Strange Star Trek Closing Credits

[retroguy1976]

the shows runned by desilu were great I feel paramount lost their edge on some shows

[technopoptart]

They did that since the 1980's runs of the original series. Used to be 3 logos sometimes.

[minnowtrappermd]

reason for desilu at the end was because Paramount did not gain all TV control untill end of 1968

[redraiderredinLubboc]

Now Viacom, a distribution company when it started, owns Paramount Pictures, CBS, King World distribution, a small production company which did the Fred Silmverman/Dean Hargrove lawyer/doctor/detective series (Perry Mason movies and all that followed -- three potfulls of money and a partridge in a pear tree.

[redraiderredinLubboc]

pharbizog is right. The merger took place during the summer of 1967, to go into effect when Lucy finished filming The Lucy Show later that fall. So some of the Star Trek second-season episodes (I think the first 13 filmed) were done under the Desilu banner and some under the Paramount banner. The show didn't Jump The Shark until the turn of the calendar to 1968 air dates (doubt me? Compare The Trouble With Tribbles on December 29 to The Gamesters of Triskelion on January 5!

[fmscribs]

"Lucy, you've got some explaining to do!"

[PCCphoenix]

CBS and Paramount seem to have merged recently, just as NBC and Universal have merged, for their video distribution and broadcast.

[Pinky39559]

I personally see nothing strange about the Paramount logo combo , but to each his / her own I reckon .

[nx01alpha]

Fortunately, CBS corrected this on the Season 3 Blu-Ray set...all Paramount Television logos were removed and replaced by the current CBS Television Distribution logo.

Strangely, CBS replaced all Paramount logos on TOS S2 on Blu-Ray with the Desilu logo/CBS TD logo. This occurred even on episodes after TOS became a PTV production.

[greatguy200]

Aww no Balok at the end? Bummer, I was getting ready to scare it!

[prckay]

Desilu should be the name for televison

[reggie44]

This is a mid-2000's syndication/cable logo, put on all the remastered Star Trek original series. Desilu was the original studio for Star Trek. Gulf + Western (Paramount owners during the 1960's) bought Desilu from Lucille Ball in 1967, and it became Paramount Television. Through merger & acquisition over the years, Viacom purchased both Paramount and CBS.

[LogoAttitude]

Viacom actually started as a division of CBS

[reggie44]

True. Desilu sold the rights to "I Love Lucy" to CBS, and Viacom was the result. It was the shell co. set up for syndicating all the CBS in-house productions (Gilligan's Island, Wild Wild West, Twilight Zone, etc.), and got spun off as a separate entity to avoid FCC procecution in '74 (the rules changed over the years). Ironically, Viacom made so much cash off those old, tired reruns, that it came back and took over the mothership!

[ClassicTVMan1981X]

@reggie44

The deal did not include "The Lucy Show" because that show aired in 1962. Even in the 1980s Paramount TV had syndication rights to that show.

[reggie44]

@ClassicTVMan1981X : Also true. The post-Desilu company was Lucille Ball Productions, co-owned with her 2nd husband Gary Morton. They began production on "The Lucy Show" during the Desilu era, but rolled it into LBP after the Paramount purchase... filming at the former Desilu, now Paramount lot!

[mikeysaur65]

You have some 'splaining to do, Uhura!

[LARUCUS]

.... what the hell??? ok, since when did star trek become part of desilu?!?!?!

[TheRebel2007]

It was Desilu studios (owned by none other than Lucille "I Love Lucy" Ball) that saved Star Trek from early cancellation!

I thought every Star Trek Fan knew that?!

[edybeast]

I can't recall what book it was regarding ST, but Lucy showed up on the set one day, and said she wanted to see how her money was being spent; apparently, she was satisified with what she saw.

[prckay]

@TheRebel2007 we have to thank Lucille ball who gave the green light to the project which would make star trek so huge

[pharbizorg]

It was Desilu studios before it was bought out by Paramount.

[PareliusProductions]

@pharbizorg Actually, it was bought by a conglomerate known as Gulf and Western who also bought a failing Paramount Pictures at the time. They then renamed Desilu to Paramount Television.

[Niusereset]

Well, from the beginning.

Paramount got Star Trek when Desilu became part of Paramount. But at the begining it was individual studios, which created Star Trek.

