PROPAGANDA GREKE VAZHDON AKOMA NUK E VJEDHIN DOT ME HISTORIN E SHQIPTARIT TURKO ALVANI SKA PAT KURRE MOR BIR PUTANE ESHT VETEM PRPAGANDA JUAJ POR DO VI NJE KOH DO TI PAUGANI TE GJITHA ATO CKENI BER SHQIPERIA E BASHKUAR KOSOVE CAMERI DHE SHIQPERI DO JEMI NJE POSHT RRACISTAT GREK
as for the pure Albanian that is something simple for every body to realize if you have a population that has the surnames and even the word Sulioti in Albanian means the "attack" leads the wars and right the letters in one language i dont know what ells i could say to that.
you should not forget that Mark Bocari never know any other language, but Albanian. that is a fact. you have the letters he had correspondence to other generals of the time. they were all Albanian. sometime Albanian with very poor broken Greek. same to kolokotroni same to bubulina.
Padyshim qe Marko Bocari ishte shqiptar,kjo nuk do shume mend.Une njof dhe kam shok sterniper te tij ketu ne shqiperi madje gjyshja e njerit prej tyre ka edhe nje unaze qe mendohet se i perkiste Markos.Pamvaresisht se per cfare dhe per ke ka luftuar Marko Bocari ne venat e tij ka rrjedh gjak SHQIPTAR dhe te gjithe trimat e tij ishin shqiptar te sulit.Le te pretendojne cte duan greket ajo qe eshte e vertete gjithe bota e di se lirine greket e kane fituar nga gjenerale qe ishin shqiptare..........
po ky legeni, plehra pse i quan "turkshqiptare"...cfare ndyresire. Le qe ska faj, ka te drejte te na emertoje si te doje. Teksa sheh qe shqiptaret kane vrare njeri tjetrin, e kane prere, dhe skane ditur kurre te luftojne per vendin dhe token e tyre, Gjithnje jane bere pre dhe mashe e te tjereve...
lall the educated people in Europe know that Marko was Albanian, spoke Albanian wrote the first Albanian dictionary, BUT they fought in the name of SOULI, not Greek nor Albanian because to them it was no difference between them..Only the real SOULI can understand. By blood and culture they are Albanian.
Marko Bocari ka familje ne Australi dhe ata thane se ne jena Shqiptare, pra M.Bocari ishte Shqiptare. Por ta leme kete pune ne e duam qe Cameria te kthehet te shteti i vet Shqiperia.
katantia re gamwto, na milaei o evraios gia istoria. ekei exoume katanthsei oloi oi plhrwmenoi poustares gemhsan thn voulh kai thn thleorash. gamw ta paxh sou mamalak kwloevraie savra
PO nese lexon cfare thote interpretuesi duket qarte se ata ishin Shqiptare te veshur njesoj por me fe te ndryshme madje aty tregon se Marku ju foli luftetareve te tij ne Gjuhen Arvanite dhe ne gjuhen greke pjeses tjeter.Gjuha arvanite nuk eshte asgje me pak vetem nje dialekt i gjuhes shqipe te asaj kohe.
ty mendoj une je himarjot ,qe thua per shkollen se ne himare nuk kishte shkolle greqisht se himarjotet jane shqiptare.ndersa suliotet nuk ishin arvaniter ata ishin ,camer kristiane ortodokse,se gjuha e tyre anonte nga gjuha shqipe e dialektit cam....hajt pirdhu o tradhetar...
ty mos genje o mut,te gjithe greket ,kush ishte grk fliste dhe shkruante greqisht se fillorja ishte teresisht ne greqisht.dhe ne ate sistem te enver hoxhes nuk kishte shkolla te fshehta se veje ne burg,,,,,,,
@Axeldevil One nation include more than one race like Albanian Nation. Illyrians were ever (from ancient times ) present at Greece. Read mythology and you will understand why Greeks (which were many relative tribes NOT ONE tribe) thought Illyrians were very close to them. Have you any idea for how many years Greeks and Illyrians lived together and very close one to each other?
5:01 ''25000 TURKALBANIANS AGAINST BOTSARIS''...ARE YOU STILL BELIEVE THAT BOTSARIS WAS ALBANIAN??
5:05 ''BOTSARIS FOUGHT AGAINST AGAS SKODRA FROM ALBANIA''...OUPS...AN ALBANIAN KILLING ALBANIANS??....THINK AGAIN IF BOTSARIS WAS GREEK-ARVANITIS WHO (ITS TRUTH) SPOKE ALBANIAN!
5:08 TELL US WHY DID BOTSARIS FOUGHT AGAINST ALBANIANS?
5:14 TELL US WHY DID YOU QUOTED THE WORD ''GREEK'' SULIOTES?...MAMALAKIS DIDNT QUOTED IN HIS WORDS....HE CLEARLY SAYS GREEK SULIOTES!
@POTIS1 It's pretty clear that greeks are the mos ignorant nation in the Balkans. They learn the history of shovinism and "Megalis Idea" and still dream for the great Greece. Well you can just dream because it will never be reality.
The real name of the hero was MARKO BOCARI and not Botsaris, and he was Albanian by pure blood. But since greeks don't have their own heroes they try to "loan" albanian heroes. Shame on you!
NOW LOOK THE ''ALBANIAN'' BOCARI....WHO KILLED HIM!
ENGLISH WIKI SAYS THIS BUT THE ALBANIAN WIKI ''DOING THE DUCK''.....
''Botsaris managed to take Mustai Pasha as a prisoner during the raid,[citation needed] but he was shot in the head and killed in battle by Llesh i Zi, an Albanian from Mirditë.''
NICE...AN ''ALBANIAN'' WHO FOUGHT AGAINST ALBANIANS AND KILLED BY ALBANIAN.....
@POTIS1 Greeks are never shot by greeks? Let me refresh your memories with the greek civil war and it was not in the 19 century but after the Second World War in 1970's. So let the bullshit apart and accept the truth, if you can obviously, because only a real man or woman can accept the truth!
@BillyJimmyLee Oh i forgot that u mean with civil war, the horrible genocide that were made by greeks and the criminal ZERVA against albanians in Parga, Paramithi, Filat, Igumenice, Spatar. By the way speaking of ignorance again that is called GENOCIDE and not civil war, because greeks assaulted Albanian population, which means killing, torturing, deporting from their homes and land.
58 people a genocide. Quite credible arguments. Italians and Albanian forces assaulted greek speaking populations too. Sure, Zervas was a criminal. But not more than Balli Kombetar, Ustasha, Cetnik etc. Same shit - different name. All were goat-stealers! Now fuck off and go whine about somewhere else. Our world doesn't need any of you on both sides. You heard me...fuck off now...
@BillyJimmyLee For your information there were more than 1500 people slaughtered, killed, deported. The great Collonel Zervas was a criminal, what a new theory from a greek. And what about two of his statues standing in Greece??Is this another error?Sure not, cause he acted in the name of greek politics and now you tell he was a criminal! What a pitiful nation!Try to illuminate your historical knowledge.Mediocre ignorant!
He didn't act in the name of Greek politics, and stop using this sophisticated english it gets to my nerves. What he did for the Resistance is one thing, what he did to Chams is another. But he didn't have anyone's approval either. He also run for parliament but didn't get voted. He died a few years after. Do you now recognise the virtue of democracy?
@BillyJimmyLee You should be thankful for my vocabulary because this way you improve your English, which to be fair is not better than a 3rd grade elementary student :P
@BillyJimmyLee Nobody knows greek, so if you want to speak to yourself like you're in a state of limbo, you better get to learn a little bit more English..
