@xXRedZephyrXx As a matter of fact, Scripture, (which we do take as truth and live by as number one, rejecting all that doesn't mesh, just to make that obvious to these folks, no hidden agenda) states that..."Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen." Just because some atheistic, unbelieving perverse dude doesn't have faith doesn't mean it isn't evidence. (I'm on your side, in case it's not clear.)
Most common christian argument about theory of big bang and sciece in general.
"Something can't come out of nothing. Therefor, the universe had to be created."
Aight. So the creator, he's always been there right? Couldn't the universe just aswell always been there? Either the "creator" hasn't always been there and was somehow created, or universe could've always been there. But you can't create something out of nothing. Either the universe could have always been there, or god is nothing. Hm?
@ThatRubikGuy You're making the common mistake of wrongly assuming He's contained or limited by, or answers to, the time, space, and matter He created. He IS the beginning and the end. Aside from Him, there is no time. Eternity is set apart from our time-space continuum. Taking Scripture as truth, before we get past Genesis 1:1, we've eliminated any possibility of the universe always having been there. You say He, unlimited, could not create something from nothing, but time+nothing can?
@chriswooten7 "He IS the beginning and the end. Aside from Him, there is no time. "
Oh god another one of those "I have no idea how shit works, so let's just say, god works in mysterious ways, you can't understand it." people. Fuck this I'm not getting into an argument with a brainwashed person that is clearly past the point of being even capable of doubting anything he's been taught by "The Scripture" written by sandal-wearing goat farmers 2000 years ago.
@ThatRubikGuy Wow, you just called God's name in your reply. It's strange, it almost seems there is an energy behind this. It actually takes effort to deny God in such an aggressive way. Assuming God is required to deny God, no? Atheists say they're capable of moral, kindness, compassion by human intellect alone, but deny that by their speech in most posts. Anyway, you weren't around for the beginning, you can assume and suppress the truth all you want, but you'll know all about the end, sir.
@chriswooten7 Yea I'll mark my calendar. When was it again? There were about 120 people in the history who were sure about the judgement day date.. Hmm I guess they were wrong.
@ThatRubikGuy ". 4 They will say, “Where is this ‘coming’ he promised? Ever since our ancestors died, everything goes on as it has since the beginning of creation.”)5 But they DELIBERATELY FORGET that long ago by God’s word the heavens came into being and the earth was formed out of water and by water. 6 By these waters also the world of that time was deluged and destroyed.(You have to know to forget. You're born with the inherent knowledge, and deep down you know His Word is true and you deny)
@chriswooten7 2 Peter 3:9..."The Lord is not slow about His promise, as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing for any to perish but for all to come to repentance." He cares for you, just as He cares for me. He certainly has more patience than me with all people, especially scoffing atheists. I will have you know that there won't be any atheists in hell. Believing will just sort of come easy by then, just without the offer of a rescue. I wish you well, man. I hope you see.
@ThatRubikGuy I do want you to consider something logically. Every time I hear atheists speak of Christianity, there's always some mention of the absolute most insane things some retard did 'In God's name' or some crackpot false prophet. They're out there, no doubt, but it's foolish to try to contain Christianity itself by the most awful things free moral agents, humans did. Then of course, there's some who really seek truth and are open, and admit seeing compassion and kindness also. A Choice.
The bible....has...virtually no PROVEN documentation, although a lot of it is based on widely believe historical theory. For instance at the time "Noah's ark" was supposed to have taken place there IS evidence of a MASSIVE flood in that part of the world. however there is not enough water on earth to cover the entire world, also the "Two of every animal" bit is just a bit silly.
@lolzomgz1337 If you equalized all hills and valleys on earth right now, the oceans would cover the surface of the earth over 12,000 feet deep worldwide. The flood was worldwide, not localized. Explain oyster shells on top of Mt. Everest. It's explained in Genesis that before the flood, the mist came up from the ground, in flood, the fountains of the deep broke open, and the mountains came down. All the water on surface creates much pressure, Grand Canyon, tectonic plates, petrified materials.
@chriswooten7 What's so silly about two of the animals, the fact that they have adapted into all the varieties we see today in just 4400 years, or is there the preconceived notion that he had to take all 'species?' "Kind" is not "Species," as this wasn't a word in Biblical times, it needs not conform to terminology from the last 150 years. 2 of the 'kind' would do just fine. I mean, it sounds much more silly than them "emerging" from rain on rocks, then of course somehow finding a mate and food.
@MrFungus420 A horse, zebra, donkey are the same kind of animal. A horse. A chihuahua, coyote, wolf, and black lab are the same kind of animal. A dog. We have declared and defined them as 'species' in the last 150 years or so. That certainly doesn't make the Bible wrong or flawed. If in 2115, they call animals 'rollas', are we wrong? Read 2 Peter 3. Verse 10 talks about the only big bang, get ready for it. Also read Hebrews 1, vs. 18-25 also. Remember the term 'homo sepian' when you read v. 22.
@chriswooten7 "(KIND-a group united by common traits or interests)"
Meaningless definition. Any two animals could be considered to be the same "kind" by that metric. Every animal has some common traits with every other animal.
And, if you accept that "beetle" is a kind, then you accept super-evolution...evolution of new species of beetles at a faster rate than anything proposed by the Theory of Evolution.
@MrFungus420 Now we're totally philosophical, which is OK. The fact is, science, philosophy, cosmology, mathematics, etc. are all practices which have limits, assuming no absolute truth and are fluctual. By this understanding, they can't possibly and totally encompass and discover our origin and destiny, and certainly can't disprove God. To truly know this as fact, you'd have to BE God, which would assume omniscience exists as well, and it's back to the drawing board once more.
@MrFungus420 Brother, there is all the reason to give credence. I apologize, but I have to admit there is a universal passion and aggressiveness to disprove God by the atheistic community. Maybe you're agnostic, I DK. But you do display unbelief in creation and the flood, which usually depicts atheism. You're 'reason' to give credence lies in the fact that you were made to last forever somewhere. This is ALL the reason we need. God's standards are so far above ours. We need His forgiveness, bro.
@chriswooten7 No. Disbelief in literal Biblical creation and in the Noachian flood just means that someone is not a Biblical literalist, and that includes many, if not most, Christians.
@MrFungus420 Maybe I should come back to you with define "Christian." Yeah, that's what I'll do. BTW, all your posts start with 'no.' Many people who call themselves Christians, and smear His name doing insane things "in the name of God" are the reason atheists have all this ammunition not to believe, I admit. It still doesn't change the living God and who He truly is. We're free moral agents, and our hearts are deceitful, and desperately wicked. (Jeremiah 17:9)
@chriswooten7 And that would just be another tactic to avoid the point that there is no meaningful definition of "kind" despite your attempt to make an argument based on the concept.
@MrFungus420 I don't know why you're so hung up on that, I'm sorry. I obviously can't give you what you want. I do believe, however, that I've given you what you needed.
@chriswooten7 Because you tried to make a point based on the concept of "kind". Without having a definition of "kind", your point fails.
When faced with that, you did everything that you could to try to avoid that your point was baseless.
To be fair, you're not alone. There is no meaningful definition of "kind". It is little more than a nonsensical word that seems to mean whatever science-deniers want it to mean at the time.
@MrFungus420 I don't deny science, bro. I love science. There have, however, been countless cases where the majority was wrong. I believe, based on God's word, not some self-mustered hunch or stubborn desire to buck the system for fun, that this is a huge example of one of those times. They simply both can't be true. I will trust the word of the creator who saved me from 25 years of addiction, and answers my prayers in such supernatural, profound ways that I can't possibly think coincidence.
@MrFungus420 The fact that the definition is not precisely what you desired (I can't read your mind) certainly doesn't make it 'meaningless.' That's absurd. "Define kind" does not command the precision or 'meaning' you claim is lacking. Man's attempts to search out the nonexistence of God will always be circular, as He filled us in from the top down, and man is looking around in his limited intellect and potential capacity for knowledge from the bottom up. If anything, THAT's meaningless!
Your "definition" was meaningless because it meant that any two animals could be considered the same "kind".
Vampire bats, mosquitoes and leeches could all be considered the same kind based on your "definition". They have common traits and interests. That is why your "definition" is meaningless.
@MrFungus420 I think if you look at the first example of horse-like and dog-like animals, you'll find common sense leads us to an idea of the definition. Ultimately, we weren't there to see what he brought with him. Beetle IS a kind of all these things listed, based on the extreme broadness of the question. Of course, I also think we can both agree that if we look through the lens of creation and the 'kind' it speaks of, this breadth is out of the range of the kinds needed to regenerate.
@chriswooten7 You sure are spending a lot of effort to avoid giving a coherent definition of "kind" while trying to look like you are talking about it.
