While I agree that an ultimate symbol for "thought" is a fine idea, your design is crude, imperfect and aesthetically unappealing. Can you really look at THAT symbol and honestly tell me, with unshakable certainty, that it fully embodies the sheer complexity and wonder of the most astonishing degrees of cognition?
Symbols are born from the combined intellectual efforts of the hundreds of thousands of generations of thinkers that preceded us. No Lone scribbler gets to symbolize thought FOR us.
Very interesting. But, this symbol is an personal symbol to you alone, not anybody else. You cannot force a symbol, character, or number into existence. They each evolve, naturally, over time.
Absolutely useless pseudo-philosophical garbage. There is no need for a "thought symbol" in "physical expressions". You simply drew a collection of lines and assigned them personal meaning. Why spend so much time and thought on something so memetically meaningless?
Not to be a negative Nellie but... the only problem: it is copyrighted. If it will truly be used as "the" thought symbol then it must have free use, public domain. Otherwise it might as well be the logo for coca-cola for it can only be used by you. I do like the logo even though I can't use it.
you can use it, just not in commerce. youre permitted to use term "coca-cola" but not sell or profit from that term. i trademarked the thought symbol so it would NOT be restricted by any overt commercial interests; I trademarked it so it would be protected and hopefully fulfill its intended purpose as "the" thought symbol.
I see a body, well the head (the loop) and the wave which is the actual processing of the thought and the ball as the final result of the the thought, the thought itself.
i found your work interesting and would like to use your symbol in an equation i developed in advance of publication (to represent thought and nothing else). How shall I proceed?
For thousands of years the symbol of thought, expression and theory has been used by the symbol of gemini. I cant show it here but look it up......... The symbol of mercury is what you are after.
Personally, I find the light-bulb to be a better symbol for a thought than this one. All this symbol reminds me of is a person and a ball, which seems like it could be a better symbol for sports than thought. Maybe it would have been improved by not rotating the sine waves so it looked less like a stick-man tossing a ball in the air.
of course this symbol will be whatever you "think" it is. the light-bulb is a light-bulb and may not be relevant as technology evolves. the sine wave was rotated specifically to look like a humanoid focusing on a specific point or thought. thanks for watching!
I've always lacked this symbol for thoughts in many things I tried to do, most of the time I spelled "Ego" or used a greek leter, but now you give me a great alternative: you'll definitively allow me to develop many things!
How about designing symbols for other words such as emotion, insignificance, nostrils, disposition, fart, consciousness, stupidity, hegemony, magnitude, elvis, tetrapod, pelican, choice, knuckle, jargon, vomit, the, list, goes, on, and, so, on, etc, etc, etc, etc,
I will have to give some thought to your proposed symbol. Seriously: it's interesting. Some of your examples I can see, some are forced. The graph meanings are too abstract for me. It almost reminds me of The Thinker. It's similar to the Cingular symbol. Not being a character on the standard keyboard, you have the Artist Formerly Known As Prince problem. My candidate: T! T for Thought and ! for Idea, Eureka, Novelty.
I hope you don't think that's new. That's the symbol you get when using wingdings and you press alt-shift-ctrl-f5-~-T. Total copyright infringement here.
I appreciate the work you've put into this, and it's all very elegant, but the idea of "quantifying thought" is just mathematical megalomania. I can't even imagine what that would mean. As the economists try to quantify everything, we need to be going in just the opposite direction, that of returning quality to and thus rendrering the infinite variety of experience. This is what poets and artists do.
Absolutely, I'm not against quantification per se. It's a wonderful instrument i.e. a means. But it tends to become autonomous and set itself up as an end. I am still very far from understanding how "thought" can be quantified, and so are you, I believe. Thought is rendered by Proust or Rilke or Henry James, not quantified by mathematicians or economists.
plato invented the word for idea. eidos, idea, means literally empirical sight from the eyes. Plato made the word for sight into a figurative word for idea, both the same word, but contextualized in each case. we can create meaning in language - it's amazing.
as for your symbol for thought, i have to ask why you think this is important? you said that there is no thought symbol, but that doesn't explain why we need one.
