Wow i seriously cant believe people. Theres always gotta be some kind of negative comment posted. Dyzee fell off? Wtf Maaaan no way, dyzee's just fine, I think people just expect the world from these guys. Some of the comments people post just don't make sense.
@randellpasion, being korean had nothing to do with it lol, ronnie is flip and lives in Vegas, and menno is from holland and is in blond white, race has nothing to do with it
@jonybonygon Yeah, he still is. And Dyzee is still in Supernatz. But they're both in 7 commandoz now, along with hong 10, differ, menno, skim, and ronnie
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It is sad that B Boying has become almost like a sport! I prefer circles and general jams. Battles always seem to produce an ugly style and i thought the whole idea of b boyng was to maintain a cool flow and style. B Boying will soon be in the x games and every middle class wigger and his mum will be cheering in the crowd with their favourite murchandise. Im gonna keep jamin with my b boys and fuck this shit off.
I just think it is selling out a bit! Just looks like a bit of a fashion show thats all! I agree breakdancing is perfect for battling but i think all the joshing is a little sad!
to sacrifice somethen, to show the world were here and still bboyin regardless of what they think.
Ill put it like this if it wasnt for the sponsors and clothing industries that sponsor crews around the world to BOTY and other comps bboyin would be dead. That i am certain of. Its not nessacarily the will to do better but the fire to show how much time and energy u put into this art we express. And of coarse to battle as well. No disrespect just thought your comment was very interesting
im not gonna argue on that fact bboyin has evolved in many ways and yes bboyin iz kinda sellin out in many wayz. But one bboyin cant seriously looked at as a sport. For instance sorry but anyone person can play football all u need iz general physical attributes, but not bboyin, not being a powerhead or abstract breaker, but bboyin. Unlike football society has never rejected it, therefore the will and passion to do somethen society does not believe in or think has a true objective or even cause
is not there. But the only bboyin really sells out in, iz when it comes to comps most judges alwayz pick the more known competitor more less the one with a more distinctive or creative style. Which is caused by the the thought process of who is a crowd pleaser and whats gonna draw there attention and keep seats filled. But when it comes to merchandise, we dont have much of a chose in the matter. Hell I know people down here that think if u by adidas youll get better. Point blank we as bboys have
Holyfiremikey shut the fuck up !....old skul bboy doesn't mean that he has to be in the 1970s-80s.......it's jst that his style is old skul....Roxrite for example.....although he got new skul moves he prefers that style....ur a fucking retard man.....why u argue in every vid I watch ? u get paid for writing these comments ? get a life lol, if ur such a great bboy, I wanna see u at Red Bull BC One someday...all I see is comments on respecting the culture, as if we pay disrespect to it..fucktard !
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I wish all of you youtube eboy smirks, would stop talking about bboying like you're experts just because you saw some cool powermove videos and got excited.
It's disrespect to real bboys, and disrespect to the creators of bboying. Either learn deeply about the culture, or shut your mouth.
Uhhh, I stopped commenting long ago, until I keep seeing new replies from you. I keep replying, and you do the same, I get new comment replies from you everyday, and vice versa with my comments. Don't even try to make like I'm the one who keeps replying.
How come you stopped giving my comments thumbs down, and stopped giving yourself thumbs up on your comments?
And before you go and call me an eboy, or stupid again, remember, you're the one that called it "breakdancing," and you're the one who thinks "stupider" is an actual english word.
I'm the eboy, which is why you called bboying, "breakdancing," and stated that Crumbs is an oldschool bboy right?
You also called a headswipe, the "roll thing, woosung from Expressions does."
Anyone who reads the comments will clearly see you're the eboy, and you made more than one youtube account just so you could give my comments numerous thumbs downs in other videos.
crumbs started the new school where u getting ur info? U retard. Woosung dousn head swipe u moron, or at least that wasn wat i was talking about. HAHAHAHA u don't even know the names of the moves. Ur so sad. How am i an eboy? Everyone hates you and is calling you an eboy no ones called me that here. The other account was actually a mess up in account activation. Now be a good lil eboy and die you worthless trash
? On a N.O.N. video, they did two handed hand hops, and I said not even old school bboys are willing to do that move, and I told you to name one that does. And your reply was, that Crumbs was an oldschool bboy who did that move. What does that have to do with Crumbs starting new school or not? I said YOU, not me, YOU stated Crumbs was an oldschool bboy, I didn't say that, you did.
which is why YOUYOUYOUYOU called bboying, "breakdancing," and YOUYOU stated that Crumbs is an oldschool bboy right?"
And if you weren't talking about the headswipe move, what was the "roll thing" you claimed I did, that Woosung also does? And you also called a sweep swipe, a regular swipe.
The only reason no one's calling you an eboy here, is because all of the comments where you made all of your errors about Crumbs,
calm down i get ur on ur period, but u dont have to be such a bitch all the time god. Why don't u walk away before you make yourself look stupid or well stupider
lol, "stupider" is not even a word. Just like how you can't say "gooder." You either say more stupid, or more good.
Dude, you're the only one making errors in bboy moves/history, and even plain old, english grammar. The only thing I can be labeled as being overzealous, but as for being "stupider," lol, only you are fitting the description to its fullest extent.
yea i know it not even a word, but it gets the point across. Since you used it to describe makes you a hypocrite. Trash like you is why abortions are ok.
lol, dude, the only thing you're good at, is giving thumbs down on all of my comments. Yet you make no real solid points, you just say how you dont' like me, and vote thumbs down for my comments. That thumbs down doesn't do anything to help your argument you child.
and bboy moves, happened on another video, and my Korean subway video you commented on, not this video. If you said what you said there, on this video section of comments, yes, of course you would get called the eboy. Does the fact that you called bboying "breakdancing" ring the bell? You said it was "breakdancing," and you have the audacity to call me an eboy?
The guy who called me an eboy here, called me one not by anything I said in error, but
he just made random accusations. He said that my bboy video on my page wasn't really me, that I just filmed some other guy claiming to be him. So I've only been called an eboy, by guys like you who say it's "breakdancing," and guys who just make stuff up out of thin air, claiming I'm not really the guy in my videos.