Nobody aspires to Great Greece. This was in the south of Italy long time ago in a galaxy far away. Androutsos, Samouil, Nikitaras, Gregory the Just, Ypsilantis, Skoufas, Ksanthos, Tsakalof, indigenous Cretans, Epirotes, Thessalians, Moraetae, Greek diplomats in great powers of that time (Russia etc), Rigas Fereos, Karaiskakis, KOLOKOTRONIS, Makrygiannis, self-motivated priests and scholars, foreign military officers, all united ultimately for the common cause.
@BillyJimmyLee What do you mean that the Great Greece was in south of Italy? Megalis Idea the shovinist programme from the greeks was just in the 19-th century, or better in or baout 1844 directly after greeks became independent with the help of ALBANIANS!!! Pls don't bother to citate anonymus names which nobody besides greeks has knowledge for.
You have to thank Ismail Qemali because hadn't he not woke up, you might have been annihilated by everyone, Croats, Greeks, Italians, Serbs, tis poutanas to kagelo tha eixe ginei. The italians didn't have any chauvinism when they were trying to use you? DO WE ALWAYS HAVE TO BE THE CHAUVINISTS? And you have to thank the Greeks and Serbs, because now you might have been a soldier guarding the borders in Prespes. Either from Turks or Bulgars! Ainte malaka!
@BillyJimmyLee It's clear that you're as scandalous as the other greeks wherever the world. Wash your mouth bloody bastard when speaking for Ismail Qemali and other Albanian historical figures. We'll never be annihilated, as we have never been in millenniums since the Illyrian times. Yes we have suffered a lot from our bastard neighbours as greeks and serbs, but we have survived and you can't do anything about that, fucking greeks!
I am just stating the truth. The fact that your people was suffering from lack of unity and the lack desire to express autonomy with the rest of the revolted Ottoman provinces. We all were ottoman empire once, remember?
@BillyJimmyLee Hahahha, that's really funny. My people suffered from lack of unity and were happy within Ottoman Empire?This is ridiculous and infantile. Albanains didn's get independent earlier than their neighbours, because they fighted in both camps:the ottomans and their neighbours which immediately after St. Stephan Treaty (1878), invaded albanian territories in north, east and south too.
The majority of your population were just happy either way. More than half of the population is muslim. You amaze me when you accuse christians while you fail to recognize that islam apart from religious has political extensions too. This will become clear for you when the EU funds start to come in. Let's see who will get the most share. The orthodox, the catholic, or the muslims? Will Turkey then act as a proxy or not stretching the hand of 'peace'?
@BillyJimmyLee Another thing, the religion of Albanians is ALBANISM neither islam, orthodoxy nor catholicism,and we know how to separate state from religion.Do greeks too?I' m afraid not, you identify your nation through orthodoxism contrary to Albanians who identify themselves through their antic culture and traditions.
What is that? A polemic quote? Man, it's the 2010. In Theology classes at school we never got to learn about 'albanism'. I am just stating that ISLAM has political extensions ever since it's creation. It is a middle eastern philosophy which unites arabs. Christianity has been a tool too, but was never a doctrine for rule. You have to give quotas about the status of these religions. What are you going to present them in the field 'official religion', 'Albanism'?
@BillyJimmyLee The Albanian State has 3 official religions: muslimanism, orthodixism and catholicism. Even though the state as institutional body is laic , which means is not affected by religion. Albanian are free to practice and to believe which religion they want.When i referred to Albanism, i meant that Albanians are not united by their religion but by their traditions, which Albanism represents.
@BillyJimmyLee How do you know about my people that were happy?Where do you base that?Oh I forgot that you have a PHD in greek history.I didn't accuse neither christians or muslims or any other religion, for sure you should learn English, cause you seem really confused..
When Edith Durham came to albanian territories she was stunned that Albanians were the only people to identify themselves as simply albanians, not christians nor muslims. SHe travelled across Balkans, everywhere she met people identifying themselves as orthodox, catholics and moslems (Bosnia), in Albanian territories they were simply Albanians.
I don't say that. More than 70% of Ottoman Europe's military administrators were either Albanian or Bosnian. There is no record of battles that Albanians took part in either the Balcan Wars or before as a united entity in the region. The christian albanians sided either with Greeks or with other christian populations. Being christian at that time was HELL. Religion played a great role back then. Not anymore, but THEN.
@BillyJimmyLee Record of Albanian battles? Hahah, how do you even think that there aren't.I'm just giving you a few: From 1727 to 1786 the Bushati nobele family of Shkodra has fighted against the ottomans and tried to take autonomy of all the northern and southern Albania. Same with Ali Pashe Tepelena who created a de facto autonomy and went against Sultan power until his death at 1822. Then after 1878 there were the battles of Albanian league of Prizren against the ottomans and serbs til 1890
@BillyJimmyLee What do you refer with Balkan wars?The wars that serbians and greeks made against Albanians with the pretex of fighting the turks after 1878?In that occasion they invaded Albanian territories in north, east and south, trying to prove that Albanians didn't even exist.That's the true history man, but I'm not sure if you'll ever give up your version and accept the truth.
I am sorry, but I cannot continue like this. Please consult at least wikipedia - -I know, not the most reliable source - to know what I am refering to. There are others in the equation apart from Greeks and Serbs,
@POTIS1 Try to see the first one : He said : Marko started to study French and had wrote the first Albanian-Greek dictionary . What is this ?????
In ottoman empire albania was a turkish colony like greece was , they was different Pasha(prince that serves to Ottoman Empire) that had they troops(turks and albanians traitors) and fought with order of Ottoman Empire. Greek too had some divisions. Sulliot wasnt greek , they was albanians , Marko too was , the journalist too said this ...
@POTIS1 Rare privillege for albanians??? We albanians are very very patient but when we lose it its difficult to reconquest it again. Happened usually with greeks like you that pretend things without referencers ?? I must believe you , or your journalist . I dont think that your more preparete that this journalist . The journalist here is greek man and yuo too must believe what he is saying . Itts not the first time that greeks said : Arvanits is greek , Scanderbeg is greek .. Come on??????
''The Souliotes established an autonomous confederacy dominating a large number of neighbouring villages in the remote mountainous areas of Epirus, In Ottoman ruled Epirus, national identity didn't play any role to the social classification of the local society, while religion was the key factor of classification of the local communities. According to this, the Muslim communities in Epirus were classified as Turks, while the Orthodox, like the Souliotes, were classified as Greeks.
Souli ( Albanian: Suli Greek: Σούλι) is a community originally settled by refugees who were hunted by the Ottomans in Paramythia, Thesprotia, Greece. Population 748 (2001). The seat of the community is in Samonida. In the 18th and 19th century, the citizens of Souli rebelled against the Ottoman occupation. Souli is also a male name.'' FROM REFERENCE ON LINE....
@POTIS1 Come on , if the journalist is an asshole why you dont look or search about this dictionary that Bocari published : Search for the first Albanian - Greek dictionary .Ok?? I havent time to waste here bla bla bla . It is not cited anyone that Souliotes are greek , and hadnt cited anyone with the name SULIOT-GREEKS ?!!!
Hey pal, let's simply stop the arguments over homogenous people of the Balkans. It simply doesn't have any effect, anywhere. From both sides there are some valid arguments but what is donw is done. Probably the timing was tough, I don't know and to be honest it doesn't matter anymore.
thankyou,a now thate ,the souli before 1800 spoke only albania .the pope of souli because thay are ortodoks have writing the histori of souli on the greek languige....thanks again....
