MoonFaker: Phil Plait, Mythbusters & Dirty Tricks. PART 2

[haydenmossop]

in their own videos the shadows of the astronots are two different lenghts my question is (is one astronot 2 foot taller than the other astronot)

[TheDeJureTour]

People are fools. They only go with what is "trendy"

[MrToiletface]

remember folks, jamie and adam love to suck each others cocks and eat one anothers feces. they love to eat each others semen too cuz theyre fucking faggit assed homos and they love to cross swords and space dock. they bend over and insert one anothers penises in one anothers rectums and rub peanut butter all over each others nipples. then they smash one anothers penis with a mallet and shove pins and needles into theyre testicles. then they stomp on each others dicks and drink theyre cum and poo

[555gypsie]

lets not forget that the government controls the media myth busters cant go against the grain you tube is the only bit of reality we got and even now its being invaded by media

[MrToiletface]

mythbusters half ass every experiment theyve ever done theyre nothing but special effects morons. jamie and adam and buzz and neil all get together to fuck each others rectums till their rockets launch. i wouldnt take anything that any of them have to say seriously, their mouths are so filled with one anothers semen theyre havin trouble talking bunch of cowardly peices of pig shit. the chick on the show just shows her ass off all the time, they have to resort to "sex sells" bcuz their show sucks

[DanQuinnPlayersClub]

This dude needs to get some pussy...

[Havoc5487]

You missed an integral part of the jumping footage from the moon. The dust at the astronauts feet. The way the moon dust acted in the footage can only mean that it was on the moon. And also, the dropping of the hammer and feather. Explain both of these to me.

[konakona444]

We must spread the truth!!

[yesiamawizardjonny]

That was cool when you showed them side by side and they matched perfectly. Way to go, Jarrah!

[timpovikings]

Way to go, JW. You really let him have it, didn't you?

Moon Hoaxers: Proof that vegetables can communicate with humans.

[snowboarder1pro]

HAHA This is pathetic. The only way you can support your lunatic theories is by criticizing MYTHBUSTERS. The very idea that people would take Adam and Jamie's conclusions seriously is hilarious. Scientific analysis is SURPRISINGLY a bit more involved, encompassing content that I don't believe would be too exciting for the average viewer (namely 9-15 year old's, or Jarrah White).

[UltimateWarrior65]

So Savage basically admits that Mythbusters is more Zionist Hollywood bullshit.

[UltimateWarrior65]

Great job confronting the Zionist Mythbusters propagandists!

[JoshuaZelinsky]

I am deeply unimpressed. Savage's comment was more nuanced than this video makes it out to be. And then the remainder is spent over the fact that a reporter didn't quote accurately because we all know that the press only misquotes when they have an agenda.

[therushfan2112rush]

It was nice to hear Savage admit that his show is entertainment and not science. Although the former is a matter of opinion the latter is true and there are no scientists and nobody with a scientific background on that show.

Its mostly about a couple of goofy guys who blow shit up.

[jelinto]

I think I'll just let snakehipsohoolihan's nonsense speak for itself.

:o)

[snakehipsohoolihan]

@jelinto Oh wow.

I knew you'd be dumb, but didn't expect you could be that dumb.

OK, hoaxer school 101-Any claim that wires were used to simulate lunar gravity, including use of wires in combination with slo-mo or other camera tricks, requires that wires are attached to every object in shot. In the case of the A16 Navy Salute, that includes lunar dust.

You lose, champ.

[jelinto]

@snakehipsohoolihan

Part2

watch?v=bI_2TLEVKiI

Go to the 5:44 mark, and observe the rate of descent of the lunar regolith simulant kicked up by the astro-not; there is nothing unusual about it. It falls to the ground as it would here on earth. Why does it fall sooner than the astro-not? Because it's not being kicked as high as he is jumping. Simple.

Why do I have to do your research for you, you lazy, unobservant prick? The answer was right under your nose the whole time.

[jelinto]

@snakehipsohoolihan

Part1

Alright dipshit, I didn't want to push your comedy gold to the back pages with a response, but clearly you need some kind of hint. Look to the top of these comments...the very top. See that comment by madebz? See the response by Jarrah where he refers madebz to Part 5 of this series? This where the footage from the Mythbusters is played at normal speed, and the Apollo 16 footage is speed up to match...

[snakehipsohoolihan]

@jelinto "it falls to the ground as it would here on earth"

Really? So dust on earth falls as if it is in a vacuum, and doesn't billow, or cloud?

Oh dear, there you go again, talking bullshit and not thinking about the consequences.

You lose, champ.