And, again, if you accept that "beetle" is a kind, then you accept "super-evolution", evolution at a rate far exceeding anything proposed by the Theory of Evoution.
@chriswooten7 that's not how water works, and the world isnt equalised, that's why there isn't enough water...also oyster shells on top of mount Everest can be explained easily, that mountain was once a flat peace of land and probably, like many deserts, was once an ocean. Mountains "grow" and form due to tectonic activity, there wasn't always a mountain there. also due to other historic documents from the same period we KNOW it wasn't worldwide.
@lolzomgz1337 So was it flat before the flood, making it easy to cover as described? I think all the major "hilling-up" happened from all the water pressure during the flood, and before that there were no major mountains. How is it water does not 'work?' It is self-leveling and volumizing.
@chriswooten7 Also Genesis is a book, derived from scrolls which were probably mistranslated, it's fine that you have your views on the subject and i can respect that, but the Bible is circular logic "I know it's true because the bible says so, I know the bible is right because it's the word of god, I know god exists because the bible says so" It's a paradox, and far too lucid evidence to be conclusive.
@lolzomgz1337 That's a lot at stake to go on a "probably." I know it's true because of the inexhuastible depth of its content, and have studied it, applied it, and found it to be true. Ask how on earth a book written by only man, putting himself in hell without Christ, would survive 2000 years as the best seller every year, is there were no power to it. Consider it seems ridiculous, and then try to explain that away. I'm guessing you'll try, but it doesn't take God and our accountability away.
@Aryanjo wait wait wait your saying Christians are the ones to reply to comments all the time? dude all you have to do in an atheist video say thunderf00t try it say something that is provocative to atheism and expect several inbox messages and comment responses
@DeJay17Revolution I wrote religious people have a lot of time. Atheism is a religion...and if you compare these types of videos to other types, you'll see these types of vids have at least 50xs more reply's than others
@iambored456 The topic we're talking about is difficult. Seeing that there is no concrete definition of a religion, we can't really argue about it. What i would say is that Atheism can be classified as a religion in the sense that: When Atheists don't believe in God, they believe in something else and therefore technically it can be called a religion
@iambored456 I have to admit that was a pretty sharp quote. However, in order to deny God, you first have to assume God. We don't oppose things that don't exist so fervently.
@Aryanjo I'd have to go out on a limb and say that's because they it takes effort to deny God, because in order to deny God, you have to first assume God. It's not the intellect so much at work, look at their 'science.' It is their will that is so aggressive, a result of the desire to take the ultimate gamble, the most extreme, daring form of nothing for something. Anyone over 25-30 sees how fast this life goes by, and still they behave like this is eternity down here, man.
@JusBenLawyered That's light years off the mark. There's the whole missing the whole reality of a relationship with the Savior. It's a tangible, secure thing. It's no issue at all of who else believes it. There have been countless cases ion history where the majority was wrong. We have to somehow eliminate the concept that its all of some "mustered-up" human effort. There really is knowledge in our universe that has to be revealed to us for us to know, unsearchable by man, offensive as it is.
im not a scientologist but i mean as stupid as it sounds you can make every religion sound retarded, the one least effected is atheism only cause we got, you no those people who made the internet and computers and every electronic thing we use, of course there are probably thousands of ways to make fun of it though.
@lolzomgz1337 Yes, they did. Out of all fairness though, we really have no true right to claim Einstein, though we do. Einstein believed in a God of order and physical law, as he understood there must be a lawgiver. However, he openly said that he didn't believe in a personal God that cared about him. It would be almost a closed case if we count him as a Christian based on saving knowledge of Christ. It seems only logical to say that he couldn't have possibly had that. Hope he got his moment.
@JoseLR325 "They" it seems you're referring to does not exclude Christians, or any other religion. You say this as if none of these have ever pursued educational excellence. Just because they stand on the belief that the majority is wrong, that does not make them wrong. "They" also made grammar guidelines and punctuation too.
@swan6307 If we buy into the idea of millions and millions of years, we destroy the genealogy leading up to Christ. They are there for a reason. If we destroy these genealogies, the birth, death, and resurrection are all compromised. The Bible dates the earth at right around 6,000 years, so have you checked that, and if so, do you take it as truth?
@swan6307 In your comment from 2 weeks ago, you said you were a Christian. The one from 20 hours ago says agnostic. I truly want to know if you were unconverted in 2 weeks, or what?
@swan6307 We don't just walk away because everything doesn't seem logical right here, right now. The Holy Spirit speaks to you daily through Scripture, sometimes at face value, sometimes deep, and sometimes totally out of context but intensely personal, due to the fact that He sees your circumstances and wants to relate to us. There will always be things that we don't completely understand, that's the element of faith. I have sought Him 2 yrs, and seen answers in ways I could never deny it.
@chriswooten7 I really hope that you find yourself seeking Him again, bro. I don't know your age, but I've tried everything under the sun to find a thrill and satisfaction, and with the progression of time, the things of this world get more and more disgustingly unsatisfying. I'd love to think you could learn from my mistakes, but I realize He's a better teacher than me, and it takes only time to know some things for yourself. I wish you the best with love. He's always there, and you'll know.
@swan6307 I'm sorry, but by simple non-contradiction, you can't believe in the Trinity and be agnostic, by very definition of 'belief.' ..."Belief is the psychological state in which an individual holds a proposition or premise to be true." You can't have your cake and eat it too. God doesn't sell backup fire insurance policies.
@chriswooten7 sorry but my problem with religion is that people can go to hell just by being atheist and many other things, plus i just cant believe a god that loves us would make us burn in hell instead of putting our souls through therapy.
@swan6307 First, let me assure you that when we stand before Him, there will be no disagreeing with Him. In Him there is nothing false. He will make it obvious to us that we had so, so many chances to turn to Him, and rejections of Him will be thousands upon thousands. To enlighten, He does put our souls through therapy. I was a 3 pack a day cigs. and weed smoker for 25 years, cocaine for 6 years, and opiates for 6 years. He answered my cry in May 2010, and He's been my therapist since. ---->
@chriswooten7 Let me explain.You knock on a rich man's door, and informed Him you were moving in with Him permanently. You said you were a good person, you never killed or raped anybody, or anything like that. His response would surely be, "I don't know you." He's not harsh, He's specific. He told us the way. What? because you have this sense of moral and reason, maybe His should be questioned? Really? Please don't put HIM under YOUR judgement. As I've said, we aren't qualified for His job.
@swan6307 God does love everybody, so much that he gave us FREE WILL, he offers a path to salvation, if you reject that path and reject God, and Jesus Christ our savior, why should you be blessed with Heaven? he gives us a therapy for our soul everyday, its called the Bible. he gave us a savior who died for our sins so we could have a path to Heaven, his name is Jesus Christ, the son of God.
@DukeDouglasTV Thanks, bro for having my back. I hate to see people stray. However, if you truly have the Holy Spirit indwelling, it's a heart thing. No one can debate it out of us. It's in every fiber of our being. You know what I'm saying.
@gwyd619 First, there is the assumption that they really are that old. All dating methods are based on assumptions that the original content of the emissions being measured can be known, which isn't logical. Second evo's deny the flood, and are unaware of the likely conditions of higher barometer and oxygen before the flood, therefore would be very mistaken to assume constants as estimates of the original content they're measuring the remainder of. C14 is always being produced by cosmic rays.
@Iluvcheezypuss1 We're the retards, but you cant even spell Faggots correctly? Also "FAGGOTTS BITCH" makes no sense. You really should have spent more time learning.
@mindtrue63 These are theories that are only as reliable as evolution. There is no "proof" that god exists. only small flaws in Darwin's theories. Plus, this was 5 years ago. for all you know these people might have done more studies and discovered ways Darwin's theories work with these ideas. And to your "prove god doesn't exist" statement, i would like to remind you that it is impossible to disprove something. Why don't you prove to me that unicorns don't exist?
@JellayToasT Scientology: An absolute joke of a religion, there dangerous, that take money off you (you have to pay to say in and its hard to leave), they have let people die but taking people to there own "hospitals" and are a trying to force there way in tax free statues and there is a complete scam and joke.
Again...it doesn't matter what I believe......my point is...who in thier right mind is gonna say they believe the "magic" horse shit in the bible? If you truly believe it, go get some mental help immediately.
It doesn't matter what I believe. It has zero bearing over the fact that all metaphysical claims of all religions are bogus. Leave the "magic" to Disney and Copperfield. Grow up.
@Jonathanedward2010 All I'm insinuating is that if you do believe it, then why is believing the word of God anymore ridiculous than believing in things scientifically proven untrue, such as macro-evolution?
