The Atomic Age

[CiaoBello21]

Newt Gingrich says hail to the atom bomb. Your choice.

[chaco916]

OMG!! Do people really have any clue what you are talking about, like the historical context of all this, and the beyond-profound moral implications and consequences? eeg10 speaks of JRO's "overly dramatic expression and the hint of a smirk, it's obvious that the cold war was fun times for scientists and politicians." eeg10 is kidding, right, I hope? Isn't it obvious that JRO is heartbroken about the monster he has helped to create--and which will eventually destroy him, and maybe us?

[bigmoemiami]

Elect Newt Gingrich as your president and this scenario is likely to occur.

[PoptartInvasion]

I don't know if there is anyone in all of human history that I pity more than that man, using his brilliance to guide our country to what he thought would be a decisive end to that war, only to live the rest of his life in fear, shame, and guilt for the terrible power he had unleashed upon the world. The only way I can imagine to truly honor his memory is the steps being taken to dismantle all nuclear arsenals. I imagine he would be grateful beyond words. I wished he had lived to see it...

[68ootani]

オッペンハイマーが、ヴァガバット・ギータの一節を読みながら涙­するも、焼き殺された２６万人の非戦闘員、老人・婦女子・幼児、­の数々はそれを如何に聞く事だろうか。中性子線が生体を貫き、骨­髄を破壊し、数千度の放射熱は、女子供の生身の体を蒸発させた。­強烈な放射線は、骨髄や遺伝子を破壊し、その為に後になって、多­くの死者がでた。人間の戦争の歴史は長い。この原子兵器は、破壊­と滅亡を司る、究極の破壊兵器である。人間は、数々の残虐行為を­してきたが、それは殺人と破壊を好む特殊な人々が行う事であると­、考えてきた人は多かろうが、原子兵器は人間の中でも知能の比較­的高い知的エリートにより開発された。そこに、根源的な危機と絶­望がある。殺人と破壊を好む軍隊が、、科学者を高給で使い始める­発端となった。パンドラの箱を開けてしまった、科学は、これから­先、攻撃性という人間の狂気を、是正する方法を探究するべきだろ­う。

[hr1100]

This bomb is stupid, it can't destroy worlds, thousands of bombs went off in test during the Cold War. It just pollutes and burns, nothing more.

[eeg10]

@hr1100 There are enough nuclear warheads in the world to nuke every major city in the world twice. Besides, no one has ever detonated that many nuclear weapons simultaneously, in fact, given innovations in thermonuclear devices, people can achieve upwards to above 100 megatons of explosive force. If all nukes were to be detonated simultaneously in a concentrated manner, there is a chance that we could create an event similar to the KT extinction event. However, this is all hypothetical.

[eeg10]

@hr1100 No one has actually tried detonating every nuclear weapon at once so there may be many factors that such an event can trigger that we just don't know. For instance, that many could vastly change weather patterns, could shift earth's magnetic field, could incinerate the ozone layer and cause earth to burn up, could cause earthquakes and tsunamis due to tectonic shifting, cause vast clouds of irradiated debris to circulate the earth, and honestly, kill off MOST of the human population.

[eeg10]

@hr1100 Considering nuclear devices run on the same principle that powers the sun, the most powerful observed phenomenon that humans currently know exists. There is nothing stupid or remotely stupid about nuclear weapons. This is the result of years of innovations in quantum mechanics and nuclear chemistry. Far from stupid in my opinion. Also, if the entire world becomes polluted, it is technically destroyed and made uninhabitable.

[eeg10]

@hr1100 You realize that any weapon deadlier than a nuclear warhead, would be unfathomable right? That the end result would be that one weapon could annihilate literally the entire planet, i.e. turn it into a new asteroid belt. Other than for scientific edification, there would be absolutely no interest or purpose to create such a weapon. Nuclear weapons are deadly enough.

[hr1100]

@eeg10 "Tsar bomba" was the most powerful weapon detonated - 50MT. Look it up on google earth, you'll see a virtual marking of the blast radius. Notice the surrounding environment - without the virtual marking it's practically indistinguishable. Now press the ZOOM OUT button and gain a proper sense of scale of just how amazing huge the planet is. Keep in mind that is the most powerful weapon EVER made and ever detonated. The Americans' maximum achievement was less than 10 i think.

