As for fitting, use 2 gyros in lows and a DCU, MWD LSE and WD in mids, 180mmACII and HAMs. Barrage ammo, and if you want to rig it use burst/collision and ambit extenders for even more falloff.
Don't use shield rigs, they increse your sig radius a lot making you very easy to hit. If you want tank then get a Rupture.
Ignore any previous comments. ACs operate in fallof, that's their nature. At your max fallof you hit half the time, at twice the falloff you stop hitting at all.
Now if you want to fly a stabber and speed/range tank it, you need T2 guns and use Barrage ammo. It lets you stay at 15-20 and still do enough dps.
Beside all that, this vid is propobly pre speed nerf and scramblers didn't disable MWD, it was a lot easier to fly a Stabber. Now if you get caught you're pretty much dead.
AC's work diff then most guns basicly just switch the optimal and falloff so if you guns have 1.5 opt and 10km fallout then with ac's 10km is optimal range and 1.5m is your falloff after the 10km atleast that is what i found
Could anyone explain me how is it possible to manage 20 km range with 180mm dual ACs and EMP Ms??? Because i was reading some setups like this and ppl say the best choice with this is to stay @ 20 km orbit and blow ur enemies with peaces! ACs have like 1.5 km range and EMPs have -50% bonus to range, that makes optimal 750m?
I think that's a 1500 optimal. Accuracy falloff will be much higher. You'd have to ask someone who's been playing recently, though, the EVE knowledge has fallen out of my head.
I thought this setup was my best when trying the Stabber out on sisi: [Stabber, Training For Best Setup] Nanofiber Internal Structure II 2 x Overdrive Injector System II Warp Disruptor II 10MN MicroWarpdrive II Large Shield Extender II 2 x 'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher 4 x Dual 180mm AutoCannon 3 x Core Defence Field Extender I used this ship quite a lot on sisi, died quite a bit in the FFA Arenas' though, but that's only because i need better skills for this ship.
Wouldn't work now of course, due to the speed balancing, but looks like a solid setup for back in the day. I woulda swapped out an ODII for an innyII, so I could get a slightly tighter orbit, and gigantic transversal.
On the subject of T1 cruisers, go watch the vid of ten thoraxes fighting BoB. From the alliance tournament. Number 4 or 3, I think.
As for fitting, use 2 gyros in lows and a DCU, MWD LSE and WD in mids, 180mmACII and HAMs. Barrage ammo, and if you want to rig it use burst/collision and ambit extenders for even more falloff.
Don't use shield rigs, they increse your sig radius a lot making you very easy to hit. If you want tank then get a Rupture.
mrsoultwister 2 years ago
I fit a Stabber like a mini-Vaga nowadays, 'cause I fly those too now. :D
Guns, cloak, AB, web, scram, ODs, gyroes, tracking enhancers.
Fairly simple.
I figured out guns now too, thanks to a friend. Barrage is pure win.
Asdayasman 2 years ago
Ignore any previous comments. ACs operate in fallof, that's their nature. At your max fallof you hit half the time, at twice the falloff you stop hitting at all.
Now if you want to fly a stabber and speed/range tank it, you need T2 guns and use Barrage ammo. It lets you stay at 15-20 and still do enough dps.
Beside all that, this vid is propobly pre speed nerf and scramblers didn't disable MWD, it was a lot easier to fly a Stabber. Now if you get caught you're pretty much dead.
mrsoultwister 2 years ago
no just the way ccp did things i guess
TemarRadeik 2 years ago
Reckon you could provide me with a link to some research done on the subject?
Asdayasman 2 years ago
AC's work diff then most guns basicly just switch the optimal and falloff so if you guns have 1.5 opt and 10km fallout then with ac's 10km is optimal range and 1.5m is your falloff after the 10km atleast that is what i found
TemarRadeik 2 years ago
Any idea why? Is it a bug?
Asdayasman 2 years ago
Could anyone explain me how is it possible to manage 20 km range with 180mm dual ACs and EMP Ms??? Because i was reading some setups like this and ppl say the best choice with this is to stay @ 20 km orbit and blow ur enemies with peaces! ACs have like 1.5 km range and EMPs have -50% bonus to range, that makes optimal 750m?
viciokas1993 2 years ago
I think that's a 1500 optimal. Accuracy falloff will be much higher. You'd have to ask someone who's been playing recently, though, the EVE knowledge has fallen out of my head.
Asdayasman 2 years ago
I was playing amarr and falloff is kind of not very nice, if you double the range on lasers, you hardly hit 10 DP ona stationary target
viciokas1993 2 years ago
You sure this is med ACs?
Asdayasman 2 years ago
yup, "if you stay @ 12km you are ok" and thats about ba stabber with 180mm dual ACs T2
viciokas1993 2 years ago
Max'd skills, too?
Asdayasman 2 years ago
No, only IV and some V. I think it has something to do with falloff...
viciokas1993 2 years ago
Well.
I'm thoroughly confused.
Asdayasman 2 years ago
I think I'll have to tell you I love you again.
BECAUSE I CAN.
Asdayasman 2 years ago
eveonline247 3 years ago
Wouldn't work now of course, due to the speed balancing, but looks like a solid setup for back in the day. I woulda swapped out an ODII for an innyII, so I could get a slightly tighter orbit, and gigantic transversal.
On the subject of T1 cruisers, go watch the vid of ten thoraxes fighting BoB. From the alliance tournament. Number 4 or 3, I think.
Asdayasman 3 years ago
Cool, what do you mean by 'innyll'?
Inertia Stab ll?
eveonline247 2 years ago
Aye. Tighter orbit means sexy transversal.
Also, that few seconds off the align means sticky situations can be slightly less sticky.
Asdayasman 2 years ago
Wow nice video (Y) 5/5!
I have only used this ship on the Test Server and i think it's awesome!
With a well fitted stabber and good skills you can beat pretty much any cruiser, and even some T2 ships.
eveonline247 3 years ago
That ship's more awesome than I thought.
Olger10 3 years ago
Keep in mind this is pre-QR. The ship's lost alot of stead since the speed nerf.
Still one of the best disposable PvP ships, though. If you're gonna go cruiser, go Stabber, Rupture, or Thorax.
But the Rupture's ugly, and the Thorax looks like a penis.
Asdayasman 3 years ago