@Tyrone1898 Yes, macro-evolution. Which was proven untrue by which scientist? Oh that's right the one that got his degree in Truthology at ChristianTech. Yes, let's forget all about the fact that new species of bacteria evolve day by day, oh and that most of the biggest names in the study of evolutionary biology are Eastern Orthodox and Catholic, oh and 42,301 pieces of evidence for evolution. The guy with a cheap lab-coat, and a pretend PH.D, in a nonexistent study, from a fake college said no.
@TheBlitMaster For the record, all truly saved Christians steer far clear of Catholicism. Please don't portray lumping them with Christians. Also, we're still stuck on the fact that mutations, even beneficial for practical survival, involve reductions and eliminations in the genome, not additions to the information. That's not evidence. It could as easily be evidence of a creator giving His creation inherent gifts for survival. Not our job to disprove your claim, your job to actually prove it.
@chriswooten7 Uh no, it doesn't involve reductions in the Genome, actually study biology first. Also, you do realize without Catholicism nobody would be Christian right? Also why would you steer away from it? "Following Jesus' teachings during his Sermon on The Mount by doing good deeds in secret are worth nothing compared to belief in Jesus", Hitler believed in Jesus you know, maybe you should add something that makes a distinction between you and him. how about performing good deeds?
@humanist707 Well yes, but it does prove a point, as there are Christian Extremists such as the KKK, Westboro Baptist Church and that guy who recently blew up buildings in Norway because he hated the fact that they let in Muslims.
@TheBlitMaster There it goes again. The bottom of the barrel fakers reference. The KKK and Christianity are as far apart as that statement was from reason. PEOPLE, free moral agents, do evil things. Following the Holy Spirit will NEVER lead you into sin, therefore will never break man's laws. A claim to have been raised in church or something like that, by some psycho, is a far cry from defining someone as a Christian.
@chriswooten7 No, the KKK are Christian, I'm ashamed to admit that. But that's why I never said my kingdom was entered by faith alone. That was Satan pretending to be me while I was doing my Sermon on The Mount.
@TheBlitMaster Uh, yes it does. I just finished a biology course last term. Catholicism has absolutely no link to the mandates of Christianity. That didn't even make sense. He died for us all, believe in Him. Has nothing to do with the Satanic doctrine of the Catholics. One, I know the living God, I don't use His name to accomplish my evil agenda. I commonly pray for people, sometimes people I don't know. I have people's true best interests at heart. I'd say that sets me light years from Hitler.
@chriswooten7 Don't lie, if you took biology you would know I made you evolve from a monkey, I told Moses to right Genesis as a joke, although I knew you would believe it. Also, I didn't die for you, I'm right here. The death thing was really just a distraction to stop Mark and Timothy from badgering me. The Catholic Doctrine is the same as your's, are you insulting my book? Also, don't announce it to people when you pray, I told you only hypocrites do that, I also told you to pray in secret.
@JesusofYHWH Dude, you really need to leave the little pieces of paper with the cartoons on it alone. I know it's fun and all, but ultimately not good.
@Jonathanedward2010 May I ask if you believe that over time, a group of ancient species can turn into another group of species like how it is assumed that man evolved from primates?
@Tyrone1898 you do not understand evolution as usual. homosapien did not evolve from apes, homo sapiens and cimpanzee are both offshoots of a previous ancestor, tiger didnt evolve from lions they BOTH evolved from sabretoothcats. humans have been steadily groing over the millenia getting slightly taller, thats evolution, if we were prefectly created we would never change, wake up
@hez1919 I don't know how you can assuredly make the claim we would stay perfect, given that we have will to choose. God's job isn't open. The old argument about not 'understanding evolution' is stale, as no one does. It just boasts "I'm smart, you're dumb." A bluff. There have been 12 foot skeletons found. That one's kind of hard on your theory, n?
@chriswooten7 "God's job isn't open.", you're right. So stop taking Genesis seriously. Self why do you people still take that book literally? "There have been 12 foot skeletons found.", 12 foot skeletons of what exactly? Remember, homo sapien sapien wasn't the first species of human. So unless you answer with the correct species, 12 foot skeletons means nothing.
@JesusofYHWH Humans, you know, created by God. The real kind, not the imaginary homo sapien sexual crap. The first "species" was bigger and stronger. We're a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy to the 10000000 power, and here we are, puny and polluted. Not the other way around.
@chriswooten7 "We're a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy to the 10000000 power, and here we are, puny and polluted. Not the other way around."
I hate to burst your bubble, bucko, but that is gnosticism. That theology was rejected by the Church at the council of Nicea in 325.
Really, for someone babbling about a faith, you seem very unfamiliar with its theology.
@chriswooten7 "Humans, you know, created by God. The real kind, not the imaginary homo sapien sexual crap.", homo means human in Latin, Sapien means smart in Latin, Homo Sapien Sapien is used to refer to the subspecies of Homo Sapiens that built cities and farms to stay in one area unlike it's cousin species Homo Sapien Idaltu, which were nomads.
@leftclickben I believe proven hoaxes are 'Nebraska Man (and wife, from a pig tooth), Lucy (the guy found 3 human skulls in the same plot, and hid them under his floor in his cabin), oh, and let's not forget the guy who drilled all the holes in the sides of the skeleton as "proof"' that it had feathers. Sorry, let me clarify that I believe they are proven hoaxes, but I of course don't believe they are evidence for your theory. Maybe take them out of the textbooks, isn't that science for real?
@chriswooten7 "Sorry, let me clarify that I believe they are proven hoaxes, but I of course don't believe they are evidence for your theory."
Why would they be evidence for any theory? They are hoaxes. You are the one who claimed that 12 foot skeletons was somehow significant, but it is not. They are hoaxes. Creationist hoaxes designed to refute evolution.
"Maybe take them out of the textbooks, isn't that science for real?"
Gladly. Please show me which textbooks mention 12 foot skeletons?
@leftclickben You would have to be retarded to think they would be in textbooks. That would go against the sacred Atheist religion, you know, the tax-supported one. I was referring to the evo. hoaxes in the books. Many theories disproven years ago that they refuse to remove because they "support the evolution theory." Consider creationists are Christians, who likely won't stoop to lying to support they're own agenda. The moral standards of the Biblical authors says something in itself, also.
Re "evo. hoaxes" So it's all an "atheist conspiracy" is it? Don't make me laugh.
Re "Christians.. won't stoop to lying to support they're [sic] agenda" <-- THIS is what is wrong with your religion, your ARROGANCE to even think this... absolute BULLSHIT.
Re "moral standards of the biblical authors" These -- slavery, rape, torture, war, incest, beating slaves to death, etc, etc, etc -- these are your morals?
You really need to look at yourself and the lies that you believe.
@chriswooten7 those 12 foot skeletons dont prove there is a god and they dont prove that humans used to be taller, homo spaiens skeletons are not 12 feet, other homo species MAY have that ability, we do not,. you cant "choose" to be taller, that is DNA and evolution making that choice, and many people DO NOT understand how evolution works, and that it has flaws, now fuck off and go suckle your mamas titty some more
@hez1919 No, I suppose not, but it does seem rather hard on your theory though, seeing how everyone supposedly is getting bigger and everything. No one said you could choose to be anything. Totally irrelevant. In order for DNA and evopollution to make a choice, we would have to assume it has thought processes. Maybe it's God. And as far as not understanding it, the old, stale we're smart, you're dumb puff-up; please. And your language suggests a little tween locker room intellect. Go play!
@ryan6627 1st, as long as you live in willing, scoffing unbelief, you'll never hear Him, but please don't be so foolish as to assume I fit into your "we" category. I do hear Him. As well, one would have to be "delusional," or hallucinating to assume one's lack of experience dictates or somehow nullifies my experience. Just because your narrow road that only brakes for empiricism can't find Him, pulling everyone into your sad little cave is only a fabrication of your boxed-in mind. Meaningless.
@chriswooten7 1.Dellusion for ya! 2. boxed in mind? you believe an invisible sky daddy, a zombie, men living i fish, a devil that is as strong as your god, and stoning people to death, and I have a boxed in mind? WELL EVERY FUCKING RELIGION SAYS THEY HEAR THERE GOD, YET NONE OF YOU HAVE A SHRED OF FUCKING EVIDENCE. I DONT TOLERATE STUPIDITY!!!
@ryan6627 "You brood of vipers, how can you who are evil say anything good? For out of the overflow of the heart the mouth speaks." (Matthew 12:34, NIV) If empiricism is the ONLY way you know to find truth.Look up..."Empiricism, Modernism, Secular Humanism. You have things you believe, I just am sorry they'll never lead to satisfaction, peace, or happiness; only fleeting, temporary pleasure. I wish you well, angry one.