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i arvanites ine dhiaferotiko apo ton suliotes,ja ti millusane poli sosto allvaniko,emis pu kserume allvanika ta katallavenume afto.akuse afto pu millai ti lei ja ton marko bocari otan itane ston napolon tin galia.
ellines fovontousan na milane ellinika.... kai oti oploi ellines alvanopiithikan tha to theorisw anistorikotita .... kai tha sou svisw to sxolio ... ektos ean fereis kapio quote apo istoriko ...........
OMG telika eisai o pio oniropolis ilithios stin gi, re skatokefale oi othomanes minousane Albanika? hahahhahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahah
eisai apextos, re MALAKA mono sou to les tin malakia, akou edw tin malakia pou les re vlaka, me ta legoma na sou oi othomanes vazanai tous Albanian anamesa tous Ellhnes gia na tous roufianepsoun auto omos simenh oti ----------sinexia
oti i Albanian eprepe na milane Ellhnika RE ILITHIE PLASMA,
"re paliomalaka kai ego den iksera ellinika . exw 2o ksadelfia ou den milane ellinika"
pali tin eipes tin malakia sou! eisai apextos leme! esu genithikes kai ezises Ellada kai den ikseres Ellhnika? ta ksadelfia genithikan Ellada kai megalosan Ellada kai den kseroune Ellhnika? hahahhahahahahahahhaa sou eipa eisai apextos malakas
SULI (Documentary of ET3) *Part 1* kitakse kai ta tria auta. kai edw sto Marko Bocaru Documentary giati leei oti mathenh ta Ellhnika ? kai exane to proto metafrasti AlbanoElhhniko ? pios einai skatofatsa twra ? apo tin Episimh Kratikh TV lmao
re skatokefalo i Ellhnikh gratikh tileorasi sto leei oti EINAI ALBANIAN. oops einai kai to ET3 tis thesalonikhs ti hronia kai auto, pigenai na autoktonisis twra
I nderuar Axel jo eshte vetem nje parentez e detyruar " restua duhet kthyer me te njejten monedhe" Ne kemi per detyre secili me mundesit e tij sa do te vogla, te mbrojme kulturen , historine ,kombin dhe nuk mund te pranojme nje kollon te peste brenda kufijve tashme te pergjysmuar nga shovinizmi klerikal grek.
mire po ska nevoje ti shajme me llafe te pista , sepse komentet e grekeve me llafe te pista hiqen ne moment.... komentin tend e lashe per pergjigjjen e sharjes se CaptainSM4...........
jo jo ne shqiptaret nuk e kemi per fe por e kemi per historine e vertete se historia eshte e jona dhe suli ka folur shqip pavarsisht se cfare besimi fetar kishte.greket e thone qe jane ortodokse dhe jane greker,e kupton zoteri diferencen.
nuk ma do mendja qe ishte lufte fetare ,por ishte me teper per mendimin tim,lufte interesash dhe lufte per hunde[komande],por greket e kane shfrytezuar per ta paraqitur lufte ndermjet myslimanizmitdhe krishterimit.suliotet deshen te benin ligjin ne rrethet e janines e perreth ku komandonte ali pasha i cili kerkonte te bashkonte te gjithe kundra sulltanit,sa ju pre koka.
ej kapterr,i vetmi gabim i ali pashes ishte qe hoqi dore nga nenshtrimi qe o tu bente juve himarjoteve,gabimi me i madh i tij.te paret tuaj qendruan per shume vite shpellave dhe grate e femijt iken ne lefkadhe e gjetke dhe kur u kthien andej erdhen perseri ne himare dhe flisnin greqisht ,qe atehere u fol greqishtja ne himare dhe ndryshoi politika e himarjoteve se deri atehere ishin shqiptare dhe me vone e mbajten vehten disa himarjote greker.
si himarjot qe jeni psefto-burra gjuhen e mesuat si te thashe se nje pjese shoqeruan grate dhe femijet ne lefkadhe e gjetke dhe kur u kthyen e kishin mesuar greqishten se ndenjen shume kohe kur i shtrengoi aliu.por ju himarjoter jeni lidheni pas vrakazonit te grave.....hahahahahahahahahahaha....tani cfare do thuash dhe pse bere blok.
Ne jemi SHQIPTAR, bijte e shqipes ndersa ca himarjote ( jo te gjithe)si ty duan te quhen helene ose bijte e helenes por duhet ta dish Helena eshte kurva e pare e historise, qe tradhetoj burrin e saj( merhum ) grek me nje trojan.Ta gezoni e emrine ri BIJTE E KURVES. P.S Une besoj ne ate qe skruan nje himariot i madh PETRO MARKO dhe jo qurrash si ju te shitur tek greku per 5 dhramhe.RROFTE HIMARA SHQIPTARE!!!!!!!!!!!
pffffttt KaterrSuma, eshte ne dokumenta qe Aliu sado qe ishte kasap jo vetem me kaurret por me te gjithe, tregon qe ai vetem u dergoi Himarjoteve nje deklarate, nqs ata donin te ktheheshin ne myslyamn qe mos te paguanin taksat, dhe ata nuk pranuan, dhe nuk i preku per kete, keshtu mos pirdh kot, sado qe je plak zoterote.
TurkishOrthodox KaterrSuma, who is that countru that never had dictators!
I mean look at you, you are the product of orthodox turks, and nothing more got it, ohh yeah and they still do, I send you the video of the Greek Turkish love didn't I? ;)
Ali Pasha was a LAB the same as the Himarjots are.
ohhhh really how do you know, mos u mbajte gje qiririn, apo i mbajti Aliu qiririn sateme...hahhahaahha
And you are the turko-orthodox, is ok, why you feel ashamed of your gypsy background. I mean just look at the guy who is telling the history of the real people he is a fat 5 foot just like you are....:/
@topallia" Both Greeks and Ethiopians share quasi-specific DRB1 alleles, such as *0305, *0307, *0411, *0413, *0416, *0417, *0420, *1110, *1112, *1304 and *1310. Genetic distances are closer between Greeks and Ethiopian/sub-Saharan groups than to any other Mediterranean group and finally Greeks cluster with Ethiopians/sub-Saharans".Shhhhhhh little African.
Ky rrumbullaku fjet me shume pasion, por gjate gjithe komentit ai vete pranon qe suljotet flisnin vetem shqip.Pastaj ska shume rendesi nga vinin nga jugu o .nga veriu . suljotet jane ata qe spranuan te lene trojet dhe te nderrojne fene dhe armiku per ta ishte turqia.dhe jo shqiptaret, por kisha greke beri gjithçka qe te bind suljotet qe çdo shqiptar myslyman eshte turk. sot ne duhet te mbrojme çdo faqe te historise tone nga keta pseudo historian shovinist RROFTE SHQIPERIA !
edhe i grek eshte, hahahahhahahahahaahahahaa se kan then akoma se nuk e njofin edhe Vojo Kushi Grek eshte se eshte nga Shkodra dhe Shkodra eshte vojropiri HAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA FUCK MOTHERFUCKER GREEK
suljotet jane puro shqipetar dhe jo dosido por shqiptar e bir shqiptari. Atehere skishte koncept kufinjsh dhe shikoheshe me shume interesi personal se simagjinohej ne ate kohe nje renie e perandorise otomane.
