When US and Israel bombed and destroyed the Syrian and Iraqi so called nuclear reactors did these Americans worried about the anger of Syrian and Iraqi ppl. NO.
When they attacked Afgh did they worry about the concerns of ppl NO. Have u ever seen Hilliary talk in any Arab country, it is like it is their colony. Aljazeera is in an Arab country and the way these Anglo US use it can be easily seen. The only reason they are polite with us is our military and nuclear capability.
America fights for economy like any other country. The problem is that America is too aggressive in her economic pursuit and she wants to remain a super power for ever which is impossilbe and against the laws of nature.
Bghl main churi mun pe ram ram. Coward terrorist USA. They are funding and providing arms to TTP and killing our innocent civilians by drone attacks. Death to USA.
These are the same Talibans the Pakistan Govt made a deal with a few months ago....you can look it up on youtube....Why don't we just pull our support for this govt and sit back and watch India take back their land!....Typical of talibans to blowup women!
Not a bad speech coming from Clinton. When she said "You are standing on the front lines of this fight..." she pretty much summed it up. The sooner the Pak. people start fighting this war the better for them and the rest of us. Attempting to de-link the global Islamic Jihad from regional religio-political movements like the Taliban is delusional and dangerous. The linkage is fundamental. At the very heart of it Alqaeda (name your terror group eg. hezbollah,etc..) Is the Taliban and vise- versa.
There's no politically correct way to clearly state the nature of this war. The language is being outlawed internationally as we speak. When Saudi Arabia is hosting a summit on "religious tolerance" doesn't that send a message to you? Besides the Taliban, and Iran, can you even think of a more religiously intolerant nation? The "War on Terror" is actually the defense of the world from Islamic fundamentalist militancy. It's Islamic Jihad vs Civilization, and we cant afford to lose, but we are.
Iran has a long history of trading and getting along respectfully with it's neighbors so i don't make a connection there. as far as the Taliban goes, just a rouge group of people who were hired by the CIA to protect the heroin routes. Clerics who in the past have called for a jihad have pretty much been cornered and disqualified as trouble makers.
Islam doesn't have a beef with other religions but everyone should have a beef with amok corruption wherever it is found.
You mean Iran under the Shah. Under the Mullocracy, they have a long history of proxy wars, interventionism and terror attacks. The Taliban was as much a creation of the Pakistani ISI as anyone else(to use against India in Kashmir, and to destablize Afghan). No Clerics have been disqualified, that's not how Islam works. Your statement that Islam has no "beef" is ridiculous, and shows a "Latenight with David Letterman" grasp of the reality of the conflict. I suggest you reread my prior comment.
Iraq wasn't such a good neighbor under Saddam, but i wouldn't go so far as to say Iran's reaction to that is an act of aggression. Germany has a long history of a good relationship with Iran and that is their neighbor, not the United States.
p.s ive never watched david letterman and thank you for the spirited debate.
We werent talking about Iraq...you mentioned Iran. If your plan is to start a tuquoque argument, please dont. BTW, Germany is no more Iran's "neighbor" than Sweden is. Iran's on a whole other continent(Asia). The topic originally was "The War on Terror(a tactic)" and clear statement of intention. As I said that language is being outlawed. How do you feel about a country which has a zero tolerance policy towards practicing any religion but Islam hosting a "Religious Tolerance Summit"?
i stick to my original comment which was neither combative or argumentative. As far as geography is concerned, there are maps online. Germany is most certainly neighbor to Iran, and they have traded with each other for thousands of years.
By your logic the USA is then "neighbors" with nearly every country on earth. If they have a Coca-Cola stand, theyre our neighbor. Persia, being an ancient civilization has traded with or invaded nearly every country in the Eastern Hemisphere. This isn't relevant to our original remarks. You ask for clarification of an issue that political correctness renders impossible. This is as I said the defense of the world from Islamic Fundamentalist Militants(war on terror(again..a tactic)) Clear as mud.
I agree that the USA has limited neighbors in every corner of the world, however it is also a fact that Fundamentalist Militants can be found not just in Islam, but in every religion including government.
Not "limited", there is no country more interconnected throughout the world the the USA, so don't short-sell us while you sing the praises of a fundamentalist Islamic theocracy...it insults my intelligence. The 2nd part of your reply is just BS. How many Germans died in suicide bombings commited by Jews in response to the Holocaust? How many Hindus died from Buddhist suicide bombings this week? How many beheaded this week-month-century by Christian Fudamentalist Crusaders? You are fooling noone.