There's no authenticity, or ground for those like you calling me eboy. But I have grounds for knowing you are, by you saying
Bboying doesn't belong to any one person. Hate less and be psyched that bboying is evolving to the extent that it affects people worldwide, Hip hop is about unity. Respect to those who know their history, now teach it rather than one-uping everyone.
Everyone hates too much. History IS very important, but when you look at who did what and basically "copyright" bboy/bgirl moves, it doesn't really accomplish much for bboying/bgirling as a whole and inhibits the growth of this art. Yeah biting sucks, but there comes a point when style becomes foundation. Crumbs and remind went to Korea to teach Koreans bboying and thus passed on their legacy to them.
yes korea is the most comercialized scene out ther, ther in energy drink comercials, comercials for food, everythingg, bboyin is korea's thing but its tru it wasnt created ther. Korean bboys focus on power, they're a different breed of bboys, ther are hradly ne who focus on the foundation of breakin and many do step to one beat in a whole set. Not to say they arnt talented but its veryy hard to compare these bboys to ne Americans becuz their style areee so difffert
Were you just flaming on guys who watch documentaries and now using it as a reference? Besides that, the majority of US events right now are underground, whereas every Korean event is broad casted across the country. As for originality, don't forget who came up with the six step and baby freeze. Foundation is foundation because that's where it started. And it's safe to say no Korean has a perfect record on the international level.
You're misrepresenting information. They said that it was their fault that when people called it the commercialized term "breakdancing," that the NYC breakers didn't correct them and say, "no it's bboying." So it wasn't like they said they were proud of what happened, just that they should have done more to speak up and correct the misunderstandings.
WHAT are you talking about! The BBoy scene in Korea is the most commercial one in the history of the world! P.S. Dyzee's had lotus flares for a while now.
And the Rocksteady guys who did movies like Beatstreet, said they consider it a mistake because they were just young kids. Mr. Wiggles said later when they made movies like Style wars, those represented true hip hop and were not Hollywood infected.
I'm a Korean American, I've been in Korea for the past two and a half years
The video you watched on my channel, is from about 5 years ago man, how much did you improve in your dancing from five years ago to now? As a matter of fact, do you even dance, and if you do, are you at a higher level than even my video you watched from around five years ago?
As for taking freezes and modifying them, I never said that wasn't being original with it, but at the same time it's not making anything original from scratch.
I clearly stated, reverse engineering. Cell phones, not created by Asia, but Asia reverse engineered and bettered it, yet they were not the ORIGINAL inventors who made a totally new thing.
2. You're saying I can't break based on a video of me five years ago, and yet you don't have any form of video to back up you being any better to state what you state, and if not video, if you're ever in Korea hit me up, I will cypher battle you one on one, so you can back up your mouth.
3. everything you've used is an ad hominem, can you actually make any valid points based on bboy criteria, and stop rebutting things I haven't stated in the first place?
4. owned you've been verbally, if you're still up for it, bring out a physical manifestation of your dancing visually for me to see, in any format you like.
in to a slide of the left thigh leg type worm to gain momentum to push up in to another swipe, then from there going straight in to a side head freeze with legs in the "hook" position of the traditional baby freeze.
Every single move I did was either old school foundation, except for the side of
the head freeze which came a little bit more in mid school. Also all of the traditional moves I did flowed one in to the other in a non-stop continuous motion, which is another fundamental of the dance.
I did no such a thing of "breakdancing," again you're making accusations and I shut those accusations up again, by showing you,
EVERY movement I did in that video was foundation and done with foundation mentality and flow, which is why it's bboying, not breakdancing, and I know more about the culture and have been in the game longer as you've admitted. And not even five years ago, my older vid is five years ago, but I've been breaking since Feb of 1999
, about 8 and a half years. And you proving you can beat me online is not talk, because I said an online VIDEO, a visual capture of your dancing is not talking, it's not verbal moron. And answer the question, you said I'm wack, so answer, can you beat me in your opinion, and if you say you won't just talk, too late, you opened that door already by
using talk and calling me wack in my dancing, you already did the "talk."
How dare you tell me I don't know the difference between bboying and "breakdancing," when I've been in the scene longer, and the video you called breakdancing has nothing breakdancing about it as I've explained clearly with valid
points (something you have failed to use even once, you just claim something along with an insult but you don't have any reasoning behind them).
And what are you talking about, you can have a battle, in a cypher, thus it's a cypher battle. You can call someone out in a cypher, you can catch some wreck in a
And you're saying no bboy "philosopher" is needed to determine what foundation is? Uhhh, yes, a person who knows the ideology, culture, background, and fundamentals of the dance, is needed to give the right judgment on the dance, based on those things.
If you just have a non-philosopher of a spectator judging bboying, that's when you have outlandish statements that are made on a lack of understanding of the dance.
EVERYTHING you say is making me embarassed about your intellect, you should be too.
it's clear you thought my 2007 subway video was "breakdancing," because I needed to name out for you EVERY single move in there being a foundational move. Do you want me to go further and name some of the guys who invented those moves?
hooks, swipes, two steps, wrists at sides of waist which Mr. Freeze points out indicates flavor, closing of the legs from a spread position to indicate a finished set, side thigh worm.
actual original names, the rest of the moves I named are foundation, but I'm not sure on the exact names for them.
So again, not breakdancing, what it really is, is you couldn't recognize all of those foundational things in my VERY short set, so you called it breakdancing just because...I don't even know why, I think you're just an idiot would be the only explanation.
From that same place my friend didn't record my other set. But I did a front flip suicide (suicides Frosty Freeze RIP), in to the second part of a jumping coin drop (Maurizio Bboy Next One, RSC crew Italy), in to a headspring landing in a sitting suicide
position with leg hook sitting position freeze, and a hand on my hat for good measure. Then straight in to a side turtle freeze with legs scissor kicking both ways, and up again.
u just filled this whole page with CRAP. Way to tarnish Dyzee and Wing's battle. Made it ur lil spot to show the youtube community how pompous u are. Ur a huge moron and Jonnoo is right about u. Anyone whose thinks your wack is probably right. You need to shut up. This and a couple other videos where people say your wack is why i hate you btw. We could probably get petitions signed to show how many people hate you.
