@GenerationXT Like the Vorlans, they hide away their true self from the younger races. Their true self is never known to these races because outside their suit they are vulnerable to attack. So to be able to teach, even if it is in a harsh way, they must protect themselves. The suit is the best way to do that. Remember, the first Vorlan, it talks about him getting hurt outside of his suit. It is the same concept here.
Hes human but an evolved form when the two halves of our soul join ie human and mimbari. If you remember in season 5 the vorlon's homeworld is waiting for us but we must earn it and deserve it so thats the new earth he speaks of. The suit i imagine is both to conceal his true form and power and is an extension of the ship he flies. If you remember many times Kosh had to return to his ship to regenerate his power when consumed so its both for defensive and offensive purposes.
Loved the premise of this scene, but the impact was slightly lessened by having the character as a white guy in a skull-cap. What would have really sold this is if the character were multi-ethnic to the point of ambiguous, and female, or perhaps even a hermaphrodite.
According to B5 canon he was a being of pure energy that chose to manifest in that particular physical form , he could of chosen any form, he chose that one.
They should have just stuck with this as series finale season 5 was such a let down. I hated the new station commander. Ivanova should nave wound up as station commander.
Claudia Christian and JMS could not agree on money or something like that. That is why she was replaced. It is also why she appears, and not the pouty lipped Lockley, in sleeping in the light where they blow up the station. it was filmed at the end of season 4 but used in season 5
it was nice to see that in so far a future that humans evolved into beings of energy and grew beyond what we are in the show, basically turning into human vorlons..was great.thanks for this
@CrypticWatcher I like to think there are a few visual clues as to our standing on the galactic custodians scale (it's all pure conjecture of course). While he uses an encounter suit, his energy form looks more akin to Lorien. My personal suspicion is that we are somewhere between the two. Pastoral figures with a slight focus on order (but not as constrictive as the Vorlons). A fusion of controlling and nurturing parent.
For a long time i thot this was the ending. While Season 5 wasn't as good as the other season the ending there just felt better then the ending at the end of season 4 no real closer to the series with this end.
@supernuke it would've been, if TNT hadnt been dicks with no business sense.
cancelling Crusade because the viewers didnt watch their other shitty programs, instead of keeping the show to make the money from those viewers... it makes no sense to me. Millions of people watched B5, so what if they didnt watch the rest of your stupid offerings? You were still making millions from their viewership. Why throw it away? Morons, all of them.
After the Vorlon and Shadows left, Sheridan and the other were attempting to strengthen themselve through technology, specifically they wanted to go to the Vorlon home world.
Sheridan was having a conversations with Lyta's about this, then her eyes went all "glowy" and she said the "The Vorlon home world is off limits, until you are ready, until you have earned the right to there. One million years from now".
One thing is for sure: We will go extinct far earlier.
Evolution is working even now on us. But not to make us into beings of pure energy.
If we don´t invest massively in green energy we will lose our technology because fossile fuel runs out. We should also invest in fusion tech and geothermal energy.
@pcuimac sorry for replying on a 7-month old comment, but look up the ITER nuclear reactor. It's an international project to build a nuclear fusion generator prototype in France. They're expecting to have their first plasma (the core of a fusion process) up and running by 2019. If all goes well, they expect to have a reactor that actually powers something in place by 2030, and for nuclear fusion energy to be fully on the grid by mid 2040s.
@name887 Yeah I know that. But I think "pure" science is massively underfunded.
The bankers print money to produce housing bubbles and create a financial collapse and then ask us if we really need more science funding esp. something "useless" things like the james web telescope.
@pcuimac Then what about the start up of the LHC? That managed to get funding. Not to mention two in-progress satellites, the Solar Orbiter and the Euclid, each costing nearly a billion euros for the ESA to construct. Scientific research lives on.
Anyway, my nit-picking aside, they do call the genre science-fiction for a reason. They are allowed to take some poetic license, and for the most part they did a lot more right than wrong...like ships actually behaving like they have mass for example. It also doesn't take away from the fact that B5 is one of the best sci-fi series ever.
I look forward to this future time of evolution into a being of light and energy, but with the capability to transform to a carbon based lifeform at will.
I hope you are all there with me when this happens to us.
Yes, that our primative time is over and we become god-like at last ! Masters of space travel ! I hope that some day we do develope a way to make jump gates ! NASA know of over 500 worlds in the last 20 years..I´m sure there are millions more out there !! it is sad we have no way of humans travelling there at this moment in time..Our solar system seems to be the furthest we can go at the momeent. The Moon and Mars between 2010-2050..Unless we make a way of making space tavel alot faster !!!
I love B5, so I hate that they got this wrong. The Sun doesn't have sufficient mass to cause a nova. When the Sun runs out of hydrogen it will begin to expand into a red giant, destroying the Earth and the other inner planets. Once it runs out of usable fuel it will gradually lose mass and shrink into a white dwarf.
The computer detected a-typical readings increasing in intensity from the sun. Indicating that the sun did not die of natural causes (so to speak). :-) And besides the sun won't run out of fuel in one million years, it'll be around four to five billion years.
@Midan, uh, when a star in the same general class as our sun exhausts its hydrogen and expands into a red giant (actually ejecting its outer layers, which eventually drift on out leaving a white dwarf core that, after a VERY long time, cools down into a black cinder), that IS a nova.
You’re thinking SUPERnova, which is when a much larger star violently ejects its outer layers and its core collapses into either a neutron star or black hole, depending on how much mass remains.
@COMALiteJ Nope, that is not what a nova is. A Nova is smaller explosion relative to a supernova and only occurs in a binary star system where one of the stars has become a white dwarf and begins "stealing" matter from the other star. Eventually it builds up enough mass/pressure to trigger an explosion. That will not occur in our solar system since it is not a binary system.
@Athalston trouble is the way that our planet is at the moment, not to mention how we are treating it Earth will go tits up long before then, call me a pessimist but I'd be surprised if still life exists on this planet in a few thousand years let alone a million?
The best possible ending to the best season of the second best (Next to Stargate) Sci-Fi series of all time. I loved that episode. And I'm thrilled that earth re-achieved hyperspeed after "The Great Burn." But I thought the sun isn't going nova for another couple billion years! :P
@HarryBillyBobGeorge Well, no one can blame you for thinking stargate is the best, since everyone has their own opinions. But you might want to keep that to yourself, when you're among avid B5 fanatics.
If you watch the entire series (plus the 'movie-sodes') you'll find out that humans made the sun go nova roughly 800,000 years - 1,000,000 millions after B5 storyline, and, depending on the B5 fan you talk with, left to make a new home on the Vorlon's original Homeworld.
