@ImFasterThanTheStig I think he had tallent but then for some reason he lost it, if you remember his debut season in F1, he nearly won the world championship. The only person who has ever had a better debut season in f1 history, is Hamilton. After 97 he just seemed to go to peices though, true the cars he got after his WC wernt as competitive, but he just seemed to lose that edge he once had...
@StephanAltena i think button 6 pit stop a drive thru and also coming from the back of the pack at one point to win......................thats the best.......
@thiagoschumacher Can't deal with it? At least he didn't try and ram him off the road like Schumacher did to him in Spain. Now that was, "can't deal with it!"
22nd to 5th at monaco and actually pulled off some overtakes! Way better than Alonso's drive in 2010 who made up 18 positions because he switched to hard tyres on the first lap.
@ImFasterThanTheStig the only reason he won a Championship, was because his father was a good driver. after he died the team was giving all to him. nothing to do with his skills, he suxx
@TheMaroth So that's why David Donohue and Bruno Senna are champions? Oh wait. Dead relatives don't make you a champ. JV had legitimate skills, just not always the motivation and guidance to keep him on the right path.
@ImFasterThanTheStig Villeneuve basically lead the whole first grand prix he ever drove. Michael is better, yes, but don't put down Jacques Villeneuve, he's great aswell.
@hejda123 He barely won a championship in a clearly far superior car. The williams of 97 compared to the ferrari of 97 is like the mclaren in early 98.
@DeadbeatXT Well, Ferrari is far more dominant from that point and on, so Schumi has the advantage here. Like I said in my previous comment man, I'm not gonna take anything away from Schumi, he's probably the greatest F1 driver of all time, but Jacques is a hell of a driver too.
@ImFasterThanTheStig I think he was talented for sure but he squandered it and never acheived full potential after 1 champiopnship he was like 'yeah ok im done'
@ImFasterThanTheStig He's got a championship. More than colthard, webber, barrichello etc. He's forever on the f1 wall of fame and did us canadians proud.
@ImFasterThanTheStig Yea, he only won the F1 world championship over Schumacher, pissed Schummacher off so bad that Schumacher disgraced himself and the sport by trying to ram him off the road and did all this in a car his teammate (Heinz-Harald Frentzen) could only win one race and had HALF the points on the season. Indy 500 winner, Indycar world champion, F1 world champ. Legendary driver in two different racing leagues. True leaving Williams was a terrible move, but a gifted, amazing driver
@boombastic4eva It's also worth mentioning that JV had a dominant car in 1997, which was partly more than 1 second quicker than the rest of the field at the beginning of the season. And with such a car he was able to just win the WDC in the very last race. You call that pissing Schumacher off? I call that a lucky title. Taking HH Frentzen to highlight JV's performance doesn't help either. Because if MSC would've been his teammate, even u know how the story would have ended. Indy 500? F1 is ...
@boombastic4eva the highest class, indy 500 doesn't even come close to it. And even when he did leave Williams for a new team, if he would have been as outstanding as you are trying to make him look, there would've been plenty of great teams giving him a seat, but that wasn't the case. MSC also went to a team that hadn't won a title since 79 and was not finishing races and helped turning it into a winning team.
@DJTHY19 I don't think Gilles was there for a lot in Jacques carrier... Having a name could bring you in F3000, but it can't make you win titles. It could even bring you a drive in F1, but such driver might finish to look like Paul Belmondo (remember that?)
Also, the 1995 title in cart, don't underestimate it (many driver in cart that year could have been in F1 - Tracy, de Ferran, Unser Jr...). However, Jacques lack passion - he does not care that much about F1 ;)
1994 Indy 500 and CART rookie of the year, 1995 Indy 500 Winner, 1995 CART Indy Car Champion, Pole position in debut F1 race narrowlingly missing out on title in season finale and 1997 F1 World Champion. Yeah thats hardly the resume of a overrated driver....
@jc790 Well, first of all I said "in F1-history", so every other series is not relevant. Besides that, he had absolutely the best car on the grid in 96 and 97, and JUST managed to get the title in 97, battling with Michael until the very last race although the Ferrari was a dog of a car that particular year. After 97 he didn't show anything even being worth mentioning, so yeah, I stay with overrated. Extremely overrated.