Kjo mund të jetë dy mesazhe: një mund të jetë Propagand e Grekut që neve të shqipëris të merrim inat në Suliotë Shqipëtar dhe mos ti konsiderojm si shqipëtar por grek. Ose e dyta që mund të jet se kështu ka qen e vërteta se këta Tradhëtar të kombit Suliot shqipëtar që e thrasin vetën grek nuk mund ta lëjn FEN anash dhe të luftojn për kombin se ishin pakicë në mesin e myslimanëve.
GREEK HISTORY AT ITS FINEST.
DJVBasil 3 weeks ago
its a cooking show xaxaxaxa
rurounisld 2 months ago
PROPAGANDA GREKE VAZHDON AKOMA NUK E VJEDHIN DOT ME HISTORIN E SHQIPTARIT TURKO ALVANI SKA PAT KURRE MOR BIR PUTANE ESHT VETEM PRPAGANDA JUAJ POR DO VI NJE KOH DO TI PAUGANI TE GJITHA ATO CKENI BER SHQIPERIA E BASHKUAR KOSOVE CAMERI DHE SHIQPERI DO JEMI NJE POSHT RRACISTAT GREK
Labi1550 2 months ago
as for the pure Albanian that is something simple for every body to realize if you have a population that has the surnames and even the word Sulioti in Albanian means the "attack" leads the wars and right the letters in one language i dont know what ells i could say to that.
spinxakbc 10 months ago
you should not forget that Mark Bocari never know any other language, but Albanian. that is a fact. you have the letters he had correspondence to other generals of the time. they were all Albanian. sometime Albanian with very poor broken Greek. same to kolokotroni same to bubulina.
spinxakbc 10 months ago
Cfare plaku palaco! Shihe si spjegon duke demostruar! Me vjen inat se si asnjehere te vetme nuk e permendi qe ishte shqiptar!
Blerta600 11 months ago
Fuck who accepts the truth and who doesn't
This is just another story of Albanians...
Suliotes and Ali Pasha fought side by side against the Turks ...
Bardh87 1 year ago
Padyshim qe Marko Bocari ishte shqiptar,kjo nuk do shume mend.Une njof dhe kam shok sterniper te tij ketu ne shqiperi madje gjyshja e njerit prej tyre ka edhe nje unaze qe mendohet se i perkiste Markos.Pamvaresisht se per cfare dhe per ke ka luftuar Marko Bocari ne venat e tij ka rrjedh gjak SHQIPTAR dhe te gjithe trimat e tij ishin shqiptar te sulit.Le te pretendojne cte duan greket ajo qe eshte e vertete gjithe bota e di se lirine greket e kane fituar nga gjenerale qe ishin shqiptare..........
SmokerOnline 1 year ago
po ky legeni, plehra pse i quan "turkshqiptare"...cfare ndyresire. Le qe ska faj, ka te drejte te na emertoje si te doje. Teksa sheh qe shqiptaret kane vrare njeri tjetrin, e kane prere, dhe skane ditur kurre te luftojne per vendin dhe token e tyre, Gjithnje jane bere pre dhe mashe e te tjereve...
mondi2780 1 year ago
lall the educated people in Europe know that Marko was Albanian, spoke Albanian wrote the first Albanian dictionary, BUT they fought in the name of SOULI, not Greek nor Albanian because to them it was no difference between them..Only the real SOULI can understand. By blood and culture they are Albanian.
keesog 1 year ago
Marko Bocari ka familje ne Australi dhe ata thane se ne jena Shqiptare, pra M.Bocari ishte Shqiptare. Por ta leme kete pune ne e duam qe Cameria te kthehet te shteti i vet Shqiperia.
Shqiperia Etnike.
Barebossi 2 years ago
CapitainSM4
O qirio greke... ik qiriu sipas tradites greke
TheChameria 2 years ago
ρε παιδια γιατι τον βριζετε τι λαθος εχει κανει????
pritanisfc 2 years ago
katantia re gamwto, na milaei o evraios gia istoria. ekei exoume katanthsei oloi oi plhrwmenoi poustares gemhsan thn voulh kai thn thleorash. gamw ta paxh sou mamalak kwloevraie savra
YUNAN87 2 years ago
Ja pra historia Shqipetari vret Shqipetarin.
Nice video
gjarperi1972 2 years ago
PO nese lexon cfare thote interpretuesi duket qarte se ata ishin Shqiptare te veshur njesoj por me fe te ndryshme madje aty tregon se Marku ju foli luftetareve te tij ne Gjuhen Arvanite dhe ne gjuhen greke pjeses tjeter.Gjuha arvanite nuk eshte asgje me pak vetem nje dialekt i gjuhes shqipe te asaj kohe.
MrAlbaniSH 2 years ago
time fot the truth.marco bocari was albanian-arvanites.the foreign countries have documents to prove it and i have seen them
kelmend87 2 years ago 2
ty mendoj une je himarjot ,qe thua per shkollen se ne himare nuk kishte shkolle greqisht se himarjotet jane shqiptare.ndersa suliotet nuk ishin arvaniter ata ishin ,camer kristiane ortodokse,se gjuha e tyre anonte nga gjuha shqipe e dialektit cam....hajt pirdhu o tradhetar...
munihimara1 2 years ago
ty mos genje o mut,te gjithe greket ,kush ishte grk fliste dhe shkruante greqisht se fillorja ishte teresisht ne greqisht.dhe ne ate sistem te enver hoxhes nuk kishte shkolla te fshehta se veje ne burg,,,,,,,
munihimara1 2 years ago
A greek speaking ONLY Albanian is ALBANIAN !
ZebbiK 2 years ago
ZebbiK, my grant-grantparents speak albanian ,even my father speaks albanian and i am from suli.
i am telling you mate that i have their greek flags from wars in my livingroom .they feel GREEK!!!.
polarpriest 2 years ago
So you deny that suljots were albanian faras because they are now feeling greek?
Axeldevil 2 years ago
i am sure it were people from the areas of the modern albanian,and they came in the area of the modern greece approximately 1100 and after that.
polarpriest 2 years ago
@Axeldevil One nation include more than one race like Albanian Nation. Illyrians were ever (from ancient times ) present at Greece. Read mythology and you will understand why Greeks (which were many relative tribes NOT ONE tribe) thought Illyrians were very close to them. Have you any idea for how many years Greeks and Illyrians lived together and very close one to each other?
adavalas 1 year ago
@adavalas
Ok so tell me ...what other races include Albanian Nation?
Axeldevil 1 year ago
@Axeldevil Illyrians , Greeks , Slavs (mostly) and many others. Or are you a pure illyrian race?
adavalas 1 year ago
@adavalas
So you say that albanians are slavs mostly? loooooooooooooool
and in whats research do you base your claims ?
Greeks? youmean greek speakers not greeks.. there is a big difference
Axeldevil 1 year ago
@Axeldevil
5:01 ''25000 TURKALBANIANS AGAINST BOTSARIS''...ARE YOU STILL BELIEVE THAT BOTSARIS WAS ALBANIAN??
5:05 ''BOTSARIS FOUGHT AGAINST AGAS SKODRA FROM ALBANIA''...OUPS...AN ALBANIAN KILLING ALBANIANS??....THINK AGAIN IF BOTSARIS WAS GREEK-ARVANITIS WHO (ITS TRUTH) SPOKE ALBANIAN!
5:08 TELL US WHY DID BOTSARIS FOUGHT AGAINST ALBANIANS?
5:14 TELL US WHY DID YOU QUOTED THE WORD ''GREEK'' SULIOTES?...MAMALAKIS DIDNT QUOTED IN HIS WORDS....HE CLEARLY SAYS GREEK SULIOTES!