Okay, nice concept and possible icon if it takes. In the time line of life, it will have it's hay day. Possible and hopefully in your lifetime. Now go and cure cancer. :)
the copyright is really a non-issue if you are using the symbol in its intended purpose. you may be correct on the arabic right-reading; perhaps the website i used will become as good at translations and video sharing as they are as a search engine. i don't really understand your symmetry comment; your heart is not centered, you're probably right-handed, and the earth is not a perfect sphere.
I prefer open source non-copyright symbols. However, you got the Arabic word for thought backward. The language is Semitic and runs from right-to-left, and technically the symbol may be better symmetrical.
true; the ankh is egyptian in origin. i was being diverse since i had already mentioned the eye of ra. the celtic reference was to its use in recent pop culture.
How exactly you "quantified" thought by merely asigning a glyph to it? I mean, that doesn't accomplish anything. You didn't even defined thought rigorously (dictionary definitions are hardly well-defined enough to be used in a formal language).
And for that matter, one could just as easily use any other glyph, such as the greek letter tau or theta, or write the definition in form of a propostion T(x) such that all x are T if they satisfy the given definition.
i did not quantify thought in this presentation. i said it's quantifiable and proposed using this symbol to represent that value. this video was about the thought symbol, not a philosophical dissertation on thought.
you could use any other glyph, but there wasn't any, thus this video. i would propose the value of thought is a relative constant and not conditional.
thank you! this just helped me out so much. I was contemplating how to symbolize thought in my mandala without attempting to draw a brain.
dutchburnin 3 months ago
While I agree that an ultimate symbol for "thought" is a fine idea, your design is crude, imperfect and aesthetically unappealing. Can you really look at THAT symbol and honestly tell me, with unshakable certainty, that it fully embodies the sheer complexity and wonder of the most astonishing degrees of cognition?
Symbols are born from the combined intellectual efforts of the hundreds of thousands of generations of thinkers that preceded us. No Lone scribbler gets to symbolize thought FOR us.
frown 11 months ago
Really?REALLY? This is comedy right? What an absurd pile of self indulgent rubbish. Aligon42 is right.Pseudo-philosophical garbage.
newcoyote 1 year ago
@newcoyote, if you think so...
jasonhoblin 1 year ago
Very interesting. But, this symbol is an personal symbol to you alone, not anybody else. You cannot force a symbol, character, or number into existence. They each evolve, naturally, over time.
ozisvirtual 1 year ago
Absolutely useless pseudo-philosophical garbage. There is no need for a "thought symbol" in "physical expressions". You simply drew a collection of lines and assigned them personal meaning. Why spend so much time and thought on something so memetically meaningless?
Aligon42 2 years ago
memetically, nice!
does a computer need RAM or processor cache? and should we not quantify that state?
jasonhoblin 2 years ago
Why not use the bit or the byte in conjunction with all those convenient S.I. suffixes?
Aligon42 2 years ago
yes a computer does need RAM and processor cache... what's your point?
rammy912 2 years ago
Not to be a negative Nellie but... the only problem: it is copyrighted. If it will truly be used as "the" thought symbol then it must have free use, public domain. Otherwise it might as well be the logo for coca-cola for it can only be used by you. I do like the logo even though I can't use it.
write99999 2 years ago
you can use it, just not in commerce. youre permitted to use term "coca-cola" but not sell or profit from that term. i trademarked the thought symbol so it would NOT be restricted by any overt commercial interests; I trademarked it so it would be protected and hopefully fulfill its intended purpose as "the" thought symbol.
please, feel free to use it!
jasonhoblin 2 years ago
Absolutely wonderful, FTR I love exponential growth... the eye or Ra, the Ankh, The Cresant and all of it. Woo hoo!