Oh and Schumacher didn't have ther best car on the grid in 2000-2004? If you're going to bash Jacques for winning the title in the best car look no further than Schumi. The 2002 and F2004 Ferrari was lightyears ahead of everyone else, he had absolutely no competition. And Jacques didn't have the luxury of having tyres designed specifically for him like Bridgestone did for Schumacher. You schumacher fans amaze me.
@jc790 You are contradicting yourself. Schumacher had the best car in 2001,02, and 2004. So, 3 out of 7 titles were won in a dominant car, the 4 other titles were won in partly clearly (94,95) and partly less clearly inferior cars (2000,2003). You amaze me because of the fact that you totally overlook the fact how great Michael's performance was when he was just having the 3rd or 4th best car on the grid, he was still able to fight for the WDC (97,98), something JV simply wasn't able after 97.
After '97?!? Jacques had shit cars every year after '97. Nobody on planet fucking Earth could challenge for the title in the cars he had after 1997. Are you insane? Do you reallyy believe the Ferrari was the 3rd or 4th best car on the grid in 97 and 98? Did you honestly follow F1 back then? You're the dumbest fucking person i've ever encountered on youtube. The Ferrari was without doubt the 2nd best car in 97 and 98, even if Schumi hadn't been driving it.
@jc790 The Ferrari was not 2nd best car in 97 in terms of speed and aerodynamics, it was the McLaren which was better that year. In 1998, yeah, I give you that, it was the 2nd best car, but clearly inferior to both McLarens for most of the season. And once you compare the 1998 Williams to Schumacher's 1996 Ferrari, you'll see the difference between the two of them. Btw, why did JV had shit cars? Because the best teams didn't want to sign him. Why? Because he was not performing good enough.
Ok you obviously have not followed F1 for too many years. You say that no teams wanted him after 98? Very interesting. You see thats just false, and you would know that if you followed the sport years ago. After the 2000 season Flavio Briatore did in fact offer Jacques a Renault contract for either 01 or 02 onwards, but at the time BAR Honda and JV had just come off a very strong '00 season and Jacques decided to stay with the team.
@jc790 Look, just because my point of view doesn't suit you, it doesn't mean you have to claim I am not watching F1 for too many years (which is wrong). I could say the same about you claiming MSC had dominant cars from 2000-2004, while that wasn't the case in 2 of these 5 years. And at the time Flavio was offering JV a deal the (Benetton) Renault team was nothing more than a midfield-car, so basically you proved my point.
Oh yeah those Ferrari's in 00, 01 and 03 was a real piles of shit. Only somone as mega talented as Schumi would have been able to win the title in those cars. And at the time Flavio offered the contract to JV fpr the 01 season onwards, No top teams had any openings. Ferrari were locked with Michael and Rubens, Williams had signed JPM during the 2000 season, Mclaren still had Mika/DC for 01. So the Benetton Renault was the best of the rest of available seats.
@jc790 Those Ferraris in 00 and 03 were decent cars, but the Ferraris in 96 and 97 were shit, still he was able to win various races and in 97 he was even fighting for the WDC until the very last race.
And yeah, the Benetton was the best of the rest - but if JV would have been outstanding, someone like David Coulthard would have been replaced by him.
Mclaren were quite happy with DC in 2000-2001, they wouldn't have gotten rid of him for anybody-absolutley nobody. So this notion of yours that if JV was so talented why didn't mclaren go after him is ridiculous. As I said, all top teams were completely locked and the benetton renault contract for 01- was the best available. And we all saw where that team ended up, wdc's in 05-06. The team was on the rise, but you can't blame JV for staying at Honda given their past histo
@jc790 What about 99? After a pretty disappointing 98 season for Coulthard McLaren decided to keep him for 99.
And in 2000/01/02 noone could imagine what would happen to Renault, that's why the happenings in 2005 and 2006 are irrelevant. What matters is how competitive the Renault was in the year when Flavio showed interest in JV, and as we both know they weren't too competitive at that time.
The 00 Ferrari was a top car. Early in the season it had both the pace and the reliability (Hakkinen retired from the first two races). Also judging by Schumacher's 9 poles that season (his record up to that point and only bettered by his personal record of 11 in 2001) and Barrichello's 1. The 03 Ferrari was probably the overall best package too. Barrichello won twice with it and was on pole 3 times (and he would have won the Brazilian GP to if not for trouble).
@McLarenMercedes Why do you change the topic now? Last time the topic was JV and why there wasn't any top-team signing him for 1999, now you change to the Ferrari times again. Of course the 96 and 97 Ferrari were shit, just look how many wins Eddie Irvine achieved with these two cars. None. How many podiums? 6 in two seasons. No poles, no fastest laps. Clearly shows the potential of these two cars. Michael made them look much better that they were.