[eeg10]

@hr1100 Watch the documentary about the nuclear race, the tar bomb was a scaled down version and just 1 nuclear warhead. Russia still maintains over 2000 nuclear warheads, with the capability of building more and bigger versions of the tsar bomb. The fact is , nobody knows what will happen, if the amount of irradiated dirt now circling the earth is enough to kill everyone. The fact is, if even 95 percent of the human population is wiped out, that is practically annihilating the world.

[hr1100]

@eeg10 Tsar bomba radius of destruction is somewhere around 35km, Earth's dry area is: 1.4894*10^8. So to destroy just the dry surface area of the planet, you need to synchronize a total of ~38701.285 Tsar Bombas evenly distributed around the dry areas of the planet, going off all at the same time. Even this won't destroy life, soon plants will grow again, most of the smaller animals will survive it, maybe even humans on the periphery of the explosions.

[eeg10]

@hr1100 A large event like that doesn't have to cover a lot of surface area to be deadly. Consider the crater from the asteroid that supposedly killed the dinosaurs for instance. It was only 180 km wide but it had about a 900 meter deep crater. It doesn't take blanketing the world with nuclear weapons to create adverse effects that were unforeseen. Besides, you don't really know what would happen in such a situation.

[eeg10]

@hr1100 I'm not saying we would kill ourselves either. In fact, I agree that politicians are smart enough to not use the bomb in any circumstance. I was just positing hypothetical consequences that could result from this hypothetical situation. No one really knows for sure what it would be like.

[hr1100]

@eeg10 And this is just dry land. Most of life on Earth is in the seas, they make 70% of the planet. Though, knowing how expensive, hard, labor-demanding this is, just attempting to do it we'll all die from starvation - you won't need weapons to all humans.

So you see, the moron in the video is a fear-monger. He's a one time show quoting random bullshit from religious books. His extreme ego is only surpassed by the quality of the nonsense he's spilling.

[hr1100]

@eeg10 A total nuclear war won't end life, it won't raise the temperature or "burn" the ozone layer. It will just kill many humans very fast, destroy some cities and that is it. Instead of having wars that last many years and carpet bombing cities with hundreds of thousands of conventional bombs, mankind will have quick wars that will end with the destruction of the Capitals. Doubt any will last more than a year.

[eeg10]

@hr1100 You never actually know what would happen. The situation could be analagous to that of a spear versus the effect of pins distributed over a wide surface area. A high enough concentration of nuclear warheads in a short amount of time could create unexpected effects. Nuclear weapons are different from conventional weapons in that you cannot measure the extent of a nuclear weapon's destruction simply by measuring the surface areas and dividing by the surface area of a nuclear blast.

[eeg10]

@hr1100 You have to take into account that the tsar bomb was a scaled down version of a bigger atomic weapon, meaning humans have the capabilities to build even larger weapons. Also, the radius you included only means all people in that vicinity will instantly die, not taking into account irradiated areas. The amount of irradiated dirt displaced by a nuclear weapon is vast, consider chernobyl for instance and chernobyl was not even the result of a nuclear warhead.

[eeg10]

@hr1100 Doubt any would last more than a few hours.

[hr1100]

@eeg10 Much, much worse has happened to this planet in the past. Ranging from all-apocalyptic meteorites hitting Earth and wiping "all life", to supervolcanos that raised so much ash, it brought winter. We're pretty small and silly, we can't kill ourselves that easily. Even with USA's 2000+ warheads and Russia's arsenal. Now, a strong virus, this could easily wipe everything without causing all that radiation, heat and dust. :)

[eeg10]

@hr1100 Who knows, perhaps nuclear radiation would cause the mutation and evolution of some dangerous and highly resilient pathogen that would kill off the entire human species. Everything is uncertain as to what could happen in such an unlikely situation.  Remember that this speech was made during the Cold war, when things back then, as to how politicians may treat the subject, was very uncertain and at times, frightening. Today, it's much different, although the fear lingers.

[hr1100]

@eeg10 By Oppenheimer's overly dramatic expression and the hint of a smirk, it's obvious that the cold war was fun times for scientists and politicians. But highly irritating for the common tax payer.

The bubonic plague came about at times when people didn't knew of the Atom (unaware of microorganisms as well?) and it was deadly. If we're faced with total fallout, we'll die from the radiation and broken genetic code, not from some mutated super-organism. (cont...)