Each time you come to my video and comment something, you automatically vote a thumbs up for your own comment with I see now, your more than one youtube account. You've never refuted any of my points, and I've refuted all of yours, a thumbs up you give for yourself is not going to change that. It's almost comedic, you lose the argument, and your response is to give yourself a thumbs up thinking it means something.
I used reason you just ignore it like the arrogant prick you are, and why do you always post like 5 comments each time i post one? U got nothing better to do i c. Here's my reason everyone you seem to talk to seems to hate you, which is true i mean look around ur not gonna deny it. U act like u know everything about break dancing when u don't know shit. I'm done baby sitting peace out you little whinnier; don't post your crap on other ppls video it's a waste of space you worthless piece of shit.
I said to use reason, not what your reason for being angry with me was. I said to use reason, as in "logic," and common sense/facts in your arguments about bboying.
And on that discussion, you just use personal insults instead of using reason/fact to back up your statements about the topic of bboying.
it's bboying, this clearly shows me you're just an eboy by your saying that incorrect term that bboys are not cool with. I'm saying to use reason, as in actual points. Like when I asked, if you can do the moves I do that you claim are "easy" to get in to, you STILL haven't addressed that. I said to admit you were wrong in calling Crumbs not an oldschool style bboy, but you literally
said he was a bboy from the oldschool time, when in fact he came about twenty years after that period. Things like this, you STILL have not addressed with REASONable points or replies.
I can't believe when I said to use "reason," you think I mean a reason for why you don't like me. I'm talking about USING reason, not, "what's your reason?"
can't understand english language context, and the only thing you add to the discussion about bboying, is how you don't like me. What does that have to do with bboy history, moves, and fundamentals?
By the way, a lot of what I said about bboy foundation, and my basketball analogies on bboying, came from, bboy Dyzee.
And like I said, majority of the people I speak with on bboying I'm on positive terms with. The ONLY ones who come back all negative are guys like you who call it "breakdancing," eboys who are not actual bboys.
Thing is, majority of people who watch bboy videos on youtube, are guys like you, who are not involved in the culture or dance and
are only interested in what's dynamic to your eyes, rather than what's really important in the dance. So of course I'm going to get a lot of comments on youtube that are negative, because you and your "breakdance" buddies are all over youtube watching these videos judging them based on incorrect criteria, the same criteria the general public used to judge
bboying in the 80's, which is why it had full blown excitement, but died out in the public interest so quickly, because they didn't respect it as a real dance, just a circus gymnastic act.
You're telling me I know nothing about bboying, when every comment I've made to you about moves, history, on bboying, I've been
right, and if I was wrong, you've not even ONCE, have been able to refute any of those points. And the times you did reply, you were wrong, like your "bboy Crumbs is a bboy from the oldschool," comment, or you calling sweep swipes, "1.5 swipes," and headswipes, "the roll thing woosung from Expression does."
If I'm the guy that knows nothing, why are you the one always wrong on every aspect of bboying you talk about?
, it's very commercial here with bboying. They have had a drama "Over the rainbow" about bboy backdancers becoming singers, and another drama series called "break" where it was Korean bboys in it, with a really gay storyline, basically like a you got served.
And name one thing Korea did that is original. Every move Korea does now, was originally made by someone in the U.S. or Europe. Dyzee did a lotus flare in FSS 2003, and Xzooberant from Ground Zero crew did one in Out for Fame 2002,
Reveal from Rythm Bugz/Killafornia, one of his main moves was the flagged 2000, which he was doing in videos way back in 2001 and probably earlier. Airtracks are either from the U.S. or Europe, elbow and one handed airtracks you see KYS do, Bboy Boy from Havikoro was doing that in FSS 2001/02, and so was Ruen in 2000. And what is a Hong10 freeze? You mean head hollows? Crumbs was doing that in 1999 homie. Airchairs were also being done back in 2000 by crews like BM,
So no, all of these were not Korean made. Korea used them and put variation on them, but that's what Korean does, they don't invent, they take other's inventions and reverse engineer them, that's the culture here.
bboymyung no disrespect, but comments like his is why I can't stand many ppl on you tube. They have no sense of bboy history and think Korean bboys created everything. They don't remember that boy was busting 1 armed elbow air flares b4 KYS, or that Miracles had Born's style before he did(just not all the moves lol) and that all that originated from Crazy Legs, Ken Swift, etc. Point is you have to know your past to truly appreciate the present and future
Definitely. No one seems to remember that the only reason there is such a big Bboying community in Korea is because American Bboys went over there and taught them.
word up to holyfiremikey, it was thanh in LOZ, matter fact LOZ started all the teks in the 90's. without their innovations footwork nowadays woulda been like the rocksteady heads.
did wing really take the monster battle???...i dont kno...i saw it on another clip...it said dizzy:1st, born2nd...and so on...im not sure...but wing is tite ass...
retard.. dyzee didn't steal shit, everyone does that, ppl like bboy baek, no one bited anyone, everyone fucking does that moron. dyzee exectued his moves mad clean, so did wing. i liked both of them.
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wtf dat dyzee fool stole the idea of dat lotus going up trick thing from wake up's tricks. gay. only difference of his is lotus but wake-up's moves r more sick.
The lotus stuff in bboying, started back before Wake-up even started breaking, back in the late 90's when Wakeup was still a little kid in middle or elementary school. One of the first to incorporate lots of yoga in to breaking, is bboy Thanh of LOZ, and later Benji, way before Wake-up was doing it, or basically before anyone was doing it. Dyzee was doing lotus stuff on breaking vids years before Wake-up was even in Expressions
Wow i seriously cant believe people. Theres always gotta be some kind of negative comment posted. Dyzee fell off? Wtf Maaaan no way, dyzee's just fine, I think people just expect the world from these guys. Some of the comments people post just don't make sense.
