Electrodynamic Space Thruster - Innovative Propulsion

[rokrfog]

why aren't we funding this?

[killerbee04x]

well the only way to go is with a scram Jet in space. you first have to get to a speed then what ever energy you pick up would be use to keep you going. Getting going is part is up in the air. it may take you a year to get to a speed to really use any energy you pick up or longer. but when going 20 light years you might say 30yrs isn't bad. besides its the kids. it always is.

[killerbee04x]

@killerbee04x Just hope you get suck with a hot bitch. but in time i guess anything looks good. maybe not though.

[PrettyPiper13]

Worth the Effort :)

[dinamitemaster]

What.

[peopledick]

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[cw8jwh]

What science is this based on? At least Alcubierre's Metric makes plausible sense.

[darian1968]

It does make sense. But there is a few more things missing SHields lol But okay warp speed then in that ships case poof 8kms away.... But aside that it works fine creating a bubble around the ship pushing it through space.

[theskydartteam]

Basically this is the energy density the propulsion system antenna has to create. If for example the antenna is a dish 1 m^2, than 3 TW of RF power have to be pumped into it! Hence the use of lasers instead of RF.

[theskydartteam]

Lets assume 1 kg of mass (m) accelerating with 10 m/s^2 (a). Force needed is F=ma= 1*10=10N.

This force or thrust is created by the radiation pressure p (N/m^2) acting upon an area A (m^2), or F=p*A.

Lets assume that A=1 m^2.

Radiation pressure exerted upon the area A to create the force F is p= F/A = 10/1 = 10 N/m^2

According to the radiation pressure definition above average energy density u=c*p = 3*10^8 (m/s) * 10(N/m^2) = 3*10^9 (W/m^2)

[theskydartteam]

The amount of momentum absorbed per unit time, per unit cross-sectional area, is the amount of momentum contained in a volume of length c and unit cross-sectional area: i.e., c times the momentum density g. An absorbed momentum per unit time, per unit area, is equivalent to a pressure. In other words, the radiation exerts a pressure c g on the body. Therefore, the pressure exerted by collimated electromagnetic radiation is equal to its average energy density.

[theskydartteam]

50W/kg - No way.

The idea boils down to the notion of Electromagnetic Momentum. Electromagnetic radiation possesses momentum then it must exert a force on bodies which absorb (or emit) radiation.

[thekaxmax]

Speculative, not innovative. There are several qualifiers in this that show it is not even a theory, it's a proposition on its way to being a hypothesis. Go away and do more work.

[mferreirajr]

@thekaxmax

more work: "Phase-shift Plasma Turbine" and "Relativistic Phase Displacement Space Drive",

take a look at my youtube channel.

[thekaxmax]

@mferreirajr : I want to see some power calculations and function descriptions. What you have so far is, "Look at my cool ideas!" and called them tech. Nope, not until you have a description and a working model.

[TheReasonWhyGuy]

@mferreirajr I'm curious, if any of these proposed methods of propulsion could have a cheap model to demonstrate them, with it's output measurable, and it's design published for peer review?

I would love to see any proof of your ideas :)

[1crazyfocker]

OMG it is not "Innovative"...why do so many YT'ers keep useing words like "innovative, revolutionary, epic" hell even "NEW" . this is an idea a theory, with no proof of concept, and as such there is no way it can be innovative. try looking up what those words mean. not this video but tons talk about new tech, yet most are over 100 yr old, or revolutionary, come on Tesla was revolutionary, his tech changed the world. keep thinking of new ideas, but be realistic when discribing them.

[ManeroXR]

I`m not sayng that your totaly insane. But, I have some questions:

1-Power comsumption. Matter-antimatter reactor? Zero-point Converters? Alcohol combustion motor? Hamsters?

2- Speed. Does it goes at the speed of light or beyond the C? The electro-magnetic effects would`t KILL humans? Does the acceleration blows you up?

3- Does it glows?

[mferreirajr]

@ManeroXR

1 - Aneutronic fusion reactor fueled with helium-3 or boron-11

2 - It can virtually produce FTL forces, but the spaceship is to go very efficiently at subluminal speeds.

3 - glowing is only for illustrating the working.

Note: for newer concepts, take a look at my youtube channel for "Phase-shift Plasma Turbine" and "Relativistic Phase Displacement Space Drive" watch?v=GSkxPghXTCg

[PowerOfTheMirror]

The concept is interesting. Just propellant less propulsion would be enough.

You mentioned many improvements but I think they are irrelevant until you get a basic prototype. Can you make a simple prototype to simply demonstrate a tiny thrust force by using electromagnets in the pattern you propose?