As the torn apart, bloody bodies of their victims litter streets in nearly every city in the East, and many in the West, you have the gaul to equivocate Islamic Jihad, and it's massive bodycount with the rest of the world? Kim Jong Ill kills less people! Right now we are seeing mass-murder on a scale unmatched by anything but all out wars, and all "fisabiallah". How dare you? Either you dont comprehend what "fundamentalist militancy" means, or you are an unabashed Apologist for Islamic Jihad.
You asked for clarification of intention from the Sec. Of State, well here it is. We intend to fight to repel this latest Islamic Jihad in varying intensities as our resolve allows. While we have political weaklings and "doves" like Obama, Clinton and Carter in office, we expect to loose ground to the throat-slitters and hand-choppers and when we have men(and women) of resolve in office we will topple entire countries. Islamists take down 2 buildings-We take down 2 countries...Thats how we roll.
well that doesn't sound at all civilized. in fact those are the same policies that do not work at all in any civilized society (refer to Israel), although they make good drama in the movies..
That depends on the moral fiber of the society. Fact: For 60 years the entire Arab world has tried to exterminate the Jewish State. The Israelis won all those wars of anhilation though, but didn't exterminate the Arab States, did they... Because the Jews are more moral. If the Arabs had won, there would be no Israel. That's the difference between Islam and the world, when we win, we will rebuild their countries, while Islamic culture is the most retrograde influence on civilization in history.
That the bloody tide of Islam has ebbed and flowed throughout it's 1400 year history is fact. Each Jihad has only been stopped at the cost of blood and treasure. Poitiers 732 AD, The Crusades, Vienna 1683... All preceded by long periods of Islamic Jihad and subjugation. Historically the only thing that has ever stopped Islam's bloody march has been bloodier resistance which degraded the Caliphate's ability to prosecute Jihad. This Jihad is no different, just more high tech.(the West's advantage)
I understand all that and offer no counter point. That said, I don't see involving America with Iran or any Islamic state as good policy becase when the dust clears it is historically, the Christians, in this case the Americans, that take the heat for the "bloodshed" not the Muslims.
American involvement in Israel will eventually become the same as it is with any other country. Those guys are going to have to learn to get along with their neighbors. America can't afford the cost anymore.
"Christians"(meaning the secularly governed civilized West) "take the heat" because (for the most part) we dont really carry grudges with our antagonists historically. Perfect examples are England, Germany, Japan, Italy, and Russia(USSR)(an exception would be Vietnam). While Islamic doctrine is all about grudges. Many(most possibly) Muslims still carry a grudge over the crusades. There is no more intolerant ideology on the planet and that intolerance fuels the continued jihad. We have no choice
cont...But to fight them, since even the admission of wrongdoing creates more fuel and any offer of peace is considered weakness. Ideologically Islam paints the rest of the world into a corner. Either fight, surrender, become subservient, convert, or die. You have no counterpoint because there is none. This is the meat of this 3rd Jihad. As long as Isreal exists fundamentalist Islamic militants will use it as pretext for continued world jihad. Israel has the right to exist right where it is...
cont... and the fight has always been fueled by the Arab/Islamic doctrine. Our Involvement in Israel and aid is easily surpassed by that which we give to the combined Arab states. We give more aid to Pakistan and India than we do to Israel. Since Israel and Egypt signed a treaty there has been peace between them. Since Isreal and Jordan signed a treaty there has been peace between Them. Israel always gets attacked, always wins, then always winds up making concessions. Isreal is not the problem.
America is nothing more than traditional european thought andculture. America enjoyed a good relationship worldwide until it began to support Israel. That makes Israel Americas problem in my book.
It is bad foreign policy to become embroiled in problems with other countries period. America is unable to fix herself and the claim that America should import it's failed policies to other nations, and then mandate those failed policies with armed forces, is at best irrational.
American priciples are Not connected to European thought, but Burke, and Toqqueville...our law may be based in part on English Common Law, but America is far removed from Europe ideologically. The mere suggestion that we export failed policies is insulting considering the colonial nature of Europe and Islam for Millenia is at the heart of nearly conflict on the planet for the last century. Asia, ME conflicts, India, Africa..It's all been Europes fault...We're stuck trying to fix Europes mess.
You are a smart person, but I am still not convinced that the US should maintain a foreign policy above what is required by Geneva. I'll let you have the final word.
Sadly US engagement is required in matters which should be of no concern to us but for globalization. To find the roots of all these regional conflicts today one need look no futher than European colonialism in the 18th and 19th century, and Islamic colonialism for the 8 centuries prior. America acts in our interests, yes, but as the greatest force for good in history is often called upon to intervene on the part of our allies, and those too weak to protect themselves also(when it suits us).