Neither the 96 nor 97 Ferrari's were shit. It was no Williams but still way better than the '96 McLaren. The 1992 Ferrari was shit, so were the 1980 and 1973 ones. I seem to recall Irvine qualifying 3rd in Melbourne 1996 (ahead of Schumacher) so it clearly had lots of potential (if not reliability).
Now Schumacher managed 4 poles in 1996. Considering he only managed 7 poles with the totally dominant 2002 Ferrari (Montoya managed 7 in the Williams) the '96 Ferrari was good
@McLarenMercedes I never denied the Ferrari F1-2000 was a great car, but in terms of speed and aerodynamics the McLaren was still ahead. And guess which car took pole in the first 3 races? The only problem with that McLaren was its poor reliability, but at least it never broke down on the warm up lap to a GP, if u know what I refer to ;)
The Ferrari F2003 was not very keen to its tyres, which caused problems for Michael in the races, so calling this the best package, is a bit overrated IMHO.
@ImFasterThanTheStig overrated? I have never heard anybody telling something good about him, and only few times he drove good races with medium fast cars, only in 96,97 when he had a powerful Williams-Renault he won races and a championship, only those 2 years people were talking good about him and his talent, after that he was nothing to everybody, so I don't think that he is overrated.
wow seems like j. villeneuve and d. hill share 14 youtube-accounts ;)
Srga91 1 week ago
This is how you overtake at Ste Devote... Take note Hamilton...
FormulaOneFan4Eva 2 weeks ago
Back when F1 where real fair racing. nowdays its fuckin bullshit with the DRS and KERS. its basically cheating
600etecXRS 1 month ago
no description available is fucking right
quasiphatpaul 2 months ago
God those cars looked spectacular in the old Marlboro livery.
cmccarthy 2 months ago
Once a dick always a dick
WakeUpDummies 2 months ago
J.Villeneuve, one of the most wasted talents in F1 history.
giovannighaly 3 months ago
this is debatable. but I understand. you're probably a secret fan of Sakon Yamamoto!
redupfox 3 months ago
J villeneuve probably one of the fastest ever ,
1255r3 3 months ago
And he didn't have to hit him this time.
wks1978 3 months ago
i wish it was 2004, when F1 was so fucking amazing to watch
i sat with my fatheror with some friends in front of the tv
it was sooo awesome!
OMGGP 4 months ago
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@ImFasterThanTheStig I think he had tallent but then for some reason he lost it, if you remember his debut season in F1, he nearly won the world championship. The only person who has ever had a better debut season in f1 history, is Hamilton. After 97 he just seemed to go to peices though, true the cars he got after his WC wernt as competitive, but he just seemed to lose that edge he once had...
Phoenix1664 4 months ago
@esukem I can top that: Barrichello 18th to win at the german grand prix 2000 :P
StephanAltena 5 months ago
@StephanAltena i think button 6 pit stop a drive thru and also coming from the back of the pack at one point to win......................thats the best.......
PetriLindroosRF 4 months ago
Power of an Master, poor villeneuve, can't deal with.
thiagoschumacher 5 months ago 4
@thiagoschumacher Can't deal with it? At least he didn't try and ram him off the road like Schumacher did to him in Spain. Now that was, "can't deal with it!"
boombastic4eva 4 months ago
@esukem sorry dude my bad ..yes u right .. I thought that u meant in general
delsultano 6 months ago
@esukem and webber from 18th to 3rd
delsultano 6 months ago
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what about Simon Lurf?!?!
Lexinho90 7 months ago
22nd to 5th at monaco and actually pulled off some overtakes! Way better than Alonso's drive in 2010 who made up 18 positions because he switched to hard tyres on the first lap.
Anime998877 7 months ago 90
@Anime998877 and how are those races comparable..?
Thoragz 4 months ago
@Anime998877 yeah and in the end shumacher overtook alonso! and I still believe that move was fair!
GangstaDogg21 3 months ago
J. Villeneuve, one of the most overrated driver in F1 history. And I'm not judging because of this overtake.
ImFasterThanTheStig 10 months ago 171
@ImFasterThanTheStig Haha if you say so!
Davetheravepow 9 months ago
@ImFasterThanTheStig thats sooo true!
