LETS FACE THE TRUTH OF TIBET VIOLENCE WITH NEW ZEALAND MEDIA

[sharkcrocodile]

why the west always shit on their pants and eat those shit.

[GARNETSODA]

The simple truth is that Tibetans want to be Tibetan. Like Koreans want to be Korean. Like Vietnamese want to be Vietnamese. It is no different.

[Bodgyalo319]

emptyna talking about murder? plenty of videos on youtube about ccp promoted murder..please dont make us laugh..china out of Tibet!

[Bodgyalo319]

the websites are full of 50cent propaganda army..the normal people of china are sick of the ccp and have wanted them gone for years..also the footage shows a han chinese being attacked? how can you tell who is who at that distance?after over 50 years of oppression and having relations jailed and tortured for something as simple as saying free tibet, who can blame them for getting frustrated anyhow?

[pergi]

OM MANI PADME HUM

[888reventon]

humanrightsvideot is a tibetan fanatic, fundamentalist propaganda agent spreading hate and lies on youtube. Fuck off.

[Sarah3213]

March 26, 2009 The Times Film of Tibet violence may have prompted China to block YouTube Video images of Chinese police beating Tibetans as they lie trussed-up on the ground may have prompted the countrys censors to block access to YouTube, the popular video-sharing website.

[armyboy24]

@Sarah3213 - Chinese police? I believe you meant Nepal Police...And this has already been verified because the uniform they wear belongs to Nepal police and they are dark-skinned men. Please do some research before you make claims based on CNN or western media. Even if China blocked the video of Nepal police beating tibetans, it is to prevent the stirring up of emotions among the people through false reports and news being circulated by pro-independence extremists.

[456inthemix]

@Sarah3213 - Hehe, behind the "Sarah hiding a 50 cents, everywhere the same comment !



[emptyna]

well.. i never knew that western love murder so much.. those murder they burn down entire city, several people have been burn to death.. and they have also steal huge amount of money and resources~~

i mean.. freedom? so western want chinese government to give tibet the freedom to murder, burning and stealing? or they are suggesting it is wrong to stop people from murder innocent?

[Haileyfeng1980]

Free Dorje Shugden then china will free tibet

[Ganeschar]

again this account is closed, hmmm

[velso123]

free tibet fuck china ich ficke eure mütter!

[Iaminusae]

no way, go ahead form an army to overthow the Chinese invaders if you are capable. don't just talk.

[nzgav]

Torture in Tibet: A Buddhist Nun Tells Her Story

where 15 teenage nuns were imprisoned, tortured and 14 died. The survivor tells her story. The first 2 minutes and 5 seconds will show you how bad things can get in Tibet.

[nzgav]

Tibet

To see how BAD things are please watch

Undercover in Tibet part 6

which is part of the excellent

Dispatches Undercover in Tibet (48 mins, not on youtube)

[HumanRightsVideosT]

Undercover in Tibet part 6

has been removed.

[JesseEwart]

Oh are you allow to watch youtube or even google the word youtube in china!!??

[JesseEwart]

haha which country is not a democracy yet??

[nzgav]

A few quotes from the official website of the Central Tibetan Administration

tibet(.)net

Tibetans are subject to arbitrary arrest and detention

Torture still prevails in Chinese prisons and detention centres

Enforced disappearances, where a person is taken into custody and the details of their detention are not disclosed, continue to occur.

Today, it appears the Chinese are using Tibet as a dumping ground for their, and foreign, nuclear waste.

[liebstandarteadolf]

So, that's not propaganda?

[nzgav]

Do Chinese people think the western media is deliberately misinterpreting the footage of Chinese soldiers shooting tibetans trying to leave Tibet?

[matlikethecarpet]

any place thats as tight as china is asking for riots

[jennyxio4]

I think china is just saying this to cover up the human rights probelm over there. First I really don't care of Tibet is part of china or not,For the pass 30 years Tibet said they didn't want independence all they wanted is to be treated like humans, the rights, freedom of Region, history and Language just as any human being how hurt is that to understand?

[southbobby]

Tibet is too close to China to allow any foreign occupancy of that province

China will continue to strengthen it's military to defend against anyone that threatens their power and safety.

[HumanRightsVideosT]

Tibet was an independent country in 1948.

Hopefully India will not be attacked again. Tibet should be a peace zone, not full of troops.

