any real knowledge, that were below FOIA-regulations. So I'd suggest be modest, plug in a godemichet, contract your sphincter musle and believe, you had a mind-enlighting alien-probe inserted.

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[1freedomfighter11]

lmao, another person that has done NO research on the subject, or is COMPLEET MORON. Watch the disclosure project by Dr Steven Greer where over 500 now Military X Military, NASA, X NASA and many other top officials have come forth for idiots like you that needed them to. Hey well your at it why not go look at a crud version of there technology right in one of your Bibles, i mean one of your precious science articles (Wingless Electromagnetic Aerial Vehicle.) YOU MORON.

[sacha4you]

1freedomfighter11, wow! I like victims who babble ufoisms and jump on quick conclusions - particularly when they are so miseducated (more polite than brainwashed) they claim to know more about me, than myself. Greer's 'disclosure' project consists mainly of self proclaimed high ranking official, who tell utter nonsense, that can be easily disproved by historical and physical facts. The real officials however confirm simply UFO-mass sightings. This way, credibility of the show is increased. ...

[sacha4you]

... (ff 2) Then, my favorite subject is to eat alive UFO-crazies, who claim having 'knowledges' (quotes intended) about electromagnetism (EM) and gravitation (G). So it's well known, G is a monopolar attractive force. This force can only interact with itself or gravito-electromagnetism (GEM) - what is a dipolar force. EM can not interact with G - as numerous experiments showed. Einstein failed for this reason to complete Unified Field theory. Hence you utter wingless nonsense.

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[1freedomfighter11]

Begats you are a MORON, you did not even look it up? You thought you learned it all when you closed your last text book of lies i guess? GO LOOK UP THE WEAV, at least lets argue about something you are informed about, well your at it look up Dark matter, Dark energy, The reverse casimir affect and monoatomic gold and strepulstion, perhaps them we can have a learned conversation? And not just spout outdated text books?

[sacha4you]

1freedomfighter11, I knew you are not as stupid as you sounds. 'WEAV' is a acronom for completly other concept than

claims about EM propulsion. It's based on MHD (magnetohydrodynamics), what means, within atmosphere ionized air sheet (plasma) surrounding the craft should be accelerated by magnetical forces. Sounds nice - but is all but efficient. (0.1-0.3g/W) EHD-thrusters achieve 2-5g/W, helicopters 100g/W, and gravitomagnetic drives need zero power for lift, but consume ... (ff)

[1freedomfighter11]

part 2: consider that Boyd Bushman a top scientist at Lockheed and martin knows what he is talking about, consider that we would not have an atmosphere period if it where not for this unacknowledged field of energy. I will explain more later for now if you have time please look up dark energy, dark matter, consider this field may be present in all atoms or mass such as gravity.

[1freedomfighter11]

part 1: Ok i am going to apologies for being mean, it really gets us no where, we can both learn form each other in arguments so I apologize. I believe there explanation for the WEAV is false or just not completely understood, i am glad you took the time to look it up. Now consider the ion lifter may have worked in a vacuum contrary to myth busters pathetic attempt,

[1freedomfighter11]

Ok bud I will explain at least 2 lies in your text books now among many lol. The law of thermodynamics, a law should apply to everything right? there should be no exceptions or it is not a law right? Inside an atom there is a constant spin (perpetual motion) there is no entropy nor input of energy and it puts out electromagnetism (energy.)All things are made of this over unity. Now i will explain to you how orbits are really much like we see with this perpetual motion of electrons inside an atom

[sacha4you]

1freedomfighter11, LOLLOLLOL ROFL! Your perception of laws of thermodynamics is so breathtaking, if I were the jumping-jack minister of your country, I'd nominate you for the golden alien-probe!

Honestly, have you ever took a look at Newton? 'A mass keeps it's direction and velocity, as long as no forces are applied. This is valid for the translational and the rotational case.' Hence the bodies kinetic energy is conserved. And no, electron's do not radiate away EM-power, otherwise...

[1freedomfighter11]

sach please think before you post, yes atoms put out EMF, and you are forgetting they tell us there is a gravitational force between the planet and the moon therfore there should not be continual orbit after 4.5 billion years as they say, like i said look up dark matter and dark energy and you will see the solution or answer to this problem. PS, they also tell us the moon is moving away because of tidal bulge, lmfao, like i said look up dark mater and dark energy. this force is in all atoms.

[sacha4you]

1freedomfighter11, as already mentioned, you should publish your beliefs! You could earn millions of US$ within weeks, if you published a phyical conspiracy book, when you released all your shocking secret beliefs, 'they' tell us and how 'they' manipulate our minds, that we have a complete different perception of every physical observation and even all physical lab materials are manipulted by 'them' in a manner, billions of studens learn the wrong things. Then, found a church and get rich!