[mferreirajr]

@PowerOfTheMirror

Things are not so easy. I'm still dealing with investors to get funding to build basic prototypes for a first proof-of-concept.

[PowerOfTheMirror]

@mferreirajr Yes but can you make a simple prototype with only a few hundred turns of wire around some metal rod's configured as you described and show that thrust is possible when the arrays frequency is f>c/l ?

If not then why not? Has anyone else demonstrated this effect ? Im mostly interested in the physical effect.

You can have one magnet pull on another but can you really pull on just the field so as to get thrust? Can you give me some reference material to read to back up the your claim?

[mferreirajr]

With few thousand of dollars, it is possible to acquire RF oscillator, amplifiers, and phase-shifters to build a simple prototype. Surrounding air can be ionized with a frequency of 13.56MHz, and due to phase variation, the device can act similarly to a linear AC motor, producing some thrust force. However, for a complete validation, testing should be made in a vacuum environment. I've contacted space agencies, but unfortunately, they have demonstrated no ...

[mferreirajr]

@mferreirajr

... no interest in performing tests in their vacuum facilities, but I'm still trying to convince them to, because I believe they'll have more benefits from this than I.

[PowerOfTheMirror]

@mferreirajr Ok I watched your other vids but now Im more skeptical of your claims. In one vid you said

"Net thrust force is expected due to action-reaction with the interstellar medium(cosmic dust/gases, universe's magnetic/electric fields), also by perturbing universe electrostatic equilibrium."

you are proposing to accelerate space particles thereby producing force. this I agree with. however you also propose to pull on ambient magnetic fields, this I doubt can you reference this effect ?

[mferreirajr]

@PowerOfTheMirror

The moving magnetic fields, from the phased array, can interact with other magnetic fields.

You can search for:

"Primordial Magnetic Field May Permeate the Universe"

[PowerOfTheMirror]

@mferreirajr I think that magnetic fields add as vectors. I am not aware of anything to suggest that this vector addition creates a force. Therefore adding a field generated by the ship with a universal field shouldn't generate any force regardless of the ship fields frequency. However if you have evidence to the contrary then I would love to read it.

[PowerOfTheMirror]

@mferreirajr also since propelentless operation in a vacuum is what were interested in, the pulling on a field effect is the really interesting part(if its really possible). in another video you said "Gravity and acceleration are equivlenets and both warp space time. Thus, it is likely that a FTL moving force can warp spacetime."

Im not sure about this, can you provide a reference again? What if a laser beam collides with a object and is absorbed, does that create a gravity well?

[mferreirajr]

@PowerOfTheMirror

"nothing can be faster than light", (f ≥ c/L) → (L ≥ λ) causes a momentary violation that, hypothetically, is canceled by folding spacetime, it is just a hypothesis.

You can search for:

"Laser Tractor Beam"

[Helge129]

@mferreirajr Stuff can move faster than C actually. The Casimir effect for instance allows photons to reach up to 1.5 times C I think.

[PowerOfTheMirror]

@mferreirajr This hypothesis is the most interesting aspect of what you are proposing since it claims a propellant-less means of generating thrust. If you can not find a firm theoretical basis for this claim then you should try a simple experiment. Otherwise it will be difficult for agencies like NASA to take you seriously.

Also, there are many electric devices on the planet which create periodic magnetic pulses out of sync with each other but they dont seem to be warping spacetime.

[mferreirajr]

@PowerOfTheMirror

I think these periodic magnetic pulses that you are talking about are aleatory. They should be arranged/directed for proper phase, frequency, and spacing, to have some chance of warping spacetime. Anyway, this is just a hypothesis.

[mferreirajr]

Note: take a look at "Phase-shift Plasma Turbine" and "Relativistic Phase Displacement Space Drive" watch?v=GSkxPghXTCg

[SKR1967]

Great to see people having a go. Best of luck there mate.

Just my 2 cents worth, finding a way to access worm holes or the likes may be a more effective and quicker way to get around. The answers are more than likely found in some monolithic structure on earth!

Cheers

[xTonyxMaddenx]

You have to admit this is not a warp drive mate. General Relativity applies and I am uncertain about the science behind this but okay presentation.

[mferreirajr]

@gogerychwyrndrobwll

This one is better: "Phase Displacement Space Drive"

[superbadninja1]

We don't know all about speed rules in the universe. I believe FTL travel is something to be further tried. Before that, I think sub-light speeds will be a good step for making affordable round trips in our solar system.

[superbadninja1]

what is this?