@chriswooten7 I can say good things. If anything, atheism causes more peace than religion. I am angry because you are just stuck in that one stupid insight. It angers me that you cant get any other view because of your "faith"
@ryan6627 You are partially tight. Religion does cause wars. However, religion is a man-made thing, following Christ (who lives, and leads us into victory, peace, and all truth) will never lead anyone into anything that contradicts law. It will bring quarrels and anger, but the anger is actually towards the message, not the messenger, people just don't realize it. "Insight" is accurate. I have many views, but will always reject what doesn't line up with God. I've appropriated it, and it's true.
@chriswooten7 Do you really understand the purpose of the Old Testament law? Please inform me of your interpretation, and I might share some info with you.
@chriswooten7 "Do you really understand the purpose of the Old Testament law? "
Well I suppose it all depends on how you view it. The historical perspective, and the one held by the Jews prior to the advent of Christianity, is that it formed the social ties by which the tribes of Israel could grow into a nation that would conquer Canaan, exterminate its inhabitants, and hold complete cultural and military dominance.
Paul in the NT says it was to convict all mankind of "sin".
@chriswooten7 "I just am sorry they'll never lead to satisfaction, peace, or happiness; only fleeting, temporary pleasure."
I'm sorry, but that is not borne out by the research. There is a correlation between degree of religious belief in the population and societal ills. The greater the number of the population professing faith, the greater the number of social ills in that culture. The obverse is also true: the fewer people professing faith, the fewer social ills.
@moopism I have studied the scientific method in psychological science, and I hope you're aware that studies are almost sure to have the person's biases and agendas compelling them for persuaded results. Religious studies likely are the most vulnerable to this. Define empiricism. I have personally played both sides now. I cried out to God in May 2010. I can personally testify that I was filled with rage, frustration, strife, bitterness, and hopelessness. His spirit inside is the total opposite.
@chriswooten7 Babble all you want. There is none so blind.... ain't that how the saying goes?
I grew up in the Baptist church and thumped the book for over 30 years, so tossing a bunch of subjective god speak at me to counter social sciences isn't impressive. I'm happy for you that your little fairy tale makes you feel better, but the reality of it is it either causes harm, or is symptomatic of a social group that fails its members. That's a fact.
@chriswooten7 i havent calle dyou stupid so dont even attempt to pull the "he is playing the im smarter than you game" people do not sutdy these subjects but think they understand them, if you dont kno whow something works you shouldnt comment on it, i dont give a fuck what you think about evoloution or if there is a god or not, i brought my language down to YOUR level so you wouldnt feel left out :) now fuck off
@hez1919 You don't have to call anyone anything to imply, or does physical evidence lead you to that conclusion? Oh, I guess you won't find that either then. FYI, I do study these subjects, it's just that I don't deny creation and the flood, which changes everything. I'm also familiar with the flaws of dating methods, and know why you're stumped. There have been many cases in history where the majority is WRONG. That's life. I sense a little hostility. God can help you with that. Love ya.
hey. at least we can all believe that scientology is total crap:D
CChaterkid2003 13 hours ago 2
@CChaterkid2003 i agree
dalekpat 1 hour ago
Well... Atheists and Christians have common ground... we all think Scientology is a load of bs!
CODfreak331 5 days ago 3
@chriswooten7 im sure later on in my education i will understand what you said more clearly.
And also i wasn't saying what i first commented about to the atheist in the video i just saying it to someone in the comments.
xXRedZephyrXx 1 week ago
What I liked better was the comic strip version of this that shows the Christian and atheist beating up the Scientologist. Lol
RighteousRebel430 1 week ago
I'm liking this clips so far. There not too bias like the original "Mac Vs. PC" ads.
Pedropapt 1 week ago
No it doesn't.
Jonathanedward2010 1 week ago
No it wouldn't. Lol....Matthew 27:52-53...crap
Jonathanedward2010 1 week ago
lolol atheist and Christians may argue sometimes but nothing brings people together like laughing at Scientology XD
MissLucyBoomer 2 weeks ago 12
That so freaking hilarious LMAO
EstacadoConstantine 2 weeks ago
0:43 Why is there an alien-ware logo?
C00lman555 2 weeks ago
This is the best one.
DevTitanwood 2 weeks ago
am I the only one that thinks whoever is playing the atheist sounds like the guy from the social network?
spazneria 2 weeks ago
christianity is not a cult if you think that you need to look up cult again god is no secret or does not hide from anyone
bigbadwolfy1977 2 weeks ago
Bloody hell its faith we believe in God with faith we don't need evidence its our believes.
xXRedZephyrXx 2 weeks ago
@xXRedZephyrXx As a matter of fact, Scripture, (which we do take as truth and live by as number one, rejecting all that doesn't mesh, just to make that obvious to these folks, no hidden agenda) states that..."Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen." Just because some atheistic, unbelieving perverse dude doesn't have faith doesn't mean it isn't evidence. (I'm on your side, in case it's not clear.)
chriswooten7 2 weeks ago
@chriswooten7 That was Hebrews 11:1, King James version, BTW. Sorry for not citing.
chriswooten7 2 weeks ago
Most common christian argument about theory of big bang and sciece in general.
"Something can't come out of nothing. Therefor, the universe had to be created."
Aight. So the creator, he's always been there right? Couldn't the universe just aswell always been there? Either the "creator" hasn't always been there and was somehow created, or universe could've always been there. But you can't create something out of nothing. Either the universe could have always been there, or god is nothing. Hm?
ThatRubikGuy 2 weeks ago
@ThatRubikGuy You're making the common mistake of wrongly assuming He's contained or limited by, or answers to, the time, space, and matter He created. He IS the beginning and the end. Aside from Him, there is no time. Eternity is set apart from our time-space continuum. Taking Scripture as truth, before we get past Genesis 1:1, we've eliminated any possibility of the universe always having been there. You say He, unlimited, could not create something from nothing, but time+nothing can?
chriswooten7 2 weeks ago
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@chriswooten7 "He IS the beginning and the end. Aside from Him, there is no time. "
Oh god another one of those "I have no idea how shit works, so let's just say, god works in mysterious ways, you can't understand it." people. Fuck this I'm not getting into an argument with a brainwashed person that is clearly past the point of being even capable of doubting anything he's been taught by "The Scripture" written by sandal-wearing goat farmers 2000 years ago.
ThatRubikGuy 2 weeks ago
@ThatRubikGuy Wow, you just called God's name in your reply. It's strange, it almost seems there is an energy behind this. It actually takes effort to deny God in such an aggressive way. Assuming God is required to deny God, no? Atheists say they're capable of moral, kindness, compassion by human intellect alone, but deny that by their speech in most posts. Anyway, you weren't around for the beginning, you can assume and suppress the truth all you want, but you'll know all about the end, sir.
chriswooten7 2 weeks ago
@chriswooten7 Yea I'll mark my calendar. When was it again? There were about 120 people in the history who were sure about the judgement day date.. Hmm I guess they were wrong.
ThatRubikGuy 2 weeks ago
@ThatRubikGuy ". 4 They will say, “Where is this ‘coming’ he promised? Ever since our ancestors died, everything goes on as it has since the beginning of creation.”)5 But they DELIBERATELY FORGET that long ago by God’s word the heavens came into being and the earth was formed out of water and by water. 6 By these waters also the world of that time was deluged and destroyed.(You have to know to forget. You're born with the inherent knowledge, and deep down you know His Word is true and you deny)
chriswooten7 2 weeks ago
@chriswooten7 2 Peter 3:9..."The Lord is not slow about His promise, as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing for any to perish but for all to come to repentance." He cares for you, just as He cares for me. He certainly has more patience than me with all people, especially scoffing atheists. I will have you know that there won't be any atheists in hell. Believing will just sort of come easy by then, just without the offer of a rescue. I wish you well, man. I hope you see.
chriswooten7 2 weeks ago
@ThatRubikGuy I do want you to consider something logically. Every time I hear atheists speak of Christianity, there's always some mention of the absolute most insane things some retard did 'In God's name' or some crackpot false prophet. They're out there, no doubt, but it's foolish to try to contain Christianity itself by the most awful things free moral agents, humans did. Then of course, there's some who really seek truth and are open, and admit seeing compassion and kindness also. A Choice.
chriswooten7 2 weeks ago
The bible....has...virtually no PROVEN documentation, although a lot of it is based on widely believe historical theory. For instance at the time "Noah's ark" was supposed to have taken place there IS evidence of a MASSIVE flood in that part of the world. however there is not enough water on earth to cover the entire world, also the "Two of every animal" bit is just a bit silly.
lolzomgz1337 2 weeks ago
@lolzomgz1337 If you equalized all hills and valleys on earth right now, the oceans would cover the surface of the earth over 12,000 feet deep worldwide. The flood was worldwide, not localized. Explain oyster shells on top of Mt. Everest. It's explained in Genesis that before the flood, the mist came up from the ground, in flood, the fountains of the deep broke open, and the mountains came down. All the water on surface creates much pressure, Grand Canyon, tectonic plates, petrified materials.
chriswooten7 2 weeks ago
@chriswooten7 What's so silly about two of the animals, the fact that they have adapted into all the varieties we see today in just 4400 years, or is there the preconceived notion that he had to take all 'species?' "Kind" is not "Species," as this wasn't a word in Biblical times, it needs not conform to terminology from the last 150 years. 2 of the 'kind' would do just fine. I mean, it sounds much more silly than them "emerging" from rain on rocks, then of course somehow finding a mate and food.
chriswooten7 2 weeks ago
@chriswooten7 Define "kind".