[eeg10]

@hr1100 Trust me, if a nuke falls down on a research lab, or a governing building, no one would be happy. Kennedy worked his ass of to stop the nuclear confrontation in Cuba, Oppenheimer openly campaigned against research and development of nuclear material after manhattan. Yes there may be the McCarthys and those exploiting the fear, but it was a very real fear that permeated all levels of human society. Nuclear matters are never to be taken lightly.

[hr1100]

@eeg10 (...) Actually, even the microcosmos would suffer, since ionizing radiation just kills living cells, which is life.

By pure chance, it's more likely to perish just by not washing our hands all that often and having unlimited sex (love) with everyone in the world (and the North Koreans), all that in a time of eternal peace, love, harmony, bliss. Life's duality is very nasty.

[eeg10]

@hr1100 It's really impossible to attain probabilities of what scenarios would be most likely to occur as a result because we have a very small amount of information to base estimates on. Factors such as climate change, radiation, etc. means we don't even know if the rate of death is linearly or exponenetially proportional to the number or proximity of nuclear warheads dropped. I'm just saying making conclusions off of unconfirmed hypothesis and a small data set is bad science.

[eeg10]

@hr1100 Also, this is how natural selection is supposed to work. There is an extinction event, but the extinction event does not kill every strain of an organism, certain strains have a slight resistance. By interbreeding, the resistance is strengthened and a new species is developed. That's how flu evolves each year and why people take flu shots each year. What I am saying is that there is a possibility that this could occur with radiation too, but no one has tried so no one knows for sure.

[hr1100]

@eeg10

To kill Earth and turn in into an asteroid belt, you'll need nothing less than the technology from the most daring and absurd sci-fi-fantasy films. Like "Star Wars." We're far from that. Besides, no one wants to kill Earth, that is just stupid.

[TheHeadbangerdavid]

@DriftPirateD absolutely yes ;)

[pplrelax]

Oppenheimer later created the first fall out shelter, lost the keys to the door, and locked himself in.

Legend has it, he still lives confined to his own demise ~~~~uuuooohhhhhhoooooouuuuu~~~­~

[TheHeadbangerdavid]

thumbs up if you heard this on linkin park's a thousand suns!!

[DriftPirateD]

@TheHeadbangerdavid Absolutely not.

[MaxPolej]

@OBGkhanh But there are no wars with countries which had nuclear weapons. If USA didn't discover atomic bombs war with Japan could turn into partisan war like we had in Vietnam and they'll never surrender. Cold war between USA and USSR was different with possibly agression in conventional military. 

[MaxPolej]

Nuclear bomb destroyed everything all the war strategies, all the duty of soldiers. I still cannot believe how it's possible to be incredible powerfull. But im also glad about them becouse they protect us from wars but it's a risk becouse next war may be the end of our era.

[OBGkhanh]

@MaxPolej Protect us from wars? Are you stupid? WAR is going on everywhere buddy if you haven't noticed they just don't wanna risk blowing everyone on this planet up that's about it. But there are wars still going on.

[R1ProductionHouse]

Linkin Park brought me here....thank god for them I would've never found this wonderful message..

[Ctboy679]

Hey. I am a Linkin Park fan. But if you are a intellectual. You would know this Man and his speech. And J Robert Oppenheimer knew what he was doing. He knew that to advance humans into a age of self-thoughts, we would have to do something so unforgivable that future generations would never forgive. This man. He knew this too well. He cast out all feelings of humanity, he gave his humanity up to advance ours. Yet 1/10 people don't even know his name. Remember our Prosperity. Remember to Live.

[theeviltwi9]

Atomic Rage

[paronfisk]

Isn't it fusion in stares? And fission in A-bombs?

[BrownIdol]

@paronfisk There's both. But fussion is certainly dominant. (:

[tomitstube]

such is the burden of genius. by helping harness the force known to create our universe, man immediately uses it to kill.

oppenheimer knew then what we know now, man's extinction is now fated by his own hand.

[Cromag99]

This guy must have been a riot at the office Christmas party!

[AndrewTuckr]

What a tortured man. He's visibly crying here.

[FeralRush]

Geniuses should be celebrated, not have their creations corrupted to instruments of destruction.

[rsmamodx123rs]

jornado del muerto..

[illlite]

@rsmamodx123rs "single day's journey of the dead man" I believe

[Bellavista26]

linkin park the radiance

[photonalfaboy]

im fat

[breaneainn]

I get it. To have that power with many arms, you must choose despite over failure.

[0321231321321]

Poor man

[MrDelhan]

So much sadness when he says that...........

