lol its hilarious to see on the morons in here arguing about religion..
if you have TRUE faith, you dont need to prove it and talk about it to others. EVER. Argue with that all you want.. but its fact.
this song is awesome.. in the end he is just saying he 'doesnt know'.. and neither do you.. you just BELIEVE you know. if thats good enough for you then be happy.
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wow, i really like this band, BUT the lyrics are pretty FAITHLESS...telling US to not have any faith in ANYTHING...wow...that sucks....eh ohwell...I WILL ALWAYS HAVE FAITH IN GOD, the allmighty. i hope one day they make a song about how God has and does help humanity. and of his REAL presence HERE, on EARTH. GOD LOVE YOU!!!!
obviously he does care, even about YOU...enough to send his only son to save you a space in heaven. But free will might get in your way of that enheritance. we'll see soon enough. God Loves u.
god loves everyone - thats why he'll send almost all of us c'ept for a few christians to hell to burn for ETERNITY not just a 1000 years but for eternity - even after we learn our lesson in hell he will still point and laugh at us for eternity just cause we messed up for 70 years. yep god sure loves us....
yup, because he gave you a choice to live with him, and so it will echo in all eternity, your choice, so by your own decision you will chose either heaven or hell...yup
imagine your the king of england and some people think your unfair because you just wasted 100million dollars on a war that was pointless. You just say God told me to do this war, if you have a problem take it up with God. Now all the dumb people who think that God exists - that dont want to burn in hell for eternity say alright do whatever you want. doesnt this hell thing sound too convenient - something your parents or the government would say just to make you behave?
of course this version of the song vastly differs in lyrics then what is present on the album, more then likely because the actual lyrics do renounce "a guarantee" in any form of a deity. if anything this version is watered down in order to reduce controversy in the music festival.
take the lyrics off the album THAT is dredg don't base the song of this rendition
kind of sad how people with such obvious profound spiritual gifts seem to believe that religion equals to ted haggard. i would love to hear these guys transcend the world rather than resigning to it.
I think that condescension towards those that do not identify with any organized religion may be the cause for a lot of people disassociating themselves from religion. Ever consider that?
Perhaps. I also think that anti-theism is sort of a band-wagon thing. Prosecution of Christians also pushes people away from the atheist culture. It goes both ways.
Everything is a "band-wagon" thing - that's human nature. And I don't see anyone persecuting Christians here. I've heard many more offensive statements than "I don't know".
I never said that this song was persecuting Christians. But if you deny that Christians are persecuted at all then, uh..... I would become literate and then browse through youtube comments on any Christian's videos.
Then you are right - it does work both ways. I didn't mean to imply that one side is better than the other - I just don't think anyone should ever push their belief system on others. My comment was only directed at the post above, which I considered obnoxious and condescending. (I find it quite obnoxious to imply that someone is missing something in their life if they do not prescribe to the same belief system as you)
no offense , but christians definetly deserve it... and if you "dont get that" scope out history, philosophy, the school of jerusalem (relies on the revelation of so few men; probably on amanita muscaria ;) :P ) is SOOO easy to break down... any true philosopher can tell you why you are better off using the rationality and emotions of the soul to achieve the divine mind. you dont need a book. you need a body, mind, and soul. earth needs you more than an imaginary god
not at all... i've done extensive research and taken several religious studies courses on the bible, quran, and works of the like... so how am i ignorant to that side? i'm forming my opinion based on a wide analysis, im not just a god basher... religion has done more damage to nature, humans, civilizations,etc, than any other force... how is that ignorance at it's finest? i'd like more than 4 words too... or wait, with god, all you need is one word to excuse everything right? :P try me...
That just shows humans aren't perfect. I'm pretty sure most of those faiths don't say anything about killing people in the name of their God, and if they are, they're taking the texts out of context. Don't blame the faith, blame the crazy people.
I must say, you aren't actually listening to the lyrics Toomapoosh. Anyone who has a slight bit of knowledge into Dredg, as well as a general ability to interpret lyrics and take a more insightful approach to these lyrics would show you that you're absolutely wrong. It's more about the inner struggle of a person to find what has, and will become of him, and his questioning of his faith. I don't see how the questioning of faith is anti-theism at all.