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[1freedomfighter11]

Orbits, objects in motion tend to stay in motion right? Thus there explanation of the moon rotating the planet right, UNLUSS another force is at work. There is gravity present therefore the moon should not maintain its orbit for the said 4.5 billion years. This requires another field at work. This field is present in all objects that are not ionised, orbits are an attraction and a repulsion or there would be no orbits period, nor flat galaxies no spiraling galaxies.

[sacha4you]

(ff 2) ... they would lose momentum (angular volocity) and smashed into the nucleus. So the radiated photon is captured before it's release - what can be observed in the Fermionic statistics, aka Pauli's exclusion principle.

In planetary movement's, the vectorial sum of forces (orbital integral dW=F·ds) during a revolution is zero. Hence conservation of momentum and 1LTD is fully maintained.

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[1freedomfighter11]

C part 4: they will discover a slight plasma filed around electrical generators one day as well, this is because they are a continually feed system NOT a closed loop as they would have you believe, the magnetism combined with the high spin state excites the air molecules and ejects electrons that are added to the system.

Even Tesla said electrical generators where variable NOT a constant.

[sacha4you]

1freedomfighter11, wow! You must be so intelligent and educated - and all electrical engineers on this planet must be permanantly blindfolded, they'd not even recognize 'a slight plasma field around generators' and a discrepancy in energy-balance. And energy-variability of generators is even a more ultra-shocking secret. So I'd immadiatly publish this incredible shocking-secret knowledge and apply for the Nobel Price, since you are the first man who replaced physics against beliefs.

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[1freedomfighter11]

lol people (electrical engineers) go to school to be such and are taught plausible explanations that are excepted as gospel fact, they do what they have to do to get there degree. But when you try to understand how and why you see such things as my battery gaining 4 volts (16 volts charge) from such things as my water fuel cell has done you try to understand it and think about it to explain to others, this is called thinking for ones self not stating OPINIONS and outdated text books.

[sacha4you]

1freedomfighter11, I'm a graduated electrical engineer. I'm so shocked by your incredible wisdom, you should really publish new physics books for believers! Indeed, we should replace science against beliefs again, since the stronger the people's beliefs grow, the truer the things will get.

And the power of belief can overpower even nuclear power-plants.

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[1freedomfighter11]

part 4: That should take electrons away from supposedly closed loop. Also you can take a generator ungrounded and continually charge battery's this is adding electrons into the battery yet the generator maintains. of course in a truly closed system like a battery we see what we would expect, halving out of the pd.

[sacha4you]

1freedomfighter11, your visionary knowledge is simply overwhelming. In the light, classical technology and science is no longer needed in western civilisation (electronics is imported from China and oil comes from OPEC) we will have indeed a bright future of superstition. The more open minded people become, the more will move. Yes, everything goes, when you believe in it. The reason, things like creationism, ufo/exology, numerology, astrology, alchemy will rule our thinking soon.

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[1freedomfighter11]

Why not let facts and common sense rule instead of the rubbish spewed to us in text books?

[sacha4you]

1freedomfighter11, I agree completly. We can save trillions of dollars, when we stopped scientific education burned textbooks and replaced all scientists against people like you, who felt, they had the best common sense and strongest beliefs. Great idea, indeed!

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[1freedomfighter11]

B part 3: Q Under Bush, "most of the time, ideological concerns trumped science," Teich says. "Non-scientists over-ruling scientists re-writing reports, changing positions the administration didn't like to those that ran counter to the vast consensus of scientific research, omitting findings that were inconvenient, facts that were made up these kinds of things were rampant."Q

Please don't tell me that you don't know this to be true sach.

[1freedomfighter11]

B part 2: How about updating it with real information instead of trying to change the facts to keep people like Newton and Einstein always right. Data does not have to make sence, it just has to be truthful, this is more important than proving Einstein or Newton right or wrong, i suggest you go watch the war on cold fusion, and look up this article, these things did not just happen under the bush administration.

[sacha4you]

1freedomfighter11, the best thing you can do is to believe.

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[1freedomfighter11]

part 2: We need to move ahead, not be suppressed. advancements that could have been discovered sooner rather than later could very well save the entire race one day. But i can see how that would work on some good people to help keep it hushed up (telling them it must be kept secret.)

[sacha4you]

1freedomfighter11, as mentioned, the best mean to help us (and your country) is, when you support mainstream conspiracy claims, believe in your virtual world of physics, and produce books and videos about - like Searl, Perendev, Fouche, Violette, Hoaxland, Freakmen, Lizard, and hundreds of other people do it. So you can even earn a lot of money and we can do our job. Remember, you have not even a dim idea, what's really going on, and this won't change for the next centuries.