[lpdj12]

with great power comes great responsibility, which america didn't have at any time

[harybutts]

reminds me of the g man from half life....possibly an inspiration.

[jatinder2sharma]

He was a philospher...

[Knossos22]

The atomic bombs developed during the Manhattan Project were babies compared to the “super” – the Thermonuclear Hydrogen Bombs, that followed. The thermonuclear bombs were another thousand times bigger still.

For comparison see:

media.smashingmagazine [dot com goes here] /cdn_smash/wp-content/uploads/­2010/04/nuclear-bomb.gif

There are than Twenty thousand of these weapons on the planet. There is no rational conceivable reason to ever use such a weapon. EVER!

[Knossos22]

Trinity, Hiroshima, and Nagasaki were more than one thousand times more powerful than the conventional weapons of the day “block busters” that contained 3,000 lbs. (and more) of Amatol, an explosive mixture of TNT and ammonium nitrate. Little Boy, the U235 bomb, dropped on Hiroshima exploded with the energy of 13 to 18 thousand tons of TNT (about 600 milligrams of mass was converted to energy). “Little Boy” ended the lives of approximately 140,000 people.

[MEATYOKERRable]

It must have been a punch in the stomach for this guy to realize what he had unleashed on the world. When he saw it, he protested its' use...where he was swiftly labeled a Communist sympathizer. Used, built up and then thrown away like a chump. All the while this man must have blamed himself for the madness that seemed to be carrying the world away in the 50's and 60's, and for the images the world saw from Hiroshima and Nagasaki. I'm amazed he didn't cry more.

[jackcepticeye]

This interview is chilling. His words have an immense weight and impact

[MarkLucasJr]

"Now I am become death, the destroyer of worlds."

That's gotta be the most metal thing a scientist has ever said. (granted, he was quoting someone else).

[emperorofthenorth5]

@MarkLucasJr dude, I was thinking the exact same thing

I'm putting that as an intro to one of my songs

[MarkLucasJr]

@emperorofthenorth5 Rock on out then, man. Paste it on facebook, and I'll have a listen.

[JaysanJanabel]

@MarkLucasJr Coincedence people, Linkin Park was thinking about the same idea. "Radiance" from Thousand Suns :)

[keefy99999]

splitting the atom the breaking down of actual matter is not evil it is if you use it as a weapon nuclear energy used properly is a good thing and could save humanity

[keefy99999]

we have had this technology before its what we do with it is what mattters

[ellisd2u]

I think the most unbelievable aspect about everything I know about the atomic bomb; is that when they exploded the first one 50% of all the scientists there thought that it might ignite every oxygen molecule in the Earth's atmosphere, killing everyone on the planet, and they did it anyway!!!

[ArbyWanKenobi]

Oppenheimer is the most tragic life I've ever seen. He was forced to help create the worst killing machine ever, an act he knew was reprehensible, yet did so out of patriotism and pressure, and was then cast aside and heralded as an angel of death.

R.I.P; one of the greatest minds of our time.

[elguanteloko]

I think it is pretty stupid to think of this guy as an 'angel' or even as someone who did his 'duty'. He contributed to the creation of the greatest killing machine ever made. How can a person like that be said to have done good? Germany was already defeated at the time of the drop of the bomb and Japan had long since been trying to negotiate peace which the U.S continued to refuse. He could have done what Linus Pauling did and win a Nobel Peace Prize.

[Kakkatz]

@elguanteloko "Germany was already defeated at the time of the drop of the bomb and Japan had long since been trying to negotiate peace which the U.S continued to refuse. He could have done what Linus Pauling did and win a Nobel Peace Prize. "

The whole reason the bomb was dropped in the first place was to force the Japs to surrender without losing too many causalities. The Japs refused to surrender and ONLY did so AFTER the second bomb was dropped.

[elguanteloko]

@Kakkatz Again, Japan had long been trying to surrender and negotiate peace which the U.S. refuse to hear... SEVERAL TIMES. Here is a video that illustrates this: /watch?v=YPnBadImnVQ

[Kakkatz]

@elguanteloko This is a joke. Your reference is from an anonymous lunatic who could be an anti-American. There are tons of people in the world that hate the USA and are willing to, when given the opportunity, to criticize USA's actions. I am not saying that all of the actions committed by USA are justifiable. However, the truth is that JAP refused to surrender because then they would have to give up all the territories it conquered during the war AND their Imperialism. Check your REFERENCE.

