Paul Godfrey - Two Covenants - Explaining Law and Grace

[materialclassified]

I invite you to read questioningpaul(dot)com

Narrow is the way! Christians think they have it. Judaism thinks they have it. Muslims think they have it. What if Yahuwah hates all religion?

[materialclassified]

Paul was blinded by his epiphany on the road for three days.

Ask yourself, when did Yahushua blind someone. NEVER!

He only healed the sick. Why did all three of Pauls accounts of this epiphany change

every time he retold his story?

[jumanous]

@materialclassified show me where it changed.

[materialclassified]

@jumanous

Acts 9:7 And the men which journeyed with him stood speechless, HEARING A VOICE, but seeing no man.

Acts 22:9 And they that were with me saw indeed the light, and were afraid; but they HEARD NOT THE VOICE of him that spake to me.

This next verse, Paul goes on to say, the 2 witnesses now saw it and heard.

Acts 26:13 At midday, O king, I saw in the way a light from heaven, above the brightness of the sun, shining round about me and them which journeyed with me.

[jumanous]

@materialclassified They heard a voice, but did they understand? Clearly no. So there is no inconsistency in that part. Also, nowhere does it state that they saw a person, however it does state they saw a light. So they did see and hear, however they didn't understand and didn't see people. Seems pretty clear to me. Sounds to me like you grasping at straws as atheists do when they try to find contradictions in the first meetings of the resurrected Christ.

[materialclassified]

@jumanous And the names of these two that supposedly were with this Paul? Or better yet, howcome you are not muslim? Didn't Muhammed also receive a message from a light in a cave or maybe Joseph Smith even.

So let's all bow down at the alter of a man that could not kill followers of, "The Way" fast enough physically, so he killed em spiritually. I'm sick of how christians build their religion off a guys words that never saw the Messiah. And rebuked the Messiahs number one (Peter) to his face.

[jumanous]

@materialclassified Isa 8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.

all of Paul's doctrine can be found in the rest of the bible very clearly. At the end of the day who am I to judge Paul. Even without Paul's letters, nothing of my doctrine would change, it would just take longer to figure it out. Without Paul's work, there would have been no Pentecost, and the church wouldn't have made it off the ground.

[materialclassified]

@jumanous Well some man had to judge Paul so to canonize his letters into scripture, right? Are these men above you or I? I question everything. You said without Paul, no Pentecost..paraphasing.

"Accurately count (saphar - reckon, record, relate, rehearse, and regale) from the day after the Shabat, from the day you came forth and bore the sheaf of grain as an ascending wave offering, a total of seven(sheba’ - a sworn oath) complete Sabbaths." (Leviticus 23:15)

[materialclassified]

The timing was important, as it is throughout Scripture, which is why I am dismayed by Christians who dismiss the vociferous detailed accounting concerning God’s prophetic timeline with a flippant, thoughtless, out of context, and poorly translated "no one knows the hour." God said accurately count seven Sabbaths from the day after the special Sabbath of Unleavened Bread, and from the wave offering on the Called-Out Assembly of FirstFruits.

[materialclassified]

By stating that this Feast is "YHWH’s renewed gift," God is connecting the elements which comprise His story for us. He is linking the Miqra’ey with the Ekklesia, the Old Covenant with the Renewed Covenant, Yahuweh with Yahushua, and the Torah with Grace. He has obliterated the myth that there is a distinction, a difference between His prescriptions for living in the Torah and grace-based salvation. Yahushua came to fulfill the Scriptures, because they provide the path to paradise.

[jumanous]

@materialclassified God's prophetic timeline is very clear, however his second coming is based on other factors. i.e. he is long suffering. He will wait as long as he needs to, to do the work.

[jumanous]

@materialclassified not sure how that applies.

[materialclassified]

Paul Of Tarsus Says:

Ephesians 2:14-15a For he himself is our peace, who has made the two one and has destroyed the barrier, the dividing wall of hostility by abolishing in his flesh the law with its commandments and regulations.

[materialclassified]

Yahushua Says:

Matthew 5:17-18 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.”

[jumanous]

@materialclassified yep... absolutely, the law stands. "here are they that keep the commandments of God and have the faith of Jesus". Paul is very clear on the law still standing to anyone who doesn't take select texts of his out of context.

[jumanous]

@materialclassified The Holy Spirit through Paul of Tarsus says: 2Ti 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

2Ti 3:17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

[jumanous]

@materialclassified what does it mean to abolish the law in the flesh. The law cannot be changed, therefore clearly this means stopping sinning. The law couldn't do that, we required the Holy Spirit to overtake our minds so we are capable stopping sinning... as we can't stop sinning without a perfect connection to the holy spirit like Christ had.

[materialclassified]

The Law (the Torah) is abolished

Romans 7:4 So, my brothers, you also died to the law through the body of Christ, that you might belong to another, to him who was raised from the dead, in order that we might bear fruit to God.

Yahushua Says:

Matthew 19:17 "Why do you ask me about what is good?" Jesus replied. "There is only One who is good. If you want to enter life, obey the commandments."

[jumanous]

@materialclassified Again, read romans 8 in the KJV.

[materialclassified]

Paul Of Tarsus Says:

Romans 6:14 For sin shall not be your master, because you are not under law, but under grace.

Yahushua (Jesus) Says:

Luke 16:17 But it is easier for heaven and earth to pass away than for one stroke of a letter in the Torah to become void.

Paul says that we are not under the law, Jesus says that it would be easier for the entire universe to be destroyed than for even one letter of His Torah to become void.

[jumanous]

@materialclassified you clearly misunderstand what paul was saying (both the bible one and the one in the video!). Everyone always ignores Romans 8... and Galations 5. Paul was very clear that the law was still binding, however he was explaining how we have to war against our flesh, and that it isn't easy. He was talking to people like us, who were complete sinners and had never heard the law before. Read Hebrews and you will see how he talks to Jews. Also get a KJV.

[Theoizbac]

Beautiful explanation... Praises to Father God in the name and sacrifice and resurrection of Jesus Christ our Savior

[Friendoflord]

Marcion brought this concept in the first century, He had deleted the tanakh and had only the writings of Paul, and was more less gnostic, He hated the God of the old testament, theJews and law. Sayig the God of the new testament was differnent than the old. He was kiscked from the church for life, shortly behind him was Origen who followed suit, and was kicked for life from the church. Today thier teachings permiate the church. Very sad

[thelastcrisis]

The covenants can be a complicated subject, but Paul Godfrey simplifies it beautifully, and exalts Christ. Thank you for this video.

[jumanous]

@thelastcrisis you are welcome :)

[Ltaxe1]

man this is just what i needed to know thank you for putting it in a way that we humans can understand

[jumanous]

@Ltaxe1 :)

[jakhiggi68]

thank you you explain it well

[jumanous]

@jakhiggi68 thanks for your comment. I agree, Paul does a good job.

[nightgash]

Thank you for this video.

[jumanous]

@nightgash you are most welcome :)