POTIS1 1 year ago
@POTIS1
1)Turkalbanian we find only in greek language ... it means Albanian Muslim
2)Bocari faught against Pasha of Shkodra but that doesnt mean that he was not albanian... its foolish to state that..
3)Bocari fought against ottoman forces which were like u fought against HUNDA smth like that...
4)Cause Greek means orthodox and Turk means Muslim. So Bocari was not a Hellene or greek.. he was just Albanian from Suli...
Axeldevil 1 year ago
@POTIS1 It's pretty clear that greeks are the mos ignorant nation in the Balkans. They learn the history of shovinism and "Megalis Idea" and still dream for the great Greece. Well you can just dream because it will never be reality.
The real name of the hero was MARKO BOCARI and not Botsaris, and he was Albanian by pure blood. But since greeks don't have their own heroes they try to "loan" albanian heroes. Shame on you!
Dustinthewindist 1 year ago
@Dustinthewindist
OH MAN...YOU TOUCH ME HARD.....LOL.
NOW LOOK THE ''ALBANIAN'' BOCARI....WHO KILLED HIM!
ENGLISH WIKI SAYS THIS BUT THE ALBANIAN WIKI ''DOING THE DUCK''.....
''Botsaris managed to take Mustai Pasha as a prisoner during the raid,[citation needed] but he was shot in the head and killed in battle by Llesh i Zi, an Albanian from Mirditë.''
NICE...AN ''ALBANIAN'' WHO FOUGHT AGAINST ALBANIANS AND KILLED BY ALBANIAN.....
REALLY NICE JOKE MAN!
HAHAHAAAAAA......
POTIS1 1 year ago
@POTIS1 Greeks are never shot by greeks? Let me refresh your memories with the greek civil war and it was not in the 19 century but after the Second World War in 1970's. So let the bullshit apart and accept the truth, if you can obviously, because only a real man or woman can accept the truth!
Dustinthewindist 1 year ago
@Dustinthewindist
greek civil war: 1944-1949. Speaking of ignorance...
I am sure you meant the colonel dictatorship when refering to the 70's. As you see it takes two to tango.
BillyJimmyLee 1 year ago
@BillyJimmyLee Oh i forgot that u mean with civil war, the horrible genocide that were made by greeks and the criminal ZERVA against albanians in Parga, Paramithi, Filat, Igumenice, Spatar. By the way speaking of ignorance again that is called GENOCIDE and not civil war, because greeks assaulted Albanian population, which means killing, torturing, deporting from their homes and land.
Dustinthewindist 1 year ago
@Dustinthewindist
58 people a genocide. Quite credible arguments. Italians and Albanian forces assaulted greek speaking populations too. Sure, Zervas was a criminal. But not more than Balli Kombetar, Ustasha, Cetnik etc. Same shit - different name. All were goat-stealers! Now fuck off and go whine about somewhere else. Our world doesn't need any of you on both sides. You heard me...fuck off now...
BillyJimmyLee 1 year ago
@BillyJimmyLee
JASENOVAC, AUSWITZ, PRISTINA, DACHAU! Does any of this strike a chord? MILLIONS! Dropping like flies. ANTE MALAKANTREA ANTEEEEEE! Wake up!
BillyJimmyLee 1 year ago
@BillyJimmyLee For your information there were more than 1500 people slaughtered, killed, deported. The great Collonel Zervas was a criminal, what a new theory from a greek. And what about two of his statues standing in Greece??Is this another error?Sure not, cause he acted in the name of greek politics and now you tell he was a criminal! What a pitiful nation!Try to illuminate your historical knowledge.Mediocre ignorant!
Dustinthewindist 1 year ago
@Dustinthewindist
He didn't act in the name of Greek politics, and stop using this sophisticated english it gets to my nerves. What he did for the Resistance is one thing, what he did to Chams is another. But he didn't have anyone's approval either. He also run for parliament but didn't get voted. He died a few years after. Do you now recognise the virtue of democracy?
BillyJimmyLee 1 year ago
@BillyJimmyLee
paparia ti na deis...sto poutso mou milao.
BillyJimmyLee 1 year ago
@BillyJimmyLee You should be thankful for my vocabulary because this way you improve your English, which to be fair is not better than a 3rd grade elementary student :P
Dustinthewindist 1 year ago
@Dustinthewindist
o_O kane kalo sou leei meta...
BillyJimmyLee 1 year ago
@BillyJimmyLee Nobody knows greek, so if you want to speak to yourself like you're in a state of limbo, you better get to learn a little bit more English..
Dustinthewindist 1 year ago
@Dustinthewindist
Nobody aspires to Great Greece. This was in the south of Italy long time ago in a galaxy far away. Androutsos, Samouil, Nikitaras, Gregory the Just, Ypsilantis, Skoufas, Ksanthos, Tsakalof, indigenous Cretans, Epirotes, Thessalians, Moraetae, Greek diplomats in great powers of that time (Russia etc), Rigas Fereos, Karaiskakis, KOLOKOTRONIS, Makrygiannis, self-motivated priests and scholars, foreign military officers, all united ultimately for the common cause.
BillyJimmyLee 1 year ago
@BillyJimmyLee What do you mean that the Great Greece was in south of Italy? Megalis Idea the shovinist programme from the greeks was just in the 19-th century, or better in or baout 1844 directly after greeks became independent with the help of ALBANIANS!!! Pls don't bother to citate anonymus names which nobody besides greeks has knowledge for.
Dustinthewindist 1 year ago
@Dustinthewindist
You have to thank Ismail Qemali because hadn't he not woke up, you might have been annihilated by everyone, Croats, Greeks, Italians, Serbs, tis poutanas to kagelo tha eixe ginei. The italians didn't have any chauvinism when they were trying to use you? DO WE ALWAYS HAVE TO BE THE CHAUVINISTS? And you have to thank the Greeks and Serbs, because now you might have been a soldier guarding the borders in Prespes. Either from Turks or Bulgars! Ainte malaka!
BillyJimmyLee 1 year ago
@BillyJimmyLee It's clear that you're as scandalous as the other greeks wherever the world. Wash your mouth bloody bastard when speaking for Ismail Qemali and other Albanian historical figures. We'll never be annihilated, as we have never been in millenniums since the Illyrian times. Yes we have suffered a lot from our bastard neighbours as greeks and serbs, but we have survived and you can't do anything about that, fucking greeks!
Dustinthewindist 1 year ago
@Dustinthewindist
I am just stating the truth. The fact that your people was suffering from lack of unity and the lack desire to express autonomy with the rest of the revolted Ottoman provinces. We all were ottoman empire once, remember?
BillyJimmyLee 1 year ago
@BillyJimmyLee
The pact of unity was confirmed in the League of Prizren ....
Axeldevil 1 year ago
@BillyJimmyLee Hahahha, that's really funny. My people suffered from lack of unity and were happy within Ottoman Empire?This is ridiculous and infantile. Albanains didn's get independent earlier than their neighbours, because they fighted in both camps:the ottomans and their neighbours which immediately after St. Stephan Treaty (1878), invaded albanian territories in north, east and south too.
Dustinthewindist 1 year ago
@Dustinthewindist
The majority of your population were just happy either way. More than half of the population is muslim. You amaze me when you accuse christians while you fail to recognize that islam apart from religious has political extensions too. This will become clear for you when the EU funds start to come in. Let's see who will get the most share. The orthodox, the catholic, or the muslims? Will Turkey then act as a proxy or not stretching the hand of 'peace'?