[elguanteloko]

@Kakkatz My reference is from the article the video cites.... I guess you missed it.

[Kakkatz]

@elguanteloko That video cannot be considered a reference. Like I said ... its a joke .. meaning that the person that made the video has no reputation and therefore his point of view is considered invalid. He has provided no evidence other than his own logical explanation of gathered facts. However, keep in mind that it is HIS OWN LOGICAL EXPLANATION. Had he been more reputable and provided actual evidence rather than verbally list facts, which are questionable, then I might consider his view.

[elguanteloko]

@Kakkatz I wasn't talking about taking the video as a reference, genius. I was talking about the link provided in the DESCRIPTION of the video from The Journal of Historical Review, May-June 1997 (Vol. 16, No. 3), pages 4-11.

[Kakkatz]

@elguanteloko To add to what I said before ... the Japs are world renown for their undoubted honor. After losing battles, commanders and generals are EXPECTED to suicide with their katana sword rather than surrender. In fact, no Japanese military division has ever surrendered during war. They even have kamikaze bombers fighting in the name of their Emperor. Also, if JAP surrendered then it would mean returning the territory they conquered and ending their Imperialism, the latter being granted.

[elguanteloko]

@Kakkatz What you are saying is irrelevant and destroyed by the fact that they DID surrender just that they tried to negotiate peace before Hiroshima.

[Kakkatz]

@elguanteloko To continue with what I said earlier .... with reference to the Japs' undoubted honor. The Japs were motivated at the start of the war to never surrender and only hope for a treaty. The treaty would be splitting the territory they've gained. The reason is that Japan has a small land mass and short of resources. In fact, it was rather a war for survival rather than a war to gain more territory. With this motivation, what makes you think the Japs would EVER surrender unless needed?

[elguanteloko]

@Kakkatz They did surrender, though. The "unless needed" was much before the bomb. Again, check the references in the video I linked here.

[LitterboxDiorama]

5-4-3-2-1.......Thunderbirds are GO!!!!

[LitterboxDiorama]

nnnnnn

[BLACKIESBOY]

That man is a god among humans.

[chinchonchinchon]

Oppenheimer?

I am not accusing him of doing wrong for contributing with this project, far from it. Hitler would've done it anyway, perhaps..

Too bad this power can be used to destroy ourselves. We are playing God at times...

[dumbasterd2]

when stone aged people created fire, or bow and arrow, those people must have thought tis same thing.

[IMBUED]

ummm, not likely. scared maybe. Not guilt like Oppenheimer seems to feel.

[Bloodmes]

when you let the genie out of the bottle you can't cram him back into the bottle its out good or bad we need to deal with it.

[LegendOfJomtein]

I wish someone smashed that cunts face in before he invented that. Humans are gonna kill eachother with these weapons and only those with bunkers will life.

[v3nuclear]

is a angel

[v3nuclear]

amazing !

[GeorgesBarras]

agreed. As horrible as it is to say, the bomb is greatest (that is not to say it is good) achievement. It marks teh point at which we have indeed become death, and if we wish, the destroyer of worlds.

[TAz69x]

The first moment we held our true fate in our hands.

The first time intellectual development will have to exceed our technological development; religion will have to be left to the past as it should.

[TAz69x]

lol, you're such a little pussy.

Nice bitch comment with no reasoning.

[IMBUED]

Thanks for your limitless wisdom.

[TAz69x]

I keep getting these e-mails saying I've got a new Reply. Stop that XD

[HoLOLcaust]

@GeorgesBarras Tesla actually accomplished a 'self-destruct button' for the world way before this. Ever heard of H.A.A.R.P?

[ninjafrank1337]

@HoLOLcaust didn't tesla also find a way to transmit energy with no hard connection (wires) between the source and what was being powered that no other scientist has been able to replicate?

[HoLOLcaust]

@ninjafrank1337 Yeah. He was a pretty smart guy.

[ninjafrank1337]

@HoLOLcaust drastic understatement haha

[pattyperra]

@HoLOLcaust Not smart enough to understand the natural circle of life and death. No smart enough to respect life and humanity not smart enough to understand and forgive others not smart enough to give happiness and not pain. I am sure that he understood life much more and he became smarter after having caused so much pain to other communities. So no I do not think he was such a smart person

[HoLOLcaust]

@pattyperra Then you obviously don't understand the definition of "Smart"

[nrksbullet]

@pattyperra Out of curiousity, would you kill 100 people to save 1 million people?