[jelinto]

@snakehipsohoolihan

Remember, I'm not the one referring to lunar regolith simulant as "dust". You are the one referring to it as "dust", and I don't mind telling you, it's a rather bogus assumption.

Do you assume that because the moon has a "vacuum" environment, therefore the regolith on the surface must be like that of something you'd find inside the used bag on your Hoover "vacuum" cleaner?

Does sand at the beach billow or cloud when you kick it up?

watch?v=MrpR3xqOAqQ

[snakehipsohoolihan]

@jelinto Slow down there Sparky, I am well aware of what the surface of the moon is covered in, and even how deep it is (but that's related to another shit-stupid hoax claim). Also, its physical attributes, but I digress. Don't try to side track the issue, dust is the common term.

Are you claiming that the A16 salute sequence used sand, or simulant (you must be aware that NASA has a simulated regolith material, yes?)

Now, the A16 salute, you claim that it is wires AND slow motion (cont)

[jelinto]

@snakehipsohoolihan

You claim that you are "well aware of what the surface of the moon is covered in" and its physical attributes. Really? Have you been there?

Yes, I'm aware that there is a company that supplies NASA with a lunar regolith simulant (that is the term I've been using. Hello?), and I'm glad you brought it up.

watch?v=jkdOMdIYxlI

Does the simulant billow or cloud anymore than what's seen in Jarrah's Part 5 video? Nope.

[snakehipsohoolihan]

@jelinto Why use slo-mo? And to get the right parabolic arcs & acceleration in all other lunar vids for all items seen,you'd need to speed the film up by 2.46x anyway

Just take a look at JYs saluting arm in his salute

Wow, that's moving pretty fast eh? & in a big ole EVA suit too

I bet you couldn't move that fast, and consistently so the "movie" could then be slo-mo'd to give the effect you want to see...oh but wait, in JW's part 5 he only speeds it up by 1.5x

oops

You lose

try harder

[jelinto]

@snakehipsohoolihan "you'd need to speed the film up by 2.46x"

This is based on the assumption that mankind went to the moon. Hint: we didn't.

If NASA filmed on a set and slowed the footage down to approximately 67% percent to pass the film off onto an unsuspecting public as authentic moon landing footage, then that's what they did, and the "2.46X" figure you apollogists throw out there is bunk. You're just making shit up, dancing around the obvious and wasting my time.

[snakehipsohoolihan]

@jelinto

*yawn*

No, that (2.46)is based on the relationship between earth and lunar gravity-surely you knew that, dipshit?

(I assume that using "dipshit" instead of champ is more acceptable to you, as you use it?

[snakehipsohoolihan]

@jelinto Head on over to this YT video

Irrefutable Proof for Moon Landing - SEQ Bay Pendulum

and post your ramblings there.

I wonder what excuse you'll use to NOT do that!

[jelinto]

@snakehipsohoolihan

BTW, ending all your posts with "You lose, champ" or "You lose, try harder", doesn't prove anything except that you have no faith in your logic or reasoning (lack thereof is more like it), and are insecure so you try to reinforce your bogus claims with childish rhetoric.

[snakehipsohoolihan]

@jelinto

*yawn*

You dipshit.

You can't refute any of my points, so you try to redirect on to my description of you.

Nice try, but guess what?

You fail,dipshit.

[snakehipsohoolihan]

@jelinto

Or even this video, which shows just how crazy the slo mo idea is

Irrefutable Proof for Moon Landing - Lunar Gravity

Look at those guys move in the "earth" gravity sections.

Oh dear, you lose

Again

As usual

You amateur

[jelinto]

@snakehipsohoolihan

If Jarrah White doesn't deal with the two amontaiyagala's two videos that you claim are "irrefutable proof for moon landing" with a video response, then I will. What bullshit!

[snakehipsohoolihan]

@jelinto

I see

"Bullshit"

Well, forgive me professor but your refutation doesn't cut the mustard.

To refute those 2 YT vids, you should point out precisely where they are incorrect

My money is safely on you not being able to...

What a dipshit you are.

[snakehipsohoolihan]

@jelinto

Oh, and have you realised what "paraphrasing" really means yet?

Come on dipshit, pull your socks up, stop glowing red with embarrassment and fight your way out of this with facts and evidence.

[jelinto]

Adam Savage's words: "I'm biased by the fact that I know we're right in that episode, so you're just gonna have to take that."

My paraphrase of Adam Savage's words: "He (Adam Savage) then says we should just take his word for it regarding the moon landing because he KNOWS he's right..."

...and I continued with,"(he) then goes on to say he could be wrong and that he's 'okay with it.'"

Those are the facts. So my question is; where do you see a problem in my paraphrase?