BillyJimmyLee 1 year ago
@BillyJimmyLee
The christianity can be separated from state. What about islam? Do they have the same views? I am curious.
BillyJimmyLee 1 year ago
@BillyJimmyLee Another thing, the religion of Albanians is ALBANISM neither islam, orthodoxy nor catholicism,and we know how to separate state from religion.Do greeks too?I' m afraid not, you identify your nation through orthodoxism contrary to Albanians who identify themselves through their antic culture and traditions.
Dustinthewindist 1 year ago
@Dustinthewindist
What is that? A polemic quote? Man, it's the 2010. In Theology classes at school we never got to learn about 'albanism'. I am just stating that ISLAM has political extensions ever since it's creation. It is a middle eastern philosophy which unites arabs. Christianity has been a tool too, but was never a doctrine for rule. You have to give quotas about the status of these religions. What are you going to present them in the field 'official religion', 'Albanism'?
BillyJimmyLee 1 year ago
@BillyJimmyLee The Albanian State has 3 official religions: muslimanism, orthodixism and catholicism. Even though the state as institutional body is laic , which means is not affected by religion. Albanian are free to practice and to believe which religion they want.When i referred to Albanism, i meant that Albanians are not united by their religion but by their traditions, which Albanism represents.
Dustinthewindist 1 year ago
@BillyJimmyLee How do you know about my people that were happy?Where do you base that?Oh I forgot that you have a PHD in greek history.I didn't accuse neither christians or muslims or any other religion, for sure you should learn English, cause you seem really confused..
Dustinthewindist 1 year ago
@Dustinthewindist
I am sorry I was just reffering to the general opinion on religions in your country, It wasn't personal.
BillyJimmyLee 1 year ago
@BillyJimmyLee
When Edith Durham came to albanian territories she was stunned that Albanians were the only people to identify themselves as simply albanians, not christians nor muslims. SHe travelled across Balkans, everywhere she met people identifying themselves as orthodox, catholics and moslems (Bosnia), in Albanian territories they were simply Albanians.
ImperatoreAlbanicas 11 months ago 2
@Dustinthewindist
I don't say that. More than 70% of Ottoman Europe's military administrators were either Albanian or Bosnian. There is no record of battles that Albanians took part in either the Balcan Wars or before as a united entity in the region. The christian albanians sided either with Greeks or with other christian populations. Being christian at that time was HELL. Religion played a great role back then. Not anymore, but THEN.
BillyJimmyLee 1 year ago
@BillyJimmyLee Record of Albanian battles? Hahah, how do you even think that there aren't.I'm just giving you a few: From 1727 to 1786 the Bushati nobele family of Shkodra has fighted against the ottomans and tried to take autonomy of all the northern and southern Albania. Same with Ali Pashe Tepelena who created a de facto autonomy and went against Sultan power until his death at 1822. Then after 1878 there were the battles of Albanian league of Prizren against the ottomans and serbs til 1890
Dustinthewindist 1 year ago
@BillyJimmyLee What do you refer with Balkan wars?The wars that serbians and greeks made against Albanians with the pretex of fighting the turks after 1878?In that occasion they invaded Albanian territories in north, east and south, trying to prove that Albanians didn't even exist.That's the true history man, but I'm not sure if you'll ever give up your version and accept the truth.
Dustinthewindist 1 year ago
@Dustinthewindist
I am sorry, but I cannot continue like this. Please consult at least wikipedia - -I know, not the most reliable source - to know what I am refering to. There are others in the equation apart from Greeks and Serbs,
BillyJimmyLee 1 year ago
@POTIS1 Try to see the first one : He said : Marko started to study French and had wrote the first Albanian-Greek dictionary . What is this ?????
In ottoman empire albania was a turkish colony like greece was , they was different Pasha(prince that serves to Ottoman Empire) that had they troops(turks and albanians traitors) and fought with order of Ottoman Empire. Greek too had some divisions. Sulliot wasnt greek , they was albanians , Marko too was , the journalist too said this ...
4Absolut 1 year ago
@4Absolut
YOURE POLITE (RARE PRIVILLEGE FOR ALBANIAN) SO ILL ANSWER YOU POLITE.
LISTEN MY FRIEND MY OPPINION.
MARCO WAS ARVANITIS THAT MEANS GREEK WHO SPEAK ALBANIAN.
DONT FORGET THAT ALBANIANS GHEGS THEY WROTE WITH THE GREEK ALPHABET.
ALBANIAN LANGUAGE IS EASY LANGUAGE AND NOT COMPLICATED AS THE GREEK ONE, SO THE GREEKS NEAR ALBANIANS LEARN ALBANIAN.
ORTHODOX ALBANIANS AND GREEKS AT OTTOMAN YEARS WAS BROTHERS, BUT TODAY THE ARENT CAUSE ALBANIANS ARE 80% MUSLIMS AND THEY HATE GREEKS.
POTIS1 1 year ago
@POTIS1 Rare privillege for albanians??? We albanians are very very patient but when we lose it its difficult to reconquest it again. Happened usually with greeks like you that pretend things without referencers ?? I must believe you , or your journalist . I dont think that your more preparete that this journalist . The journalist here is greek man and yuo too must believe what he is saying . Itts not the first time that greeks said : Arvanits is greek , Scanderbeg is greek .. Come on??????
4Absolut 1 year ago
@4Absolut
AS I TOLD YOU, MONSIEUR MAMALAKIS IS NOT JOURNALIST.
HE IS CHEF....YOU KNOW....COOK CHICKENS BEEF ETC....
NOW WHY DID YOU COMPLAIN WHEN GREEKS SAID THAT ARVANITES ARE GREEKS OR KASTRIOTIS HAD GREEK BLOOD?
I HAVENT SEE ANYONE ALBANIAN COMPLAIN WHEN ALBANIANS SAID THAT ALEXANDER THE GREAT OR PYRROS OF EPIROS OR ACHILLEAS OR OLYMPIAS WAS ALBANIANS.
YOU BETTER SEE THE COIN FROM BOTH SIDES....
POTIS1 1 year ago
@POTIS1
So u indirectly say that u have some kind of origin with Ancient Epirots or Macedonians? what is this a Joke? looooooool
Axeldevil 1 year ago
@Axeldevil
Indirectly?
DIRECTLY IM DESCENDANT OF MACEDONIANS AND EPIROTANS.
EITHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT!
EPIROS AND MACEDONIA ARE GREEK WORDS AND ONLY GREEKS CAN SPECIFY THEM.
THE REST PEOPLE like you DONT EVEN KNOW the meaning of those words.
POTIS1 1 year ago
@4Absolut
ARVANITES FOUGHT FOR THE LIBERTY OF GREECE AND NOT ALBANIA CAUSE THEY WAS GREEKS.
ASK TODAY ARVANITES AND THEY GONNA TELL YOU THE SAME THING.
POTIS1 1 year ago
@4Absolut
AT 5:14 THE DOCUMENTARY SAYS THAT SULIOTES ARE GREEKS....
AND AT LAST...THE BEST ONE....
POTIS1 1 year ago
@POTIS1
do you want me to bring English -French- German ... references from Suli...
They all call them Albanians...
you sould read Lord Byron (Childs Harold)...
Axeldevil 1 year ago
@Axeldevil
''The Souliotes established an autonomous confederacy dominating a large number of neighbouring villages in the remote mountainous areas of Epirus, In Ottoman ruled Epirus, national identity didn't play any role to the social classification of the local society, while religion was the key factor of classification of the local communities. According to this, the Muslim communities in Epirus were classified as Turks, while the Orthodox, like the Souliotes, were classified as Greeks.