[Ctboy679]

@pattyperra this man wasn't just smart he was brilliant. He took on all this pain of committing human's greatest atrocity. He saw the world had no end. people would keep killing each other over and over and over. He created this. To ensure humanity would know there IS an END. He cast out his humanity to save YOURS. yet you call him dumb. He understood your point of view too. But he saw that humanity could only prosper IF we had the end in SIGHT. Now humanity advances to move away from the end.

[alex666493]

@GeorgesBarras man, as a species, has always bared the mark of death. All you need a figure of evil that all your troops can agree on and then killing becomes as easy breathing. All Oppenheimer and the crew of scientist of the Manhatan project did was streamline the process.

[Sweethands4]

@GeorgesBarras This is precisely why nukes must be exterminated from the world, otherwise mankind WILL exterminate not only our own species (which is inevitable just as an individual will die), but all life on earth. There's no way around our own extinction (mass death, far greater than the Dark Ages, is just around the corner), but we can choose the method. It's def. gonna get violent, my worry is that when it does, someone with the psychology of a suicide bomber will get access to A nuke.

[marklvrd]

@GeorgesBarras astroids hit planets at 1000x the force of a hydrogen bomb, most of the time many times greater, we cannot be the destroyer of worlds it would be like poking someone with a pin prick don't be so arrogant. All we can do is destroy ourselves.

[pgamings]

thank you.

For as far as ive seen the most relevant comment to this video.

I completely agree with you.

[Droohie]

Also, why is the planet so much more important than us? I say we demolish mother nature and show her who's boss.

[nenemarle89]

wtf?

[sweetandawesome]

We demolish mother nature; we demolish ourselves.

[D00ML0RD]

There seems little doubt that this is an inevitability for the whole of mankind. Hopefully the planet can endure once the human plague is finally eradicated.

[anutter14ever]

why dont you start by killing yourself first ?

[D00ML0RD]

Sad, silly little one. You probably think you're important.. even relevant. You are but a speck. Less than a passing thought in God's mind. Less than the faintest breath in God's ear. Go. Be. And then do not be. It makes little difference.

[KundalinaMaster]

your such a douche bag seriously although his spelling is pathetic he is right im kind of wishing you and you alone were dead right about now

[pgamings]

god doesnt excist

[billyysands]

yes but swine flu defineltey does

and i think its killing me

[5A1312EWULFX]

swine flu is a croc of liberal crap to scare the world with its doom and gloom bs. Fact is swine flu is no more dangerous than the normal flu, and not near as dangerous as something like influenza.

[TAz69x]

It's now crossed over to Class 5 pandemic status; it's not the potency of the H1N1 virus that merits its voracity, but its immunity to any current counters to protease attack mechanisms or viral counter-agents.

Even diarrhea can be fatal if left untreated, which makes any possible fatal virulent agent particularly dangerous at Class 5 status.

[anutter14ever]

please kill yourself no one loves you no one wants you your miserable and a blite on all of man kind you birth is and was and will always be pointless everyone including me wishes you were dead you are a pollution you are pawn scum a useless feeder if you died no one would care not one single person please kill yourself and make this universe a better place

[D00ML0RD]

You missed the point entirely.

[KundalinaMaster]

the only plague that exist is you and people who think like you if you and everyone like you died the world would be an amazing happy place

[D00ML0RD]

So you're all for pedophiliacs, murderers, kidnappers, rapists, child abusers and pornographers, terrorists, the janjaweed, adulterers, animal cruelty, torture, incarceration of the innocent, forced prostitution, religious persecution, the US "war on drugs", honor killings, pharaonic circumcision, those who prey on the elderly, etc etc? You have a problem with me and my opinion but these people are OK by you? I don't find it so easy to check my ethics and morals at the door.

[Droohie]

And what about the decent people? They do exist. Is their demise justifiable?

[lesblakeman]

couldn't agree more , the carbon based infestation that is the human race , worst thing that ever happened to this planet.

[KazumaR1]

Lol, I love you misanthropes, can you please stop being hypocrites and kill yourselves first? It must be terribly depressing living as something you hate so dearly.

[lesblakeman]

you must look at the bigger picture , it's not personal .

[sweeetjohnson]

..yes it IS personal .. show somw heart..

[akathasamurai]

"Mankind is a festering parasite."

-Randy Blythe

[Raitru1]

"THE DESTROYER OF WORLDS" ^.^