The respot cells & the sweeps were the biggest headaches on those machines. We were constantly working on them, especially if a customer accidently hits the sweep with a 16 pounder. Ahhh, those were the days.....
@deesyphrr Very much so. One of my other videos, someone made a comment on there being five-year-old pins in use. Far from it. These machines aren't kind to the pins in terms of appearance.
We have a few 8230's left in MI. Wonderland Lanes in Commerce Township Mi. has a few! did'nt get to use an 8230 lane when i was there though. nice center and staff.
wonderland is a nice bowling center..it is half 82-30 half 82-70 kinda like old satellite bowl....... harbor lanes in st. clair shores has 82-30's too
The spotting cups hold the pins (for the next frame) at a 45° angle and that angle is maintained until the spotting cycle at the end of the frame (second ball or strike) when they rotate to vertical, then slightly beyond that to clear, before being raised to begin the next frame and the distributor fills the cups in sequence again.
If however you're referring to the first ball cycle, how the pins are themselves picked up: The cell below the cup has a pad that lowers onto a standing pin and is raised by the pin, which squeezes two side pads (front and rear) that lock the pin into the table. On respot, the pad is pushed up again by the pin, releasing the pads and allowing the pin to remain on the deck for the second ball. A cell failing to hold, or release, can be a problem.
I no longer work as a pinchaser. This machine probably needs a replacement gear in the table assembly, or a cam adjustment, since the spotting cups wobble as a group when the table passes the the vertical point. Replay this video - the table should go up and down and the hanging pins shouldn't move much at all, even when they drop into the cups, and especially when picked up and respotted.
The respot cells & the sweeps were the biggest headaches on those machines. We were constantly working on them, especially if a customer accidently hits the sweep with a 16 pounder. Ahhh, those were the days.....
yardhunter1 1 month ago
I bet the 82-30 was much gentler on the pins than on the Brunswick A2, where the cycle and sweep times are so much faster.
Bill25cycle 1 year ago
This things are hell on pins aren't they?
deesyphrr 3 years ago
@deesyphrr Very much so. One of my other videos, someone made a comment on there being five-year-old pins in use. Far from it. These machines aren't kind to the pins in terms of appearance.
8230PinChaser 1 year ago
We have a few 8230's left in MI. Wonderland Lanes in Commerce Township Mi. has a few! did'nt get to use an 8230 lane when i was there though. nice center and staff.
arkema202 3 years ago
There's also Hudsonville Lanes in Hudsonville, MI, and Rockford Lanes, in Rockford, MI.
CoderjoeIsTaken 2 years ago
wonderland is a nice bowling center..it is half 82-30 half 82-70 kinda like old satellite bowl....... harbor lanes in st. clair shores has 82-30's too
Gaddy1021 2 years ago
Put new gripper pads on the no. 2 respot cell and it should respot it much better than it is now.
BIGGREENLEAF1 3 years ago
I bowled at an old 8230 house, and one thing i noticed is, the full set when spotted, the pins are really wobbly,
I think the machine needs an adjustment.
EdmDude 3 years ago
wait how does those pins stay in the cups when the pin cups come down for the first ball cycle agan?
HGJYBRANDON 3 years ago
The spotting cups hold the pins (for the next frame) at a 45° angle and that angle is maintained until the spotting cycle at the end of the frame (second ball or strike) when they rotate to vertical, then slightly beyond that to clear, before being raised to begin the next frame and the distributor fills the cups in sequence again.
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8230PinChaser 3 years ago
If however you're referring to the first ball cycle, how the pins are themselves picked up: The cell below the cup has a pad that lowers onto a standing pin and is raised by the pin, which squeezes two side pads (front and rear) that lock the pin into the table. On respot, the pad is pushed up again by the pin, releasing the pads and allowing the pin to remain on the deck for the second ball. A cell failing to hold, or release, can be a problem.
8230PinChaser 3 years ago
lol, well fix it :)
I loved working on these.
ke3wh 3 years ago
I no longer work as a pinchaser. This machine probably needs a replacement gear in the table assembly, or a cam adjustment, since the spotting cups wobble as a group when the table passes the the vertical point. Replay this video - the table should go up and down and the hanging pins shouldn't move much at all, even when they drop into the cups, and especially when picked up and respotted.
8230PinChaser 3 years ago
the #2 pin is off-spot :p
EdmDude 3 years ago
Respotted the two pin off spot!
danfieldingzero 4 years ago
Yes, I addressed that in the third paragraph of the description.
8230PinChaser 4 years ago