8kuh 8 months ago
@ImFasterThanTheStig the only reason he won a Championship, was because his father was a good driver. after he died the team was giving all to him. nothing to do with his skills, he suxx
TheMaroth 6 months ago
@TheMaroth So that's why David Donohue and Bruno Senna are champions? Oh wait. Dead relatives don't make you a champ. JV had legitimate skills, just not always the motivation and guidance to keep him on the right path.
gturner38 6 months ago
@ImFasterThanTheStig I rate him as the worst world champion ever really; he's an insult to his father. And that's me overrating him.
raymondu99 6 months ago
@ImFasterThanTheStig Villeneuve basically lead the whole first grand prix he ever drove. Michael is better, yes, but don't put down Jacques Villeneuve, he's great aswell.
hejda123 6 months ago
@hejda123 He barely won a championship in a clearly far superior car. The williams of 97 compared to the ferrari of 97 is like the mclaren in early 98.
DeadbeatXT 6 months ago
@DeadbeatXT Well, Ferrari is far more dominant from that point and on, so Schumi has the advantage here. Like I said in my previous comment man, I'm not gonna take anything away from Schumi, he's probably the greatest F1 driver of all time, but Jacques is a hell of a driver too.
hejda123 6 months ago
@ImFasterThanTheStig I think he was talented for sure but he squandered it and never acheived full potential after 1 champiopnship he was like 'yeah ok im done'
TheAdams2006 6 months ago
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Phoenix1664 4 months ago
@ImFasterThanTheStig He's got a championship. More than colthard, webber, barrichello etc. He's forever on the f1 wall of fame and did us canadians proud.
DBDMotorsports 4 months ago
@ImFasterThanTheStig Very strong in the first 2 years. After, he's never had good cars...
Enri1989 4 months ago
@ImFasterThanTheStig Yea, he only won the F1 world championship over Schumacher, pissed Schummacher off so bad that Schumacher disgraced himself and the sport by trying to ram him off the road and did all this in a car his teammate (Heinz-Harald Frentzen) could only win one race and had HALF the points on the season. Indy 500 winner, Indycar world champion, F1 world champ. Legendary driver in two different racing leagues. True leaving Williams was a terrible move, but a gifted, amazing driver
boombastic4eva 4 months ago
@boombastic4eva It's also worth mentioning that JV had a dominant car in 1997, which was partly more than 1 second quicker than the rest of the field at the beginning of the season. And with such a car he was able to just win the WDC in the very last race. You call that pissing Schumacher off? I call that a lucky title. Taking HH Frentzen to highlight JV's performance doesn't help either. Because if MSC would've been his teammate, even u know how the story would have ended. Indy 500? F1 is ...
ImFasterThanTheStig 4 months ago 3
@boombastic4eva the highest class, indy 500 doesn't even come close to it. And even when he did leave Williams for a new team, if he would have been as outstanding as you are trying to make him look, there would've been plenty of great teams giving him a seat, but that wasn't the case. MSC also went to a team that hadn't won a title since 79 and was not finishing races and helped turning it into a winning team.
ImFasterThanTheStig 4 months ago
@ImFasterThanTheStig hill is the more overratet one...
imleafer 3 months ago 3
@ImFasterThanTheStig It's because of his father : G. Villeneuve
DJTHY19 3 months ago
@DJTHY19 I don't think Gilles was there for a lot in Jacques carrier... Having a name could bring you in F3000, but it can't make you win titles. It could even bring you a drive in F1, but such driver might finish to look like Paul Belmondo (remember that?)
Also, the 1995 title in cart, don't underestimate it (many driver in cart that year could have been in F1 - Tracy, de Ferran, Unser Jr...). However, Jacques lack passion - he does not care that much about F1 ;)
therrydicule 3 months ago
@ImFasterThanTheStig Yea yea, you know so much about driving an F1 car.
ftp2leta 3 months ago
@ImFasterThanTheStig
1994 Indy 500 and CART rookie of the year, 1995 Indy 500 Winner, 1995 CART Indy Car Champion, Pole position in debut F1 race narrowlingly missing out on title in season finale and 1997 F1 World Champion. Yeah thats hardly the resume of a overrated driver....
jc790 3 months ago
@jc790 Well, first of all I said "in F1-history", so every other series is not relevant. Besides that, he had absolutely the best car on the grid in 96 and 97, and JUST managed to get the title in 97, battling with Michael until the very last race although the Ferrari was a dog of a car that particular year. After 97 he didn't show anything even being worth mentioning, so yeah, I stay with overrated. Extremely overrated.