Fanatikh7 1 month ago
@dyzeesupernaturalzzz so what is the secret strategy to battling????
dhiralpjr 2 months ago
yo dyzee is like an idol for me thing is idk why but i don't like this battle compared with his other ones
vergono123 7 months ago
@vergono123 That is because this is 2006, before I was taught the "SECRET" strategy to battling and understanding how to win competition batttles
dyzeesupernaturalzzz 4 months ago
@dyzeesupernaturalzzz NO FUCKING WAY!?! are you actually the real dyzee????
vergono123 3 months ago
dyzee's also part korean now ever since he married a korean girl. So, That's how he probably got in 7 commandoz. lol
randellpasion 8 months ago
@randellpasion, being korean had nothing to do with it lol, ronnie is flip and lives in Vegas, and menno is from holland and is in blond white, race has nothing to do with it
akatsu24 8 months ago
haha i love how old school hiphop these guys look. dyzee with the track suit and wing with the cornrows and the jersey
trozei780 11 months ago
It's so unfair that these two are in a crew together now
remzrider107 1 year ago
@remzrider107 w8, what? wasnt wing in jinjo crew?
jonybonygon 1 year ago
@jonybonygon Yeah, he still is. And Dyzee is still in Supernatz. But they're both in 7 commandoz now, along with hong 10, differ, menno, skim, and ronnie
remzrider107 1 year ago
who ever thought that 4 years later they'd be in the same crew, ahah wild.
HeyPoi 1 year ago
Song Name?!
nicoflogger123 1 year ago
lol at wings move at 1:32
bboiScrubboi 1 year ago
so i cam on to see arguments from a year ago.. youtube, that is all
Bboyashiya 1 year ago
yeah wing is too sick. lols its funny he wearing knicks NY.. Im from nyc... Thats cool..
jologs21 2 years ago
who won this battle?
jologs21 2 years ago
Wing, then he won the whole thing in the Finals against Born.
BlackRainZero 2 years ago
dyzee kills it man! wing is dope but dyzee got robbed imo.
dope battle btw
peace
sosterneto 2 years ago
well your "imo" isnt good enuff..
round 1 Wing took it,
round 2 wing on the beat
chris27top 2 years ago
and thats YOURS "imo" right?!
sosterneto 2 years ago 3
what's the first song?
PinoyKidX 2 years ago
Sick sick sick both of em
Karnaj 2 years ago
Dyzee Has this shit on lockdown B. I dont care wat nun yall say!
bignitro2 2 years ago
dyzee killin it!
AhSaNL11 2 years ago
wing is gay?
alijababa 2 years ago
wing took it
GIM00N 3 years ago
wing é show...
bboyparrudo 3 years ago
DYZEE fell OFF!
Killnem301 3 years ago
dyzee was sick but wing was still better
mohammedalk 3 years ago
There is only one song in this battle. It was mentioned earlier in the comments..
shack up - banbarra
mlearn14 3 years ago
wing's move at 1:50 nailed the beat!!!
ampyun 3 years ago
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It is sad that B Boying has become almost like a sport! I prefer circles and general jams. Battles always seem to produce an ugly style and i thought the whole idea of b boyng was to maintain a cool flow and style. B Boying will soon be in the x games and every middle class wigger and his mum will be cheering in the crowd with their favourite murchandise. Im gonna keep jamin with my b boys and fuck this shit off.
zizzilock 3 years ago
zizzilock i disagree.
in almost every form of dance theres a competetiveness.
Breakdancing is perfect for battling, and
battling is why a mojrity of bboys still break.
sincerelymine 3 years ago 2
I just think it is selling out a bit! Just looks like a bit of a fashion show thats all! I agree breakdancing is perfect for battling but i think all the joshing is a little sad!
zizzilock 3 years ago
well the fashion show i think comes from
hip pop culture.
you gotta look good to deliver and impact which is why
crews like rivers crew dress super classy.
sincerelymine 3 years ago
i think hes talking more about the glitz and glamour atmsophere. not the clothes lol
theosthebest 3 years ago
to sacrifice somethen, to show the world were here and still bboyin regardless of what they think.
Ill put it like this if it wasnt for the sponsors and clothing industries that sponsor crews around the world to BOTY and other comps bboyin would be dead. That i am certain of. Its not nessacarily the will to do better but the fire to show how much time and energy u put into this art we express. And of coarse to battle as well. No disrespect just thought your comment was very interesting
respect.
RhuggaRhugga 2 years ago
im not gonna argue on that fact bboyin has evolved in many ways and yes bboyin iz kinda sellin out in many wayz. But one bboyin cant seriously looked at as a sport. For instance sorry but anyone person can play football all u need iz general physical attributes, but not bboyin, not being a powerhead or abstract breaker, but bboyin. Unlike football society has never rejected it, therefore the will and passion to do somethen society does not believe in or think has a true objective or even cause
RhuggaRhugga 2 years ago
is not there. But the only bboyin really sells out in, iz when it comes to comps most judges alwayz pick the more known competitor more less the one with a more distinctive or creative style. Which is caused by the the thought process of who is a crowd pleaser and whats gonna draw there attention and keep seats filled. But when it comes to merchandise, we dont have much of a chose in the matter. Hell I know people down here that think if u by adidas youll get better. Point blank we as bboys have
RhuggaRhugga 2 years ago
Holyfiremikey shut the fuck up !....old skul bboy doesn't mean that he has to be in the 1970s-80s.......it's jst that his style is old skul....Roxrite for example.....although he got new skul moves he prefers that style....ur a fucking retard man.....why u argue in every vid I watch ? u get paid for writing these comments ? get a life lol, if ur such a great bboy, I wanna see u at Red Bull BC One someday...all I see is comments on respecting the culture, as if we pay disrespect to it..fucktard !
babbandhoni 3 years ago
luv wing!! i think he took this, his sets were nassssssssty. his getups and combos are too sick
ampyun 3 years ago
Dyzee's FUNKIN FRESH!!!!!
EnigmaDY 3 years ago 11
My cousin's in this group ^-^
0fatz0 3 years ago
Holyfiremikey shut the fuk up..people like 2 read comments below 2 hear peoples point of views on the battle not you talking fucking pish.
harribo 3 years ago 2
is this song a remix of crosstown traffic by jimi hendrix ?
RiceLUMFAO 3 years ago
wait nevermind i'm a dumbass.
RiceLUMFAO 3 years ago 3
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I wish all of you youtube eboy smirks, would stop talking about bboying like you're experts just because you saw some cool powermove videos and got excited.
It's disrespect to real bboys, and disrespect to the creators of bboying. Either learn deeply about the culture, or shut your mouth.