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[1freedomfighter11]

part 2: and asked for nothing in return at griffinsofdawnDOTcom, forums, general section, page 5,6, or 7 now titled free energy source.

Why not do the work so you know what you are talking about instead of making your self look like some brainwashed fool

[1freedomfighter11]

part 1: See thats where your logic fails you, i have seen anti gravity with my OWN WORK, i have seen over unity with my OWN WORK. You have your OPINION, NOTHING more, and your opinion come from controlled information dictated to you. You can view my three years of work that i shared FREELY,

[1freedomfighter11]

C part 1: How about real science, real updating of information, NOT suppression, not fake mad up science to site the needs and wants of people in power. not science constructed to keep us suppressed and enslaved, how about real science.

[sacha4you]

1freedomfighter11, there are things, that are kept away from you, since people like you are far not ready for these things (too dangerous). So trust your govt. They do the right things for your physical and mental health.

Advanced knowlodge however does not invalidate existing knowledge. It's extended. So the fore mentioned Newtonian equations are absolute correct within their applicable realms and answer your question. And about realwordy advanced physics, I won't discuss with you.

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[1freedomfighter11]

part 1: Well finally you are right about something, i sense some sarcasm though lol. The government does keep stuff from us and they do tell the white hats it is for our own good, that's a load of rubbish though, they are holding us back, it could very well be to the detriment of the entire race.

[sacha4you]

1freedomfighter11, you shouldn't really care about things we do not release to you. I'm not here to explain the reasons to full lenghts, but you have to accept, there are technologies that can release such mindboggling amounts of energy, they fall under international treaties like the NPT. Unless you have an apporpriate security clearance a need to know and a suiatable education, you are simply not eligible for this knowledge. No matter if you did handstands in front of the UN building.

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[1freedomfighter11]

B part 4: that have killed people that try to get to far with there information the sooner the world can advance and evolve. And being that you are an electrical engineer you should know how battery's truly work, and you should know what i have just said is fully correct. in fact over unity is hidden right in front of us with battery's. They had battery's once that lasted a life time.

[1freedomfighter11]

B part 3: and free electrons will flow toward the positively charged ions in the capacitor due to there negative charge and be used as a current. This is how thunder and lightning works, the amount of ions will dictate the voltage. Very safe clean natural over unity energy. The sooner off EVERYONE realizes that big oil, big money is the real people that have what they want put in text books,

[1freedomfighter11]

B part 2: An example is what i would consider to be harnessing lightning, there is no reason why we cant take solid state ions put them in the center of a sort of capacitor, have a ground wire and an outer liquid to contain the electrons and reuse them,

[1freedomfighter11]

B part 1: Yes there are things we may not be ready for yet, but there also clean, very efficient energy's that they are keeping from us, like i said I have seen and done the work myself. There is no reason to keep these from us other than power and control.

[1freedomfighter11]

part 3: I love how we have electron into heat transfer that should render some electrical lines to failure but never do unless its a battery ( a real closed loop system.) I love how an electrical line can frap on the ground spewing out electrons and turn around and be hooked back up and work like nothing is wrong.

[1freedomfighter11]

part 2: how about how good your memory is that you seem to thing is how much you know as fact. I love how you guys explain the ping pong ball explanation that pops out the end, but never explain where the next electron comes from and the next one,

[1freedomfighter11]

part 1: so you memorized some text books? Am i supposed to be impressed? have you made any new discovery's that you would like to share are you trying to make any advancements in science or just like to go around squawking

[sacha4you]

1freedomfighter11, once again: Publish your ideology, collect believers, form a grass root movement - and you can establish a complete new scientific religion, that will humanity lead from the dark knowledge into the bright future of occultism! The more open minded you are and the more you believe, the more you can even convince electrons to follow your mind-power - and not longer cables!

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[1freedomfighter11]

Consider the facts I have stated. The only scientific religion around here is coming from wannabe scientists like you. NEVER forget science is the accumulation of updated information NOTHING more. I now you do not believe in the Searl affect obviously because your brainwashing is extensive but if you fee your self for a moment you will understand there is a plasma field reported around it because of excited are molecules ejecting electrons that get added to that system(over unity.)

[sacha4you]

1freedomfighter11, I agree completly. I've got my graduation as a electrical wannbe-engineer, and my knowledge is sadly limited by laws of physics - while the world-famous Prof. Prof. Dr. Dr. Dr. R. R. Searl stated 'nothing is impossible - only the mind make the limits'. And when your belief is strong enough, then every air molecule will be excited by your belief-energy and get rid from it's electrons. And when YOU reportalleged 'plasma field' (must be a new term) then you have mental overunity.