Is "beetle" a "kind"?
MrFungus420 2 weeks ago
@MrFungus420 A horse, zebra, donkey are the same kind of animal. A horse. A chihuahua, coyote, wolf, and black lab are the same kind of animal. A dog. We have declared and defined them as 'species' in the last 150 years or so. That certainly doesn't make the Bible wrong or flawed. If in 2115, they call animals 'rollas', are we wrong? Read 2 Peter 3. Verse 10 talks about the only big bang, get ready for it. Also read Hebrews 1, vs. 18-25 also. Remember the term 'homo sepian' when you read v. 22.
chriswooten7 2 weeks ago
@chriswooten7 You did not give any sort of definition for "kind".
You did not answer my question if "beetle" is a kind.
MrFungus420 2 weeks ago
@MrFungus420 (KIND--a group united by common traits or interests.)
Beetle has to be a kind, think man. Everything living has to be a kind of sorts.
It's a kind of insect. It's a kind of bug. It's a kind of organism. It's a kind of life form.
As far as what would possibly be required on the ark, it's a kind of hard-bodied, sheath-winged insect, would be a good guess, I suppose.
chriswooten7 2 weeks ago
@chriswooten7 "(KIND-a group united by common traits or interests)"
Meaningless definition. Any two animals could be considered to be the same "kind" by that metric. Every animal has some common traits with every other animal.
And, if you accept that "beetle" is a kind, then you accept super-evolution...evolution of new species of beetles at a faster rate than anything proposed by the Theory of Evolution.
MrFungus420 2 weeks ago 8
@MrFungus420 Now we're totally philosophical, which is OK. The fact is, science, philosophy, cosmology, mathematics, etc. are all practices which have limits, assuming no absolute truth and are fluctual. By this understanding, they can't possibly and totally encompass and discover our origin and destiny, and certainly can't disprove God. To truly know this as fact, you'd have to BE God, which would assume omniscience exists as well, and it's back to the drawing board once more.
chriswooten7 2 weeks ago
@chriswooten7 There is no need to try to "disprove God".
There is no reason to give any credence to the claims that a god exists.
MrFungus420 2 weeks ago
@MrFungus420 Brother, there is all the reason to give credence. I apologize, but I have to admit there is a universal passion and aggressiveness to disprove God by the atheistic community. Maybe you're agnostic, I DK. But you do display unbelief in creation and the flood, which usually depicts atheism. You're 'reason' to give credence lies in the fact that you were made to last forever somewhere. This is ALL the reason we need. God's standards are so far above ours. We need His forgiveness, bro.
chriswooten7 2 weeks ago
@chriswooten7 No. Disbelief in literal Biblical creation and in the Noachian flood just means that someone is not a Biblical literalist, and that includes many, if not most, Christians.
MrFungus420 2 weeks ago
@MrFungus420 Maybe I should come back to you with define "Christian." Yeah, that's what I'll do. BTW, all your posts start with 'no.' Many people who call themselves Christians, and smear His name doing insane things "in the name of God" are the reason atheists have all this ammunition not to believe, I admit. It still doesn't change the living God and who He truly is. We're free moral agents, and our hearts are deceitful, and desperately wicked. (Jeremiah 17:9)
chriswooten7 2 weeks ago
@chriswooten7 And that would just be another tactic to avoid the point that there is no meaningful definition of "kind" despite your attempt to make an argument based on the concept.
MrFungus420 1 week ago
@MrFungus420 I don't know why you're so hung up on that, I'm sorry. I obviously can't give you what you want. I do believe, however, that I've given you what you needed.
chriswooten7 1 week ago
@chriswooten7 Because you tried to make a point based on the concept of "kind". Without having a definition of "kind", your point fails.
When faced with that, you did everything that you could to try to avoid that your point was baseless.
To be fair, you're not alone. There is no meaningful definition of "kind". It is little more than a nonsensical word that seems to mean whatever science-deniers want it to mean at the time.
MrFungus420 1 week ago
@MrFungus420 I don't deny science, bro. I love science. There have, however, been countless cases where the majority was wrong. I believe, based on God's word, not some self-mustered hunch or stubborn desire to buck the system for fun, that this is a huge example of one of those times. They simply both can't be true. I will trust the word of the creator who saved me from 25 years of addiction, and answers my prayers in such supernatural, profound ways that I can't possibly think coincidence.
chriswooten7 1 week ago
@MrFungus420 The fact that the definition is not precisely what you desired (I can't read your mind) certainly doesn't make it 'meaningless.' That's absurd. "Define kind" does not command the precision or 'meaning' you claim is lacking. Man's attempts to search out the nonexistence of God will always be circular, as He filled us in from the top down, and man is looking around in his limited intellect and potential capacity for knowledge from the bottom up. If anything, THAT's meaningless!
chriswooten7 2 weeks ago
@chriswooten7 No.
Your "definition" was meaningless because it meant that any two animals could be considered the same "kind".
Vampire bats, mosquitoes and leeches could all be considered the same kind based on your "definition". They have common traits and interests. That is why your "definition" is meaningless.
MrFungus420 2 weeks ago
@MrFungus420 I think if you look at the first example of horse-like and dog-like animals, you'll find common sense leads us to an idea of the definition. Ultimately, we weren't there to see what he brought with him. Beetle IS a kind of all these things listed, based on the extreme broadness of the question. Of course, I also think we can both agree that if we look through the lens of creation and the 'kind' it speaks of, this breadth is out of the range of the kinds needed to regenerate.
chriswooten7 2 weeks ago
@chriswooten7 You sure are spending a lot of effort to avoid giving a coherent definition of "kind" while trying to look like you are talking about it.
And, again, if you accept that "beetle" is a kind, then you accept "super-evolution", evolution at a rate far exceeding anything proposed by the Theory of Evoution.
MrFungus420 2 weeks ago
@chriswooten7 that's not how water works, and the world isnt equalised, that's why there isn't enough water...also oyster shells on top of mount Everest can be explained easily, that mountain was once a flat peace of land and probably, like many deserts, was once an ocean. Mountains "grow" and form due to tectonic activity, there wasn't always a mountain there. also due to other historic documents from the same period we KNOW it wasn't worldwide.
lolzomgz1337 2 weeks ago
@lolzomgz1337 So was it flat before the flood, making it easy to cover as described? I think all the major "hilling-up" happened from all the water pressure during the flood, and before that there were no major mountains. How is it water does not 'work?' It is self-leveling and volumizing.
chriswooten7 2 weeks ago
@chriswooten7 Also Genesis is a book, derived from scrolls which were probably mistranslated, it's fine that you have your views on the subject and i can respect that, but the Bible is circular logic "I know it's true because the bible says so, I know the bible is right because it's the word of god, I know god exists because the bible says so" It's a paradox, and far too lucid evidence to be conclusive.
lolzomgz1337 2 weeks ago
@lolzomgz1337 That's a lot at stake to go on a "probably." I know it's true because of the inexhuastible depth of its content, and have studied it, applied it, and found it to be true. Ask how on earth a book written by only man, putting himself in hell without Christ, would survive 2000 years as the best seller every year, is there were no power to it. Consider it seems ridiculous, and then try to explain that away. I'm guessing you'll try, but it doesn't take God and our accountability away.
chriswooten7 2 weeks ago
WOW..really keen religious people seem to have a lot of time on their hands to reply to comments
Aryanjo 3 weeks ago 16
@Aryanjo not really, it takes like 3 and a half seconds.
lolzomgz1337 2 weeks ago
@Aryanjo wait wait wait your saying Christians are the ones to reply to comments all the time? dude all you have to do in an atheist video say thunderf00t try it say something that is provocative to atheism and expect several inbox messages and comment responses
DeJay17Revolution 2 weeks ago
@DeJay17Revolution I wrote religious people have a lot of time. Atheism is a religion...and if you compare these types of videos to other types, you'll see these types of vids have at least 50xs more reply's than others
Aryanjo 2 weeks ago
@Aryanjo If Atheism is a religion, by your logic, does that mean baldness is a hair color?
iambored456 2 weeks ago
@iambored456 The topic we're talking about is difficult. Seeing that there is no concrete definition of a religion, we can't really argue about it. What i would say is that Atheism can be classified as a religion in the sense that: When Atheists don't believe in God, they believe in something else and therefore technically it can be called a religion
Aryanjo 2 weeks ago
@iambored456 I have to admit that was a pretty sharp quote. However, in order to deny God, you first have to assume God. We don't oppose things that don't exist so fervently.
chriswooten7 1 week ago
@Aryanjo I'd have to go out on a limb and say that's because they it takes effort to deny God, because in order to deny God, you have to first assume God. It's not the intellect so much at work, look at their 'science.' It is their will that is so aggressive, a result of the desire to take the ultimate gamble, the most extreme, daring form of nothing for something. Anyone over 25-30 sees how fast this life goes by, and still they behave like this is eternity down here, man.
chriswooten7 2 weeks ago
@Aryanjo so do atheists :)
serooter 1 week ago
@serooter i agree
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Go to atheismdestroyed.webs.com! All you Atheists and Christians come ask your questions and state your statements and lets see the TRUTH.
atheismdestroyed 3 weeks ago
it was a little one-sided at first but it all balanced out at the end
Minakou1 3 weeks ago
The christians Claim to evidence is a Ad Argumentum Populus. Lots of people believe it so it must be right. HOGWASH!
