@bettrthanu1 glad it helped! I still play guitar but lately I've been producing a lot. I've been meaning to post another guitar lesson-thing so I'll let you know when I do homie
He seems to be starting from F when playing the first pattern which would make it Lydian #2nd. He does end on the E though. He then plays from the 5th fret (A) which makes it straight harmonic minor. Lydian #2nd and Spanish Phrygian (or phrygian dominant, same thing) are modes of harmonic minor.
@medvidmaks Same notes, but not same succesion of intervals. That means it soundsa bit different (a lot actually). Just like A minor and C major have the same notes but sound very different.
And where's the lesson in this? All you're doing is running up and down in a few positions. How about you teach some modal theory involving this particular mode when writing that in the title.
thanks man. could you do a vid on all the positions for harmonic minor?
just a little pointer, not sayin you suck or anything cause i dont knwo theory too well honestly, but you should work on your vibrato. its all in the wrist... its all in the wrist.
@CobHatecrewNor Im not too savvy on theory, but im working on it. anyway, if you play it on A then play it in B thats 2 different positions? cause you can just move your hand up the fret board and play the same pattern. am i thinking different positions as in moving it up and down the strings rather than up the fretboard chromaticly per se?
I remember I learnt scales like these from a website that has practically all of the ones you need and don't need to know. I think it's an interactive flash thing. It's pretty cool. I'm not going to say what the website is unless you ask me though.
@23445545665 There are a ton of websites that offer great information on both general music theory and guitar lessons. I'd just punch it into Google and find what website suits you best. I wish I knew a few URLs off hand but I learned all my theory through classes and never frequently looked up sites for it.
Over 11 thousand views... awesome. Glad to see this video might have helped some people along the way on the long road of music theory. It's also cool to see that this video sparked up some conversation among fellow musicians out there. Thanks everyone, everything's appreciated.
Phrygian dominant is a mode of harmonic minor. Start on the fifth note of a harmonic minor scale and play up to the octave - that's Phrygian dominant.
hey I really like that guitar (maple fretboard? looks great), does anyone know what hes using? also, when can you use a phrygian dominant? can it be used over the ii chord like regular phrygian? or over any minor progression to sound cool? lol
thanks a bunch kyuteh, im using a MM HSS strat (still loving it to this day) and to answer your question I use this mode all the time over minor progressions.
@auvik u start on the 5th note of the harmonic minor scale, and u get a phrygian dominant. if u start on the 3rd note of the harmonic minor scale u get the ionian scale with a sharp 5th. it's all just names for if u start on a certain note.
Nope, that's locrian mode. Keep the 5th natural and you have phrygian. Then raise your 3rd up a half step instead of b3 and you have your phrygian dominant scale.
I don't think so. grab a keyboard and play from b3 to b4 only white keys. thats the locrian mode, and it sounds nothing like this. he is doing a natural fifth, in the locrian the fifth is diminished, thats why it sound so odd and difficult to place it in a tonality. phrygian is playing from e3 to e4 only white keys (on a keyboard).
I was tought that in the conservatory, although maybe im wrong, Im more into tonal thinking, not modal.
Yeah...apparently your first comment (about playing w/ the keyboard) was directed towards me. I was responding to julianistkrieg. I wasn't commenting on the video itself.
yes, I know. I was trying to correct you, as the mode he is playing is not locrian, its phrygian with an alteration on a note which makes it a minor armonic really.
b4? there is no b4 in locrian. Tonal think is better anyway usually, 90 percent of fail guitarists who talk about using modes dont use them right anyway.
b4? He's talking about octave range. Like C4 is middle C. If you're in the key of C major (Ionian), B to B is locrian mode. There is a b4 in Locrian. Any note can exist in Locrian mode within the right context. You really argue about stupid shit. You know how your modes work (as anyone should) but your knowledge on common aspects of music theory is very elementary.
Oh, and yea, I have responded recently because Cosmos sent me a comment.