[MTd2]

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[bluesmoke21]

You have only one problem with this... The mass of the ship! You will not be able to breack the speed of light due to infinite mass of the ship. Keep in mind that more power you input, at that speed, it will not be converted to speed, but to mass. You have to find something to counter those forces... But well sub-light speeds are good enough to conquer our solar system.

[mferreirajr]

@bluesmoke21

I agree with you. We don't know all about speed rules in the universe. I believe FTL travel is something to be further tried. Before that, I think sub-light speeds will be a good step for making affordable round trips in our solar system.

[PhilBurtJPants]

is this really possible? im just a dum 7th grader :D

[mferreirajr]

@PhilBurtJPants

This is really technically possible. It will require a first proof-of-concept of few millions instead of billion dollars.

[mferreirajr]

@theufohunter123

Space-apart phase-shifted oscillations can be faster than light, which is mathematically verifiable (f ≥ c/L).

In fact, the only way of seeing whether it will be FTL or not, is by testing it in deep space.

[flamesholder]

What is the difference between this and photon propulsion? We all know that photons have momentum and we use this fact for example to build optical tweezers, so we can scale up these tweezers and build a photon rocket - using photons as reaction mass. Solar sails are similar in nature, they also use radiation pressure that is the effect of the fact that photons have momentum.

[mferreirajr]

@flamesholder

The main difference is that it is not based on photon emissions; it is based primarily on space-apart phase-shifted electrodynamic forces acting/reacting directly on the interstellar medium, the outgoing EM waves may be considered secondary.

See this video: Z8Hwqg9_oA8

[MarkScheppy]

Is this the star ship enterprise design? Do you have a captain yet, has this design been approved by the Federation and does it follow by Federation guidelines.

[RharNeithan]

You're trying hard to get attention with your vids, but what's the purpose? I don't pretend to be able to understand if this has a chance of working or not, but, shouldn't you focus on getting a peer assist on this?

It seems that if you want to get this project to succeed, you will only be able to do that by having input from colleagues, and in the end - hopefully - build a prototype.

BTW: anything on the order of magnitude this funding is to be for a basic prototype? $ xxx.xxx or more ?

[mferreirajr]

@RharNeithan

Funding for basic prototypes would be thruster $100k and reactor $5M.

In the absence of financial resources, without adequate equipments and vacuum facilities, while we are in raise fund mode, we are limited only to research and theoretical work.

[mferreirajr]

Photon, particle/wave duality, there is no a definitive or conclusive explanation, there are only dogmatic assertions imposed by the widely accepted theories. It is a complex topic, in my opinion, photon particle is only an "effect" and electric fields/waves is the "cause".

EM wave propagation has low dependence on particular magnetic fields of planets and the proposed phase-shifted thruster too.

I'm still raising funds, I hope in few months to build a liftoff proof.

[mferreirajr]

Theoretically, in the outer space, electric fields are not zero, only the resulting electric fields are zero interconnecting all matter in the universe. Electromagnetic(EM) waves propagate by transversely disturbing these resulting electric fields, and a spacecraft producing transverse phase-shifted oscillations, as it were an ultra faster linear AC motor, can travel in the outer space similarly to an EM wave does.

[darnellclayton]

Unless a prototype can be demonstrated (at least on a small scale), I'm going to be highly skeptical of this thruster. Could this work? I wish. But there needs to be some testing (however small) that proves that this thruster could be built at full scale production.

[mferreirajr]

@darnellclayton From my current researches and inferences, this concept presents itself very promising, it is based on a linear AC motor running much faster (f≥c/L). For a liftoff, it is needed at least 50W/kg, in the past, my personal budget was only for precarious few watts to slide it horizontally.

Next stage is to raise funding for a liftoff using powerful phase-shifted oscillators/amplifiers, several kilowatts.

[DjZielony]

@mferreirajr

It wouldn't need to lift off, we could launch it with classic chemical rockets, and then it could propagate from orbit wherever it wants just with little propulsion and being electromagnetic wave propulsion (If I understood correctly) it could fly entirely on solar power, great for interplanetary isn't it?

[mferreirajr]

@DjZielony

Solar arrays can produce 300W/kg near the Earth.

This propulsion concept needs at least 50W/kg to reach acceleration of 1g (10m/s²), then, there is extra 250W/Kg left for payload and for wasting with EM losses.

Hence, a travel to Moon and Mars using solar energy could be plainly achievable in less than one week.

[mferreirajr]

@DjZielony

To Jupiter and beyond, I think solar energy density will limit accelerations and consequently the final velocities, then we will need aneutronic fusion energy instead of our natural fusion reactor, the Sun.

Perhaps it doesn't need auxiliary chemical rockets to lift off.