JusBenLawyered 3 weeks ago
@JusBenLawyered That's light years off the mark. There's the whole missing the whole reality of a relationship with the Savior. It's a tangible, secure thing. It's no issue at all of who else believes it. There have been countless cases ion history where the majority was wrong. We have to somehow eliminate the concept that its all of some "mustered-up" human effort. There really is knowledge in our universe that has to be revealed to us for us to know, unsearchable by man, offensive as it is.
chriswooten7 1 week ago
im not a scientologist but i mean as stupid as it sounds you can make every religion sound retarded, the one least effected is atheism only cause we got, you no those people who made the internet and computers and every electronic thing we use, of course there are probably thousands of ways to make fun of it though.
JoseLR325 3 weeks ago
@JoseLR325 I'm pretty sure a good proportion of the scientists which created the things you mentioned had a strong belief in god.
lolzomgz1337 2 weeks ago
@lolzomgz1337 Yes, they did. Out of all fairness though, we really have no true right to claim Einstein, though we do. Einstein believed in a God of order and physical law, as he understood there must be a lawgiver. However, he openly said that he didn't believe in a personal God that cared about him. It would be almost a closed case if we count him as a Christian based on saving knowledge of Christ. It seems only logical to say that he couldn't have possibly had that. Hope he got his moment.
chriswooten7 1 week ago
@JoseLR325 "They" it seems you're referring to does not exclude Christians, or any other religion. You say this as if none of these have ever pursued educational excellence. Just because they stand on the belief that the majority is wrong, that does not make them wrong. "They" also made grammar guidelines and punctuation too.
chriswooten7 1 week ago
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peace plz check rekkitten on youtube will b shocked peace
thelebirtyangels 3 weeks ago
Which religion is supposed to "win" in these?
TheIronChimera 3 weeks ago
If the world is only 1000s of years old then what about fossils that are millions of years old Christians pleas explain
gwyd619 4 weeks ago
@gwyd619 I'm a christian yet i don't think the world "is only 1000s of years old", why does everyone think all Christians are the same. damn
swan6307 4 weeks ago
@swan6307 If we buy into the idea of millions and millions of years, we destroy the genealogy leading up to Christ. They are there for a reason. If we destroy these genealogies, the birth, death, and resurrection are all compromised. The Bible dates the earth at right around 6,000 years, so have you checked that, and if so, do you take it as truth?
chriswooten7 1 week ago
@chriswooten7 im sorry but that comment was not necessary as i am agnostic now, so i dont really take it as the truth.
swan6307 1 week ago
@swan6307 In your comment from 2 weeks ago, you said you were a Christian. The one from 20 hours ago says agnostic. I truly want to know if you were unconverted in 2 weeks, or what?
chriswooten7 1 week ago
@chriswooten7 Sorry, I think I responded to someone else, my bad.
chriswooten7 1 week ago
@chriswooten7 i realized that there were some things that doesnt make sense in the bible, so i just changed
swan6307 1 week ago
@swan6307 We don't just walk away because everything doesn't seem logical right here, right now. The Holy Spirit speaks to you daily through Scripture, sometimes at face value, sometimes deep, and sometimes totally out of context but intensely personal, due to the fact that He sees your circumstances and wants to relate to us. There will always be things that we don't completely understand, that's the element of faith. I have sought Him 2 yrs, and seen answers in ways I could never deny it.
chriswooten7 1 week ago
@chriswooten7 I really hope that you find yourself seeking Him again, bro. I don't know your age, but I've tried everything under the sun to find a thrill and satisfaction, and with the progression of time, the things of this world get more and more disgustingly unsatisfying. I'd love to think you could learn from my mistakes, but I realize He's a better teacher than me, and it takes only time to know some things for yourself. I wish you the best with love. He's always there, and you'll know.
chriswooten7 1 week ago
@chriswooten7 i still believe in the holy spirit, i still believe in jesus and god, im just agnostic at the moment
swan6307 1 week ago
@swan6307 I'm sorry, but by simple non-contradiction, you can't believe in the Trinity and be agnostic, by very definition of 'belief.' ..."Belief is the psychological state in which an individual holds a proposition or premise to be true." You can't have your cake and eat it too. God doesn't sell backup fire insurance policies.
chriswooten7 1 week ago
@chriswooten7 sorry but my problem with religion is that people can go to hell just by being atheist and many other things, plus i just cant believe a god that loves us would make us burn in hell instead of putting our souls through therapy.
swan6307 1 week ago
@swan6307 First, let me assure you that when we stand before Him, there will be no disagreeing with Him. In Him there is nothing false. He will make it obvious to us that we had so, so many chances to turn to Him, and rejections of Him will be thousands upon thousands. To enlighten, He does put our souls through therapy. I was a 3 pack a day cigs. and weed smoker for 25 years, cocaine for 6 years, and opiates for 6 years. He answered my cry in May 2010, and He's been my therapist since. ---->
chriswooten7 1 week ago
@chriswooten7 Let me explain.You knock on a rich man's door, and informed Him you were moving in with Him permanently. You said you were a good person, you never killed or raped anybody, or anything like that. His response would surely be, "I don't know you." He's not harsh, He's specific. He told us the way. What? because you have this sense of moral and reason, maybe His should be questioned? Really? Please don't put HIM under YOUR judgement. As I've said, we aren't qualified for His job.
chriswooten7 1 week ago
@swan6307 God does love everybody, so much that he gave us FREE WILL, he offers a path to salvation, if you reject that path and reject God, and Jesus Christ our savior, why should you be blessed with Heaven? he gives us a therapy for our soul everyday, its called the Bible. he gave us a savior who died for our sins so we could have a path to Heaven, his name is Jesus Christ, the son of God.
DukeDouglasTV 1 week ago
@DukeDouglasTV Thanks, bro for having my back. I hate to see people stray. However, if you truly have the Holy Spirit indwelling, it's a heart thing. No one can debate it out of us. It's in every fiber of our being. You know what I'm saying.
chriswooten7 1 week ago
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@gwyd619 First, there is the assumption that they really are that old. All dating methods are based on assumptions that the original content of the emissions being measured can be known, which isn't logical. Second evo's deny the flood, and are unaware of the likely conditions of higher barometer and oxygen before the flood, therefore would be very mistaken to assume constants as estimates of the original content they're measuring the remainder of. C14 is always being produced by cosmic rays.
chriswooten7 1 week ago
these videos are really biased...
WorkJoker 1 month ago
If Scientology is right religion. ( which its not) then we are all fucked.
TheTrevman1234 1 month ago
ATHEISM ISNT REAL AND CHRISTIANITY ISN'T REAL. YOU'RE ALL RETARDS HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHFAGGOTTS BITCH LOLOLLOLLLL
Iluvcheezypuss1 1 month ago
@Iluvcheezypuss1 We're the retards, but you cant even spell Faggots correctly? Also "FAGGOTTS BITCH" makes no sense. You really should have spent more time learning.
ryan6627 1 month ago
@ryan6627 u fukin stuped man gtfo my ass u faggg nd quit hatin on me
Iluvcheezypuss1 1 month ago
@Iluvcheezypuss1 hey, you're the one insisting me to be on your ass, so i would say you're the faggg
ryan6627 1 month ago
@ryan6627 u r nt a blver fuk u
Iluvcheezypuss1 1 month ago
@Iluvcheezypuss1 For fuck's sake, use correct grammar.