@Gallowell Babylon 5 is still very good. It just had a low budget, and was made in the 90s. Low budget = bad animation, and bad actors (Minus G'Kar, Marcus, and Delenn). 90s = bad animation. It's still win though. And I'm still trying to find the movies, so...
@HarryBillyBobGeorge The animation was bad not just because of low budget, but because everything was done using computers instead of models and was the first in all sci fi shows to produce each episode that way. By the end, JMS was offered more money for the show, but he turned it down, because it never was about the animations, it was about the characters and the story itself.
I'm not sure why you left Bruce out of your list though. He was one of the best actors in the show of everyone.
@Gallowell Strange that they didn't pass beyond the Rim. After a million years I should imagine that a number of new races were reaching the point of the "younger races" during the dawn of the Third Age.
And @HarryBillyBobGeorge didn't just miss out Bruce ;) Peter Jurasik as Londo was amazing. Some of the best moments of B5 would have been impossible without Londo and G'Kar.
@chrisktaylor There's a slight rift between Babylon 5 fans as to if humanity actually finally went beyond the Rim, but keeping with the story-arc (from the final episode of season 4) they just went to the Vorlon Homeworld.
There could be a lot of newer races, but then again, given that time is only what life deals with and not the galaxy, the galaxy probably wouldn't be as active as it was in the B5 universe for at least another 2 - 5 million years.
@Gallowell Hmm, I suppose you're right. A number of up-and-coming worlds (eg Corianna) would have been "cleansed" during the Vorlon purge of Shadow influences. Also, given that the Thirdspace gate was about a million years old, they're possibly still a bit young.
However, the galaxy is a finite size and given the constant territorial disputes it would make sense that the, now, older races move aside or things would become a bit cramped. Even in such a short period as a million years.
@Gallowell I forgot to mention my justification for the lack of space in the galaxy. The only other race confirmed as evolving, for want of a better word, were the Mimbari. So, that would mean that most, if not all, of the former league/ISA worlds are still around...
Damn, this has to be the best science fiction series I've ever seen :)
@chrisktaylor Not really, the Minbari were on the decline as a race. Remember at the beginning of Season 2 when Lennier said that there were less and less Minbari being born each year and those that were seemed lesser than the generation before. Of course you could assume that it was because the Minbari were on the cusp (a few hundred thousand years away) from becoming like the Vorlons.
@Fbueller129, that decline of the Minbari was explained and reversed in later seasons (I don’t want to spoil a VERY key element in the entire series for those who haven’t seen it yet). P.M. me if you want more details.
This was awsome! After being sent back to the dark ages thatnks to "the great burn" the Earth came back stronger and finally took it's place amongst the greatest to live in the universe by becoming nothing more than energy and having biological ships just like the Vorlons. I t was our time! The series should have ended there... But i still love every singe episode!
Minbari and Human to be more specific. The Narn and Centauri haven't reached the vorlon level yet. Still, I would love to see how far the narn and centauri reached and if they managed to get over their....history.
@giantrobots1122 surely the minbari had long since gone once we had got to that stage, because earth and the humans on it had to overcome "the great burn" setting us back to the dark ages! Giving them a 2000 year advantage. Although im not really surprised that the narn and centauri didn't find time to make it that far, but i'd like to think their history was finally settled. Btw how do you know it was only minbari and humans or are you just giving your own opinion? either way i like it
who knows, maybe if we somehow manage to survive another million years, we may shed our physical shells and evolve into energy beings. It would be awesome to be able to see far into the future. : )
@TargetRender that depends what the future holds? Can you imagine looking a million years into the future and seing all of space and energy adn creatures evolving and then finding out that the humans had long since gone, too busy constantly fighting themselves!
I always thought the bible sounded much like aliens visiting, and between the Dinosaurs and us there is 65 million years in between, I wonder what could had happen during that time...
I think the suit he goes into looks like one of those from the original Battlestar Galactica. Don't agree on it being the best ending but it was decent.
It's awsome how well they finished things. You got answers, saw how much the characters had evolved and it's amazing that Straczynski planed this all along. Fantastic..
It would be nice to think that the human race will continue to evolve to a state like this, and its nice to see in the show in a million years we are basically like the first ones..like Lorien, i wonder at that point..if we are in contact with Lorien and the first ones again? considering that basically we are the same now
@kimnice minbaris where not apart of the "First Ones" at least not in the same category as the vorlons and shadows. Minbaris where one of the first races of the new age to come but compared to the vorlons and shadows the where still babies
This was actually the first episode funded by TNT (production code 501), which means if TNT had not picked-up the show, this episode would have never happened
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Instead season 4 would have ended with Sleeping in Light.
I managed to see the episode this clip was from. It spans from Sheridan's day to when the sun novas. It is worth watching. I will say only that. IT IS WORTH WATCHING. It is beyond powerful.
@Swordsman808 well at what point do you have all the toys, perhaps in a million years, the question then becomes one of endurance or perhaps persistence, working and living as a civilization on the timescale of the stars themselves.
One needs to be aware that Season 4 was slated to be the end of the series despite JMS wanting to go a full 5 seasons...so this is quite an appropriate season finale in the sense as..if not for the hew and cry of the fans...it would have been the end of the show.
@ThePendrag0n You're mistaken. This episode "Deconstruction of Falling Stars": was filmed as production code 501 - it was the first episode created with TNT's funding
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Had TNT not purchased season 5, then this episode would have never happened - instead the finale would have been episode 422 - Sleeping in Light
"What about the other races? (First One ascension)
The Minbari eventually make it; the Narn and Centauri DO NOT. They DON'T DIE OUT, they just don't hit a state of First One-ishness, which is darn close to immortality (barring violence)."
It was quoted from JMS according to that site. Maybe I'm wrong, but I would like to think that G'Kar's grand-grand-grand-grand(...)son is still alive in the future, even if he is not a flying light bulb.
@RayTeso Ahhh... I thought the Narn and Centauri eventually go extinct. I wonder what they look like in 1 million years? Maybe they are similar to the Asgard in Stargate (who did eventually go extinct because they never ascended)
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It must be depressing to see the Minbari, Humans, and others become god-like beings while you remain a mere mortal Narn or Centauri, trapped in a prison of flesh
Humans became more like Lorien and do you understand that the human that got into the Armor like Vorlon looking thing. They soul went nova. The Earth's last human turn't into a First One like Lorien so they went beyond the rim so they didn't need to become like the Vorlons and Shadows. Actually I think this Human was from the Vorlon Homeworld.
So the Sun's only going to last another million years? I read that it was about halfway through a lifespan of about 10 billion years. Turns out we only had about 1/5000th of the time we thought we did.
From what I understand, something happened, and the Earth needs to be demolished, so they are destroying the sun, to wipe all signs of primitive human existence from the galaxy.