[thejin666]

oh yeah opression

HAVE YOU FUCKING MORONS BEEN TO TIBET?

BY THE WAY

ALL YOU IDIOTIC AMERICANS,AUSTRAILIANS AND CANADIANS HAVE NO RIGHT TO SPEAK WHAT SO EVER

YOU CRITISIZE CHINA FOR LIBERATING TIBET FROM THE DALAI LAMA

HOWEVER I DON'T SEE ANY PROSTEST ABOUT EUROPEAN COLONISM

[thegameoflife2]

Every time...every item you buy that is made in China you SUPPORT AND GIVE YOUR STAMP OF APPROVAL to a ruthless, murderous, rights and liberty suffocating tyranical communist regime.If it says made in China---don`t buy it!!!

[thejin666]

i bet your 4

[mrdraX22]

Let's see you try doing that...

[thegameoflife2]

A Communist dictatorship must, by definition, stifle freedom of information and expression if it is to maintain its grip on the people.

Save yourself China - the whole bloody system with its controlled media etc.

Why dont you think for yourself...

[thegameoflife2]

The phenomenon of brainwashing is one of the manifestations of the true nature of Communism.The goal of the CCP's rule is to brainwash each of its citizens so that they think and talk like the CCP, and do what it promotes. The Party also forces people to lose their ability to think independently!!!

[thegameoflife2]

"brainwashing"

The process of indoctrination by repetition rather than reason is frequently termed brainwashing. The Communists are adept at this also. They tell a lie, make it big, repeat it often, and the majority of people believe them. The Communists know that if they want something accepted without question, they must say it, say it, and say it again.

[hunter2271]

lol an asian person with a new zealand accent XD

[massivetuber]

Violent charging monks. Is tibet buddhism really buddhisum? I don't think so.

[tianyan6]

A fair media!

[tenzin7777]

Jester: In the same way you think that Chinese government's killing of now 150 tibetans(only documented) and continued mass arrest, imprisonment, cutting food, water and electricity to sections of many tibetan communities (with reports of people already dying from starvation) IS JUSITIFIED,

So I Suppose is mass arrest and organ-harvesting of falun gong practioners, and imprisoment of hundreds of Journalists justified (for truth is what ccP is cared of)

CCP SPY are you or just a dump chinese?

[TiptheJester]

Mass arrest? Cutting food and water and electricity? Show me some prove of that, that shows an objective view of the situation, instead of focusing on some people who don't work and can't pay the bills and as a result had their power cut off.

I am not a CCP spy, and you're the one spelling dumb wrong. :)

In a general census in Russia, majority of the public believe that the "Free Tibet" business is just the Western world pushing down on the Chinese government. I say they're onto something.

[uvgarden]

民主只是一个政治制度。它解决不了人类社会的本质问题。西方民主­制度下的政客，收受资本家，总裁的巨额竞选赞助，他为什么要为人 民服务？什么叫权钱勾结，还得看看波士顿的"大挖"工程。几个亿­转手入了竞选赞助的腰包。要看巨额腐败，以 权谋私，还得仰视西方民主制的 大手笔。

美对国内反抗也是穷凶极恶。不光是众所周知的美军坦克机枪好几次­镇压瓦茨种族暴乱。我有死人堆的照片。被美军残酷击毙的数百甚至 数千都是年轻人，黑人孩子。你想看吗？夏威夷独立；肯特州立机枪­扫射师生。黑人秘密反政府组织山狮党，几千人被全歼。私藏军火的 大卫教被放火烧了七天七夜。一个三岁大卫教童尸含子弹重达8斤。

圣经陆加福音19：27 "那些不让我当王的人在那儿？把他们统统带上来，在我面前一一杀­死。 --- 耶稣基督"

[bemoderate]

I would just like to ask one question, DO YOU REALLY THINK ALL THE INFORMATION THAT YOU HAVE ACCESS TO IS THE TRUE DESCRIPTION TO WHATEVER THAT HAS HAPPENED IN TIBET??? To me,both sides' media are biased and not fully presenting the truth.If you really watch all the videos related to this event and refer to books documenting the history of China or Tibet,you might have a new perception of the incident,instead of taking in the views of the Western or Chinese media blindly!!

