For how much Tolkien covered, he even missed the origin of his distaste the base of the problems and for which all of you comment you don't even hit the target let alone the range on which you aim.
Tolkien lived in the age when he saw the technology taking over the lifestyle of history. He was pretty much sad about the electricity wires and driving roads taking over the scenery of his childhood. I hope this explains his dislike for technology, for a certain era. He did learn to like certain equipments later, though.
Somehow Pink Floyd's "High Hopes" rises in my mind thinking of that idea.
@aswedish1 "the machine" is the mechanism of control and coercion. It is a symbolic representation of the mechanism to control and dominate others. It could be a magic ring, or it could be the literal machines of industry that change the world. Tolkien saw machines as a way to dominate others.
Think of young JRR T standing in the trenchline of the Somme in 1916. Machines of death all around him. Tanks, the new machine that would roll over men. The army, a great killing machine in which the soldiers were just replaceable parts. That's what shaped his vision of the modern world, as it did to so many others who were there.
@Maximillionaire666 I don't think he would have hated the films, as his son says he didn't reject all technology, and the way the trilogy faithfully adapts the story would have pleased him. But he wouldn't be interested at all in the "making of" aspect, the CGI and special effects. I'm sure he would have hated the 1978 Bakshi cartoon though.
@belisariusorb Tolkien most definitely would have hated the films, not so much because of his distaste for technology, but rather because he firmly believed fantasy can only exist in the imagination. He has a fabulous essay called "On Fairy-tales" where he writes at length that physical enactments of the fantastical cannot but fail because the imgination is destroyed by such an attempt.
@belisariusorb haha Tolkien put it a lot better. You should check out the essay if you have time. It's usually published with the allegorical short story Leaf by Niggle
he hated the modern world Mr.Tolkien.Although we were able to enjoy his wonderful trilogie due to that machine he was profusely avoiding visually .Then again who am I to have an opinion about such a great author and educator of literature.His son said his Father feared coersion.Evolution is inevitable.
For how much Tolkien covered, he even missed the origin of his distaste the base of the problems and for which all of you comment you don't even hit the target let alone the range on which you aim.
Colton5 2 weeks ago
Tolkien lived in the age when he saw the technology taking over the lifestyle of history. He was pretty much sad about the electricity wires and driving roads taking over the scenery of his childhood. I hope this explains his dislike for technology, for a certain era. He did learn to like certain equipments later, though.
Somehow Pink Floyd's "High Hopes" rises in my mind thinking of that idea.
Elainiwen 2 months ago
Like Tolkien, I wish the automobile had never been invented. It's the major contributor to our fast-paced lifestyle, which I don't like.
vinylrecordcollector 2 months ago
The machine is our addiction to the gadget. The apparatus of the State. The creature rather than the creator. Our love of power.
TwoMunchuTwo 4 months ago
l am really bad at english, the only thing l dont understand i what is the machine?
aswedish1 4 months ago
@aswedish1 "the machine" is the mechanism of control and coercion. It is a symbolic representation of the mechanism to control and dominate others. It could be a magic ring, or it could be the literal machines of industry that change the world. Tolkien saw machines as a way to dominate others.
oakstave 3 months ago
@SASNIGHTCRAWLER Tolkien wasn't anarchist
StarLord1996 6 months ago
@SASNIGHTCRAWLER no it means literal machines with smoke and moving parts and everything, its a pink floyd song haha
mannymm25 8 months ago
Think of young JRR T standing in the trenchline of the Somme in 1916. Machines of death all around him. Tanks, the new machine that would roll over men. The army, a great killing machine in which the soldiers were just replaceable parts. That's what shaped his vision of the modern world, as it did to so many others who were there.
belisariusorb 1 year ago
the trilogy of films is great, but I can't help thinking that if Tolkien were still alive during their making, he would have hated them, kind of sad.
Maximillionaire666 1 year ago
@Maximillionaire666 I don't think he would have hated the films, as his son says he didn't reject all technology, and the way the trilogy faithfully adapts the story would have pleased him. But he wouldn't be interested at all in the "making of" aspect, the CGI and special effects. I'm sure he would have hated the 1978 Bakshi cartoon though.
belisariusorb 1 year ago
@belisariusorb Probably, or worse yet, he certainly would have despised the Rankin/Bass adaption of Return of the King!!!
Maximillionaire666 1 year ago
@belisariusorb Tolkien most definitely would have hated the films, not so much because of his distaste for technology, but rather because he firmly believed fantasy can only exist in the imagination. He has a fabulous essay called "On Fairy-tales" where he writes at length that physical enactments of the fantastical cannot but fail because the imgination is destroyed by such an attempt.
morphinemoniza 1 year ago
@morphinemoniza Very interesting comment - I think you've definitively settled that one.
belisariusorb 1 year ago
@belisariusorb haha Tolkien put it a lot better. You should check out the essay if you have time. It's usually published with the allegorical short story Leaf by Niggle
morphinemoniza 1 year ago
@morphinemoniza Would be too demoralising for me as I'm working on a radio play of a fantastical legend. I like your imps by the way, sexy and weird.
belisariusorb 1 year ago
@belisariusorb my imps are imagination rendered physical, so I should feel bad too. oh well. we can't all be tolkien
morphinemoniza 1 year ago
Sort of ironic watching this on the very mechanical world of the internet.
mcdevster 1 year ago
it is an irony that his work comes to visual form through modern technology....
333999dsk 1 year ago
@333999dsk Yes. It is like a woman. She's blessing and curse at once.
alahadakovic 1 year ago
he hated the modern world Mr.Tolkien.Although we were able to enjoy his wonderful trilogie due to that machine he was profusely avoiding visually .Then again who am I to have an opinion about such a great author and educator of literature.His son said his Father feared coersion.Evolution is inevitable.
MrJacksonvill 1 year ago
@MrJacksonvill And that's what will bring down humanity. Evolution of technology.
alahadakovic 1 year ago