Hey, F**K YOU HILARY! All I hear is you flagellating on the mic. In other words talking shit. Ever since she lost the vote for president, she has to make herself known to the world by saying bold things just to let you know that she still here and that here name keeps popping up at dinner conversations.
Lol. "who kill babies".............
lamiac2411 7 months ago
pakis are gay....dirty ppl..once went to pakistan...the worst place on earth!!
ThePseudoBasher 1 year ago
When US and Israel bombed and destroyed the Syrian and Iraqi so called nuclear reactors did these Americans worried about the anger of Syrian and Iraqi ppl. NO.
When they attacked Afgh did they worry about the concerns of ppl NO. Have u ever seen Hilliary talk in any Arab country, it is like it is their colony. Aljazeera is in an Arab country and the way these Anglo US use it can be easily seen. The only reason they are polite with us is our military and nuclear capability.
indianke2inchlully 1 year ago
hillary clinton is a piece of shit.
Obelisk3rdEye 1 year ago
America fights for economy like any other country. The problem is that America is too aggressive in her economic pursuit and she wants to remain a super power for ever which is impossilbe and against the laws of nature.
sipraomer 2 years ago
Clinton is impressive, but I must say it is a waste of time talking to these people.
ejm413 2 years ago
I didn't see any anger.
CABasque 2 years ago
Islamic Terrorist State of Pakistan has been a failed state since its inception.
Why Pakistani Islamic Terror is exported and used in U.K, India, U.S and other parts of the world.?
Why Pakistan is world centre of Islamic Terror and Jihadi.?
Why Pakistan army leaders call Islamic Terror and Jihad groups as important Strategic Assets.?
htgajjar 2 years ago
I'm surprised no one threw a shoe at her.
AwesomeTruth1982 2 years ago
DONT TRUST A WORD OF THIS LIAR BITCH.
Bghl main churi mun pe ram ram. Coward terrorist USA. They are funding and providing arms to TTP and killing our innocent civilians by drone attacks. Death to USA.
JusticeSelfEsteem4al 2 years ago
These are the same Talibans the Pakistan Govt made a deal with a few months ago....you can look it up on youtube....Why don't we just pull our support for this govt and sit back and watch India take back their land!....Typical of talibans to blowup women!
hajqbvii 2 years ago
nooooooooo NOT BABIES !
wigwambam 2 years ago
Pakistan is going to be 53rd states of America after Afghanistan & Iraq....!!! thankx to their puppets presidents....
002eden523 2 years ago
Dont you wish for that to happen... friggin Nation of Jihadis
Amazing that not one person ine audience asks ... WHY Pakistan ?
Now that the Jihad has come home to roost after exporting Jihadis to teh rest of teh world ...
This nation of Jihadis just cannot stomach its own medicine.
And HAS to gone someone to blame.
ENJOY the Jihad Colonel Mohammad wished on the world, Nation of Jihadis
OUR turn to dance on the roof tops.
Allahu Fuckburrrrrrrrrrrrr
chester1080 2 years ago
dude have fun with jihadist....!!!
002eden523 2 years ago
America intesified extremism in the region because of bombing inncent people/children with drones!
How you would you feel if your innocent family member or children was killed by a U.S drone bomb? You would retaliate. Simple as that!
BeatsRoyale 2 years ago
Not a bad speech coming from Clinton. When she said "You are standing on the front lines of this fight..." she pretty much summed it up. The sooner the Pak. people start fighting this war the better for them and the rest of us. Attempting to de-link the global Islamic Jihad from regional religio-political movements like the Taliban is delusional and dangerous. The linkage is fundamental. At the very heart of it Alqaeda (name your terror group eg. hezbollah,etc..) Is the Taliban and vise- versa.
wideawake123 2 years ago 4
Hillary needs to state clearly the intentions of the "so-called" war on terror.
the vagueness of "our way of life" isn't enough to warrant military action and putting our young men and women in harms way.
So which is it ...terrorism vs tyranny or the other way around?
dcjhrj 2 years ago
There's no politically correct way to clearly state the nature of this war. The language is being outlawed internationally as we speak. When Saudi Arabia is hosting a summit on "religious tolerance" doesn't that send a message to you? Besides the Taliban, and Iran, can you even think of a more religiously intolerant nation? The "War on Terror" is actually the defense of the world from Islamic fundamentalist militancy. It's Islamic Jihad vs Civilization, and we cant afford to lose, but we are.
wideawake123 2 years ago
Iran has a long history of trading and getting along respectfully with it's neighbors so i don't make a connection there. as far as the Taliban goes, just a rouge group of people who were hired by the CIA to protect the heroin routes. Clerics who in the past have called for a jihad have pretty much been cornered and disqualified as trouble makers.