I wasn't refering to gavin as being an anti-theist. I was responding to someone who said that religion and theism is a band-wagon thing. I don't think questioning faith is anti-theism but then again he does say "Don't have faith in anything
Give it up, give it up", but you misunderstood what i was saying.
Once again you misinterpreted his meaning. Knowing most musicians work in 4 bar phrases, the entire phrase is actually "I've learned from casualty, Don't have faith in anything, Give it up, give it up". With this line included that you left out, it should be interpreted as something along the lines of because he's lost love/people/something of value, that faith in those objects should not be invested in. You should try to understand the lyrics rather than fit them under some blanket category
Ok I hope you understand i'm not trying to be "down" on dredg, they're most likely my favorite band. But we can all agree this is a song against a belief in god can we not?
I recommend searching online for the essay, "Letter to the Six Billionth Person," by Salman Rushdie, which was a huge (if not the overall) inspiration for the new album. It'll lay to rest whatever questions you have concerning the subject matter of this song. There is also a "stamp of origin" on the album cover that has the words "seven billionth" in relation to this as well.
i was really hoping to see them the 22nd in ATL but i can't get anyone else onboard because it's a weeknight!wtf?maybe all of my friends are getting too old to rock!!double wtf?fuck a job...take a sick day or just tough it out and go in on no sleep with party funk still covering you..if anyone says anything,be like"i'm sorry,i was just out enjoying my life!!"!hell,i'm almost 30 and i am not old in the slightest sense..fuck the job!!!go see Dredg and enjoy this moment before it passes!!!!really!!
i would go by myself but i am lacking in the vehicle department and the funding is thin,but if i could get friends on board..1)it would be cheaper with everyone pitching in and 2)it would be more of a friend bonding type event...fun by yourself is not anywhere near as fun as having a future story to share in common with others...not that i wouldn't find something fun to get into during and after the show..i mean,it's ATL...u could get lost in party mode for weeks if the right opportunity arises!
aaaaaahhhhhhhhh!!!!anyone want to buy a kidney?:P!!!that way i could get a ticket,cover a shuttle to Atl and fund beverages/other party supplies..wink wink!:)!of course i would have to get back too...food might be necessary at some point too!!Damnit!!i don't want to pawn my guitar..do i have anything else of value?let me see..anybody in the GA area want to buy a 73 Dodge Charger 440 Magnum(not running)?it's in pretty decent shape and only needs minimal work to run!fuck Craigslist!!$3000 it's urz
well,8 months without any positive income will do that to you..basically subsisting at the moment....still,i should be able to wrangle up $200 to cover it,i just don't want to go by myself,i enjoy shows better if i'm there with friends..it's kinda like eating at a fine dining restaurant by yourself..it's nolonger decadent,it's just sad...music is food for thought,especially Dredg's....they actually have a message,not like most of the garbage out there.spoon fed to starving minds,makin em sicker!
Totally agree. I went in a very bad moment for the family - ression and all. Let me tell you the positive outcome came right when I got home after the show ;) I consider it a good sign :)
Agnostics don't believe in some sort of higher entity. They simply take the stance that it is basically impossible to know whether or not there is a higher being and as such it is useless to deny or confirm the existence of one.
huh weird, a lot of agnostics i know say that they believe there's 'something' out there, they just don't know what. either way, thanks for gettin' back at me.
agreed. incubus was my favorite band when i was younger. i mean, they still are when i listen to them. but since a crow left of the murder and light grenades, i'm just not in touch with them. but yea, brandon boyd, amazing. never saw muse yet. i hope to soon. and queens of the stone age. i saw radiohead, it wasn't really %100 clear because radiohead is crazy, but thom yorke can perform well live also.
heard this in houston last thursday. it was a great show, but the venue...sucked..fucking..hard. so I was kind of disappointed. but dino did give me a pick after the show 8)
i dont know (no pun intended) why, but this song reminds me of phil collins, well the melody for some reason. i love this song though and yeah im really excited for their new album to come out.
Great song and amazing bass sounds drew is getting live with his keyboard. This is obviously soundboard sourced audio and pro shot and sounds amazing.
thoush the song is nice, there are too many mistakes in this live performance
R4V3NX 2 years ago
lol its hilarious to see on the morons in here arguing about religion..
if you have TRUE faith, you dont need to prove it and talk about it to others. EVER. Argue with that all you want.. but its fact.
this song is awesome.. in the end he is just saying he 'doesnt know'.. and neither do you.. you just BELIEVE you know. if thats good enough for you then be happy.