[bemoderate]

Most of the West get their impressions of China through their media.However,i would like to point out that in this incident,the media did NOT justly present whatever they see or hear in Tibet.Holding biased view,they mainly present tapes showing the PLA trying to stop the Tibetans from further destroying the province,but this is not the whole picture, is it?I do think China wasn't handling the incident skilfully,even so, this is not the reason for us to simply comment on whatever we saw on TV!

[bemoderate]

Moreover,please calmly look at the contribution of the Han in Tibet.I am not a particularly patriotic Chinese,but I would like to speak out for China this time because I do think the West is deliberately pinpointing China this time.Throughout these years,how much the government has spent on Tibet to improve its infrastructures and amenities.Why didn't any Western Media mention these to their audience?Why didn't they present videos that show the Tibetans burning buildings and killing the Han?

[sharon12223]

i agree ....but try not to write radical words

people dont like it

[sharon12223]

Japanese wanted to develop china? ??

so...Thats why they killed so many ppl?

thats y they raped so many girls in china?

tell me it's a joke

[TiptheJester]

"Truth is,The People's Republic of China is the only non-white country who has the power and guts to challenge USA and the West, that is why they hate China so much and display 'so-called' Free Tibet Riots,but the real reason they riot over Tibet is because the world is so politically correct these days those White Anglo-Americans and Westerners want to find another method to incite Anti-Asian racism.That is why Western Media always reports negatively about ALL East Asian countries."

[tenzin7777]

Lincoln abolished slavery, in his "own" country, by fighting against his own people, the white Americans!

Don't compare that great achievement of humanity, to Han coloniization and raping of Tibet and tibetans in the name of "communism" or development. If Japan came to develop you as they tried during the WWII, will you say "thanks for coming to liberate us?

When Hans fight with other Hans for human rights and aboliish colonzation of Tibet, then your lincoln example would be appropriate.

[TiptheJester]

If Japan really did came to develop China, then I am pretty sure we would be grateful. But you would call WWII as Japan trying to develop Asia? I am sure Philippines/Korea/Singapore/an­y other countries that were invaded would love to hear about it. Also, I never used Lincoln as an example, you dolt. You fail at reading, and understanding history. "If Japan came to develop you as they tried during the WWII", hahaha. They tried to develop Pearl Harbour too, in that perspective.

[tenzin7777]

I am simply sharing what the vast majority of tibetans view of the Chinese "liberation is".

Now you know first hand...

You cannot force what we feel and think...And please again, don't compare Lincoln to CCP!

[bemoderate]

tenzin7777:i appreciate your view in saying that Japan DID NOT come to develop China but simply to rape China, just like what those "righteous" powers in the West did in the 20th century.But I hope you would first spend some effort in reading more books and references about the HISTORY of CHINA and TIBET.It has been PART of CHINA for more than 1000 years!!It was only seperated from China since the chaotic late Qing period! For this reason, why is it wrong to keep Tibet as part of China now???

[TiptheJester]

Again, what the hell is your problem, keep on saying I link Lincoln to CCP? Find the quote that I said anything remotely close to them. I am really sick of you putting your ideas into my mouth. The Chinese government's reaction to the violent riot was justified. They did not quell the dissent without reason. Once blood has been shed, and buildings are burning, there is more than enough reason to bring in force to stop the violence. And don't assume attitudes for the Chinese government.

[libertariandude]

@TiptheJester - Wake up! The CCP has been and will always be an enemy to freedom loving people. I can't believe you trust the CCP more than a group of people that has been under the foot of communism. Hell if someone had their foot on me for that long, I'd make sure to get up and put my foot up my oppressors ass.

[TiptheJester]

I am from Hong Kong, and no one loves the freedom there more than Hong Kong people themselves. CCP had not interfered with the policies there much, not as much as you misinformed people say. We are not oppressed by CCP or government, we are oppressed by Capitalism. The drive for personal gain has imprisoned more people than any government will. It's time you wake up. I don't trust CCP or any other group, but in this occasion, CCP did the right thing.

[ibcbc]

YES YOU ARE SO CORRECT, THATS WHY BIN LADEN IS CONSIDER A HERO TO SO MANY MUSLIMS. US of A deserved 911. Thx to idiots like you around the world, the world is such a better place.

Freedom loving people, what beautiful words, yes the same words used to murder thousands of people.