@PantsuGirl - Not quite. Humans & Minbari 'ascend' to become the first of the next group of 'First Ones', with the other races (mainly the Narn & Centauri) coming along shortly behind them. New Earth -is- the Vorlon Homeworld, however Earth sun goes nova due to events that occurred a few centuries after the Great Burn in a terrible tragedy, not something deliberate by humans. JMS hinted it was by the same process that caused the Dilgar star to go nova, and that it was likely Shadow 'leftovers'.
@Barricade You're mistaken. According to JMS the Narn and Centauri never ascend. In fact they die out. That is stated in the show several times - "They are a dying race"
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Yes it's sad but that's the official history in JMS' notes, which he shared with us online
this episode was utter cr@p and was NOT the ending it was a quick and dirty written episode they chucked in once they realised the show was going to run into season 5 and the orginal ending they made for season 4 was put on the backburner to be the season 5 ending. this episode was nothing more than a filler episode to fill a spot where the finale was originally going to be.
actually, the studios said that season 4 would be the last at the beginning of the season, then around te filiming of the last coupld f episodes, it was renewed for season 5. ANd in fact Season 4 was goingto be all shadow war, with Into the Fire being the Finale for season 4, and season 5 was going to be the earth civil war.
This episode was a good episode for how hastly it was written and put together.
Why do people OPINE when the Facts are posted online by JMS? Reference midwintercom where JMS says "Season 4 was originally planned to end with Sheridan's capture.. I moved it back 4 episodes to make room for Season 5's resolution of cliffhanger. So just a shift really."
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Also the studios did NOT say season 4 was the end. The studio said they would film season 5 if they could find someone to take the show. So it was UNCERTAIN status not canceled
@AmericanPoliceState The only reason i can see that would stop us is continuing to fight ourselves! Foolish behaviour ca only end badly, as the weapons get stronger and more efficient. If only we would put all our resources to getting into the stars then maybe we could be 'the first ones'.... Sadly i doubt we'll ever unify together and so that suggestion, that hope adn that dream dies...
@AmericanPoliceState no, because a species is shaped by natural selection. Also, human species will probably fragment at some point into different species due to isolation, like colonizing the nearest star system next to earth and staying isolated from earth long enough.
It's much more likely that there is not a race of human-ish aliens with crystal architecture called 'Minbari' than that there is. I think that's the point of this being science fiction and not prophecy.
I sincerely hope that our species (or a future off-shoot of it) survives and evolves to the point where we can discard our coporeal form and become god-like.
there's a canadian national film board vignette about some inuit people and a rcmp mountie with a twisted foot, the inuit are building a inushuk ( stone statue ) the mountie comes over to find out what they're doing , the mother tells the boy to tell him and she called him a anashok ( the rangers / the mounties ) ? kind of makes you think if something like that exists
Is it me or did a lot of these comments entirely miss the point of that last sequence? Or is the concept, hidden in plain sight so frightening to contemplate.
I thought it a brilliant ending. The universe did fold back upon itself....KOSH would be proud...I think.
Evolution is due to pressure. Since we are top of the food chain there is no more pressure from earthbound forces. Therefore the only way we will "evolve" is if we self-evolve - i.e. genetic manipulation.
Perhaps this is what happened. We bettered ourselves.
Example: Would is be easier to Terraform MARS or to simple change our own genetics (our future children that is) to be able to live in that environment? Exactly.
Evolution is not merely based on being on the top of the food chain - in fact, look at sharks and lions and then say we are at the top of the chain. Evolution is about your environment and 3 choices: either you adapt to it, you move to where you can survive or you die.
Simply because we control the world around us now doesn't mean we always will be able to.
Look at Krakatoa last century for example or Tsunguska (however it is spelled) in Russia.
you are forgetting the involvment of the genetic growth. we only have controll of what, 5? % of our brains... imagine the difference at 10... how about 50? and what if 100% became possible? telepaths exist not only in stories, but in rare freak occasions they have apeared in our time. they all have above normal brain activity. all humans have biomagnetic energy that can only be measured, but cant be explained yet. no, getting to the top of the food chain is not the problem. it's what to to after
No, I am not forgetting about that. And we use 10% of our brains, just to clarrify that for you. And as far as telepathy goes (now) while it's true no one knows what can be achieved if we are able to use more, there are no real instances or proof of people with such powers today, despite what stories people tell. Nothing has been proven by FACT and in the end, I am a man of science and wait to see the actual proof of someone displaying such powers.
It's more true to say that we use around 10% of our brains at one given time than to say we only ever use 10% and that the remaining 90% does nothing or is waiting for some time in the future to does some crazy shit :p
You do many things during the day, tasks, emotions, speech, thinking and then there are many shades and levels of the depth you do these things. That 10% is used all over your brain to do different things.
interesting idea, leaving aside telephats (do not know enough about this to pass on judgement)
i assume that usage of brain this low is for safety porpouses (the more its used the faster it deterorates). that is just my opinion tho i do not have anny evidence to back it up... it just makes sence to me this way.
@JOtruba There is some logic in saying that "i assume that usage of brain this low is for safety porpouses (the more its used the faster it deterorates).". But I and many others believe that we could will ourselfs to live longer and repair our bodies. It is a medical fact that the brain and power of positive thinking has a great deal of power of the physical body.
Although your point is well taken, your statment about only using 5-10% of your brain is a common misconception and it isn't true.
Every part of the brain has activity at various times of the day. Although the entire brain isn't working all over at the same time, there is no part of the brain that is "doing nothing" for most of our lives.
So, sorry to say, 100% of our brains are used. Try cutting out a piece at any random point and see what happens.
Strazinsky (spelling) said on the dvd that the sun is going nova due to an attack by the enemies of humanity. So now they are off to the old Vorlon home world.
Would be nice if someone did a new series or books on that.....but then again, leaving it open like this does have a ring of finality to it.
The ascended being does not look worried about the sun going nova. He almost appears calm. I reckon the First Ones are responsible for destroying the planet. They dont want the human race to end up like themselves.
Was it every explained who that guy is who gives Earth its final requiem? I mean the bald guy who becomes the energy being at the end...I know he is a ranger...is there anything else?
the meaning of the scene were told Babylon 5 dvd.1000 000 years from now people had evolved so much that they had become virtually vorlons. They are capable of energy transformation and use similar costumes as the vorlons.humans are not as sophisticated as vorlons. The sun died because someone had destroyed it, probably some of the human enemies. In fact, I thought of 3 dimensions, because they could have the technology to do it.
Ok, while I cannot say for sure or by any certainty about the budget, I really do not believe that budget had anything to do with it. I've seen enough episodes of Bab 5 to know that, like said by another poster, if they wanted to make him look different, they would have. I really believe all the were doing was keeping it simple.
As for Evolution. Why would he change form to the last evolved form of humanity?