Rycon99 2 years ago
OUCH @ 2:09 :P
Stelios86 2 years ago
got that right right,but still,he has a nice voice!
trunkenstein 2 years ago
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wow, i really like this band, BUT the lyrics are pretty FAITHLESS...telling US to not have any faith in ANYTHING...wow...that sucks....eh ohwell...I WILL ALWAYS HAVE FAITH IN GOD, the allmighty. i hope one day they make a song about how God has and does help humanity. and of his REAL presence HERE, on EARTH. GOD LOVE YOU!!!!
hercules101 2 years ago
yea that's great and all but god doesn't exist.
parkaG 2 years ago 5
uh, YEAH he does...he's inside of YOU, and he will wait for u to return home if you want, but only if you want. PAX
hercules101 2 years ago
well then, that's about all the proof i need isn't it? i think ill haul my heathen ass off to church now. THANK YA JESUS.
parkaG 2 years ago
god doesn't give a damm for you, don't waist your time...
direpowa 2 years ago 2
obviously he does care, even about YOU...enough to send his only son to save you a space in heaven. But free will might get in your way of that enheritance. we'll see soon enough. God Loves u.
hercules101 2 years ago
god loves everyone - thats why he'll send almost all of us c'ept for a few christians to hell to burn for ETERNITY not just a 1000 years but for eternity - even after we learn our lesson in hell he will still point and laugh at us for eternity just cause we messed up for 70 years. yep god sure loves us....
ihavemonkeysinmybutt 2 years ago
yup, because he gave you a choice to live with him, and so it will echo in all eternity, your choice, so by your own decision you will chose either heaven or hell...yup
hercules101 2 years ago
imagine your the king of england and some people think your unfair because you just wasted 100million dollars on a war that was pointless. You just say God told me to do this war, if you have a problem take it up with God. Now all the dumb people who think that God exists - that dont want to burn in hell for eternity say alright do whatever you want. doesnt this hell thing sound too convenient - something your parents or the government would say just to make you behave?
ihavemonkeysinmybutt 2 years ago
he cares enough about all of us, to have sent his only son to take our faults upon himself, and re open the gates of paradise for our chosing...
hercules101 2 years ago
Then go listen to some "Christian" rock and shut the fuck up.
strangerhythm 2 years ago
yeah, u're right.... peace
hercules101 2 years ago
going to see them tomorrow cant wait for this.
dkaspar6 2 years ago
Been hollowed by uncertainty.
Simn0thing 2 years ago 2
of course this version of the song vastly differs in lyrics then what is present on the album, more then likely because the actual lyrics do renounce "a guarantee" in any form of a deity. if anything this version is watered down in order to reduce controversy in the music festival.
take the lyrics off the album THAT is dredg don't base the song of this rendition
darkrhonan 2 years ago
2:08 = another reason to love gigs!!!
Awesome band/song ^^
ipurbeltz 2 years ago 3
So is 0:05. SANZEN!
orphaeus99 2 years ago 3
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whitehotlightnoise 2 years ago
lol they always play this song in different tunings
daveonegative 2 years ago
kind of sad how people with such obvious profound spiritual gifts seem to believe that religion equals to ted haggard. i would love to hear these guys transcend the world rather than resigning to it.
rostigakallingar 2 years ago 2
I think that condescension towards those that do not identify with any organized religion may be the cause for a lot of people disassociating themselves from religion. Ever consider that?
bakercj93 2 years ago
Perhaps. I also think that anti-theism is sort of a band-wagon thing. Prosecution of Christians also pushes people away from the atheist culture. It goes both ways.
Toomapoosh 2 years ago
Everything is a "band-wagon" thing - that's human nature. And I don't see anyone persecuting Christians here. I've heard many more offensive statements than "I don't know".
bakercj93 2 years ago
I never said that this song was persecuting Christians. But if you deny that Christians are persecuted at all then, uh..... I would become literate and then browse through youtube comments on any Christian's videos.