[colezig37]

if you're referring to Douglas Cramer at the end, he took over after Herb solow left the studio, and Bob Justman quit the show.

[smithrs]

The thing most people don't know is that TOS was a Desilu production, which means that Lucille Ball was instrumental in getting Star Trek on the air. After her divorce from Desi Arnaz she had full control and made all the decisions about what got the Green Light and what didn't.

[klaitu2]

yeah, I dont get why this is strange, the credits are completely unchanged.

[TheManiacOnWheelsUSA]

What is so strange about this?

[ChrisRJ]

Am I wrong, or did they cut the creepy alien out of the ending?

[nakyer]

He wasn't always there.

[BlackmoonUK]

Balok's puppet.

[ChrisRJ]

Thanks, all. I'm not a real ST fan really, but I used to see it on syndication as a kid, and the very ending used to scare me. I was hoping to find it and be taken back.

[leandar]

It did me too at times as a kid. It was only on the second season end credits. The first season end credits had Vina from "The Cage" and the third season end credits was always a shot out into space.

[mgmbacklot]

Desilu first produced Star Trek, Paramount purchased Desilu from Lucille Ball in 1967, aquirring the rights to the Desilu library and production schedule.. for instance Mission Impossible was a desiu TV show, now paramount owns the rights, and that is why they make the movies of the same name...

[korgri]

my god... how will we sleep tonight knowing this?

[emini6]

its new today

[Dunbahl]

The tag at the end is beacause of renewed copywright and distribution rights. CBS/Paramount Television currentley are distributing Star Trek for syndication (despite it being an origional NBC show), thierfore thier current logo appears at the end. I work in TV this is verey common it just loooks weird to see a modern CG logo tagged on to such an old show.

[louiswendt]

As for me, I don't mind whatever present distribution logos are being tacked on before/afterwards to these newest incarnations of TOS. However, it would be nice, and fitting, to accurately preserve all the studio logo art as it originally appeared in prime time broadcast, and, of course, appropriate to the season.

[louiswendt]

In addition- as I'm actually old enough to remember "Star Trek" prime time, heaven forbid- I'd stretch it a step further and ask that the unfolding NBC "Living Color 'Laramie'" peacock (beautiful unto itself) which prefaced these shows be reinserted- maybe even the NBC snake logo after! Not having yet purchased any DVD packages of TOS, perhaps these are represented at least somewhere in the bonus material? (Y'all tell me) Thanks

[enigma413]

Now most of the Star Trek episodes shown on broadcast television have had the "CBS/Paramount" logo replaced by "CBS Television Distribution."

[at90percent]

Desilu studios was created by Desi Arnez and Lucille Ball. Later bought by Paramount.

[Edwardmill]

isn't it just the desilu logo from those days and then the current credit of distributution? besides, that probably all they could find accurate enough in their archives. people are lazy u know...

[britfrenir]

Nice to see desilu, but there is logo plastering after this.

[reggie44]

Some Desilu shows were in the can when Paramount took over, so when they were broadcast, those with the merging circles had "(c)1972 Para." taglines tacked on, just before they went to the PTV "orange sun" w/the Fred Steiner fanfare.

Somtime around 2k4 or -5, Viacom took them all, did full digital resto, and wiped the Para tag off the merging circles. But for copyright purposes, they put the CGI CBS-Para with the original (c) date at the end.

[reggie44]

To clarify, I mean re-broadcast for syndication.

[KeenRich]

I'm back and I still say CBS Corp F**king SUX.

[vorsdec]

blame desilu

[korranus]

blame canada

[flashfast2000]

@korranus Blame Canada!!

[prckay]

@vorsdec why blame desilu

[JMFabianoRPL]

Also I can't believe after 40+ years, there is no Paramount presence on television AT ALL.

[PF9ThePikachuLover]

Not exactly, the company still has "Paramount" in its name, and DVD distribution is handled by Paramount Home Entertainment.

[88HJS]

Hmmm... season 3 of "Star Trek" was 1968-69, so the Desilu logo would've been out of date... and "CBS Paramount Television, A Gulf+Western Company" is just stupid. They should've just kept the old logo.

[dwalex97209]

You're right, korranus. What CBS Paramount should hve done was for the first season use the Desilu, then CBS/P logo. First part of season 2, ditto; and second half of season 2 and all of season 3, that nightmare we call the Paramount mountain and then the CBS/P logo. Just the way I picture this.