Islam doesn't have a beef with other religions but everyone should have a beef with amok corruption wherever it is found.
dcjhrj 2 years ago
You mean Iran under the Shah. Under the Mullocracy, they have a long history of proxy wars, interventionism and terror attacks. The Taliban was as much a creation of the Pakistani ISI as anyone else(to use against India in Kashmir, and to destablize Afghan). No Clerics have been disqualified, that's not how Islam works. Your statement that Islam has no "beef" is ridiculous, and shows a "Latenight with David Letterman" grasp of the reality of the conflict. I suggest you reread my prior comment.
wideawake123 2 years ago
Iraq wasn't such a good neighbor under Saddam, but i wouldn't go so far as to say Iran's reaction to that is an act of aggression. Germany has a long history of a good relationship with Iran and that is their neighbor, not the United States.
p.s ive never watched david letterman and thank you for the spirited debate.
dcjhrj 2 years ago
We werent talking about Iraq...you mentioned Iran. If your plan is to start a tuquoque argument, please dont. BTW, Germany is no more Iran's "neighbor" than Sweden is. Iran's on a whole other continent(Asia). The topic originally was "The War on Terror(a tactic)" and clear statement of intention. As I said that language is being outlawed. How do you feel about a country which has a zero tolerance policy towards practicing any religion but Islam hosting a "Religious Tolerance Summit"?
wideawake123 2 years ago
i stick to my original comment which was neither combative or argumentative. As far as geography is concerned, there are maps online. Germany is most certainly neighbor to Iran, and they have traded with each other for thousands of years.
dcjhrj 2 years ago
By your logic the USA is then "neighbors" with nearly every country on earth. If they have a Coca-Cola stand, theyre our neighbor. Persia, being an ancient civilization has traded with or invaded nearly every country in the Eastern Hemisphere. This isn't relevant to our original remarks. You ask for clarification of an issue that political correctness renders impossible. This is as I said the defense of the world from Islamic Fundamentalist Militants(war on terror(again..a tactic)) Clear as mud.
wideawake123 2 years ago
I agree that the USA has limited neighbors in every corner of the world, however it is also a fact that Fundamentalist Militants can be found not just in Islam, but in every religion including government.
dcjhrj 2 years ago
Not "limited", there is no country more interconnected throughout the world the the USA, so don't short-sell us while you sing the praises of a fundamentalist Islamic theocracy...it insults my intelligence. The 2nd part of your reply is just BS. How many Germans died in suicide bombings commited by Jews in response to the Holocaust? How many Hindus died from Buddhist suicide bombings this week? How many beheaded this week-month-century by Christian Fudamentalist Crusaders? You are fooling noone.
wideawake123 2 years ago
As the torn apart, bloody bodies of their victims litter streets in nearly every city in the East, and many in the West, you have the gaul to equivocate Islamic Jihad, and it's massive bodycount with the rest of the world? Kim Jong Ill kills less people! Right now we are seeing mass-murder on a scale unmatched by anything but all out wars, and all "fisabiallah". How dare you? Either you dont comprehend what "fundamentalist militancy" means, or you are an unabashed Apologist for Islamic Jihad.
wideawake123 2 years ago
You asked for clarification of intention from the Sec. Of State, well here it is. We intend to fight to repel this latest Islamic Jihad in varying intensities as our resolve allows. While we have political weaklings and "doves" like Obama, Clinton and Carter in office, we expect to loose ground to the throat-slitters and hand-choppers and when we have men(and women) of resolve in office we will topple entire countries. Islamists take down 2 buildings-We take down 2 countries...Thats how we roll.
wideawake123 2 years ago
well that doesn't sound at all civilized. in fact those are the same policies that do not work at all in any civilized society (refer to Israel), although they make good drama in the movies..
dcjhrj 2 years ago
That depends on the moral fiber of the society. Fact: For 60 years the entire Arab world has tried to exterminate the Jewish State. The Israelis won all those wars of anhilation though, but didn't exterminate the Arab States, did they... Because the Jews are more moral. If the Arabs had won, there would be no Israel. That's the difference between Islam and the world, when we win, we will rebuild their countries, while Islamic culture is the most retrograde influence on civilization in history.
wideawake123 2 years ago
That the bloody tide of Islam has ebbed and flowed throughout it's 1400 year history is fact. Each Jihad has only been stopped at the cost of blood and treasure. Poitiers 732 AD, The Crusades, Vienna 1683... All preceded by long periods of Islamic Jihad and subjugation. Historically the only thing that has ever stopped Islam's bloody march has been bloodier resistance which degraded the Caliphate's ability to prosecute Jihad. This Jihad is no different, just more high tech.(the West's advantage)
wideawake123 2 years ago
I understand all that and offer no counter point. That said, I don't see involving America with Iran or any Islamic state as good policy becase when the dust clears it is historically, the Christians, in this case the Americans, that take the heat for the "bloodshed" not the Muslims.