Who? Oregonskateok? You're about 3 months late man. I stopped dissing that retard long ago. ...and actually, no, I wasn't like that. There was obviously a time when I didn't know it, but when I was learning it, I didn't make stupid comments that were totally ass backwards and wrong and the accuse people who DO know what they're talking about that they have it wrong. Anyone I have responded to on this video said something stupid and condescending in the first place. I responded.
Meh....you're ok. If you claim you're not a guitar noob then why would you ask "where's the lesson?" If that was sarcasm and you already know the scale, then that makes you look more like the "typical Youtube asshole" than me. Nice goatee by the way. I bet it comes in handy tickling guys' balls.
If your pursuit of hapiness consists of posting rude and condescending remarks on youtube, then maybe you should consider seeing a psychiatrist. Yes, it was sarcasm. You're an awfully low being for your comments.
I watched the video thinking he would teach some melodical tips in the phrygian mode, so it wasnt very useful to me. although Im sure some guitarists will find it useful
You're right, its the chrod progression you're playing over that gives it its feel, same as any mode. A C-lydian mode will sound like E-minor Aeolian scale over an E-moinor chord progession.
You are correct InCircle9, the only difference between the two is that the e phrygian dominant starts on the E and the a harmonic minor starts on the A. They both share the exact same notes
Necrophagist uses harmonic minor a lot....as in they play in a harmonic minor key. Harmonic minor and phrygian dominant are synonymous...they share the exact same notes.. E harmonic minor is the same as B phrygian dominant or A harmonic minor is the same as E phrygian dominant. They use both and more.
No they are not. This is how you know who knows what about modes. B phrygian dominant has a tonal center of B, E harmonic minor has a tonal center of E. They sound nothing alike. Modes are applicable over modal progressions, and require tonal centers to function as modes. Otherwise they are note modes and are just the parent scale.
Uh, yeah they are. This is how you know who is a moron and doesn't know what they're talking about. I have a masters in composition, I think I know what I'm talking about. Yes, B phrygian dominant has a tonal center of B using the same notes as E harmonic minor which obviously has E as the tonal center. They both use the same exact notes, just a different tonal center. They sound as if they are in the same key...which they are. You would realize that if you had a good ear.
Im majoring in composition, lol. Anyway, I dont think you would argue that a B tonal center sounds the same as an E tonal center, despite what you just said. If you are going to imply that modes sound the same as their parent scale you should redo college.
i didn't say that a B tonal center sounds the same as an E tonal center. When did I imply that modes sound the same as their parent scale? Modes sound relative to their parent scale. Learn to read moron. Get your money back dude.
Also, harmonic minor is not a key, you have two choices for keys, major or minor. Watch who you are calling a moron, you obviously didnt learn that much in college, as you have a very weird view of theory.
Are you shitting me?? I have a wierd view of theory? You have major and minor keys. Anyone who is studying composition would know that in classical music, the 3rd of the V chord in a minor key was usually always raised to make it dominant, creating harmonic minor. It's a minor key, but it can be natural minor, harmonic minor, minor 6/9, etc. etc. You know shit. Noob.
Yeah, what does that have to do with modes? Phyrgian dominant is not a minor mode. You said it will sound exactly the same as its parent scale, even though it has completely different intervals, a major third, lol, and its tonic chord is also major. Read your own posts, I have not said anything that isnot true.
1. I never said phrygian dominant was a minor mode....your are a complete tool.
2. I did not say it would sound exactly the same as its parent scale. I said they sound relative. Read my comments again retard.
3. Your knowledege on modes is correct. You're saying I said things I didn't say just because you're a loser and you want to argue. Again, I have a masters and trust me, I know way more than you ever will and I will dominate you at guitar and composition.
you stated that if I had a trained ear I could tell B phrygian dominant sounded the same as E harmonic minor. This if very wrong because someone who took a basic Aural training class could determine the intervals and resolution is different. Im not ignorant, just admit your mistake.
You are wrong oregonskateok. Phrygian dominant is the fifth mode of the harmonic minor scale. A Harmonic minor, contains the notes A, B, C, D, E, F, G#, and A. The fifth mode, E Phrygian Dominant contains the notes E, F, G#, A, B, C, D, and E. They are synonymous.