[tenzin7777]

tipthejester: Precisely, I am absolutely against such a perspective WWII Japan as trying to develop Asia. But, like What the Chinese are doing in Tibet, WWII Japan's government did had to resort to boosting the morales of the soldiers: one was to save Asia from the west. The other was to dehumanize the potential victims. this is exactly what the Chinese government is doing in tibet.great hans helping poor tibetans. and by the way, it doesn't matter if you kill tibetans, they are subhuman!

[barzawa]

In 1959, Anna Louise Strong visited an exhibition of torture equipment that had been used by the Tibetan overlords. There were handcuffs of all sizes, including small ones for children, and instruments for cutting off noses and ears, gouging out eyes, breaking off hands, and hamstringing legs (Origin from michaelparenti org.tibet) You can visit the web by typing w~in front of the name.

by tamyk007

don't know why your comment was marked as spam, but what you've said is all true

[WornBlack]

wow...WE ARE THE GREAT WHITE NATION..WE PREACH DEMOCRACY (yet in the distance echo the sounds of hypocracy).

Why were muslim extremists labelled as terrorists? They too believed they were freedom-fighters and defenders of justice. Without knowing what shame is, thinking, just because we are white and claim to be democratic, we are spotless.

[auslei]

a sword wielding man trying to kill innocent people, "some chinese people regard as terrorists", well I do believe this guy is a criminal, and is a terrorists.. even this news is biased, the NZ woman is been brainwashed by western media.

[zhmz888]

fair!

[VVTIL]

Freedom ? really ? how about free Aboriginese, free native of Americas and so on from u European descendants hypocrites!!

[h2so463]

speaking of freedom, i doubt if these roiters really understand what freedom is..

[tenzin7777]

Look bhshootingstar! Lincoln abolished slavery, in his "own" country, by fighting against his own people, the white Americans!

Don't compare that great achievement of humanity, to Han coloniization and raping of Tibet and tibetans in the name of "communism" or development. If Japan came to develop you as they tried during the WWII, will you say "thanks for coming to liberate us? Its easy for the outside world to see through the lies. what scary is most han think that coz of ccp lies!

[TiptheJester]

That's a great example about Lincoln.  Did you know Dalai Lama's political regime requires slaves? His former slaves who are actually in Tibet presently enjoy their freedom. Being under China's rule is better than Tibetan slavery system, or so they say.

[hairforsmooth]

SHAME ON CHINA!!!

[zhmz888]

if my kid were killed in one of the shop were burn, I will dig you out and cut you into pieces!

terrorist is not peace loving people, they are cancel cells of the human body... should be taken out immediately without hesitation... or innocent law binding citizen would suffer!

[bhshootingstar]

In old Tibet before 1950, 88 percent of Tibeten people were born as slaves. Slaves didn't belong to themselves, they belong to their slave masters who occupied 5% of Tibeten population at that time. Slaves could be sold,bought,abused at the will of their masters!

I admire Lincoln,the greatest former US president because he abolished the slave system in Southern America. Lincoln is always the hero in my heart.

Those Chinese who abolished the slave system in Tibet in 1950s are heros either!

[sunmarty]

if they call peaceful protest. so who did all the damaged cars, shops etc??? everyone think its the army?? are they got nothing to do? i don' think so..if peaceful protest, i think there are no problems...

[agamaislam]

Dear Geishanutz,

Which history book does it say Tibet has been part of China for 1000 years? Also, do you think this textbook, if it exists, was written by Han Chinese? Anyone can write a history book. Just look at Japan and their version of WW2 and the Nanjing Massacre!

[siangal07]

how many iraqis have US killed? (recently, the US's report of death poll is 4times LESS than that of actual, bloody liars) and how many iraqi girls have they sexually abused(sexually abuse to iraqi girls=killing her)? and how many people KKK killed? how many African had been killed and treated like slaves? HOW MANY? Bunch of hypocrites.

[geishanutz]

Tibet has been a part of China for 1000 years? Tibet was invaded by China in 1959 so how did it become 1000 years? Do people even bother to read history anymore.

[siangal07]

"Do people even bother to read history anymore." You are the one should be reading and not make a fool out of yourself.

[annniu123]

Lama Monks are not monks,but monsters and hooligans.They are fake Monks. They are insulting Buddhism and the world who love peace and truth.