American involvement in Israel will eventually become the same as it is with any other country. Those guys are going to have to learn to get along with their neighbors. America can't afford the cost anymore.
dcjhrj 2 years ago
"Christians"(meaning the secularly governed civilized West) "take the heat" because (for the most part) we dont really carry grudges with our antagonists historically. Perfect examples are England, Germany, Japan, Italy, and Russia(USSR)(an exception would be Vietnam). While Islamic doctrine is all about grudges. Many(most possibly) Muslims still carry a grudge over the crusades. There is no more intolerant ideology on the planet and that intolerance fuels the continued jihad. We have no choice
wideawake123 2 years ago
cont...But to fight them, since even the admission of wrongdoing creates more fuel and any offer of peace is considered weakness. Ideologically Islam paints the rest of the world into a corner. Either fight, surrender, become subservient, convert, or die. You have no counterpoint because there is none. This is the meat of this 3rd Jihad. As long as Isreal exists fundamentalist Islamic militants will use it as pretext for continued world jihad. Israel has the right to exist right where it is...
wideawake123 2 years ago
cont... and the fight has always been fueled by the Arab/Islamic doctrine. Our Involvement in Israel and aid is easily surpassed by that which we give to the combined Arab states. We give more aid to Pakistan and India than we do to Israel. Since Israel and Egypt signed a treaty there has been peace between them. Since Isreal and Jordan signed a treaty there has been peace between Them. Israel always gets attacked, always wins, then always winds up making concessions. Isreal is not the problem.
wideawake123 2 years ago
America is nothing more than traditional european thought andculture. America enjoyed a good relationship worldwide until it began to support Israel. That makes Israel Americas problem in my book.
It is bad foreign policy to become embroiled in problems with other countries period. America is unable to fix herself and the claim that America should import it's failed policies to other nations, and then mandate those failed policies with armed forces, is at best irrational.
dcjhrj 2 years ago
American priciples are Not connected to European thought, but Burke, and Toqqueville...our law may be based in part on English Common Law, but America is far removed from Europe ideologically. The mere suggestion that we export failed policies is insulting considering the colonial nature of Europe and Islam for Millenia is at the heart of nearly conflict on the planet for the last century. Asia, ME conflicts, India, Africa..It's all been Europes fault...We're stuck trying to fix Europes mess.
wideawake123 2 years ago
You are a smart person, but I am still not convinced that the US should maintain a foreign policy above what is required by Geneva. I'll let you have the final word.
dcjhrj 2 years ago
Sadly US engagement is required in matters which should be of no concern to us but for globalization. To find the roots of all these regional conflicts today one need look no futher than European colonialism in the 18th and 19th century, and Islamic colonialism for the 8 centuries prior. America acts in our interests, yes, but as the greatest force for good in history is often called upon to intervene on the part of our allies, and those too weak to protect themselves also(when it suits us).
wideawake123 2 years ago
"Standing with you" ?
More like Standing behind you and trying to fuck you up.
Sheryakahan 2 years ago
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no one cares what this bitch thinks
squirrelybmx 2 years ago
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Lol Right as she arrives 100 people die. What does that tell you?
HILLARY CLINTON CAUSED 100 DEATHS SO SHE CAN PLAY TOUGH GUY ON THE WORLD STAGE
jubinizzle 2 years ago
It tells me the wahhabi animals will do anything to get moron Christians like you to turn on their own leadership.
If they win, the prize is they get to lop your head off at half time in the name of God.
torak101 2 years ago 6
Fuck this bitch! FUCKING HO-ASS Faggot
This bitch acts like she is so fucking Great
jubinizzle 2 years ago
Hey, F**K YOU HILARY! All I hear is you flagellating on the mic. In other words talking shit. Ever since she lost the vote for president, she has to make herself known to the world by saying bold things just to let you know that she still here and that here name keeps popping up at dinner conversations.
ahhyo2006 2 years ago