They sound completely different. Thats like saying A minor and C major are the same thing. Are you trolling me? I never said it wasn't a mode of the harmonic minor scale, but you said it sounds the same as harmonic minor, and anyone with basic ear training would be able to tell it doesnt. Again, how was I wrong?
Nobody said they sounded the same you fucking idiot. I didn't say it sounded like harmonic minor. I said it sounded RELATIVE to the parent scale. Do you know what that word means? They are synonymous. They use the same notes just different tonal centers. Fuck off already. You're a complete douche bag and everyone agrees.
would you fucks stop comparing muhammed to everything. i like them too but i dont jerk them off every fucking chance christ, thats why bands get so popular, dumb fucking fans who can't shut up.
@bettrthanu1 glad it helped! I still play guitar but lately I've been producing a lot. I've been meaning to post another guitar lesson-thing so I'll let you know when I do homie
CrispyPs 3 months ago
V mode of A Harmonic Minor. The people on here would rather talk about what color strat they have.
indigorob 1 year ago
hahahahaha............
MonwarulHoqueMoni 1 year ago
He seems to be starting from F when playing the first pattern which would make it Lydian #2nd. He does end on the E though. He then plays from the 5th fret (A) which makes it straight harmonic minor. Lydian #2nd and Spanish Phrygian (or phrygian dominant, same thing) are modes of harmonic minor.
intervalkid 1 year ago
your action is too low...
SlingPot 1 year ago
harmonic minor and phrygian dominant it's the same?
medvidmaks 1 year ago
@medvidmaks Same notes, but not same succesion of intervals. That means it soundsa bit different (a lot actually). Just like A minor and C major have the same notes but sound very different.
Sivels 1 year ago
And where's the lesson in this? All you're doing is running up and down in a few positions. How about you teach some modal theory involving this particular mode when writing that in the title.
alt9001 1 year ago
on the first part why didnt you play the 4-5 on the high E like in the tab?
axegrinder89 1 year ago
nice lesson bro, sharing is the best then complan other you know yeagh ;-)
Nurjamizal 2 years ago
thanks man. could you do a vid on all the positions for harmonic minor?
just a little pointer, not sayin you suck or anything cause i dont knwo theory too well honestly, but you should work on your vibrato. its all in the wrist... its all in the wrist.
guitaristNick4444 2 years ago
@guitaristNick4444 There is only 7 notes in the scale,
E, F,G#, A, B, C, D, and then it starts at E and repeats the whole thing.
and if u start it on the G#, just play A, B, C, D, E, F, G# again, and u have played it in another position.
when playing the phrygian dominant scale, or any other scale, they wont include other notes than the notes u play in the first position.
CobHatecrewNor 2 years ago
@CobHatecrewNor Im not too savvy on theory, but im working on it. anyway, if you play it on A then play it in B thats 2 different positions? cause you can just move your hand up the fret board and play the same pattern. am i thinking different positions as in moving it up and down the strings rather than up the fretboard chromaticly per se?
guitaristNick4444 2 years ago
@guitaristNick4444 oh, sry, i didnt read it completely before i posted all of that :p
CobHatecrewNor 2 years ago
i dont get why u had some parts of the scale 4 notes to a string. wouldn't 3 or 2 be easier so u dont have to slide ur hand?
Spimp4 2 years ago
I remember I learnt scales like these from a website that has practically all of the ones you need and don't need to know. I think it's an interactive flash thing. It's pretty cool. I'm not going to say what the website is unless you ask me though.
unorthodox41 2 years ago
hey,
i was wondering if you could tell me were can i find the music theory explanations,
like were can i start, the first step to get into it.
23445545665 2 years ago
@23445545665 There are a ton of websites that offer great information on both general music theory and guitar lessons. I'd just punch it into Google and find what website suits you best. I wish I knew a few URLs off hand but I learned all my theory through classes and never frequently looked up sites for it.