StayStrongAndBrutal 1 month ago
@StayStrongAndBrutal dnt be complte fag 2 me u fukfurd
Iluvcheezypuss1 1 month ago
@ryan6627 Forgive him, he knows not what he does....
chriswooten7 1 week ago
@chriswooten7 What?
ryan6627 1 week ago
@ryan6627 Never mind, go back to sleep.
chriswooten7 1 week ago
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ryan6627 1 week ago
ಠ_ಠ Somebody doesn't know how to use a multimeter
leerman22 1 month ago
@leerman22 What? I don't follow, it's out of simple, sick curiosity I ask what that meant.
chriswooten7 1 week ago
Aliens, YEAH!
halolIlmao0 1 month ago
lol i love this
BlackNeon9 1 month ago
There a comic I saw on rationalwiki similiar to this only the christian and atheist beat the Scientology up with a bat in it
Sammygirl1231 1 month ago
Okay, if i a scientologist comes in, you know we gotta have a preacher come in also!
tiffany09871 1 month ago
This video is stupid!
92marxist 1 month ago
@mindtrue63 These are theories that are only as reliable as evolution. There is no "proof" that god exists. only small flaws in Darwin's theories. Plus, this was 5 years ago. for all you know these people might have done more studies and discovered ways Darwin's theories work with these ideas. And to your "prove god doesn't exist" statement, i would like to remind you that it is impossible to disprove something. Why don't you prove to me that unicorns don't exist?
KaryK96 1 month ago
want me to check your thetans
LOL!!!! what a n00b
woo atheist :D
imthedoctor10 1 month ago
its so true christen vs atheist but we all have a little joke call Scientology
sschmtty1 2 months ago 10
Im a huge believer of god and christ myself but this is pretty funny
giggle2154 2 months ago
What's a scientologist
JellayToasT 2 months ago
@JellayToasT Scientology: An absolute joke of a religion, there dangerous, that take money off you (you have to pay to say in and its hard to leave), they have let people die but taking people to there own "hospitals" and are a trying to force there way in tax free statues and there is a complete scam and joke.
gooders1002 1 month ago
@gooders1002 scientology isn't real you dumb fuck.
Iluvcheezypuss1 1 month ago
@Iluvcheezypuss1 I was being sarcastic, of course it its like the church of the FSM, you dumb fuck.
gooders1002 3 weeks ago
@gooders1002 Wow, they may go to war with the Masons, if they're not already merged!
chriswooten7 1 week ago
Let's all get along... All you guys are blaintly arguing over nothing that will get you no where. Just shut... the fuck... up, people.
erpuzzetta01 2 months ago
Those crazy Scientologists!
GarrettInShadows 2 months ago
well, we all atheist and cristian are right in this, scientology is for nuts.
finally a good video :)
Dibujoton88 2 months ago
You mean that it's ignorant for me to not believe in a talking donkey? Numbers chapter 22. Lol....i think its ignorance for me to believe that crap
Jonathanedward2010 2 months ago
@Jonathanedward2010 Do you buy into the idea that you came from soup? That would be so much more of a fairy tale.
chriswooten7 1 week ago
Scientology, Uniting Christians and Atheists against a common cause. Love them for that.
DanMarik 2 months ago
I love these, Scientology lol might as well have put a Mormon in the end
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Again...it doesn't matter what I believe......my point is...who in thier right mind is gonna say they believe the "magic" horse shit in the bible? If you truly believe it, go get some mental help immediately.
Jonathanedward2010 2 months ago
@Jonathanedward2010 Your ignorance is showing.....just what all atheists have....
ECGELSV 2 months ago
It doesn't matter what I believe. It has zero bearing over the fact that all metaphysical claims of all religions are bogus. Leave the "magic" to Disney and Copperfield. Grow up.
Jonathanedward2010 2 months ago
@Jonathanedward2010 All I'm insinuating is that if you do believe it, then why is believing the word of God anymore ridiculous than believing in things scientifically proven untrue, such as macro-evolution?
Tyrone1898 2 months ago
@Tyrone1898 Yes, macro-evolution. Which was proven untrue by which scientist? Oh that's right the one that got his degree in Truthology at ChristianTech. Yes, let's forget all about the fact that new species of bacteria evolve day by day, oh and that most of the biggest names in the study of evolutionary biology are Eastern Orthodox and Catholic, oh and 42,301 pieces of evidence for evolution. The guy with a cheap lab-coat, and a pretend PH.D, in a nonexistent study, from a fake college said no.
TheBlitMaster 1 month ago
@TheBlitMaster For the record, all truly saved Christians steer far clear of Catholicism. Please don't portray lumping them with Christians. Also, we're still stuck on the fact that mutations, even beneficial for practical survival, involve reductions and eliminations in the genome, not additions to the information. That's not evidence. It could as easily be evidence of a creator giving His creation inherent gifts for survival. Not our job to disprove your claim, your job to actually prove it.
chriswooten7 1 week ago
@chriswooten7 Uh no, it doesn't involve reductions in the Genome, actually study biology first. Also, you do realize without Catholicism nobody would be Christian right? Also why would you steer away from it? "Following Jesus' teachings during his Sermon on The Mount by doing good deeds in secret are worth nothing compared to belief in Jesus", Hitler believed in Jesus you know, maybe you should add something that makes a distinction between you and him. how about performing good deeds?
TheBlitMaster 1 week ago
@TheBlitMaster using the Hitler argument isn't exactly useful... Hitler was, if anything, a paradox when it came to his religious views...
humanist707 1 week ago
@humanist707 Well yes, but it does prove a point, as there are Christian Extremists such as the KKK, Westboro Baptist Church and that guy who recently blew up buildings in Norway because he hated the fact that they let in Muslims.
TheBlitMaster 1 week ago
@TheBlitMaster There it goes again. The bottom of the barrel fakers reference. The KKK and Christianity are as far apart as that statement was from reason. PEOPLE, free moral agents, do evil things. Following the Holy Spirit will NEVER lead you into sin, therefore will never break man's laws. A claim to have been raised in church or something like that, by some psycho, is a far cry from defining someone as a Christian.
chriswooten7 1 week ago
@chriswooten7 No, the KKK are Christian, I'm ashamed to admit that. But that's why I never said my kingdom was entered by faith alone. That was Satan pretending to be me while I was doing my Sermon on The Mount.
JesusofYHWH 1 week ago
@TheBlitMaster Uh, yes it does. I just finished a biology course last term. Catholicism has absolutely no link to the mandates of Christianity. That didn't even make sense. He died for us all, believe in Him. Has nothing to do with the Satanic doctrine of the Catholics. One, I know the living God, I don't use His name to accomplish my evil agenda. I commonly pray for people, sometimes people I don't know. I have people's true best interests at heart. I'd say that sets me light years from Hitler.
chriswooten7 1 week ago
@chriswooten7 Don't lie, if you took biology you would know I made you evolve from a monkey, I told Moses to right Genesis as a joke, although I knew you would believe it. Also, I didn't die for you, I'm right here. The death thing was really just a distraction to stop Mark and Timothy from badgering me. The Catholic Doctrine is the same as your's, are you insulting my book? Also, don't announce it to people when you pray, I told you only hypocrites do that, I also told you to pray in secret.
JesusofYHWH 1 week ago
@JesusofYHWH Dude, you really need to leave the little pieces of paper with the cartoons on it alone. I know it's fun and all, but ultimately not good.
chriswooten7 1 week ago
Walking on water is ridiculous. So is a talking snake. Dumb.
Jonathanedward2010 2 months ago
@Jonathanedward2010 May I ask if you believe that over time, a group of ancient species can turn into another group of species like how it is assumed that man evolved from primates?
Tyrone1898 2 months ago
@Tyrone1898 you do not understand evolution as usual. homosapien did not evolve from apes, homo sapiens and cimpanzee are both offshoots of a previous ancestor, tiger didnt evolve from lions they BOTH evolved from sabretoothcats. humans have been steadily groing over the millenia getting slightly taller, thats evolution, if we were prefectly created we would never change, wake up
hez1919 2 months ago
@hez1919 I don't know how you can assuredly make the claim we would stay perfect, given that we have will to choose. God's job isn't open. The old argument about not 'understanding evolution' is stale, as no one does. It just boasts "I'm smart, you're dumb." A bluff. There have been 12 foot skeletons found. That one's kind of hard on your theory, n?
chriswooten7 1 week ago
@chriswooten7 "God's job isn't open.", you're right. So stop taking Genesis seriously. Self why do you people still take that book literally? "There have been 12 foot skeletons found.", 12 foot skeletons of what exactly? Remember, homo sapien sapien wasn't the first species of human. So unless you answer with the correct species, 12 foot skeletons means nothing.
JesusofYHWH 1 week ago
@JesusofYHWH Humans, you know, created by God. The real kind, not the imaginary homo sapien sexual crap. The first "species" was bigger and stronger. We're a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy to the 10000000 power, and here we are, puny and polluted. Not the other way around.
chriswooten7 1 week ago
@chriswooten7 "We're a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy to the 10000000 power, and here we are, puny and polluted. Not the other way around."