Samadhiatman500 2 years ago
I see a body, well the head (the loop) and the wave which is the actual processing of the thought and the ball as the final result of the the thought, the thought itself.
bogieman987 2 years ago
i found your work interesting and would like to use your symbol in an equation i developed in advance of publication (to represent thought and nothing else). How shall I proceed?
HViewBeerHunter 2 years ago
Reminds me in Wittgenstein...
NYXYTHER 3 years ago
For thousands of years the symbol of thought, expression and theory has been used by the symbol of gemini. I cant show it here but look it up......... The symbol of mercury is what you are after.
spartacus6839 3 years ago
Does the symbol look like a female symbol and a bit of a circle on top lol
bogieman987 2 years ago
yes
spartacus6839 2 years ago
Personally, I find the light-bulb to be a better symbol for a thought than this one. All this symbol reminds me of is a person and a ball, which seems like it could be a better symbol for sports than thought. Maybe it would have been improved by not rotating the sine waves so it looked less like a stick-man tossing a ball in the air.
Agnotio 3 years ago
of course this symbol will be whatever you "think" it is. the light-bulb is a light-bulb and may not be relevant as technology evolves. the sine wave was rotated specifically to look like a humanoid focusing on a specific point or thought. thanks for watching!
jasonhoblin 3 years ago
I've always lacked this symbol for thoughts in many things I tried to do, most of the time I spelled "Ego" or used a greek leter, but now you give me a great alternative: you'll definitively allow me to develop many things!
maksiiiskam2 3 years ago
DEEP! Good job. I am interested in your types or representations of thought extensions/variables in working equations.
publicwatcher 4 years ago
wayyyyyyyyyyyyy too much time on your hands. go on a date man. i cant watch this garbage any longer.
jepumplebass 4 years ago
Thats so stupid...
Kreis89 4 years ago 2
How about designing symbols for other words such as emotion, insignificance, nostrils, disposition, fart, consciousness, stupidity, hegemony, magnitude, elvis, tetrapod, pelican, choice, knuckle, jargon, vomit, the, list, goes, on, and, so, on, etc, etc, etc, etc,
hedgewytche 4 years ago 2
"registered trademark"....DAMN IT! Now I can't steal it!
KingHeathen 4 years ago
I will have to give some thought to your proposed symbol. Seriously: it's interesting. Some of your examples I can see, some are forced. The graph meanings are too abstract for me. It almost reminds me of The Thinker. It's similar to the Cingular symbol. Not being a character on the standard keyboard, you have the Artist Formerly Known As Prince problem. My candidate: T! T for Thought and ! for Idea, Eureka, Novelty.
StevenErnest 4 years ago
Very nice. The segment where you compare the symbol to numerous older symbols was of particular interest.
HanifXHier 4 years ago
wow, you're way too smart man
alexd29 4 years ago
i knew that.
jasonhoblin 4 years ago
awesome. i wanna write that symbol on everything now :p
oafany 4 years ago
thanks. be sure to use a pencil.
jasonhoblin 4 years ago
I hope you don't think that's new. That's the symbol you get when using wingdings and you press alt-shift-ctrl-f5-~-T. Total copyright infringement here.
holyjesus 4 years ago
wrong.
jasonhoblin 4 years ago
Nope. You just need to update your font files.
holyjesus 4 years ago
Sorry brother, I'm just joshing. I find your video very interesting.
holyjesus 4 years ago
yea you got me. i tried the combo 3 times before i figured its was bullshit.
jasonhoblin 4 years ago
Very interesting video!