CrispyPs 2 years ago
oh,
well thanxs for responding.
maybe i will just take classes lol
23445545665 2 years ago
Over 11 thousand views... awesome. Glad to see this video might have helped some people along the way on the long road of music theory. It's also cool to see that this video sparked up some conversation among fellow musicians out there. Thanks everyone, everything's appreciated.
CrispyPs 2 years ago
mexican made
CrispyPs 2 years ago
Phrygian dominant is a mode of harmonic minor. Start on the fifth note of a harmonic minor scale and play up to the octave - that's Phrygian dominant.
RaidenNoKishi 2 years ago
hey I really like that guitar (maple fretboard? looks great), does anyone know what hes using? also, when can you use a phrygian dominant? can it be used over the ii chord like regular phrygian? or over any minor progression to sound cool? lol
kyuteh 2 years ago
thanks a bunch kyuteh, im using a MM HSS strat (still loving it to this day) and to answer your question I use this mode all the time over minor progressions.
CrispyPs 2 years ago
@kyuteh I think it is a fender strat but im not 100%
76jnette 11 months ago
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resistance6 2 years ago
whats the differance between a harmonic minor and a phrygian dominant ?
auvik 2 years ago
The tonal center.
oregonskateok 2 years ago
@auvik u start on the 5th note of the harmonic minor scale, and u get a phrygian dominant. if u start on the 3rd note of the harmonic minor scale u get the ionian scale with a sharp 5th. it's all just names for if u start on a certain note.
Spimp4 2 years ago
dis is also the A minor harmonic isnt it??
nextWarnie 2 years ago
Ok i see what you have done here.But i don't see any flats.I thought the phrygian mode was 1,b2,b3,4,b5,b6,b7,1.
....lol wut?
julianistkrieg 2 years ago
Nope, that's locrian mode. Keep the 5th natural and you have phrygian. Then raise your 3rd up a half step instead of b3 and you have your phrygian dominant scale.
Drucef 2 years ago
I don't think so. grab a keyboard and play from b3 to b4 only white keys. thats the locrian mode, and it sounds nothing like this. he is doing a natural fifth, in the locrian the fifth is diminished, thats why it sound so odd and difficult to place it in a tonality. phrygian is playing from e3 to e4 only white keys (on a keyboard).
I was tought that in the conservatory, although maybe im wrong, Im more into tonal thinking, not modal.
Cosmos135498 2 years ago
Yeah...apparently your first comment (about playing w/ the keyboard) was directed towards me. I was responding to julianistkrieg. I wasn't commenting on the video itself.
Drucef 2 years ago
yes, I know. I was trying to correct you, as the mode he is playing is not locrian, its phrygian with an alteration on a note which makes it a minor armonic really.
Cosmos135498 2 years ago
...you're not correcting me. The guy in the video is playing phrygian dominant. julianistkrieg was talking about Locrian mode. Damn, learn to read.
Drucef 2 years ago
yes youre right, I got confused with the names
Cosmos135498 2 years ago
b4? there is no b4 in locrian. Tonal think is better anyway usually, 90 percent of fail guitarists who talk about using modes dont use them right anyway.
oregonskateok 2 years ago
@oregonskateok
b4? He's talking about octave range. Like C4 is middle C. If you're in the key of C major (Ionian), B to B is locrian mode. There is a b4 in Locrian. Any note can exist in Locrian mode within the right context. You really argue about stupid shit. You know how your modes work (as anyone should) but your knowledge on common aspects of music theory is very elementary.
Oh, and yea, I have responded recently because Cosmos sent me a comment.
Drucef 2 years ago
Except the note name provided uses a capital letter, not a lowercase one. Thats what I get for skim reading.
oregonskateok 2 years ago
@oregonskateok yeah dog, quit raggin on guitarists. not everyone can be perfect like you.
Spimp4 2 years ago
It has nothing to do with being perfect, you either understand theory or you don't, and those who don't fail at using modes.
oregonskateok 2 years ago
Where is the lesson?
viperabs 2 years ago
Typical guitar noob. He played the scale for you slowly. Figure it out. You need him to hold your hand?