Not everything in a story has to be about authenticity.
also, lorien chose a humanoid form that pleased him. its reasonable future humans chose their last coporeal form to represent the form that pleases them
1. They speak American English 1million years in the future?
2. Why do the humans still look unchanged/present day humans? In a million years, they would probably have elongated skulls and lost all their facial hair or something...
1. he spoke a language that the audience would understand... like TONS of other sci fi shows do.
2. He doesnt look human. his true form is the ball of light. He had a human form most likely to pay tribute to his ancestors while he was documenting history
The only thing I dont understand is if he can assume human form to do tasks, then why the encounter suite?
GenerationXT 3 weeks ago
@GenerationXT maybe the human form is more vulnerable?
endlessw 2 weeks ago
@GenerationXT Like the Vorlans, they hide away their true self from the younger races. Their true self is never known to these races because outside their suit they are vulnerable to attack. So to be able to teach, even if it is in a harsh way, they must protect themselves. The suit is the best way to do that. Remember, the first Vorlan, it talks about him getting hurt outside of his suit. It is the same concept here.
jedimaster30002000 1 week ago
Just watched this ending should i even watch series 5 because i feel it was a nice ending to the series, and i have heard mixed things about season 5!
Also i havent watche dthe movies yet as i heard there was no real reason watch them before the series, wich should i c first?
Thanks :P
Alterego001 1 month ago
Hes human but an evolved form when the two halves of our soul join ie human and mimbari. If you remember in season 5 the vorlon's homeworld is waiting for us but we must earn it and deserve it so thats the new earth he speaks of. The suit i imagine is both to conceal his true form and power and is an extension of the ship he flies. If you remember many times Kosh had to return to his ship to regenerate his power when consumed so its both for defensive and offensive purposes.
uriel73 1 month ago
Aside from the nova (not going to happen, wrong type of star), great ending for a great show.
AGTLI 4 months ago
@AGTLI According to JMS, the nova wasn't of "natural" origin.
BloodofPatriots 3 months ago
i didnt think much of this episode. though i think the idea of humans evolving into vorlons is good
MadEvilGeniusMatt42 4 months ago
My FAVOURITE!!!
78ashli 4 months ago
Loved the premise of this scene, but the impact was slightly lessened by having the character as a white guy in a skull-cap. What would have really sold this is if the character were multi-ethnic to the point of ambiguous, and female, or perhaps even a hermaphrodite.
BlackBeltJohnson 6 months ago
@BlackBeltJohnson
According to B5 canon he was a being of pure energy that chose to manifest in that particular physical form , he could of chosen any form, he chose that one.
Washu1973 3 months ago
@BlackBeltJohnson That only would have been more satisfying for a libtard.
tightlypackedcoil 2 months ago
@BlackBeltJohnson Does it really matter?? Stop being so damn P.C.
Kainlarsen 2 months ago
@Kainlarsen...Stop being so narrow-minded
BlackBeltJohnson 4 weeks ago
@BlackBeltJohnson Stop being such an anally retentive dumbass.
Kainlarsen 3 weeks ago
They should have just stuck with this as series finale season 5 was such a let down. I hated the new station commander. Ivanova should nave wound up as station commander.
SpockBorg5 7 months ago
@SpockBorg5
Claudia Christian and JMS could not agree on money or something like that. That is why she was replaced. It is also why she appears, and not the pouty lipped Lockley, in sleeping in the light where they blow up the station. it was filmed at the end of season 4 but used in season 5
Stubbee 5 months ago
Doesn't this mean that Vorlons were once humanoid cyclops?
jtplatinum 8 months ago
@jtplatinum
probably
SiriusMined 7 months ago
I wonder what things will be like of us in 1 million years, providing we don't blow our selfs up before then.
Spookssga 8 months ago
life would be so much cooler if we got to live in Babylon 5 time
xarcher46 10 months ago
@xarcher46 You never know old friend...that time may soon be upon us.
tatsuebo 7 months ago
it was nice to see that in so far a future that humans evolved into beings of energy and grew beyond what we are in the show, basically turning into human vorlons..was great.thanks for this
highlandwolf01 11 months ago
Ha! now it's the humans' turn to be douchbags like the Vorlons
CrypticWatcher 11 months ago 17
@CrypticWatcher I like to think there are a few visual clues as to our standing on the galactic custodians scale (it's all pure conjecture of course). While he uses an encounter suit, his energy form looks more akin to Lorien. My personal suspicion is that we are somewhere between the two. Pastoral figures with a slight focus on order (but not as constrictive as the Vorlons). A fusion of controlling and nurturing parent.
sword4thelord 1 month ago
@sword4thelord In essence, we all become Lorien, but with, perhaps, even more power
avernikas 1 month ago
I never got to see this part. LOVE IT! So sad the series ended.
zaphodthenth 11 months ago
For a long time i thot this was the ending. While Season 5 wasn't as good as the other season the ending there just felt better then the ending at the end of season 4 no real closer to the series with this end.
Dredhawk10 1 year ago
Larga Vida A Nod.
Merloock 1 year ago
this show was so fucking beautiful. I wish it was still on the air
supernuke 1 year ago
@supernuke it would've been, if TNT hadnt been dicks with no business sense.
cancelling Crusade because the viewers didnt watch their other shitty programs, instead of keeping the show to make the money from those viewers... it makes no sense to me. Millions of people watched B5, so what if they didnt watch the rest of your stupid offerings? You were still making millions from their viewership. Why throw it away? Morons, all of them.
hcvang 11 months ago
After the Vorlon and Shadows left, Sheridan and the other were attempting to strengthen themselve through technology, specifically they wanted to go to the Vorlon home world.
Sheridan was having a conversations with Lyta's about this, then her eyes went all "glowy" and she said the "The Vorlon home world is off limits, until you are ready, until you have earned the right to there. One million years from now".
Remember the Vorlon were experimenting on human.
sephius1999 1 year ago
i wonder how would see us a human from one millions year ahead
knighttemplar6 1 year ago
One thing is for sure: We will go extinct far earlier.
Evolution is working even now on us. But not to make us into beings of pure energy.
If we don´t invest massively in green energy we will lose our technology because fossile fuel runs out. We should also invest in fusion tech and geothermal energy.
pcuimac 1 year ago 2
@pcuimac sorry for replying on a 7-month old comment, but look up the ITER nuclear reactor. It's an international project to build a nuclear fusion generator prototype in France. They're expecting to have their first plasma (the core of a fusion process) up and running by 2019. If all goes well, they expect to have a reactor that actually powers something in place by 2030, and for nuclear fusion energy to be fully on the grid by mid 2040s.
name887 5 months ago
@name887 Yeah I know that. But I think "pure" science is massively underfunded.
The bankers print money to produce housing bubbles and create a financial collapse and then ask us if we really need more science funding esp. something "useless" things like the james web telescope.