Toomapoosh 2 years ago
Then you are right - it does work both ways. I didn't mean to imply that one side is better than the other - I just don't think anyone should ever push their belief system on others. My comment was only directed at the post above, which I considered obnoxious and condescending. (I find it quite obnoxious to imply that someone is missing something in their life if they do not prescribe to the same belief system as you)
bakercj93 2 years ago
no offense , but christians definetly deserve it... and if you "dont get that" scope out history, philosophy, the school of jerusalem (relies on the revelation of so few men; probably on amanita muscaria ;) :P ) is SOOO easy to break down... any true philosopher can tell you why you are better off using the rationality and emotions of the soul to achieve the divine mind. you dont need a book. you need a body, mind, and soul. earth needs you more than an imaginary god
JeReno6969 2 years ago
Ignorance at it's finest.
denveraic 2 years ago
not at all... i've done extensive research and taken several religious studies courses on the bible, quran, and works of the like... so how am i ignorant to that side? i'm forming my opinion based on a wide analysis, im not just a god basher... religion has done more damage to nature, humans, civilizations,etc, than any other force... how is that ignorance at it's finest? i'd like more than 4 words too... or wait, with god, all you need is one word to excuse everything right? :P try me...
JeReno6969 2 years ago 2
That just shows humans aren't perfect. I'm pretty sure most of those faiths don't say anything about killing people in the name of their God, and if they are, they're taking the texts out of context. Don't blame the faith, blame the crazy people.
tapirdrummer 2 years ago 3
truth.
Toomapoosh 2 years ago
I must say, you aren't actually listening to the lyrics Toomapoosh. Anyone who has a slight bit of knowledge into Dredg, as well as a general ability to interpret lyrics and take a more insightful approach to these lyrics would show you that you're absolutely wrong. It's more about the inner struggle of a person to find what has, and will become of him, and his questioning of his faith. I don't see how the questioning of faith is anti-theism at all.
TheDarkKnight7 2 years ago 2
I wasn't refering to gavin as being an anti-theist. I was responding to someone who said that religion and theism is a band-wagon thing. I don't think questioning faith is anti-theism but then again he does say "Don't have faith in anything
Give it up, give it up", but you misunderstood what i was saying.
Toomapoosh 2 years ago
Once again you misinterpreted his meaning. Knowing most musicians work in 4 bar phrases, the entire phrase is actually "I've learned from casualty, Don't have faith in anything, Give it up, give it up". With this line included that you left out, it should be interpreted as something along the lines of because he's lost love/people/something of value, that faith in those objects should not be invested in. You should try to understand the lyrics rather than fit them under some blanket category
TheDarkKnight7 2 years ago
Ok I hope you understand i'm not trying to be "down" on dredg, they're most likely my favorite band. But we can all agree this is a song against a belief in god can we not?
Toomapoosh 2 years ago
I recommend searching online for the essay, "Letter to the Six Billionth Person," by Salman Rushdie, which was a huge (if not the overall) inspiration for the new album. It'll lay to rest whatever questions you have concerning the subject matter of this song. There is also a "stamp of origin" on the album cover that has the words "seven billionth" in relation to this as well.
OneMansLoss 2 years ago
Oh yeah i know what inspired this album. I've part of that essay. Although I disagree with dredg and that essay I understand what they're saying.
Guitman3131 2 years ago
i was really hoping to see them the 22nd in ATL but i can't get anyone else onboard because it's a weeknight!wtf?maybe all of my friends are getting too old to rock!!double wtf?fuck a job...take a sick day or just tough it out and go in on no sleep with party funk still covering you..if anyone says anything,be like"i'm sorry,i was just out enjoying my life!!"!hell,i'm almost 30 and i am not old in the slightest sense..fuck the job!!!go see Dredg and enjoy this moment before it passes!!!!really!!
tSIXe666 2 years ago
man i drove two hours at 12am when i had to work 7:30 am to see them BY MYSELF!
wackybrak 2 years ago
i would go by myself but i am lacking in the vehicle department and the funding is thin,but if i could get friends on board..1)it would be cheaper with everyone pitching in and 2)it would be more of a friend bonding type event...fun by yourself is not anywhere near as fun as having a future story to share in common with others...not that i wouldn't find something fun to get into during and after the show..i mean,it's ATL...u could get lost in party mode for weeks if the right opportunity arises!
tSIXe666 2 years ago
im goin lol, i mean, you cant pass up a dredg concert its just unethical :D
fred2001bear 2 years ago
you got me there...:P
tSIXe666 2 years ago
Just go! Don't miss them, the show is great! I went from BC to both WA shows a week ago by myself. Well worth it! And I am 30+ :)
Just go!