[jelinto]

...considering you initially accused me of misquoting Adam Savage with my paraphrased words, despite the fact that I didn't use quotation marks, it seems apparent enough to me that YOU don't know what the terms 'to quote someone' OR 'to paraphrase someone" mean.

Hmmm...should I reinforce this with a childish insult or valediction.

*thinking

No, I have confidence in my comments and I've made my point, therefore I feel it is unnecessary.

[Cougar139tweak]

NASA Aided experiments to attempt to debunk NASA...Give me a break...... Can't wait for the conservation of momentum Mythbusters episode on the WTC 7 Building falling at freefall speed, brought to you by the fine folks at ENRON and Halliburton....

[dragnet53]

LOL Jarrah you got balls son. I commend you for it. You were in a hostile environment.

[Jasonhellboy20022001]

he run by it.

[xunknownx101x]

I like how Adam Savage first goes about answering your questions by antagonizing you and then answers your question with a flawed statement saying their show is about entertainment not scientific fact which is wrong because all their experiments are based on scientific fact.

[un4g1v3n1]

1:10

[snakehipsohoolihan]

Interesting.

Completely off the cuff, Adam Savage owns Jarrah White.

[jelinto]

@snakehipsohoolihan

How so?

[snakehipsohoolihan]

@jelinto Watch the video again. Unless you are in Jarrah's pocket, you will see him put back in his box.

[jelinto]

@snakehipsohoolihan

At 2:02 Savage's reply to Jarrah's question as to why they did the wire suspension and slow motion experiments separate instead of simultaneously is, "I hadn't thought of it."

Then he says, "What (the Mythbusters) are doing isn't science." WTF? Whoosh! All credibility gone out the window.

He then says we should just take his word for it regarding the moon landing because he KNOWS he's right, then goes on to say he could be wrong and that he's "okay with it." LMFAO!!!

[snakehipsohoolihan]

@jelinto So you think the moon landings were filmed in a school gym, with no dust, and then the dust was added in post production? Or what is your explanation for the rate of fall of the dust in the A16 video?

So maybe Savage hadn't thought of it, but others in the team had...or do you have a credible explanation for the fall rate of the regolith? Wires on each particle, perhaps......

MB aren't doing "science", if that makes you feel good. (cont)

[snakehipsohoolihan]

@snakehipsohoolihan What they do is demonstration. Given the time they have to do their shows, things must be left out. eg, the dust was not only not explained by the programme, but I'm willing to bet you can't do it in 5 posts here-that gives you 2500 words to come up with a verifiable explanation of how the dust is made to fall like that if not on Earth.

(cont)

[jelinto]

@snakehipsohoolihan "Wires on each particle (of dust)..."???

WTF? Clearly you don't understand the term "slow motion" as it applies to the playback of film or video.

It's only a reduction TO 67% of the original film speed. NOT a reduction OF 67%. It's that what's confusing you?

[snakehipsohoolihan]

@jelinto Nothing is confusing me.

Pray tell, in the Jarrah White version of the MB video, where is the dust?

Answer: there isnt any, as it was filmed in (what appears to be) a gymnasium.

So what would the fall rate be in the video if it was slowed down TO 67%?

I'll tell you this, it wouldn't equate to the fall rate expected in 1/6g.

BUT according to Jarrah, the astro would be falling at the correct rate,

BUT in the MB video, 5/6 of the mass of the astro is taken up in a wire rig

cont

[snakehipsohoolihan]

@jelinto

SO 5/6 of the mass of each dust grain would need to be taken up by a wire rig as well.

THere, simple enough for you?

Classic hoaxer fail, both you and Jarrah think only one move ahead, thus opening yourselves up for being revealed as the horses arses you are.

[snakehipsohoolihan]

@jelinto Perhaps you should listen to the audio again.

Nowhere does Savage say we should take his word for it. In fact, he offers a disclaimer, which is more than Jarrah ever does.

Sorry Jel, but you have failed. Apart from not even seeing the problem with the dust, you misquote a very short clip-how can you be trusted to give any sort of reasonable discussion when you can't even get your facts right from a 2 minute(or so) quote from Savage when its right in front of you?

[jelinto]

@snakehipsohoolihan

Furthermore, if you look back to my original comment, I wasn't quoting Savage (notice no quotation marks used). I was merely paraphrasing. i.e. - YOU'VE misquoted ME!

"I'm biased by the fact that I know we're right in that episode, so you're just gonna have to take that." - Adam Savage at 2:24. There, is that better?

He then goes on to say at 3:28, "...we might be wrong, and I'm okay with that..."

"What we're doing isn't science." - Adam Savage at 2:19. LMFAO!

[snakehipsohoolihan]

@jelinto

Err, no you lose.