[leoachilles]

fuck the peaceful protest, even when these assholes protest in other countries, they are still violent, try to direct at the government, but hey! not convinced!

[theagent3]

Nancy Pelosi should talks, our government is doing major so call human rights violations within Iraq at this moment. Have we forgotten about Guatamole Bay in Cuba already?

[theagent3]

Good at least with this report they did mention about the bias white western media reports and how it demonizing China. And it is wrong. As you can seeing the ones doing the damaging and riots are the lawless Tibetans.

[jiim2008]

Fuck all Xizhang(engish named Tibiet) independent rubbish and all them should be throwed to Irag and killed by USA army who would find WMD in Iraq.

[doowgof]

If you always speak with no evidence, if you can give nothing but lie, SHUT UP AND FUCK OFF!

[mchinses]

You are an awful story maker!!!

[dxu28]

Oneqaineko, you are a bitch liar !! go back minding your own fucking business, or marry a Tibienten girl !!

[ShiekYerbooty]

Boycott the olympics !

Stop supporting Communism by buying cheap Chinese garbage !

[Apteryxrules]

I just don't understand Tibetans. I would have thought that the Chinese presence would have increased diversity in what was once a dull homogeneous theocracy. Diversity is good. How ungrateful.

[slamca]

So many have argued that Mongols arent Chinese, Manchu aren't Chinese or even Tibetans aren't Chinese. The truth is Chinese are not a race. Chinese are a people. Many Mongols and Manchus actually sinicized themselve to become Chinese. Throughout history, Jurchen, Kitan, Koreans, Huns and even Jews have been sincized to become Chinese. So calling Mongol and Manchu not Chinese is not quite correct.

[einsteinwallah]

How Chinese are killing Tibetans. Watch this video on youtube. Tibetan language is similar to east Indian language of Bengal. Tibet should be part of India or independent. watch?v=BPNQHq5-XTQ

[mrdraX22]

country borders are not based on language solely... it is largely based on historical ties

so stop that irrational argument of independence based on language

[einsteinwallah]

read my reply to centralk below

[centralk]

US, Canada, Australia, New Zealand all speaks English, so they should be part of England?

[einsteinwallah]

You will agree that the fact that English is spoken in the countries you have listed MEANS "historical tie". How else english language came to dominate these countries. Besides some of these countries wanted NOT to be part of england and they fought for it and they were given freedom. So why not let Tibetans have freedom. Tibetan are unhappy with Chinese Boston Tea Party. They want to be free. Is that not important?

[centralk]

I never said I agree with your logic. I merely pointed out the fundamental flaw in it. Your sentences are quite incoherent to make any senses. But I can take some educated guesses at your ignorances. For one thing, you are quite unaware that Tibetants is not an homogenous race nor the fact that there are many Tibet buddhist sects of which Dalai is only head of one of the major ones. For the other, who said the Tibetants don't have freedom? They just don't have the freedom to be serfs again

[centralk]

I never said I agree with your logic. I merely pointed out the fundamental flaw in it. Your sentences are quite incoherent to make any senses. But I can take some educated guesses at your ignorances. For one thing, you are quite unaware that Tibetants is not an homogenous race nor the fact that there are many Tibet buddhist sects of which Dalai is only head of one of the major ones. For the other, who said the Tibetants don't have freedom? They just don't have the freedom to be serfs again

[xxaxziminrax]

Tibetan language is part of Sino-Tibetan family, guess what country represent Sino. India and Bangladesh speaks Indo-European language so tell me whose language is closer to who

[einsteinwallah]

not true, I do not agree to your thesis. Tibetans do not agree to your thesis. And most importantly Tibetans dont agree to be part of China. They believe otherwise. They dont agree to the thesis that pigs fly. You may want to believe in any fiction that is your choice.

[centralk]

No, please qualify your comment to radical Tibetants under the god-king Dalai's religious sect claim independence. They represent the decendents of the land owners and monk elites that dominated the region before the liberation and reintergration of Tibet back in to China in 1950. You can continue your ignorant rant about what Tibetant wants but the truth won't be silenced. Beside, even Dalai himself claim he is not for independence overtly. So you are contradicting the god-king?

[xxaxziminrax]

well its not my thesis its western linguist's thesis, so if Tibetans want to argue go argue with the linguest.

[centralk]

Don't try to confuse them with facts.