[sexymama1966]

they're calling themselves..killing 2 birds with one stone..i saw the original desilu with the copyrighted 1967 below the desilu and the cbs/paramount tv..i wished they could have done thme like that too..sony and paramount are like--i got this, now let's brag about it..

[JMFabianoRPL]

Yes, this is their way of saying, "See?  We care about the past!" But they are still pushing their current corporation at the expense of Paramount Television's erasure. (not unlike Sony erasing CPT) This happens on M:I Season 3 too (except the M:I title card has the copyright, apparently, THEN CBS-PTV comes presence on TV now. Cause you couldn't, you know, play the ORIGINAL logo THEN CBS-P Wallpaper or Eye of Boredom?)

[WillWill45]

I posted 2 comments on a row, one was a reply.

[WillWill45]

I think they were afraid that the Red Split Box was scary, so the used the CBS Paramount one. But they wanted to show the orignal copyright for the show, so they did this.

[KillerClam1]

They want you to tremble from their closet killer

[sexymama1966]

since cbs/paramount merged, they're doing away with anything that had the old paramount logo(the mountain with "paramount on top). i noticed that too. thank god for you tube so we can see the old paramount tv logos forever.

[TeshawnEdmonds]

Wow! Cool! I have the same closing credits with just the latter logo.

[Wyraachur]

weird. maybe the next time its shown, you could upload the video of the actual logo, rather than this neat (if not odd) little recreation

[Morality124]

why does it say a gulf+western company?" a pitiful attempt at retro

[ClassicTVFan82]

That's because CBS feared viewers may miss out on what year these episodes were made.

[sexymama1966]

because that's who used to own paramount in the 60's-the 80's.

[radamail]

You're right. They're probably keeping the old Desilu Studios logo to keep "street creds" with nostalgic Trekker fans, while showing off their merger marriage with flashier updated CBS/Paramount logos.

Although a rising CBS eye over the Paramount horizon strikes me as kind of tacky, that's showbiz for you.

[Intersonus903]

Because "Gulf+Western" was the company that owned Paramount at the time, which was a huge conglomerate that also dealt with textiles, publishing, tobacco, zinc mining, and sugar.

However, when the Gulf+Western founder (whose name I can't recall at the moment) perished in a plane crash in the early 1980s, Gulf+Western spun off all of their divisions except Paramount. G+W would eventually become Paramount Communications before being purchased by Viacom.

[Morality124]

Yes I know that. I was saying why would CBS Paramount have it in the logo? They aren't owned by G&W anymore, so what's the point?

[Intersonus903]

Probably because that was the company that owned Paramount Television at the time the episode was produced, so the copyright notification for the year of production has to reflect that. It can't say "copyright 1968 by CBS/Paramount television" since CBS/Paramount didn't exist back then. It would be "Copyright 1968 Paramount Pictures Corp, A G+W Co./2007 CBS/Paramount Television Corp."

[ClassicTVFan82]

Such hybrid.

[ClassicTVFan82]

His name is Charles Bluhdorn, and he died in that crash in 1983. After Bluhdorn died, Martin Davis took over as CEO and restructured G+W by spinning off all its non-media-related businesses, eventually renaming the company to Paramount Communications in 1989.

[Intersonus903]

Yep.

[ECG3485]

That founder's name was Charles Bluhdorn

[WillWill45]

I think they were afraid that the Red Split Box was scary, so the used the CBS Paramount one. But they wanted to show the orignal copyright for the show, so they did this

[randomchannel134]

You know what I think? THEY SHOULD'VE JUST KEPT THE FREAKING PARAMOUNT LOGO!

[megamanj2004]

They even had the Yellow Split Box in place of the Rising Circle on some S2 eps. as well!

[ClassicTVFan82]

Also check the 1985 VHS tapes.

[thunderstruck665]

The closing credits that showed Balok at the end used to scare me to death when I was little!!

[enigma413]

This is strange.

[KadratisVelevere]

rofl. They can't make their minds up when it comes to how many times they should add their logo in.

[AllisonSNLKid]

Damn you Paramount/CBS. I don't know anymore - too many properties in one!!!!

[Morality124]

blame CBS!

[KeenRich]

F**K CBS!!

[ShaDeed329]

Quit hatin' on CBS!

[Morality124]

Yeah, just kidding.

[DanteLeonhart]

Blame Morality124