Holyfiremikey 3 years ago
Will you guys atleast get each others instant messanger names and argue on there. LOL
jeez.. -__-
PhantomR32 3 years ago 9
sorry about that this guy wont stop argueing with people he just wont shut the fuck up
Rint18 3 years ago
Uhhh, I stopped commenting long ago, until I keep seeing new replies from you. I keep replying, and you do the same, I get new comment replies from you everyday, and vice versa with my comments. Don't even try to make like I'm the one who keeps replying.
How come you stopped giving my comments thumbs down, and stopped giving yourself thumbs up on your comments?
Holyfiremikey 3 years ago
And before you go and call me an eboy, or stupid again, remember, you're the one that called it "breakdancing," and you're the one who thinks "stupider" is an actual english word.
Holyfiremikey 3 years ago
Everyone Holyfiremikey is a gay eboy who dousn't shut the fuck up, and dousn't know shit. Ignore him for your own good trust me.
Rint18 3 years ago
I'm the eboy, which is why you called bboying, "breakdancing," and stated that Crumbs is an oldschool bboy right?
You also called a headswipe, the "roll thing, woosung from Expressions does."
Anyone who reads the comments will clearly see you're the eboy, and you made more than one youtube account just so you could give my comments numerous thumbs downs in other videos.
Holyfiremikey 3 years ago
crumbs started the new school where u getting ur info? U retard. Woosung dousn head swipe u moron, or at least that wasn wat i was talking about. HAHAHAHA u don't even know the names of the moves. Ur so sad. How am i an eboy? Everyone hates you and is calling you an eboy no ones called me that here. The other account was actually a mess up in account activation. Now be a good lil eboy and die you worthless trash
Rint18 3 years ago
? On a N.O.N. video, they did two handed hand hops, and I said not even old school bboys are willing to do that move, and I told you to name one that does. And your reply was, that Crumbs was an oldschool bboy who did that move. What does that have to do with Crumbs starting new school or not? I said YOU, not me, YOU stated Crumbs was an oldschool bboy, I didn't say that, you did.
Re-read my comment, I said, "I'm the eboy,
Holyfiremikey 3 years ago
which is why YOUYOUYOUYOU called bboying, "breakdancing," and YOUYOU stated that Crumbs is an oldschool bboy right?"
And if you weren't talking about the headswipe move, what was the "roll thing" you claimed I did, that Woosung also does? And you also called a sweep swipe, a regular swipe.
The only reason no one's calling you an eboy here, is because all of the comments where you made all of your errors about Crumbs,
Holyfiremikey 3 years ago
calm down i get ur on ur period, but u dont have to be such a bitch all the time god. Why don't u walk away before you make yourself look stupid or well stupider
Rint18 3 years ago
lol, "stupider" is not even a word. Just like how you can't say "gooder." You either say more stupid, or more good.
Dude, you're the only one making errors in bboy moves/history, and even plain old, english grammar. The only thing I can be labeled as being overzealous, but as for being "stupider," lol, only you are fitting the description to its fullest extent.
Holyfiremikey 3 years ago
yea i know it not even a word, but it gets the point across. Since you used it to describe makes you a hypocrite. Trash like you is why abortions are ok.
Rint18 3 years ago
I wasn't using the word, I was quoting what you said. I didn't call you "stupider," all I did was said you used the word "stupider."
Holyfiremikey 3 years ago
lol, dude, the only thing you're good at, is giving thumbs down on all of my comments. Yet you make no real solid points, you just say how you dont' like me, and vote thumbs down for my comments. That thumbs down doesn't do anything to help your argument you child.
Holyfiremikey 3 years ago
and bboy moves, happened on another video, and my Korean subway video you commented on, not this video. If you said what you said there, on this video section of comments, yes, of course you would get called the eboy. Does the fact that you called bboying "breakdancing" ring the bell? You said it was "breakdancing," and you have the audacity to call me an eboy?
The guy who called me an eboy here, called me one not by anything I said in error, but
Holyfiremikey 3 years ago
he just made random accusations. He said that my bboy video on my page wasn't really me, that I just filmed some other guy claiming to be him. So I've only been called an eboy, by guys like you who say it's "breakdancing," and guys who just make stuff up out of thin air, claiming I'm not really the guy in my videos.
There's no authenticity, or ground for those like you calling me eboy. But I have grounds for knowing you are, by you saying
Holyfiremikey 3 years ago
1. You call it "breakdancing."
2. You said bboy crumbs is an oldschool bboy (definition of oldschool would be the 1970's-80's, Crumbs came up in the 90's.)
3. You called a sweep swipe, just a swipe.
4. When asked to name the bboy moves and techs in my video, out of about ten bboy moves/techs, you could only name three.
Holyfiremikey 3 years ago
You call bboying "breakdancing," you have no right to throw around the eboy word.
Holyfiremikey 3 years ago
HolyfireMikey is a stupid dick
Rint18 3 years ago 3
yo some bboys just kill their own dancing by the way the dress....dude dyzee clthes are wack wing style of makes his movement clear to see.
NOSHADOWKID 3 years ago
which one is Dyzee
luisasa15 3 years ago
I like Dyzee better
Jimmy071176 3 years ago 2
me too i think he took it. Cleaner and better execution, and more on beat.
Rint18 3 years ago
OMG CAN ANYONE GIVE ME THIS VERSION OF THE SONG?
pleaseee
GzP800 3 years ago
dyzee lost but dyzee is cooler
iratevids9 4 years ago
- -^ Bboy Dyzee got owned so badly...