You weren't paraphrasing it as what you expressed that Savage said, and what Savage said, were different.

It was not just a matter of you using different words to express the same concept.

You are an amateur. Give up now while you've just made amateurish mistakes.

[potrodsas]

@snakehipsohoolihan

Go back on your Nintendo little girl.

[snakehipsohoolihan]

@potrodsas Uh oh. You are fantasizing again.

Stop it, you deviant.

[eviLThey]

Not science but entertainment.

Pick and choose, that's the way to lie.

And you showed the flag moving without an astronaut. haha

[stisilaos]

I thing the translation of savage's words is "I M NOT RESPONSIBLE" with everything that means.

[Luiwerwimmes]

Between .5.32 and 5.33 and one can see the wire (very faintly) on the left frame.

Or is it an antenne ..?

[yesiamawizardjonny]

@Luiwerwimmes OH MY GOD! I never noticed that! Nice observation! No way was the antenna that high off the backpack!

[Thorzanek]

Mythbusters get busted!

[ptownpresident]

Excellent video this will be saved to my favorites thanks again Jarrah.

[DuralastTurbo]

I love the flag footage! Yet another nail in the coffin 4 N E fool with eyes claiming 2 believe we went 2 the moon =)) & what magical air is on the moon making it wave as he passes by? ROFL!!

[sidsixpoint7]

I dont know who's who really in moon conspiracies, or if it happened or not.

What I do know is that in general mythbusters = fail

and that when a speaker is being critisized, regardless of by whom or the tone, they often pander to the crowd for laughs when intending to be deceptive, or to distract.

This may or may not be the case here, but it doesnt make Savage look good for those of us that know the behaviour angle very well.

[stefanmuth]

jarrah, why didn't you ask adam savage about the albedo of the gravel they used in the lighting experiment, being wrong? also, you should be a little more tact in asking your question. that would get you farther.

[terra382]

well done on putting him on the spot...this should change the outlook on all those who once believed myth busters was a reliable source for scientific information..it's incredible that you were able to capture this moment of truth f mythbusters i want to say right now

[WhiteJarrah]

@madebz

I do just that in Part 5.

[evilpiggehz]

keep up the good work Jarrah im behind u man

[evilpiggehz]

HAW HAW all based on ENTERTAINMENT OH GoD I Just love it when little bitches expose themselves! it actually turns me on.

[Aurinkohirvi]

I'm so glad Jarrah, that you detailedly showed the MB doing the Big Navy Salute Jump experiment wrong, and how to do it right: using slow motion AND wires same time.

And that's why moonwalks supporters (like shanedk for example), increase the speed of the Apollo footage too much and get the astronauts moving too fast when "trying" to prove it wasn't filmed on Earth's gravity. They ignore that Apollo truthers say the footages were filmed in slow motion. You did it (too) wrong, Shane!

[Aurinkohirvi]

Prepare to be Busted - Mythbusters Debunked addendum

watch?v=23BIb_PMJ4M

How about adding this your own video to the video responses, Jarrah? As it shows the Mythbuster's experiment, why it was wrong and how it should have been done.

[cushy1900]

I love that tape of him and the reporter, "you're making me nervous, looking over my shoulder" and the "hmmmmm"

[Europasingstome]

Wow, Jarrah. You will find any reason to hate these men, won't you?

Thing is, they HAVE repeatedly revisited myths and have said "Ok, we fucked up" on the show. The show isn't really scientific, and they aren't scientists, and they admit that on the show. You can't hold them too responsible for what their audience says, either.

And yeah, your tone was a little more than just "a little abrasive". You came off like a child in the middle of a tantrum.

[burlbark]

Right around the time this episode aired Jamie Bought a 1.5+ million dollar home down the road from me..... What a payoff that was for him.

[cooldude56g]

How can they possibly argue that their show is purely entertainment? They're whole show is based on them DISPROVING myths and urban legends.

Is it true that the mythbusters are sore about the fact that they can't disprove one of the biggest myths of all?: Maybe, maybe not, but it certainly looks that way.

[trexx32]

mythbusters admits there a bunch of liars

[straydog02]

Adam Savage was BUSTED! ... Excellent job Jarrah .. You've got cahonies the size of Texas!

Ah, Houston, we've got a problem.. Jarrah White is exposing our moon landing lies!

[liquidus2172]

when they laugh at Jarrah i was very pissed off. aghrrrrr

[dragonslayah]

@liquidus2172 I was one of the laughers lol

That shit was hilarious

[un4g1v3n1]

God Bless Adam Savage! He truthfully admitted that mythbusters is not to be trusted for much more than entertainment!!

Thanks Adam!!