It´s an absurd situation.
pcuimac 5 months ago
@pcuimac Then what about the start up of the LHC? That managed to get funding. Not to mention two in-progress satellites, the Solar Orbiter and the Euclid, each costing nearly a billion euros for the ESA to construct. Scientific research lives on.
name887 5 months ago
I loved this episode when I first saw it. I mean, who doesn't want to believe that we'll be around millions of years from now?
NateSean 1 year ago 14
@NateSean i dont want satanic murdering humans to be here now nevermind then
doingitnowoncemore 2 months ago
@doingitnowoncemore Too bad we won't be "humans" in the future anymore than we are apes now.
NateSean 1 month ago
pause at 0:15, that is so Cerebro. Steal from X-men!!!
kobi005 1 year ago
@kobi005 get a life
petrus4321 1 year ago
Anyway, my nit-picking aside, they do call the genre science-fiction for a reason. They are allowed to take some poetic license, and for the most part they did a lot more right than wrong...like ships actually behaving like they have mass for example. It also doesn't take away from the fact that B5 is one of the best sci-fi series ever.
Midan 1 year ago
I look forward to this future time of evolution into a being of light and energy, but with the capability to transform to a carbon based lifeform at will.
I hope you are all there with me when this happens to us.
Well, you never know...
Darr1066 1 year ago
one day we will get there =)
levitan71 1 year ago
When I saw this scene for the first time...it gave me goose bumps. Truly the best science fiction ever to be aired.
gorfjorf2112112 1 year ago
Yes, that our primative time is over and we become god-like at last ! Masters of space travel ! I hope that some day we do develope a way to make jump gates ! NASA know of over 500 worlds in the last 20 years..I´m sure there are millions more out there !! it is sad we have no way of humans travelling there at this moment in time..Our solar system seems to be the furthest we can go at the momeent. The Moon and Mars between 2010-2050..Unless we make a way of making space tavel alot faster !!!
davisgreen2020 1 year ago 2
I actually really moved by this the first time I saw it. I hope in a million years humanity is still around, in some form or another.
IAimToMisbehave42 1 year ago
I love B5, so I hate that they got this wrong. The Sun doesn't have sufficient mass to cause a nova. When the Sun runs out of hydrogen it will begin to expand into a red giant, destroying the Earth and the other inner planets. Once it runs out of usable fuel it will gradually lose mass and shrink into a white dwarf.
Midan 1 year ago
@Midan
They didn't get it wrong.
The computer detected a-typical readings increasing in intensity from the sun. Indicating that the sun did not die of natural causes (so to speak). :-) And besides the sun won't run out of fuel in one million years, it'll be around four to five billion years.
MaxiTitan 1 year ago
@Midan, uh, when a star in the same general class as our sun exhausts its hydrogen and expands into a red giant (actually ejecting its outer layers, which eventually drift on out leaving a white dwarf core that, after a VERY long time, cools down into a black cinder), that IS a nova.
You’re thinking SUPERnova, which is when a much larger star violently ejects its outer layers and its core collapses into either a neutron star or black hole, depending on how much mass remains.
COMALiteJ 1 year ago
@COMALiteJ Nope, that is not what a nova is. A Nova is smaller explosion relative to a supernova and only occurs in a binary star system where one of the stars has become a white dwarf and begins "stealing" matter from the other star. Eventually it builds up enough mass/pressure to trigger an explosion. That will not occur in our solar system since it is not a binary system.
Midan 1 year ago
Man, this is so prophetic. If mankind lives for another million years, we will evolve into light being and have no need for our vassal (body)
Athalston 1 year ago
@Athalston trouble is the way that our planet is at the moment, not to mention how we are treating it Earth will go tits up long before then, call me a pessimist but I'd be surprised if still life exists on this planet in a few thousand years let alone a million?
MrFreedomification 1 year ago
The best possible ending to the best season of the second best (Next to Stargate) Sci-Fi series of all time. I loved that episode. And I'm thrilled that earth re-achieved hyperspeed after "The Great Burn." But I thought the sun isn't going nova for another couple billion years! :P
HarryBillyBobGeorge 1 year ago
@HarryBillyBobGeorge Well, no one can blame you for thinking stargate is the best, since everyone has their own opinions. But you might want to keep that to yourself, when you're among avid B5 fanatics.
If you watch the entire series (plus the 'movie-sodes') you'll find out that humans made the sun go nova roughly 800,000 years - 1,000,000 millions after B5 storyline, and, depending on the B5 fan you talk with, left to make a new home on the Vorlon's original Homeworld.
Gallowell 1 year ago
@Gallowell Babylon 5 is still very good. It just had a low budget, and was made in the 90s. Low budget = bad animation, and bad actors (Minus G'Kar, Marcus, and Delenn). 90s = bad animation. It's still win though. And I'm still trying to find the movies, so...
HarryBillyBobGeorge 1 year ago
@HarryBillyBobGeorge The animation was bad not just because of low budget, but because everything was done using computers instead of models and was the first in all sci fi shows to produce each episode that way. By the end, JMS was offered more money for the show, but he turned it down, because it never was about the animations, it was about the characters and the story itself.
I'm not sure why you left Bruce out of your list though. He was one of the best actors in the show of everyone.
Gallowell 1 year ago
@Gallowell Strange that they didn't pass beyond the Rim. After a million years I should imagine that a number of new races were reaching the point of the "younger races" during the dawn of the Third Age.
And @HarryBillyBobGeorge didn't just miss out Bruce ;) Peter Jurasik as Londo was amazing. Some of the best moments of B5 would have been impossible without Londo and G'Kar.
chrisktaylor 1 year ago
@chrisktaylor There's a slight rift between Babylon 5 fans as to if humanity actually finally went beyond the Rim, but keeping with the story-arc (from the final episode of season 4) they just went to the Vorlon Homeworld.
There could be a lot of newer races, but then again, given that time is only what life deals with and not the galaxy, the galaxy probably wouldn't be as active as it was in the B5 universe for at least another 2 - 5 million years.
Gallowell 1 year ago
@Gallowell Hmm, I suppose you're right. A number of up-and-coming worlds (eg Corianna) would have been "cleansed" during the Vorlon purge of Shadow influences. Also, given that the Thirdspace gate was about a million years old, they're possibly still a bit young.
However, the galaxy is a finite size and given the constant territorial disputes it would make sense that the, now, older races move aside or things would become a bit cramped. Even in such a short period as a million years.
chrisktaylor 1 year ago
@Gallowell I forgot to mention my justification for the lack of space in the galaxy. The only other race confirmed as evolving, for want of a better word, were the Mimbari. So, that would mean that most, if not all, of the former league/ISA worlds are still around...