HetubeRamen 4 years ago
that was actually a real close battle, there was no owning on neither side. its a judges call, i would have gave it to dyzee
rintizza 3 years ago 9
Bboying doesn't belong to any one person. Hate less and be psyched that bboying is evolving to the extent that it affects people worldwide, Hip hop is about unity. Respect to those who know their history, now teach it rather than one-uping everyone.
rAwb0t 4 years ago
why you talking about shit hiphop and history
iratevids9 4 years ago
why you talking about shit hiphop and history
iratevids9 4 years ago
Everyone hates too much. History IS very important, but when you look at who did what and basically "copyright" bboy/bgirl moves, it doesn't really accomplish much for bboying/bgirling as a whole and inhibits the growth of this art. Yeah biting sucks, but there comes a point when style becomes foundation. Crumbs and remind went to Korea to teach Koreans bboying and thus passed on their legacy to them.
rAwb0t 4 years ago
why r you argueing about us vs korean bboy stlyels dyzees from canada
stezzy1993 4 years ago 2
true lol
Bo06 4 years ago
LOL...and you my friend with this whole comment war.
javila535 3 years ago
whats the 1st song?
chris27top 4 years ago
since when did wing rock tha beat??..
schwibz 4 years ago
yes korea is the most comercialized scene out ther, ther in energy drink comercials, comercials for food, everythingg, bboyin is korea's thing but its tru it wasnt created ther. Korean bboys focus on power, they're a different breed of bboys, ther are hradly ne who focus on the foundation of breakin and many do step to one beat in a whole set. Not to say they arnt talented but its veryy hard to compare these bboys to ne Americans becuz their style areee so difffert
bboyevolution 4 years ago
And in usa bboy scene isn't commercial??
Cmon NYC breakers even admited in documentry freshest kids that they were commercialing break.
PhreakStep 4 years ago
Were you just flaming on guys who watch documentaries and now using it as a reference? Besides that, the majority of US events right now are underground, whereas every Korean event is broad casted across the country. As for originality, don't forget who came up with the six step and baby freeze. Foundation is foundation because that's where it started. And it's safe to say no Korean has a perfect record on the international level.
DriftTec 4 years ago
No one has a perfect record on internationall level, korean or not.
Shizno87 4 years ago 2
You're misrepresenting information. They said that it was their fault that when people called it the commercialized term "breakdancing," that the NYC breakers didn't correct them and say, "no it's bboying." So it wasn't like they said they were proud of what happened, just that they should have done more to speak up and correct the misunderstandings.
Holyfiremikey 4 years ago
You people are talking shit.
Fucking e-boys you watched few documetarys and now you ate all like rock steady crew fans and so.
RSC and NYC breakers sold their souls for money ;)
Flashdance and so on and Koreans pwns all Americans in bboying becuse they are original i mean lotus flares,hong 10 freeze,flaged 2000's.
PhreakStep 4 years ago
WHAT are you talking about! The BBoy scene in Korea is the most commercial one in the history of the world! P.S. Dyzee's had lotus flares for a while now.
DriftTec 4 years ago
And the Rocksteady guys who did movies like Beatstreet, said they consider it a mistake because they were just young kids. Mr. Wiggles said later when they made movies like Style wars, those represented true hip hop and were not Hollywood infected.
I'm a Korean American, I've been in Korea for the past two and a half years
Holyfiremikey 4 years ago
yes, you'r korean american and you're very annoying. and u cant break. u look like a monkey, retard style.
so what if koreans take freezes and modify it? thats called being original.homie.hah.
jonnoo 3 years ago 2
The video you watched on my channel, is from about 5 years ago man, how much did you improve in your dancing from five years ago to now? As a matter of fact, do you even dance, and if you do, are you at a higher level than even my video you watched from around five years ago?
Holyfiremikey 3 years ago
As for taking freezes and modifying them, I never said that wasn't being original with it, but at the same time it's not making anything original from scratch.
I clearly stated, reverse engineering. Cell phones, not created by Asia, but Asia reverse engineered and bettered it, yet they were not the ORIGINAL inventors who made a totally new thing.
Holyfiremikey 3 years ago
Every straight up new thing, has usually always came out of America, or Europe, never Korea.
So
1. You are attacking a strawman argument which I did not state, because I never said they don't use some level of originality.
Holyfiremikey 3 years ago
2. You're saying I can't break based on a video of me five years ago, and yet you don't have any form of video to back up you being any better to state what you state, and if not video, if you're ever in Korea hit me up, I will cypher battle you one on one, so you can back up your mouth.
Holyfiremikey 3 years ago
3. everything you've used is an ad hominem, can you actually make any valid points based on bboy criteria, and stop rebutting things I haven't stated in the first place?
4. owned you've been verbally, if you're still up for it, bring out a physical manifestation of your dancing visually for me to see, in any format you like.
Holyfiremikey 3 years ago
first of all im not hating. im just saying watch the video. no bboy philospher is needed.
im statingfactwhat i see on your video.
btw its 2007? not 5 years ago. and ur not bboying ur breakdancing. but u dont know the difference do you?
no i ddidnt start dancing 5 years ago. me proving that i can beat you online is jus talk. like you.not me.
Btw, what is a "cypher batttle" ?
hahaha
its a cypher or its a battle
never two things tgt.
jonnoo 3 years ago
I was assuming you watched the five years ago one, seeing as I had the shaved head in reference to your monkey statement.
Secondly, how is it not bboying, when in that subway clip, from a two step footwork, I did a sweep, in to a jumping swipe, then
Holyfiremikey 3 years ago
in to a slide of the left thigh leg type worm to gain momentum to push up in to another swipe, then from there going straight in to a side head freeze with legs in the "hook" position of the traditional baby freeze.
Every single move I did was either old school foundation, except for the side of
Holyfiremikey 3 years ago
the head freeze which came a little bit more in mid school. Also all of the traditional moves I did flowed one in to the other in a non-stop continuous motion, which is another fundamental of the dance.
I did no such a thing of "breakdancing," again you're making accusations and I shut those accusations up again, by showing you,
Holyfiremikey 3 years ago
EVERY movement I did in that video was foundation and done with foundation mentality and flow, which is why it's bboying, not breakdancing, and I know more about the culture and have been in the game longer as you've admitted. And not even five years ago, my older vid is five years ago, but I've been breaking since Feb of 1999
Holyfiremikey 3 years ago
, about 8 and a half years. And you proving you can beat me online is not talk, because I said an online VIDEO, a visual capture of your dancing is not talking, it's not verbal moron. And answer the question, you said I'm wack, so answer, can you beat me in your opinion, and if you say you won't just talk, too late, you opened that door already by
Holyfiremikey 3 years ago
using talk and calling me wack in my dancing, you already did the "talk."
How dare you tell me I don't know the difference between bboying and "breakdancing," when I've been in the scene longer, and the video you called breakdancing has nothing breakdancing about it as I've explained clearly with valid
Holyfiremikey 3 years ago
points (something you have failed to use even once, you just claim something along with an insult but you don't have any reasoning behind them).