I hate to burst your bubble, bucko, but that is gnosticism. That theology was rejected by the Church at the council of Nicea in 325.
Really, for someone babbling about a faith, you seem very unfamiliar with its theology.
moopism 1 week ago
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@chriswooten7 "Humans, you know, created by God. The real kind, not the imaginary homo sapien sexual crap.", homo means human in Latin, Sapien means smart in Latin, Homo Sapien Sapien is used to refer to the subspecies of Homo Sapiens that built cities and farms to stay in one area unlike it's cousin species Homo Sapien Idaltu, which were nomads.
JesusofYHWH 6 days ago
@chriswooten7 12 foot skeletons -- what other proven hoaxes do you believe?
leftclickben 1 week ago
@leftclickben I believe proven hoaxes are 'Nebraska Man (and wife, from a pig tooth), Lucy (the guy found 3 human skulls in the same plot, and hid them under his floor in his cabin), oh, and let's not forget the guy who drilled all the holes in the sides of the skeleton as "proof"' that it had feathers. Sorry, let me clarify that I believe they are proven hoaxes, but I of course don't believe they are evidence for your theory. Maybe take them out of the textbooks, isn't that science for real?
chriswooten7 1 week ago
@chriswooten7 "Sorry, let me clarify that I believe they are proven hoaxes, but I of course don't believe they are evidence for your theory."
Why would they be evidence for any theory? They are hoaxes. You are the one who claimed that 12 foot skeletons was somehow significant, but it is not. They are hoaxes. Creationist hoaxes designed to refute evolution.
"Maybe take them out of the textbooks, isn't that science for real?"
Gladly. Please show me which textbooks mention 12 foot skeletons?
leftclickben 1 week ago
@leftclickben You would have to be retarded to think they would be in textbooks. That would go against the sacred Atheist religion, you know, the tax-supported one. I was referring to the evo. hoaxes in the books. Many theories disproven years ago that they refuse to remove because they "support the evolution theory." Consider creationists are Christians, who likely won't stoop to lying to support they're own agenda. The moral standards of the Biblical authors says something in itself, also.
chriswooten7 1 week ago
@chriswooten7
Re "evo. hoaxes" So it's all an "atheist conspiracy" is it? Don't make me laugh.
Re "Christians.. won't stoop to lying to support they're [sic] agenda" <-- THIS is what is wrong with your religion, your ARROGANCE to even think this... absolute BULLSHIT.
Re "moral standards of the biblical authors" These -- slavery, rape, torture, war, incest, beating slaves to death, etc, etc, etc -- these are your morals?
You really need to look at yourself and the lies that you believe.
leftclickben 5 days ago
@chriswooten7 those 12 foot skeletons dont prove there is a god and they dont prove that humans used to be taller, homo spaiens skeletons are not 12 feet, other homo species MAY have that ability, we do not,. you cant "choose" to be taller, that is DNA and evolution making that choice, and many people DO NOT understand how evolution works, and that it has flaws, now fuck off and go suckle your mamas titty some more
hez1919 1 week ago
@hez1919 No, I suppose not, but it does seem rather hard on your theory though, seeing how everyone supposedly is getting bigger and everything. No one said you could choose to be anything. Totally irrelevant. In order for DNA and evopollution to make a choice, we would have to assume it has thought processes. Maybe it's God. And as far as not understanding it, the old, stale we're smart, you're dumb puff-up; please. And your language suggests a little tween locker room intellect. Go play!
chriswooten7 1 week ago
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@chriswooten7 So let me get this straight:
We can't see him.
We can't hear him.
We can't feel him.
All claims of personal experience or relationship with him fit the exact same criteria as delusion or hallucination.
The only work that speaks of him was written by humans.
The only way anybody learns about him is from other humans.
And on top of all that, we're not allowed to test to see if he's there?!
Dude, I'm starting to think that maybe your god isn't real
ryan6627 1 week ago
@ryan6627 ignore this douchebag
hez1919 1 week ago
@hez1919 lol
ryan6627 1 week ago
@ryan6627 1st, as long as you live in willing, scoffing unbelief, you'll never hear Him, but please don't be so foolish as to assume I fit into your "we" category. I do hear Him. As well, one would have to be "delusional," or hallucinating to assume one's lack of experience dictates or somehow nullifies my experience. Just because your narrow road that only brakes for empiricism can't find Him, pulling everyone into your sad little cave is only a fabrication of your boxed-in mind. Meaningless.
chriswooten7 1 week ago
@chriswooten7 1.Dellusion for ya! 2. boxed in mind? you believe an invisible sky daddy, a zombie, men living i fish, a devil that is as strong as your god, and stoning people to death, and I have a boxed in mind? WELL EVERY FUCKING RELIGION SAYS THEY HEAR THERE GOD, YET NONE OF YOU HAVE A SHRED OF FUCKING EVIDENCE. I DONT TOLERATE STUPIDITY!!!
ryan6627 1 week ago
@ryan6627 "You brood of vipers, how can you who are evil say anything good? For out of the overflow of the heart the mouth speaks." (Matthew 12:34, NIV) If empiricism is the ONLY way you know to find truth.Look up..."Empiricism, Modernism, Secular Humanism. You have things you believe, I just am sorry they'll never lead to satisfaction, peace, or happiness; only fleeting, temporary pleasure. I wish you well, angry one.
chriswooten7 1 week ago
@chriswooten7 I can say good things. If anything, atheism causes more peace than religion. I am angry because you are just stuck in that one stupid insight. It angers me that you cant get any other view because of your "faith"
ryan6627 1 week ago
@ryan6627 You are partially tight. Religion does cause wars. However, religion is a man-made thing, following Christ (who lives, and leads us into victory, peace, and all truth) will never lead anyone into anything that contradicts law. It will bring quarrels and anger, but the anger is actually towards the message, not the messenger, people just don't realize it. "Insight" is accurate. I have many views, but will always reject what doesn't line up with God. I've appropriated it, and it's true.
chriswooten7 1 week ago
@chriswooten7 Sorry, first sentence I meant partially right.
chriswooten7 1 week ago
@chriswooten7 Do you really understand the purpose of the Old Testament law? Please inform me of your interpretation, and I might share some info with you.
chriswooten7 1 week ago
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@chriswooten7 "Do you really understand the purpose of the Old Testament law? "
Well I suppose it all depends on how you view it. The historical perspective, and the one held by the Jews prior to the advent of Christianity, is that it formed the social ties by which the tribes of Israel could grow into a nation that would conquer Canaan, exterminate its inhabitants, and hold complete cultural and military dominance.
Paul in the NT says it was to convict all mankind of "sin".
moopism 1 week ago
@chriswooten7 "I just am sorry they'll never lead to satisfaction, peace, or happiness; only fleeting, temporary pleasure."
I'm sorry, but that is not borne out by the research. There is a correlation between degree of religious belief in the population and societal ills. The greater the number of the population professing faith, the greater the number of social ills in that culture. The obverse is also true: the fewer people professing faith, the fewer social ills.
moopism 1 week ago
@moopism I have studied the scientific method in psychological science, and I hope you're aware that studies are almost sure to have the person's biases and agendas compelling them for persuaded results. Religious studies likely are the most vulnerable to this. Define empiricism. I have personally played both sides now. I cried out to God in May 2010. I can personally testify that I was filled with rage, frustration, strife, bitterness, and hopelessness. His spirit inside is the total opposite.
chriswooten7 1 week ago
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moopism 1 week ago
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@chriswooten7 Babble all you want. There is none so blind.... ain't that how the saying goes?
I grew up in the Baptist church and thumped the book for over 30 years, so tossing a bunch of subjective god speak at me to counter social sciences isn't impressive. I'm happy for you that your little fairy tale makes you feel better, but the reality of it is it either causes harm, or is symptomatic of a social group that fails its members. That's a fact.
moopism 1 week ago
@chriswooten7 i havent calle dyou stupid so dont even attempt to pull the "he is playing the im smarter than you game" people do not sutdy these subjects but think they understand them, if you dont kno whow something works you shouldnt comment on it, i dont give a fuck what you think about evoloution or if there is a god or not, i brought my language down to YOUR level so you wouldnt feel left out :) now fuck off
hez1919 1 week ago
@hez1919 You don't have to call anyone anything to imply, or does physical evidence lead you to that conclusion? Oh, I guess you won't find that either then. FYI, I do study these subjects, it's just that I don't deny creation and the flood, which changes everything. I'm also familiar with the flaws of dating methods, and know why you're stumped. There have been many cases in history where the majority is WRONG. That's life. I sense a little hostility. God can help you with that. Love ya.
chriswooten7 1 week ago