Damn, this has to be the best science fiction series I've ever seen :)
chrisktaylor 1 year ago
@chrisktaylor Not really, the Minbari were on the decline as a race. Remember at the beginning of Season 2 when Lennier said that there were less and less Minbari being born each year and those that were seemed lesser than the generation before. Of course you could assume that it was because the Minbari were on the cusp (a few hundred thousand years away) from becoming like the Vorlons.
Fbueller129 1 year ago 2
@Fbueller129, that decline of the Minbari was explained and reversed in later seasons (I don’t want to spoil a VERY key element in the entire series for those who haven’t seen it yet). P.M. me if you want more details.
COMALiteJ 1 year ago
What's that decal on the side of the ship?
laur3ooo 1 year ago
@laur3ooo The symbol of the rangers, the green stone, a minbari and a human.
GhostInTheShell29 1 year ago
This was awsome! After being sent back to the dark ages thatnks to "the great burn" the Earth came back stronger and finally took it's place amongst the greatest to live in the universe by becoming nothing more than energy and having biological ships just like the Vorlons. I t was our time! The series should have ended there... But i still love every singe episode!
andyc992 1 year ago
Minbari and Human to be more specific. The Narn and Centauri haven't reached the vorlon level yet. Still, I would love to see how far the narn and centauri reached and if they managed to get over their....history.
giantrobots1122 1 year ago
@giantrobots1122 surely the minbari had long since gone once we had got to that stage, because earth and the humans on it had to overcome "the great burn" setting us back to the dark ages! Giving them a 2000 year advantage. Although im not really surprised that the narn and centauri didn't find time to make it that far, but i'd like to think their history was finally settled. Btw how do you know it was only minbari and humans or are you just giving your own opinion? either way i like it
andyc992 1 year ago
@andyc992 Damned if I know. I could've sworn that JMS said Minbari and Humans have gone vorlon. :p
giantrobots1122 1 year ago
@giantrobots1122 JMS??
andyc992 1 year ago
@andyc992 j michael straczynski
giantrobots1122 1 year ago
@giantrobots1122 Wow i'd love to see that interview. Where did you see this?
andyc992 1 year ago
who knows, maybe if we somehow manage to survive another million years, we may shed our physical shells and evolve into energy beings. It would be awesome to be able to see far into the future. : )
TargetRender 1 year ago
@TargetRender that depends what the future holds? Can you imagine looking a million years into the future and seing all of space and energy adn creatures evolving and then finding out that the humans had long since gone, too busy constantly fighting themselves!
andyc992 1 year ago
So the Humans ended up Vorlonesque in the million year future?
Bla31n 1 year ago
@Bla31n yes.
HawkXe 1 year ago
I always thought the bible sounded much like aliens visiting, and between the Dinosaurs and us there is 65 million years in between, I wonder what could had happen during that time...
The ending blew me away, one of best scifi ever!!
Ramiromasters 1 year ago 2
@Ramiromasters correction, the best sci-fi ever* ;)
andyc992 1 year ago
KANE LIVES.
masteridiot123 1 year ago
have they been watching Gundam, Char Aznable continually reffers to earth as "the cradle"
mattmanganon 1 year ago
@mattmanganon As does Arthur C Clarke, David Brin, Robert Heinlein, Carl Sagan, etc and have done for years... not just some anime character.
gilesderoet 1 year ago
@gilesderoet fair nuff
mattmanganon 1 year ago
I think the suit he goes into looks like one of those from the original Battlestar Galactica. Don't agree on it being the best ending but it was decent.
bpnsirdiealot 1 year ago
It's awsome how well they finished things. You got answers, saw how much the characters had evolved and it's amazing that Straczynski planed this all along. Fantastic..
rebbe90h 1 year ago
I THINK THIS IS THE PART WHERE HUMANS BECAME LIKE VORLONS or like similar to THE ONES as they leave earth when it's sun finally turned super NOVA
ryancute22 1 year ago
The Beginning of the Forth Age of Mankind.
TheSecondEvolution 1 year ago
Love the ranger symbol on the ship at the end. We live for the One, and Die for the One.
smit1000 1 year ago
It would be nice to think that the human race will continue to evolve to a state like this, and its nice to see in the show in a million years we are basically like the first ones..like Lorien, i wonder at that point..if we are in contact with Lorien and the first ones again? considering that basically we are the same now
highlandwolf01 1 year ago
@highlandwolf01 I think we do. Lorien would probably have come back to guide the Human race and others to where the first ones have travelled.
dmspar70 1 year ago
@Swordsman808
Maybe we didn't get there naturally? Besides minbaris are also at "First One"-level. Besides not all of the "First Ones" are even energy beings..
kimnice 1 year ago
@kimnice The Technomages probably did their bit to help us ascend.
dmspar70 1 year ago
@dmspar70 Sorry but no, they got there tech from the shadows. With there defeat they are a Die breed.
uberkep 1 year ago
@kimnice minbaris where not apart of the "First Ones" at least not in the same category as the vorlons and shadows. Minbaris where one of the first races of the new age to come but compared to the vorlons and shadows the where still babies
clak4life 1 year ago
This was actually the first episode funded by TNT (production code 501), which means if TNT had not picked-up the show, this episode would have never happened
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Instead season 4 would have ended with Sleeping in Light.
harleykman 1 year ago 4
I managed to see the episode this clip was from. It spans from Sheridan's day to when the sun novas. It is worth watching. I will say only that. IT IS WORTH WATCHING. It is beyond powerful.
dkerris 1 year ago
@Swordsman808 well at what point do you have all the toys, perhaps in a million years, the question then becomes one of endurance or perhaps persistence, working and living as a civilization on the timescale of the stars themselves.
proadmin1 1 year ago
One needs to be aware that Season 4 was slated to be the end of the series despite JMS wanting to go a full 5 seasons...so this is quite an appropriate season finale in the sense as..if not for the hew and cry of the fans...it would have been the end of the show.
ThePendrag0n 1 year ago
@ThePendrag0n You're mistaken. This episode "Deconstruction of Falling Stars": was filmed as production code 501 - it was the first episode created with TNT's funding
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Had TNT not purchased season 5, then this episode would have never happened - instead the finale would have been episode 422 - Sleeping in Light
harleykman 1 year ago 9
@harleykman From The Lurker's Guide To Babylon 5:
"What about the other races? (First One ascension)
The Minbari eventually make it; the Narn and Centauri DO NOT. They DON'T DIE OUT, they just don't hit a state of First One-ishness, which is darn close to immortality (barring violence)."
It was quoted from JMS according to that site. Maybe I'm wrong, but I would like to think that G'Kar's grand-grand-grand-grand(...)son is still alive in the future, even if he is not a flying light bulb.