InfraredDream 2 years ago
aaaaaahhhhhhhhh!!!!anyone want to buy a kidney?:P!!!that way i could get a ticket,cover a shuttle to Atl and fund beverages/other party supplies..wink wink!:)!of course i would have to get back too...food might be necessary at some point too!!Damnit!!i don't want to pawn my guitar..do i have anything else of value?let me see..anybody in the GA area want to buy a 73 Dodge Charger 440 Magnum(not running)?it's in pretty decent shape and only needs minimal work to run!fuck Craigslist!!$3000 it's urz
tSIXe666 2 years ago
WOW :)
As it is that bad.. betther don't go
InfraredDream 2 years ago
well,8 months without any positive income will do that to you..basically subsisting at the moment....still,i should be able to wrangle up $200 to cover it,i just don't want to go by myself,i enjoy shows better if i'm there with friends..it's kinda like eating at a fine dining restaurant by yourself..it's nolonger decadent,it's just sad...music is food for thought,especially Dredg's....they actually have a message,not like most of the garbage out there.spoon fed to starving minds,makin em sicker!
tSIXe666 2 years ago
Totally agree. I went in a very bad moment for the family - ression and all. Let me tell you the positive outcome came right when I got home after the show ;) I consider it a good sign :)
I am wishing you best of luck!
InfraredDream 2 years ago
thanks for the support!:)
tSIXe666 2 years ago
i'm going to see them tonight in portland. epic.
wackybrak 2 years ago
I'm absorbed in mediocrity
BEEN HALLOWED BY uncertainty
Glazed with profanity
And conform like fraternity
I yearn for serenity
With endless possibilities
Overwhelming capabilities
Molitoth 2 years ago
oh my god! i think the album release got pushed back once again until june
ryonafan 2 years ago
been hollowed by uncertainty
atothej1822 2 years ago
Sounds like he's professing agnosticism.
recoveringsheep 2 years ago
naw sounds more like atheism, which sucks. agnostics still believe in some sort of higher entity. gavin's singing about completely giving faith up.
tapirdrummer 2 years ago
Agnostics don't believe in some sort of higher entity. They simply take the stance that it is basically impossible to know whether or not there is a higher being and as such it is useless to deny or confirm the existence of one.
CrushedAria 2 years ago
huh weird, a lot of agnostics i know say that they believe there's 'something' out there, they just don't know what. either way, thanks for gettin' back at me.
tapirdrummer 2 years ago
Uhhh...no. Agnostics "don't know," like the song says. I'm an agnostic and I would not say I believe in some sort of higher entity.
recoveringsheep 2 years ago
hey aren't you on the ftm forums?
tapirdrummer 2 years ago
Yeah, I am, I thought I recognized your name.
recoveringsheep 2 years ago
@tapirdrummer
Wrong. Agnostics believe the existence of God is unknowable.
Atheists believe there is no god.
Agnostics are usually atheists because they choose not to believe in something you can't know.
muzik313 10 months ago
in music there is no better or worse... only different.. your arguments are really childish
Gerbs27 2 years ago
ive seen them live. they dont disapoint thats for sure! between Dino being a beast on drums and the nearly perfect vocals of Gavin its pretty amazing
Speed0b0y 2 years ago
Who else can sing this well live!!!? No one thats who/
djprosse8283 3 years ago
I have to disagree, but Matt Bellamy (from Muse) can
serness 3 years ago
Brandon Boyd (incubus) thats who
Gavarooney 3 years ago
agreed. incubus was my favorite band when i was younger. i mean, they still are when i listen to them. but since a crow left of the murder and light grenades, i'm just not in touch with them. but yea, brandon boyd, amazing. never saw muse yet. i hope to soon. and queens of the stone age. i saw radiohead, it wasn't really %100 clear because radiohead is crazy, but thom yorke can perform well live also.
cerpinvismund 2 years ago
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oh, I hate to mention him, but BONO from U2 can sing live just perfectly
RRCompanion 2 years ago
Trent Reznor.
and this song fuckin' rocks
BrendanTakash 2 years ago
Dustin Kensrue of thrice is a beast at live vocals, probably better than Gavin, but they are both great vocalists.
arefx 2 years ago
@arefx Gavin and Dustin are definitely different. Gavin's live vocals are smoother, but Dustin has so much energy in his voice.
muzik313 10 months ago
instead of "penetrate mentality" im 99% sure he says
"with endless possibilities"
RoadBlockDriver 3 years ago
I second that man, its quite the clear lyric. Its not like disphering Radiohead or anything. Great song by the way, cant wait for the album.