[sacha4you]

1freedomfighter11, forgot to ask you: Why do you not become a member in Prof. Prof. Dr. Dr. Dr. R. R. Searl's marketing staff. Then you could spread the Searl effect belief around the world by selling SEG-videos. These sales generated enough income to the Searl company, they could create weakly a new episode on DVD about the SEG, what would generate overwhelming amounts of belief energy - for the next centuries.

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[1freedomfighter11]

part 4: you just have to much faith in science that is controlled by people that want you to know what they want you to know and NOTHING more. Oh and then there is the obvious, only a complete moron would try to push information like this, spend thousands on pattens and know full well they could go to jail for fraud. really man please start to use your head a bit, you seem like a sort of intelligent person, just a bit of a prude that is stuck in 100 year old text book lies.

[1freedomfighter11]

part 3: and guess what, they have reported a plasma field around them as well as well as my work shows an anti gravity field. This is the repeatable evidence you cats always cry for but when done independently say well it has not based the almighty per review panels so it can be real. it is very real and shown to you,

[1freedomfighter11]

part 2: the electrons that run these cars comes from water, this is not a closed loop of electrons, the Searl affect just takes the electrons from the excited air molecules, these electrons are added to the system, this is why there was a plasma field reported around it. And they are not the first systems to report what they call zero point energy, there are a few others,

[1freedomfighter11]

part 1: lol, i don't mean to be mean to you but you clearly can not think for your self can you? All it takes to consider that the Searl affect is real, is a few simple thoughts and studies. Number 1 that electrical systems can be a continually feed system, this is clearly evident know in electric cars that are shown to us in concept cars that are very officiant,

[1freedomfighter11]

C part 3: dang lost my post sry not retyping it :( unless you want to learn or here more.

[sacha4you]

... (ff 2) lift-power (P=mgv) and acceleration-power (P=mv²/2) with about 97% efficiency. Of coarse, I could tell you many things you ever wanted to know, but never dared to asked (e.g. what's about dark matter/energy, sun-spots, solar-corona, aneutronic direct-electricty conversion-fusion and other things around a particular flavour of a MDQP (multidimensional quantum physics), but I don't think, you wouldn't understand the math behind, and I won't tell you about technology.

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[1freedomfighter11]

B part 3: Would you like me to teach you how the law of thermodynamics can easily be proven wrong, how the pathetic explanation of orbits is wrong? i can quite simply, it's rather obvious actually to anyone that can think for themselves.

[1freedomfighter11]

B part:: 2 ionising the water contrary to what you text books say about the electrons (covalent bonds) returning to the hydrogen atom. Oh and if you need conformation of such things again in one of you precious science articles check out self sputtering although there explanation is a tad wrong.

[1freedomfighter11]

B part: 1 Well mate I can tell you I have doubled my fuel mileage with a negatively charged water fuel cell, this excites the atoms, ejects electrons, creates HHO as well as an ion/plasma energy source, this only requires small burst of positive charge (Over Unity.) the electrons will drain out the negative towards the positively charged ions in the battery due to the negative electron, positive ion attraction,

[1freedomfighter11]

ps, i will be back in a day or so, great conversation, i hope we both may learn a few things.

Peace.

[1freedomfighter11]

ps, i bet you are one of those idiots that believe everything that is dictated to you in text books to right? Do you think that NASA's explanations of orbits are true? Do you think the law of thermodynamics is real? I an tear them both apart in 2 posts here, now how can I do this? Because I can think for my self and am not a brainwashed idiot like yourself.

[sacha4you]

1freedomfighter11, I can tell you only, I'm really happy, your govt is wise enough to keep away dangerous knowledge from you. To relief you from your concerns, I do not 'believe' what a textbook tells. I need a proof to validate any claims. Fortunately, such poofs are regularly provided in scientific world. In ufology, astrology, numerology, scientology and other pseudosciences, however, there are only claims and beliefs, since followers are too uneducated to look behind the curtains.

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[theatlantean2]

@1freedomfighter11 : AMEN to that. I totally agree with you on that one.

[bigmikey1979]

seems to be choosing his words carefully.

[kessmypersainass]

WOW

[ufohomebase]

Great post mate 500000*****

[woodstocknow]

I`m interested in his "other meetings",now he seemed very tight lipped,maybe he`s just had enough ridicule but maybe more than that he`s met those "men in black"..we never did see the road side george Knap encounter with those guys that was scheduled for next video story ! hmmmm

[GoldieTalon]

these backwoods "salt of the earth" types really dont help out the ufo cause overall, but does make one wonder...what does this guy have to gain by lying?

So, we conclude then it must be 2 things, either they seen something odd, or seen something they simply misidentified...

because you know they wont be writing a book about it...so there goes potential capitalistic reasons...the dirty workman truck behind him says alot about him, unless he is making a alien fishing lure of course.

nice1