RayTeso 1 year ago 3
@RayTeso Ahhh... I thought the Narn and Centauri eventually go extinct. I wonder what they look like in 1 million years? Maybe they are similar to the Asgard in Stargate (who did eventually go extinct because they never ascended)
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It must be depressing to see the Minbari, Humans, and others become god-like beings while you remain a mere mortal Narn or Centauri, trapped in a prison of flesh
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harleykman 1 year ago
Humans became more like Lorien and do you understand that the human that got into the Armor like Vorlon looking thing. They soul went nova. The Earth's last human turn't into a First One like Lorien so they went beyond the rim so they didn't need to become like the Vorlons and Shadows. Actually I think this Human was from the Vorlon Homeworld.
timothywaynethomas 1 year ago
So the Sun's only going to last another million years? I read that it was about halfway through a lifespan of about 10 billion years. Turns out we only had about 1/5000th of the time we thought we did.
toddsmitts 2 years ago
From what I understand, something happened, and the Earth needs to be demolished, so they are destroying the sun, to wipe all signs of primitive human existence from the galaxy.
Krapenhoeffer 2 years ago
@toddsmitts
No, humans have ascended to higher plane of existence and moved to the Vorlon homeworld along with the Minbari, they then make Earth sun go nova.
According to Michael Straczynski
PantsuGirl 1 year ago
@PantsuGirl - Not quite. Humans & Minbari 'ascend' to become the first of the next group of 'First Ones', with the other races (mainly the Narn & Centauri) coming along shortly behind them. New Earth -is- the Vorlon Homeworld, however Earth sun goes nova due to events that occurred a few centuries after the Great Burn in a terrible tragedy, not something deliberate by humans. JMS hinted it was by the same process that caused the Dilgar star to go nova, and that it was likely Shadow 'leftovers'.
Barricade 1 year ago
@Barricade
Didnt know all the details, just said what i heard about it.
PantsuGirl 1 year ago
@Barricade You're mistaken. According to JMS the Narn and Centauri never ascend. In fact they die out. That is stated in the show several times - "They are a dying race"
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Yes it's sad but that's the official history in JMS' notes, which he shared with us online
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harleykman 1 year ago 5
this episode was utter cr@p and was NOT the ending it was a quick and dirty written episode they chucked in once they realised the show was going to run into season 5 and the orginal ending they made for season 4 was put on the backburner to be the season 5 ending. this episode was nothing more than a filler episode to fill a spot where the finale was originally going to be.
cybermods 2 years ago
actually, the studios said that season 4 would be the last at the beginning of the season, then around te filiming of the last coupld f episodes, it was renewed for season 5. ANd in fact Season 4 was goingto be all shadow war, with Into the Fire being the Finale for season 4, and season 5 was going to be the earth civil war.
This episode was a good episode for how hastly it was written and put together.
bluntman1138 2 years ago
@bluntman1138 Yet another wrong statement
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Why do people OPINE when the Facts are posted online by JMS? Reference midwintercom where JMS says "Season 4 was originally planned to end with Sheridan's capture.. I moved it back 4 episodes to make room for Season 5's resolution of cliffhanger. So just a shift really."
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Also the studios did NOT say season 4 was the end. The studio said they would film season 5 if they could find someone to take the show. So it was UNCERTAIN status not canceled
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harleykman 1 year ago 7
What gave the humans the right to destory the earth, other creatures life on the planet also. Just seems unfair really.
DextorSunrunner 2 years ago
Ummm, if you watch the entire episode, humans didnt destroy Earth. Our Sun, Sol, went Nova, destroying the inner planets.
bluntman1138 2 years ago
It would appear that humans became like the Vorlons. What is nice is that humanity finally survived after all.
jasong19711 2 years ago 2
so they become vorlon-like? Hope they don't act like them*remembers shadow war*
wolgreth 2 years ago
nobody is perfect.
jasong19711 2 years ago
OMG, I don't want humanity to look like a bald ginger!
In all seriousness though, I wish the series could come back in some form.
danta80 2 years ago 3
@danta80
It has and is, in the form of movie-sodes, the first of which is entitled Babylon 5: The Lost Tales.
gribae 2 years ago
@danta80 Perhaps it will again in another 20 years or so. But WHO they're going to get to play Londo Molari is another question.
proadmin1 1 year ago
It would be nice to know our species survives for a million years and longer.
AmericanPoliceState 2 years ago 33
@AmericanPoliceState
A million years, try 60, that how long we have been around ; )
LostAngel88 1 year ago
@AmericanPoliceState The only reason i can see that would stop us is continuing to fight ourselves! Foolish behaviour ca only end badly, as the weapons get stronger and more efficient. If only we would put all our resources to getting into the stars then maybe we could be 'the first ones'.... Sadly i doubt we'll ever unify together and so that suggestion, that hope adn that dream dies...
andyc992 1 year ago
@AmericanPoliceState no, because a species is shaped by natural selection. Also, human species will probably fragment at some point into different species due to isolation, like colonizing the nearest star system next to earth and staying isolated from earth long enough.
juggep80 1 year ago
@AmericanPoliceState
If our species in a million years all look like a bald middle aged dude with bad facial hair, maybe we would've been better off going extinct...
Intranetusa 1 year ago
Ha...he looks like "Imperious Leader" from the old Battlestar Galactica show in the 70's.
speedseduction 2 years ago
I think he looks like Kane from Command & Conquer. =)
Tarvoc 2 years ago 34
@Tarvoc In The Name Of Kane!
n1hmrd 1 year ago
@Tarvoc lol, well I suppose kane is supposed to be an immortal. Guess he fianlly won the war. LONG LIVE N.O.D
Conspiracy1789 1 year ago
@Tarvoc Well kane is supposed to be Immortal, he finally won the war. LONG LIVE N.O.D!
Conspiracy1789 1 year ago
@Tarvoc That's cause he is Kane! D: If only ;) that'd be hilarious :p
desolatesoul87 1 year ago
@Tarvoc So Nod did prevail!!
Rajalord27 1 year ago
@Tarvoc looks like murray from flight of the conchords.
hugeackman 1 year ago
@Tarvoc he does indeed:)
hornet1blue 1 year ago
Its much more likely we will be wiped out by war or disease then survive the next million years.
MegaJellopudding 2 years ago
It's much more likely that there is not a race of human-ish aliens with crystal architecture called 'Minbari' than that there is. I think that's the point of this being science fiction and not prophecy.
Elusareth 2 years ago
I sincerely hope that our species (or a future off-shoot of it) survives and evolves to the point where we can discard our coporeal form and become god-like.
def1ant00 2 years ago
Did you guys see the sign of the Rangers on the side of the Ship?
aldamokm 2 years ago 2
there's a canadian national film board vignette about some inuit people and a rcmp mountie with a twisted foot, the inuit are building a inushuk ( stone statue ) the mountie comes over to find out what they're doing , the mother tells the boy to tell him and she called him a anashok ( the rangers / the mounties ) ? kind of makes you think if something like that exists
niikodas 2 years ago
Is it me or did a lot of these comments entirely miss the point of that last sequence? Or is the concept, hidden in plain sight so frightening to contemplate.