POTIS1 1 year ago
@Axeldevil
Souli ( Albanian: Suli Greek: Σούλι) is a community originally settled by refugees who were hunted by the Ottomans in Paramythia, Thesprotia, Greece. Population 748 (2001). The seat of the community is in Samonida. In the 18th and 19th century, the citizens of Souli rebelled against the Ottoman occupation. Souli is also a male name.'' FROM REFERENCE ON LINE....
POTIS1 1 year ago
@Axeldevil
AN ENGLISHMAN KNOWS BETTER ABOUT ARVANITES OR A GREEK?....
POTIS1 1 year ago
@POTIS1
Yes he knows ... since Suliots were no greeks
Axeldevil 1 year ago
@Axeldevil
YOU KNOW BETTER ABOUT THE LIFE IN SCOTLAND THAN AN ENGLISHMAN?
LORD BYRON OR THE GREEKS KNOWS BETTER THE LIFE IN GREECE?.....
POTIS1 1 year ago
@POTIS1
If I go to Scotland I will write that they were Scots and not that they were English..
Axeldevil 1 year ago
@4Absolut
FINALLY ....THE ''JOURNALIST'' (NARRATOR) YOU MENTIONED IS THE BEST......COOKER IN GREECE!
HE IS 'CHEF'!!!
HOPE YOU UNDERSTAND WHY WE HAVE SOME MISTAKES HERE....
POTIS1 1 year ago
@POTIS1 Come on , if the journalist is an asshole why you dont look or search about this dictionary that Bocari published : Search for the first Albanian - Greek dictionary .Ok?? I havent time to waste here bla bla bla . It is not cited anyone that Souliotes are greek , and hadnt cited anyone with the name SULIOT-GREEKS ?!!!
4Absolut 1 year ago
@Axeldevil
Hey pal, let's simply stop the arguments over homogenous people of the Balkans. It simply doesn't have any effect, anywhere. From both sides there are some valid arguments but what is donw is done. Probably the timing was tough, I don't know and to be honest it doesn't matter anymore.
BillyJimmyLee 1 year ago
yes ,i beleve you ,you said the truth,you grantparents speaks albania ,and you speak grek .
munihimara1 2 years ago
my grantparents speak albanian and greece very good.
polarpriest 2 years ago
thankyou,a now thate ,the souli before 1800 spoke only albania .the pope of souli because thay are ortodoks have writing the histori of souli on the greek languige....thanks again....
munihimara1 2 years ago
haha,, gooD that he spoke albanian as a child. that says enough
agon1984 2 years ago 2
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i arvanites ine dhiaferotiko apo ton suliotes,ja ti millusane poli sosto allvaniko,emis pu kserume allvanika ta katallavenume afto.akuse afto pu millai ti lei ja ton marko bocari otan itane ston napolon tin galia.
muniminoritar 2 years ago
Perimeno na to stirikseis to "oi ellines fovontousan na milane ellinika" ............
Axeldevil 2 years ago
Krifo Sxolio ? ahahahahaa
kai paramithia tis xalimas.....
Axeldevil 2 years ago
loipon auto oti oi
ellines fovontousan na milane ellinika.... kai oti oploi ellines alvanopiithikan tha to theorisw anistorikotita .... kai tha sou svisw to sxolio ... ektos ean fereis kapio quote apo istoriko ...........
Axeldevil 2 years ago
OMG telika eisai o pio oniropolis ilithios stin gi, re skatokefale oi othomanes minousane Albanika? hahahhahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahah
eisai apextos, re MALAKA mono sou to les tin malakia, akou edw tin malakia pou les re vlaka, me ta legoma na sou oi othomanes vazanai tous Albanian anamesa tous Ellhnes gia na tous roufianepsoun auto omos simenh oti ----------sinexia
GAMAOTOUSELLINES 2 years ago
oti i Albanian eprepe na milane Ellhnika RE ILITHIE PLASMA,
"re paliomalaka kai ego den iksera ellinika . exw 2o ksadelfia ou den milane ellinika"
pali tin eipes tin malakia sou! eisai apextos leme! esu genithikes kai ezises Ellada kai den ikseres Ellhnika? ta ksadelfia genithikan Ellada kai megalosan Ellada kai den kseroune Ellhnika? hahahhahahahahahahhaa sou eipa eisai apextos malakas
GAMAOTOUSELLINES 2 years ago
na pis pali kala pou htan oi Albanian kai sas eleuterosas apo tous Turkus kompleksike
GAMAOTOUSELLINES 2 years ago
SULI (Documentary of ET3) *Part 1* kitakse kai ta tria auta. kai edw sto Marko Bocaru Documentary giati leei oti mathenh ta Ellhnika ? kai exane to proto metafrasti AlbanoElhhniko ? pios einai skatofatsa twra ? apo tin Episimh Kratikh TV lmao
GAMAOTOUSELLINES 2 years ago
mou aresh pou xamaronai mou tous ALBANIAN
GAMAOTOUSELLINES 2 years ago
re skatokefalo i Ellhnikh gratikh tileorasi sto leei oti EINAI ALBANIAN. oops einai kai to ET3 tis thesalonikhs ti hronia kai auto, pigenai na autoktonisis twra
GAMAOTOUSELLINES 2 years ago
hey REALbitchGR dont talk like that nobody is insultin u
albanian are not inventin anything,u can tell clearly that arvanites spoke albanian
i mean there must be a reason why they spoke albanian,ive seen in internet still arvanites sings in albanian
tejkqyre 2 years ago
marko ka qene komandant i ali pashes
tejkqyre 2 years ago
Kujdes Ju lutem me fjalorin , mos bini ne debate rrugesh...
mos ekzagjeroni se komente te tilla do te shuhen
FLM
"Prosoxi me to leksilogio , min erxeste se antiparatheseis tou dromou"
"min to parakanete .. ta sxolia autou tou xaraktira tha svinonte"
Axeldevil 2 years ago
I nderuar Axel jo eshte vetem nje parentez e detyruar " restua duhet kthyer me te njejten monedhe" Ne kemi per detyre secili me mundesit e tij sa do te vogla, te mbrojme kulturen , historine ,kombin dhe nuk mund te pranojme nje kollon te peste brenda kufijve tashme te pergjysmuar nga shovinizmi klerikal grek.
xhakshqiptari 2 years ago
mire po ska nevoje ti shajme me llafe te pista , sepse komentet e grekeve me llafe te pista hiqen ne moment.... komentin tend e lashe per pergjigjjen e sharjes se CaptainSM4...........
Axeldevil 2 years ago
ine gia na klapsis alvani me alvanous me idia efima idia kultura idia foustanela skotothikane me taksi tous gia tin kolo thriskia.
ApolloniaUltras 2 years ago
jo jo ne shqiptaret nuk e kemi per fe por e kemi per historine e vertete se historia eshte e jona dhe suli ka folur shqip pavarsisht se cfare besimi fetar kishte.greket e thone qe jane ortodokse dhe jane greker,e kupton zoteri diferencen.
muniminoritar 2 years ago
Nuk e kam te qarte mendimin tend.kemi te nejtin mendim por ne forma te ndryshme. pershendetje
xhakshqiptari 2 years ago
nuk ma do mendja qe ishte lufte fetare ,por ishte me teper per mendimin tim,lufte interesash dhe lufte per hunde[komande],por greket e kane shfrytezuar per ta paraqitur lufte ndermjet myslimanizmitdhe krishterimit.suliotet deshen te benin ligjin ne rrethet e janines e perreth ku komandonte ali pasha i cili kerkonte te bashkonte te gjithe kundra sulltanit,sa ju pre koka.
muniminoritar 2 years ago
Qarte, por mendoj se nuk mund te behet krahasim midis nje indvidi dhe nje populli .Ali pasha luftoi 30 vjet suljotet per breza te tere.
xhakshqiptari 2 years ago
ali pasha donte te behej sulltan dhe i vrau te gjithe kauret qe nuk i nenshtroheshin.
ali pasha ishte nje bythqir qe e dridhte sipas interesit, me nje fjlale shqiptar hesapi.....