And what are you talking about, you can have a battle, in a cypher, thus it's a cypher battle. You can call someone out in a cypher, you can catch some wreck in a
Holyfiremikey 3 years ago
cypher, you can beat someone in a cypher, idiot.
And you're saying no bboy "philosopher" is needed to determine what foundation is? Uhhh, yes, a person who knows the ideology, culture, background, and fundamentals of the dance, is needed to give the right judgment on the dance, based on those things.
Holyfiremikey 3 years ago
If you just have a non-philosopher of a spectator judging bboying, that's when you have outlandish statements that are made on a lack of understanding of the dance.
EVERYTHING you say is making me embarassed about your intellect, you should be too.
Holyfiremikey 3 years ago
it's clear you thought my 2007 subway video was "breakdancing," because I needed to name out for you EVERY single move in there being a foundational move. Do you want me to go further and name some of the guys who invented those moves?
Holyfiremikey 3 years ago
The sweep swipe (Ken Swift/Alien Ness).
hooks, swipes, two steps, wrists at sides of waist which Mr. Freeze points out indicates flavor, closing of the legs from a spread position to indicate a finished set, side thigh worm.
Sweep swipes, and hooks I know are the
Holyfiremikey 3 years ago
actual original names, the rest of the moves I named are foundation, but I'm not sure on the exact names for them.
So again, not breakdancing, what it really is, is you couldn't recognize all of those foundational things in my VERY short set, so you called it breakdancing just because...I don't even know why, I think you're just an idiot would be the only explanation.
Holyfiremikey 3 years ago
From that same place my friend didn't record my other set. But I did a front flip suicide (suicides Frosty Freeze RIP), in to the second part of a jumping coin drop (Maurizio Bboy Next One, RSC crew Italy), in to a headspring landing in a sitting suicide
Holyfiremikey 3 years ago
position with leg hook sitting position freeze, and a hand on my hat for good measure. Then straight in to a side turtle freeze with legs scissor kicking both ways, and up again.
So, what...???? Breakdancing???
No, bboying, fool.
P.S. hater
Holyfiremikey 3 years ago
Holyfiremikey is an annoying lil fuck isn he?
Rint18 3 years ago
u just filled this whole page with CRAP. Way to tarnish Dyzee and Wing's battle. Made it ur lil spot to show the youtube community how pompous u are. Ur a huge moron and Jonnoo is right about u. Anyone whose thinks your wack is probably right. You need to shut up. This and a couple other videos where people say your wack is why i hate you btw. We could probably get petitions signed to show how many people hate you.
Rint0ftheONI 3 years ago 2
...You have numerous accounts just so you can give me more thumbs downs? lol, you're obsessed.
And you keep talking about me being wack, but you also said my swipes weren't bad, but, you again say I'm wack, stick to a position politician.
And you keep talking about me, and yet everytime I ask you if you can do the moves I do, you NEVER answer and avoid the question.
Holyfiremikey 3 years ago
Each time you come to my video and comment something, you automatically vote a thumbs up for your own comment with I see now, your more than one youtube account. You've never refuted any of my points, and I've refuted all of yours, a thumbs up you give for yourself is not going to change that. It's almost comedic, you lose the argument, and your response is to give yourself a thumbs up thinking it means something.
You've followed me around to three videos so
Holyfiremikey 3 years ago
far just to comment about me and thumbs up your comments, and thumbs down anyone who posts a comment agreeing with me.
I mean, talk about patting yourself on the back, you need to use some actual reason, and wake up.
Holyfiremikey 3 years ago
I used reason you just ignore it like the arrogant prick you are, and why do you always post like 5 comments each time i post one? U got nothing better to do i c. Here's my reason everyone you seem to talk to seems to hate you, which is true i mean look around ur not gonna deny it. U act like u know everything about break dancing when u don't know shit. I'm done baby sitting peace out you little whinnier; don't post your crap on other ppls video it's a waste of space you worthless piece of shit.
Rint18 3 years ago 2
I said to use reason, not what your reason for being angry with me was. I said to use reason, as in "logic," and common sense/facts in your arguments about bboying.
And on that discussion, you just use personal insults instead of using reason/fact to back up your statements about the topic of bboying.
And don't ever call it "breakdancing" again,
Holyfiremikey 3 years ago
it's bboying, this clearly shows me you're just an eboy by your saying that incorrect term that bboys are not cool with. I'm saying to use reason, as in actual points. Like when I asked, if you can do the moves I do that you claim are "easy" to get in to, you STILL haven't addressed that. I said to admit you were wrong in calling Crumbs not an oldschool style bboy, but you literally
Holyfiremikey 3 years ago
said he was a bboy from the oldschool time, when in fact he came about twenty years after that period. Things like this, you STILL have not addressed with REASONable points or replies.
I can't believe when I said to use "reason," you think I mean a reason for why you don't like me. I'm talking about USING reason, not, "what's your reason?"
You're saying you've babysitted me, when you
Holyfiremikey 3 years ago
can't understand english language context, and the only thing you add to the discussion about bboying, is how you don't like me. What does that have to do with bboy history, moves, and fundamentals?
By the way, a lot of what I said about bboy foundation, and my basketball analogies on bboying, came from, bboy Dyzee.
Holyfiremikey 3 years ago
And like I said, majority of the people I speak with on bboying I'm on positive terms with. The ONLY ones who come back all negative are guys like you who call it "breakdancing," eboys who are not actual bboys.
Thing is, majority of people who watch bboy videos on youtube, are guys like you, who are not involved in the culture or dance and
Holyfiremikey 3 years ago
are only interested in what's dynamic to your eyes, rather than what's really important in the dance. So of course I'm going to get a lot of comments on youtube that are negative, because you and your "breakdance" buddies are all over youtube watching these videos judging them based on incorrect criteria, the same criteria the general public used to judge
Holyfiremikey 3 years ago
bboying in the 80's, which is why it had full blown excitement, but died out in the public interest so quickly, because they didn't respect it as a real dance, just a circus gymnastic act.