I thought it a brilliant ending. The universe did fold back upon itself....KOSH would be proud...I think.
In Valen's name *chuckle*
ElegantPaws01 2 years ago
Ditto.
TechnomancerMorhion 2 years ago
You think they would have found a cure for hair loss by then.
redplague 2 years ago
Or they wouldn't care.
elfred1980 2 years ago
If they care about their looks enough to have a goatee then they care enough about being bald.
redplague 2 years ago 3
You know there isn't any universal law that say all people don't want to be bald?
nihlify 2 years ago
Of course, but I know he doesn't.
redplague 2 years ago
Evolution is due to pressure. Since we are top of the food chain there is no more pressure from earthbound forces. Therefore the only way we will "evolve" is if we self-evolve - i.e. genetic manipulation.
Perhaps this is what happened. We bettered ourselves.
Example: Would is be easier to Terraform MARS or to simple change our own genetics (our future children that is) to be able to live in that environment? Exactly.
xexorz 2 years ago 3
We still evolve during sexuel selection .
By the way is 2/3 of the worldpopulation linving under the poverty level. They have a way bigger struggle in their fight for living.
As you see, we do evolve.
shurednichso 2 years ago
Evolution is not merely based on being on the top of the food chain - in fact, look at sharks and lions and then say we are at the top of the chain. Evolution is about your environment and 3 choices: either you adapt to it, you move to where you can survive or you die.
Simply because we control the world around us now doesn't mean we always will be able to.
Look at Krakatoa last century for example or Tsunguska (however it is spelled) in Russia.
gribae 2 years ago 2
you are forgetting the involvment of the genetic growth. we only have controll of what, 5? % of our brains... imagine the difference at 10... how about 50? and what if 100% became possible? telepaths exist not only in stories, but in rare freak occasions they have apeared in our time. they all have above normal brain activity. all humans have biomagnetic energy that can only be measured, but cant be explained yet. no, getting to the top of the food chain is not the problem. it's what to to after
B0risTheBlade 2 years ago
No, I am not forgetting about that. And we use 10% of our brains, just to clarrify that for you. And as far as telepathy goes (now) while it's true no one knows what can be achieved if we are able to use more, there are no real instances or proof of people with such powers today, despite what stories people tell. Nothing has been proven by FACT and in the end, I am a man of science and wait to see the actual proof of someone displaying such powers.
gribae 2 years ago
It's more true to say that we use around 10% of our brains at one given time than to say we only ever use 10% and that the remaining 90% does nothing or is waiting for some time in the future to does some crazy shit :p
You do many things during the day, tasks, emotions, speech, thinking and then there are many shades and levels of the depth you do these things. That 10% is used all over your brain to do different things.
Karribu 2 years ago
interesting idea, leaving aside telephats (do not know enough about this to pass on judgement)
i assume that usage of brain this low is for safety porpouses (the more its used the faster it deterorates). that is just my opinion tho i do not have anny evidence to back it up... it just makes sence to me this way.
JOtruba 2 years ago
@JOtruba There is some logic in saying that "i assume that usage of brain this low is for safety porpouses (the more its used the faster it deterorates).". But I and many others believe that we could will ourselfs to live longer and repair our bodies. It is a medical fact that the brain and power of positive thinking has a great deal of power of the physical body.
sjgambrill 1 year ago
@B0risTheBlade
Although your point is well taken, your statment about only using 5-10% of your brain is a common misconception and it isn't true.
Every part of the brain has activity at various times of the day. Although the entire brain isn't working all over at the same time, there is no part of the brain that is "doing nothing" for most of our lives.
So, sorry to say, 100% of our brains are used. Try cutting out a piece at any random point and see what happens.
raith0818 2 years ago 2
the comment is "we only have controll of what, 5? % of our brains..."
meaning we control 5% of our neurological ability., very different from our only using 5%.
stmk0 2 years ago
i think he meant we use 5% of POTENTIAL of the brain
psobiers 2 years ago
@raith0818
"So, sorry to say"?
Neg, you aren't sorry. Don't bullshit unless you can get away with it.
gribae 2 years ago
The guy is just a human.
Strazinsky (spelling) said on the dvd that the sun is going nova due to an attack by the enemies of humanity. So now they are off to the old Vorlon home world.
Would be nice if someone did a new series or books on that.....but then again, leaving it open like this does have a ring of finality to it.
Armatige 2 years ago 2
The ascended being does not look worried about the sun going nova. He almost appears calm. I reckon the First Ones are responsible for destroying the planet. They dont want the human race to end up like themselves.
Banvards 2 years ago
Was it every explained who that guy is who gives Earth its final requiem? I mean the bald guy who becomes the energy being at the end...I know he is a ranger...is there anything else?
smcneal057 2 years ago
People moved vorlons home planet, because they were advanced enough, to gain access to it in now.
peter5194 2 years ago 3
the meaning of the scene were told Babylon 5 dvd.1000 000 years from now people had evolved so much that they had become virtually vorlons. They are capable of energy transformation and use similar costumes as the vorlons.humans are not as sophisticated as vorlons. The sun died because someone had destroyed it, probably some of the human enemies. In fact, I thought of 3 dimensions, because they could have the technology to do it.
peter5194 2 years ago 2
Ok, while I cannot say for sure or by any certainty about the budget, I really do not believe that budget had anything to do with it. I've seen enough episodes of Bab 5 to know that, like said by another poster, if they wanted to make him look different, they would have. I really believe all the were doing was keeping it simple.
As for Evolution. Why would he change form to the last evolved form of humanity?
Not everything in a story has to be about authenticity.
rpascuttini 2 years ago
also, lorien chose a humanoid form that pleased him. its reasonable future humans chose their last coporeal form to represent the form that pleases them
cavok84 2 years ago 2
I didn't like this ending that much because:
1. They speak American English 1million years in the future?
2. Why do the humans still look unchanged/present day humans? In a million years, they would probably have elongated skulls and lost all their facial hair or something...
Intranetusa 2 years ago
1. he spoke a language that the audience would understand... like TONS of other sci fi shows do.
2. He doesnt look human. his true form is the ball of light. He had a human form most likely to pay tribute to his ancestors while he was documenting history
cavok84 2 years ago 2
1. EXCEPT for the fact that they actually have the Minbari sometimes speaking the Minbari languages in B5!
2. Why did he pay tribute in that form? Why did the guy have a shaved head and fuzzy eyebrows?
It still makes no sense.
Intranetusa 2 years ago