[utube118]

So funny. It's actually you who is attempting to win a propaganda war. The Chinese media coverage is far more balanced than you.

It's shameful the way you are trying to spin rioters into some sort of innocent protesters.

What's been forgotten are the innocent Hans and Huis who got kiled by these fucking lawless rioters.

Look forward to the day when the Aboriginals riot in New Zealand.

[Apteryxrules]

What do you mean looking forward to the day when the Aboriginals riot in New Zealand. They're always rioting. Try a night walk in South Auckland.

[SonnyGoten]

From the NRC Handelsblad (a dutch newspaper): The damage caused by Tibetans is more than 20 million euro. That's how "innocent" the protesters are. ^_~

[zllhs]

i`m shame on you CNN,BBC

[myroadrock]

Fucking Tibet rioters, Tibet is chinese Tibet, not Dala's Tibet, not Webstern Tibet.

[myroadrock]

thanks for uploading, Tibet is chinese Tibet not western Tibet.

[coongnoo]

127. He who, having done a bad deed,

longs thus: May they not know about me

he who conceals what he is doing,

he one should know as an outcaste.

(Vasalasuttam Sutra **The Discourse on the Outcastes)

142.One is not an outcaste by birth,

by birth one is not a brahmin,

by deeds one becomes an outcaste,

one becomes a brahmin by deeds

CCP, VCP are an outcastes

[coongnoo]

127. He who, having done a bad deed,

longs thus: May they not know about me

he who conceals what he is doing,

he one should know as an outcaste.

(Vasalasuttam Sutra **The Discourse on the Outcastes)

142.One is not an outcaste by birth,

by birth one is not a brahmin,

by deeds one becomes an outcaste,

one becomes a brahmin by deeds

CCP, VCP are an outcastes

[BeijOlmTibblood]

FuCKING CHINESE GET OuT OF OuR COuNTRY........FuCK INOCENT.....GET OuT NOW BITCHES....I HOPE YOuR COuNTRY WAS TAKEN BY OTHER COuNTRY...I PRAY SOME OTHER GREAT COuNTRY LIKE JAPAN LIBERATE RED CHINA

[summfire]

one day u will be published by the real God in the world but please wake up if you are a real oversea tibetian Chinese. Buddy, you have been brainwashed at the moment. sorry but that's true.

[summfire]

one day u will be published by the real God in the world but please wake up if you are a real oversea tibetian Chinese. Buddy, you have been brainwashed at the moment. sorry but that's true.

[BeijOlmTibblood]

fuck china, that is our country.......get out of china.......get out of china;

[123ziran]

Not 1000 years but 700 years. Starting from establishment of Yuan Dynasty in 1271. Mongols conquered the Jin Dynasty (ethnic Jurchens), the South Song Dynasty (ethnic Han), Dali (ethnic Zhuang) and Tibet (ethnic Zang or Tibetan). Successive governments of Ming Dynasty, Qing Dynasty, ROC, and PRC have all maintained Tibet as part of China.

[123ziran]

One Point, not 1000 years but more than 700 years. Starting from establishment of Yuan Dynasty in 1271. Mongols conquered the Jin Dynasty (ethnic Jurchens), the South Song Dynasty (ethnic Han), Dali (ethnic Zhuang) and Tibet (ethnic Zang or Tibetans). After Yuan Dynasty, sccessive governments of Ming Dynasty, Qing Dynasty, ROC, and PRC have all maintained Tibet as part of China.

[mayyoubekind]

Shame! on China hides information from its own citizen. CCP keeps Chinese ignorant for easy to manipulate, lie, abuses, even killing (Tienamen Square massacre, Now Tibet massacre)

CCP is the virus. Democracy is the vaccine

CCP is the virus. The Press is the vaccine

CCP is the virus. YOU is the Vaccine

CCP proverb if want to beat your dog first close the door

The virus will die one day.

Remember Communist Soviet

The father of Communist China already passed away.

(¯`v´¯)

.`•.¸.•´ ♥ Thank You ♥

[casyigan]

didn't you see images in this video that monks beat police and Tibetans kicked the innocent Han people?

who is virus!

[mrdraX22]

you really think people are ignorant with the exploding information age? and try to get biological facts right too, viruses do not die, we as a species have only eradicated 1 type of virus in our whole time as a species and that is smallpox.

[huaqing]

thx for uploading!