Drucef 2 years ago
Typical guitar noob? I dare you to visit my page and tell me that. Typical youtube asshole.
viperabs 2 years ago
stop dissing him man you were probalby like that once everyone is i just give hime prosps for trying to challange him self with this stuff
chokerjoker4 2 years ago
Who? Oregonskateok? You're about 3 months late man. I stopped dissing that retard long ago. ...and actually, no, I wasn't like that. There was obviously a time when I didn't know it, but when I was learning it, I didn't make stupid comments that were totally ass backwards and wrong and the accuse people who DO know what they're talking about that they have it wrong. Anyone I have responded to on this video said something stupid and condescending in the first place. I responded.
Drucef 2 years ago
Meh....you're ok. If you claim you're not a guitar noob then why would you ask "where's the lesson?" If that was sarcasm and you already know the scale, then that makes you look more like the "typical Youtube asshole" than me. Nice goatee by the way. I bet it comes in handy tickling guys' balls.
Drucef 2 years ago
If your pursuit of hapiness consists of posting rude and condescending remarks on youtube, then maybe you should consider seeing a psychiatrist. Yes, it was sarcasm. You're an awfully low being for your comments.
viperabs 2 years ago
I watched the video thinking he would teach some melodical tips in the phrygian mode, so it wasnt very useful to me. although Im sure some guitarists will find it useful
Cosmos135498 2 years ago
Yeah. Do a search for Joe Satriani phrygian dominant lesson. He should have what you're looking for.
Drucef 2 years ago
You still respond to this video lol?
oregonskateok 2 years ago
good tutorial, but you threw in a couple of other modes in there by going to different frets, maybe you should mention that.
virtuastudios 2 years ago 2
peanut butter in my ear
HappyFishFilms 2 years ago
if you add sharp to fourth step of A Harmonic Minor as below;
A B C D# E F G# A
it's name is Hicaz scale in Turkish music. It gives good sound really.
sinasalik 2 years ago
This is my favorite mode.
I play this way too much. ;)
Fretfeeler 2 years ago
Harmonic minor and phrygian dominant are the same if for example you have A Harmonic minor and E Phrygian dominant.
A harmonic Minor
A B C D E F G# A
E Phrygian Dominant
E F G# A B C D E
but if u have E phryg dom and E harm
then those would be different.
am i right or what?
talk to me ppl
InCircle9 3 years ago 3
You're right, its the chrod progression you're playing over that gives it its feel, same as any mode. A C-lydian mode will sound like E-minor Aeolian scale over an E-moinor chord progession.
vampire28 3 years ago
I'm jealous lol Where did you learn all that man?
moporama 2 years ago
You are correct InCircle9, the only difference between the two is that the e phrygian dominant starts on the E and the a harmonic minor starts on the A. They both share the exact same notes
CrispyPs 2 years ago
Necrophagist uses harmonic minor alot. It is not the same as phrygian dominant. How did you associate muhammad with this video at all?
oregonskateok 3 years ago
Necrophagist uses harmonic minor a lot....as in they play in a harmonic minor key. Harmonic minor and phrygian dominant are synonymous...they share the exact same notes.. E harmonic minor is the same as B phrygian dominant or A harmonic minor is the same as E phrygian dominant. They use both and more.
Drucef 2 years ago
No they are not. This is how you know who knows what about modes. B phrygian dominant has a tonal center of B, E harmonic minor has a tonal center of E. They sound nothing alike. Modes are applicable over modal progressions, and require tonal centers to function as modes. Otherwise they are note modes and are just the parent scale.
oregonskateok 2 years ago
Uh, yeah they are. This is how you know who is a moron and doesn't know what they're talking about. I have a masters in composition, I think I know what I'm talking about. Yes, B phrygian dominant has a tonal center of B using the same notes as E harmonic minor which obviously has E as the tonal center. They both use the same exact notes, just a different tonal center. They sound as if they are in the same key...which they are. You would realize that if you had a good ear.