JakeGraham420 3 years ago
Nicee. and i also think its "hollowed by uncertainty".
darksaviour89 3 years ago
amazing song
bubafoo 3 years ago
The new album is going to destroy.
MuddahPlucka 3 years ago 7
heard this in houston last thursday. it was a great show, but the venue...sucked..fucking..hard. so I was kind of disappointed. but dino did give me a pick after the show 8)
jrbaconcheez 3 years ago
been followed by uncertainty maybe?
Anyways i'm always digging the dredg.
wekka 3 years ago 4
i dont know (no pun intended) why, but this song reminds me of phil collins, well the melody for some reason. i love this song though and yeah im really excited for their new album to come out.
payum00 3 years ago
2nd line..."hollowed by uncertainty"(?)
thebassline707 3 years ago
great song!!
so glad they played it in Italy.
ValeVeddie 3 years ago
Fucking marvelous that was.
sandyclaws666 3 years ago
holy bujeebuz... i love this song so much. esspecially when Gavin screams "SINGING, I DONT KNOW, I'LL NEVER KNOW! I'LL GIVE IT UUUP!!"
and is it just me or does it sound like hes saying "im giving up" instead of "i'll give it up" ?
RoadBlockDriver 3 years ago
Drew is switching off and using the bass on the chorus now. Sounds better IMO.
sweetbread 3 years ago
oh man...with this album...we are in for such a treat.
Shefpx9 3 years ago 2
amazing!
lambofgoddrummer07 3 years ago
Man i really like the direction they are going with their new stuff. very impressed as always.
drumfreak781 3 years ago
The guitar parts are so awesome.
recoverarecobras 3 years ago 3
liking the sounds of the new stuff
anyone know of potential release dates?
tallharry 3 years ago
february 09
nehgro 3 years ago
dredg and transcending lyrics, that's what it's all about. And damn, Mark never sucks tone-wise with the guitar. The guy has one lovely setup.
DemoColorScheme 3 years ago 4
dredg is THE best band ever!!!!
Shryke2010 3 years ago 11
Awesome!! Dredg is so sweet!
BTmac 3 years ago
my goodness !!! wow !!! I love dredg can't wait till the album comes out !!!
carlosmdiaz1 3 years ago
Great song and amazing bass sounds drew is getting live with his keyboard. This is obviously soundboard sourced audio and pro shot and sounds amazing.
Is that a popcorn stand near drews keyboard? lol.
Jeffero28 3 years ago 2
nice
Creeeeeeeeeep 3 years ago
lyrics are sick...hope i go somewhere special when i die...haha
FreshPrinceCTZ 3 years ago
"hollowed by uncertainty"
laika333 3 years ago
Yes, "Been hollowed by uncertainty." I agree.
thefuture2025 3 years ago
can't wait for the cd! does anyone have any info about it??
Jabiri5150 3 years ago
yes. it's called cookieclock
releasing in fall this year?
purty707 3 years ago
I thought it was called Quotes? cookieclock sounds ridiculous
psychopomp88 3 years ago
according to the world wide web, the new album is called cookieclock. and i think it fits just fine.
purty707 3 years ago
hm alright. well thanks for the info!
psychopomp88 3 years ago
i love dredg i love dredg i love dredg
dcarmona05 3 years ago
Juicy tune. I love these lyrics.
Venona6 3 years ago 3
dredg just CANNOT possibly make a song that doesn't rock
nuff said
boynamedmax 3 years ago 8
Oh goodness, I love this song!
randomname2505 3 years ago 2
Oh finally some good quality vids of the new stuff. This is great, thanks
BeelKeel 3 years ago 2
oh yea thank you
cockrandy 3 years ago 2
Such a Good New Song, it's always good when bands keep evolving!
rarana25 3 years ago 3