*subscribed
JordantheAtheist 4 years ago
thank you.
jasonhoblin 4 years ago
You've put a lot of thought into this, haven't you? :)
bigjersteen 4 years ago
i think so.
jasonhoblin 4 years ago
I appreciate the work you've put into this, and it's all very elegant, but the idea of "quantifying thought" is just mathematical megalomania. I can't even imagine what that would mean. As the economists try to quantify everything, we need to be going in just the opposite direction, that of returning quality to and thus rendrering the infinite variety of experience. This is what poets and artists do.
parispeter2 4 years ago
i disagree. that you are even have mediums such as this to experience quality are credit to the "economists"
jasonhoblin 4 years ago
Absolutely, I'm not against quantification per se. It's a wonderful instrument i.e. a means. But it tends to become autonomous and set itself up as an end. I am still very far from understanding how "thought" can be quantified, and so are you, I believe. Thought is rendered by Proust or Rilke or Henry James, not quantified by mathematicians or economists.
parispeter2 4 years ago
This is a superb work, both generally, as it's presented, and specifically, as what it presents. Well done.
azrienoch 4 years ago
thank you for being contextual! i'm glad you liked the video.
jasonhoblin 4 years ago
damn buddy, i am impressed. great video
renettothepedo 4 years ago
my name is jason and thank you.
jasonhoblin 4 years ago
nice commentary..."put thought in context {t}"
BryanBuhryan 4 years ago
thanks cuz.
jasonhoblin 4 years ago
thanks, reverend.
jasonhoblin 4 years ago
plato invented the word for idea. eidos, idea, means literally empirical sight from the eyes. Plato made the word for sight into a figurative word for idea, both the same word, but contextualized in each case. we can create meaning in language - it's amazing.
as for your symbol for thought, i have to ask why you think this is important? you said that there is no thought symbol, but that doesn't explain why we need one.
this video is kind of dumb.
trerrunus 4 years ago
i explained why the thought symbol is needed and why its important to me in the Application section.
jasonhoblin 4 years ago
Okay, nice concept and possible icon if it takes. In the time line of life, it will have it's hay day. Possible and hopefully in your lifetime. Now go and cure cancer. :)
JamJells 4 years ago
thank you. i appreciate your sentiment. i do have few equally grandiose tasks in mind.
jasonhoblin 4 years ago
the copyright is really a non-issue if you are using the symbol in its intended purpose. you may be correct on the arabic right-reading; perhaps the website i used will become as good at translations and video sharing as they are as a search engine. i don't really understand your symmetry comment; your heart is not centered, you're probably right-handed, and the earth is not a perfect sphere.
jasonhoblin 4 years ago
I prefer open source non-copyright symbols. However, you got the Arabic word for thought backward. The language is Semitic and runs from right-to-left, and technically the symbol may be better symmetrical.
Angrynight 4 years ago
This is dumb.
MotherMoth 4 years ago
not in comparison to your comment.
jasonhoblin 4 years ago
lol your the dumbass who doesnt understand the fucking video troll.
oafany 4 years ago
true; the ankh is egyptian in origin. i was being diverse since i had already mentioned the eye of ra. the celtic reference was to its use in recent pop culture.
jasonhoblin 4 years ago
Oh, and the ankh is egyptian, not celtic.
oogashakaooga 4 years ago
How exactly you "quantified" thought by merely asigning a glyph to it? I mean, that doesn't accomplish anything. You didn't even defined thought rigorously (dictionary definitions are hardly well-defined enough to be used in a formal language).
And for that matter, one could just as easily use any other glyph, such as the greek letter tau or theta, or write the definition in form of a propostion T(x) such that all x are T if they satisfy the given definition.
oogashakaooga 4 years ago
i did not quantify thought in this presentation. i said it's quantifiable and proposed using this symbol to represent that value. this video was about the thought symbol, not a philosophical dissertation on thought.
you could use any other glyph, but there wasn't any, thus this video. i would propose the value of thought is a relative constant and not conditional.
jasonhoblin 4 years ago
In that case I'll stay put for your next videos.
Although I am not that excited about the idea of a "thought symbol", I found your video very good. I like your editing style and content. :-)
oogashakaooga 4 years ago
Interesting.
bcrogers 4 years ago
indeed.
jasonhoblin 4 years ago
Good job.
TheAmazingAtheist 4 years ago
ty.
jasonhoblin 4 years ago