CaptainSM4 2 years ago
ej kapterr,i vetmi gabim i ali pashes ishte qe hoqi dore nga nenshtrimi qe o tu bente juve himarjoteve,gabimi me i madh i tij.te paret tuaj qendruan per shume vite shpellave dhe grate e femijt iken ne lefkadhe e gjetke dhe kur u kthien andej erdhen perseri ne himare dhe flisnin greqisht ,qe atehere u fol greqishtja ne himare dhe ndryshoi politika e himarjoteve se deri atehere ishin shqiptare dhe me vone e mbajten vehten disa himarjote greker.
muniminoritar 2 years ago
si himarjot qe jeni psefto-burra gjuhen e mesuat si te thashe se nje pjese shoqeruan grate dhe femijet ne lefkadhe e gjetke dhe kur u kthyen e kishin mesuar greqishten se ndenjen shume kohe kur i shtrengoi aliu.por ju himarjoter jeni lidheni pas vrakazonit te grave.....hahahahahahahahahahaha....tani cfare do thuash dhe pse bere blok.
muniminoritar 2 years ago
Ne jemi SHQIPTAR, bijte e shqipes ndersa ca himarjote ( jo te gjithe)si ty duan te quhen helene ose bijte e helenes por duhet ta dish Helena eshte kurva e pare e historise, qe tradhetoj burrin e saj( merhum ) grek me nje trojan.Ta gezoni e emrine ri BIJTE E KURVES. P.S Une besoj ne ate qe skruan nje himariot i madh PETRO MARKO dhe jo qurrash si ju te shitur tek greku per 5 dhramhe.RROFTE HIMARA SHQIPTARE!!!!!!!!!!!
xhakshqiptari 2 years ago
pffffttt KaterrSuma, eshte ne dokumenta qe Aliu sado qe ishte kasap jo vetem me kaurret por me te gjithe, tregon qe ai vetem u dergoi Himarjoteve nje deklarate, nqs ata donin te ktheheshin ne myslyamn qe mos te paguanin taksat, dhe ata nuk pranuan, dhe nuk i preku per kete, keshtu mos pirdh kot, sado qe je plak zoterote.
topallia 2 years ago 4
topallia, Your Kurveleshi was buned, raped and completely destroyed by Ali Pasha and his egypto-albanian troops.........
CaptainSM4 2 years ago
Ohhhh such as life and history, like this did not happened from ancient times. Go cry at the corner now.
topallia 2 years ago 2
I don't care they were your people that ali pasha fucked and killed not mine.............
CaptainSM4 2 years ago
Yes they were not yours, cause at the time your people were still in Anatolia being fucked by turks, or are you the christian turks!!! ;)
topallia 2 years ago
topallia talking stupid again....ali pasha fucked you labs, men and women alike, and today you call him father, I understand that.........
CaptainSM4 2 years ago
TurkishOrthodox KaterrSuma, who is that countru that never had dictators!
I mean look at you, you are the product of orthodox turks, and nothing more got it, ohh yeah and they still do, I send you the video of the Greek Turkish love didn't I? ;)
Ali Pasha was a LAB the same as the Himarjots are.
Now go hang yourself.
topallia 2 years ago 2
Poor topallia talking stupid again.......
CaptainSM4 2 years ago
What's the matter no more lies to spread..;)
topallia 2 years ago 3
Ali Pasha was a turko-grek, tosk mother and turkish father. He used turko-labs as merceneries like everyone else has.........
CaptainSM4 2 years ago
ohhhh really how do you know, mos u mbajte gje qiririn, apo i mbajti Aliu qiririn sateme...hahhahaahha
And you are the turko-orthodox, is ok, why you feel ashamed of your gypsy background. I mean just look at the guy who is telling the history of the real people he is a fat 5 foot just like you are....:/
topallia 2 years ago 5
Aliu ju qiu faren ju labeve te kurveleshit prandaj dhe i thoni BABA Aliu..........
CaptainSM4 2 years ago
C'ke qe mohon babane tend o derman, se ai e kishte Vasiliqine fhe Fronin ne Oborin e tij te Harremit, ishte edhe stergjyshja jote atje..;)
Kishte Aliu ne Janine
Fronin dhe Vasiliqine
hajde Kapteri mos u tremb, se ke gjakun e Aliut ne venat e tua, se ndryshe do ishte evgjit komplet o i ziu ti...hahhahahha
topallia 2 years ago
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ILIRIANKING 9 months ago
Ky rrumbullaku fjet me shume pasion, por gjate gjithe komentit ai vete pranon qe suljotet flisnin vetem shqip.Pastaj ska shume rendesi nga vinin nga jugu o .nga veriu . suljotet jane ata qe spranuan te lene trojet dhe te nderrojne fene dhe armiku per ta ishte turqia.dhe jo shqiptaret, por kisha greke beri gjithçka qe te bind suljotet qe çdo shqiptar myslyman eshte turk. sot ne duhet te mbrojme çdo faqe te historise tone nga keta pseudo historian shovinist RROFTE SHQIPERIA !
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xhakshqiptari 2 years ago
Greeks vs tourkoalban
corfu75 3 years ago
Arvanite & Greeks against Turks
21parat 3 years ago
what greeks ore?
bylysi 3 years ago
harron ky qe marko bocari eshte shqiptar..greket perpiqen qe te tere ti bejen greke,,prite ndonje dite edhe Isa boletinin do e nxjerrin grek
luckygeli 3 years ago
edhe i grek eshte, hahahahhahahahahaahahahaa se kan then akoma se nuk e njofin edhe Vojo Kushi Grek eshte se eshte nga Shkodra dhe Shkodra eshte vojropiri HAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA FUCK MOTHERFUCKER GREEK
GAMAOTOUSELLINES 2 years ago
suljotet jane puro shqipetar dhe jo dosido por shqiptar e bir shqiptari. Atehere skishte koncept kufinjsh dhe shikoheshe me shume interesi personal se simagjinohej ne ate kohe nje renie e perandorise otomane.
ealanaj 3 years ago
O shoku , suljotet nuk ndiheshin grek , por suljot... lere ca prrallisin keta...
Ishte lufta per sundim... dhe shume pashallare e bejler shqiptar te aso kohe punonin per perandorine Ottomane...
Axeldevil 3 years ago
Po të dojshin myslimont të vrasën këta kurr nuk do të ishte zorr porë nuk e bën këtë kurr se i kishin vllezër.
Selacii 3 years ago
Kjo mund të jetë dy mesazhe: një mund të jetë Propagand e Grekut që neve të shqipëris të merrim inat në Suliotë Shqipëtar dhe mos ti konsiderojm si shqipëtar por grek. Ose e dyta që mund të jet se kështu ka qen e vërteta se këta Tradhëtar të kombit Suliot shqipëtar që e thrasin vetën grek nuk mund ta lëjn FEN anash dhe të luftojn për kombin se ishin pakicë në mesin e myslimanëve.
Selacii 3 years ago