You're telling me I know nothing about bboying, when every comment I've made to you about moves, history, on bboying, I've been
Holyfiremikey 3 years ago
right, and if I was wrong, you've not even ONCE, have been able to refute any of those points. And the times you did reply, you were wrong, like your "bboy Crumbs is a bboy from the oldschool," comment, or you calling sweep swipes, "1.5 swipes," and headswipes, "the roll thing woosung from Expression does."
If I'm the guy that knows nothing, why are you the one always wrong on every aspect of bboying you talk about?
Holyfiremikey 3 years ago
Amen my brother.
Rint18 3 years ago
, it's very commercial here with bboying. They have had a drama "Over the rainbow" about bboy backdancers becoming singers, and another drama series called "break" where it was Korean bboys in it, with a really gay storyline, basically like a you got served.
And name one thing Korea did that is original. Every move Korea does now, was originally made by someone in the U.S. or Europe. Dyzee did a lotus flare in FSS 2003, and Xzooberant from Ground Zero crew did one in Out for Fame 2002,
Holyfiremikey 4 years ago
I have both videos.
Reveal from Rythm Bugz/Killafornia, one of his main moves was the flagged 2000, which he was doing in videos way back in 2001 and probably earlier. Airtracks are either from the U.S. or Europe, elbow and one handed airtracks you see KYS do, Bboy Boy from Havikoro was doing that in FSS 2001/02, and so was Ruen in 2000. And what is a Hong10 freeze? You mean head hollows? Crumbs was doing that in 1999 homie. Airchairs were also being done back in 2000 by crews like BM,
Holyfiremikey 4 years ago
and airbabies are also from the U.S.
So no, all of these were not Korean made. Korea used them and put variation on them, but that's what Korean does, they don't invent, they take other's inventions and reverse engineer them, that's the culture here.
Holyfiremikey 4 years ago
man you know your shit...and you watch the same vids i do lol
Coudntpickname 4 years ago
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DyceF2D 3 years ago
yo man since ur talkin bout syle
you sholud chek out sum japanese bboys man
bboy katsu(from ichigeki)
of quick from ichigeki..
or kazu and bboy r. (i think) from i love foot work . mad style mad flavour
bboymango 3 years ago
everyone needs to get off of korea's dick and realise that bboying wasnt created in korea.
greenthumb4200 4 years ago
bboymyung no disrespect, but comments like his is why I can't stand many ppl on you tube. They have no sense of bboy history and think Korean bboys created everything. They don't remember that boy was busting 1 armed elbow air flares b4 KYS, or that Miracles had Born's style before he did(just not all the moves lol) and that all that originated from Crazy Legs, Ken Swift, etc. Point is you have to know your past to truly appreciate the present and future
drnoj1 4 years ago
Definitely. No one seems to remember that the only reason there is such a big Bboying community in Korea is because American Bboys went over there and taught them.
PriMeZzZ 4 years ago
no one cares.
wing and dyzee are both grimey!
jonnoo 3 years ago 2
Sweet! One of my all time favs Dyzee vs. Wing (who is hella dope). I'd give this one to Wing, but it's cool to see battles like these.
drnoj1 4 years ago
word up to holyfiremikey, it was thanh in LOZ, matter fact LOZ started all the teks in the 90's. without their innovations footwork nowadays woulda been like the rocksteady heads.
sex05 4 years ago
so hard to call... dyzee took the first round, wing took the second... why two rounds?
oddstuffandsuch 4 years ago
weres the born vs wing?
ExtremeRacer123321 4 years ago
lol look at wing's hair.
kfboi03 4 years ago
bboymung you know thats not wake up's trick right?
its called a straddle L press to handstand and has been done in gymnastics for decades foo
vi3tnamzfynest 5 years ago
THey wer both great but I htink Dyzee held the edge.
seesea89 5 years ago
did wing really take the monster battle???...i dont kno...i saw it on another clip...it said dizzy:1st, born2nd...and so on...im not sure...but wing is tite ass...
azen2004 5 years ago
yep, wing took monster battle.. he beat focus then born after this.
auroxl 5 years ago
retard.. dyzee didn't steal shit, everyone does that, ppl like bboy baek, no one bited anyone, everyone fucking does that moron. dyzee exectued his moves mad clean, so did wing. i liked both of them.
kAOOOxD 5 years ago
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wtf dat dyzee fool stole the idea of dat lotus going up trick thing from wake up's tricks. gay. only difference of his is lotus but wake-up's moves r more sick.
bboymyung 5 years ago
stfu u faggot
tonyville 5 years ago
ur a dumb piece of shit
Dyce27 5 years ago
The lotus stuff in bboying, started back before Wake-up even started breaking, back in the late 90's when Wakeup was still a little kid in middle or elementary school. One of the first to incorporate lots of yoga in to breaking, is bboy Thanh of LOZ, and later Benji, way before Wake-up was doing it, or basically before anyone was doing it. Dyzee was doing lotus stuff on breaking vids years before Wake-up was even in Expressions
Holyfiremikey 5 years ago
yeah....well in my opinion..wake up would run anybody us of the yoga style
Dqson 4 years ago
accually back in the 80's if u watch some oldschool clips youll see ppl doin lotus jackhammers(may not b the cleanest but you get my point) haha
akujin 4 years ago
Hey, I apologize if I sounded rude in my previous comment to you bro, my bad man I'm sorry.
Holyfiremikey 5 years ago
actually i look back on this and laugh lol,sorry when i commented dude i was like 14.
Dyce27 3 years ago
wing ripped beats..
wing took it no doubt
jinvaznm 5 years ago
damn wing is sick i didnt know that guy , dyzee ripped it too like always
junkybboy 5 years ago
Wing is sick he took it for sure
NateZen 5 years ago
can anyone tell what song is playing in this video???
Diluvium 5 years ago
Banbarra - Shack Up
alexeif 5 years ago
who knows the second song thankyou
chriskuo 5 years ago
sumthin like mouline rouge - holiday...don't hold me to the spelling of the artist tho
leanmeanasian 5 years ago
ty so much
schwibz 4 years ago
both did very well...wing's first set was dope...
muc 5 years ago
great battle!...ahh i thought dyzee took it tho
theguyatyoutube 5 years ago
I thought Wings took it, not by much tho
dreweet 5 years ago
Very dope battle! Thanks a lot for sharing :)
dreweet 5 years ago