Drucef 2 years ago
Im majoring in composition, lol. Anyway, I dont think you would argue that a B tonal center sounds the same as an E tonal center, despite what you just said. If you are going to imply that modes sound the same as their parent scale you should redo college.
oregonskateok 2 years ago
i didn't say that a B tonal center sounds the same as an E tonal center. When did I imply that modes sound the same as their parent scale? Modes sound relative to their parent scale. Learn to read moron. Get your money back dude.
Drucef 2 years ago
Also, harmonic minor is not a key, you have two choices for keys, major or minor. Watch who you are calling a moron, you obviously didnt learn that much in college, as you have a very weird view of theory.
oregonskateok 2 years ago
Are you shitting me?? I have a wierd view of theory? You have major and minor keys. Anyone who is studying composition would know that in classical music, the 3rd of the V chord in a minor key was usually always raised to make it dominant, creating harmonic minor. It's a minor key, but it can be natural minor, harmonic minor, minor 6/9, etc. etc. You know shit. Noob.
Drucef 2 years ago 2
Yeah, what does that have to do with modes? Phyrgian dominant is not a minor mode. You said it will sound exactly the same as its parent scale, even though it has completely different intervals, a major third, lol, and its tonic chord is also major. Read your own posts, I have not said anything that isnot true.
oregonskateok 2 years ago
1. I never said phrygian dominant was a minor mode....your are a complete tool.
2. I did not say it would sound exactly the same as its parent scale. I said they sound relative. Read my comments again retard.
3. Your knowledege on modes is correct. You're saying I said things I didn't say just because you're a loser and you want to argue. Again, I have a masters and trust me, I know way more than you ever will and I will dominate you at guitar and composition.
You're ignored.
Drucef 2 years ago 3
you stated that if I had a trained ear I could tell B phrygian dominant sounded the same as E harmonic minor. This if very wrong because someone who took a basic Aural training class could determine the intervals and resolution is different. Im not ignorant, just admit your mistake.
oregonskateok 2 years ago
You are wrong oregonskateok. Phrygian dominant is the fifth mode of the harmonic minor scale. A Harmonic minor, contains the notes A, B, C, D, E, F, G#, and A. The fifth mode, E Phrygian Dominant contains the notes E, F, G#, A, B, C, D, and E. They are synonymous.
jlm3000 2 years ago 12
No they are not, modes are not synonymous with their parent scale. They have different tonal centers, you dont know what modes are.
oregonskateok 2 years ago
They are too synonymous. They just don't share the same tonal center. You are such a dumbass. What school are you going to?
Drucef 2 years ago
They sound completely different. Thats like saying A minor and C major are the same thing. Are you trolling me? I never said it wasn't a mode of the harmonic minor scale, but you said it sounds the same as harmonic minor, and anyone with basic ear training would be able to tell it doesnt. Again, how was I wrong?
oregonskateok 2 years ago
Nobody said they sounded the same you fucking idiot. I didn't say it sounded like harmonic minor. I said it sounded RELATIVE to the parent scale. Do you know what that word means? They are synonymous. They use the same notes just different tonal centers. Fuck off already. You're a complete douche bag and everyone agrees.
Drucef 2 years ago 2
He's a fucking idiot.
Drucef 2 years ago
is that the fender lite ash stratocaster model?
ozzy9691 3 years ago
nah its just a mm hss, with upgraded SD in the bridge
CrispyPs 3 years ago
SEND ME THE TABS!!!!
devouringsin 3 years ago
I just posted a video with the tabs
CrispyPs 3 years ago
could u tab these pleeeeeaaaaase
aniesha7 3 years ago
your talking about people learning this to shred like muhhamad>>??? wouldn't people who CAN shred already know it??
matteous 3 years ago
would you fucks stop comparing muhammed to everything. i like them too but i dont jerk them off every fucking chance christ, thats why bands get so popular, dumb fucking fans who can't shut up.
UntLich 3 years ago
Yeah now sweep it like Muhammed!! hahah.. very nice work. This is a good scale for building up speed.
secksi71 3 years ago
actually every scale is good to build up speed :D doit like oetrucci or like muhammad... dm.. :D
Gandalf1324 3 years ago
thanks
blackmagswithcats 3 years ago
no prob, hope it helped
CrispyPs 3 years ago