ImFasterThanTheStig 3 months ago
@ImFasterThanTheStig
Oh and Schumacher didn't have ther best car on the grid in 2000-2004? If you're going to bash Jacques for winning the title in the best car look no further than Schumi. The 2002 and F2004 Ferrari was lightyears ahead of everyone else, he had absolutely no competition. And Jacques didn't have the luxury of having tyres designed specifically for him like Bridgestone did for Schumacher. You schumacher fans amaze me.
jc790 3 months ago
@jc790 You are contradicting yourself. Schumacher had the best car in 2001,02, and 2004. So, 3 out of 7 titles were won in a dominant car, the 4 other titles were won in partly clearly (94,95) and partly less clearly inferior cars (2000,2003). You amaze me because of the fact that you totally overlook the fact how great Michael's performance was when he was just having the 3rd or 4th best car on the grid, he was still able to fight for the WDC (97,98), something JV simply wasn't able after 97.
ImFasterThanTheStig 3 months ago
@ImFasterThanTheStig
After '97?!? Jacques had shit cars every year after '97. Nobody on planet fucking Earth could challenge for the title in the cars he had after 1997. Are you insane? Do you reallyy believe the Ferrari was the 3rd or 4th best car on the grid in 97 and 98? Did you honestly follow F1 back then? You're the dumbest fucking person i've ever encountered on youtube. The Ferrari was without doubt the 2nd best car in 97 and 98, even if Schumi hadn't been driving it.
jc790 3 months ago
@jc790 The Ferrari was not 2nd best car in 97 in terms of speed and aerodynamics, it was the McLaren which was better that year. In 1998, yeah, I give you that, it was the 2nd best car, but clearly inferior to both McLarens for most of the season. And once you compare the 1998 Williams to Schumacher's 1996 Ferrari, you'll see the difference between the two of them. Btw, why did JV had shit cars? Because the best teams didn't want to sign him. Why? Because he was not performing good enough.
ImFasterThanTheStig 3 months ago
@ImFasterThanTheStig
Ok you obviously have not followed F1 for too many years. You say that no teams wanted him after 98? Very interesting. You see thats just false, and you would know that if you followed the sport years ago. After the 2000 season Flavio Briatore did in fact offer Jacques a Renault contract for either 01 or 02 onwards, but at the time BAR Honda and JV had just come off a very strong '00 season and Jacques decided to stay with the team.
jc790 3 months ago
@jc790 Look, just because my point of view doesn't suit you, it doesn't mean you have to claim I am not watching F1 for too many years (which is wrong). I could say the same about you claiming MSC had dominant cars from 2000-2004, while that wasn't the case in 2 of these 5 years. And at the time Flavio was offering JV a deal the (Benetton) Renault team was nothing more than a midfield-car, so basically you proved my point.
ImFasterThanTheStig 3 months ago
@ImFasterThanTheStig
Oh yeah those Ferrari's in 00, 01 and 03 was a real piles of shit. Only somone as mega talented as Schumi would have been able to win the title in those cars. And at the time Flavio offered the contract to JV fpr the 01 season onwards, No top teams had any openings. Ferrari were locked with Michael and Rubens, Williams had signed JPM during the 2000 season, Mclaren still had Mika/DC for 01. So the Benetton Renault was the best of the rest of available seats.
jc790 3 months ago
@jc790 Those Ferraris in 00 and 03 were decent cars, but the Ferraris in 96 and 97 were shit, still he was able to win various races and in 97 he was even fighting for the WDC until the very last race.
And yeah, the Benetton was the best of the rest - but if JV would have been outstanding, someone like David Coulthard would have been replaced by him.
ImFasterThanTheStig 3 months ago
@ImFasterThanTheStig
Mclaren were quite happy with DC in 2000-2001, they wouldn't have gotten rid of him for anybody-absolutley nobody. So this notion of yours that if JV was so talented why didn't mclaren go after him is ridiculous. As I said, all top teams were completely locked and the benetton renault contract for 01- was the best available. And we all saw where that team ended up, wdc's in 05-06. The team was on the rise, but you can't blame JV for staying at Honda given their past histo
jc790 3 months ago
@jc790 What about 99? After a pretty disappointing 98 season for Coulthard McLaren decided to keep him for 99.
And in 2000/01/02 noone could imagine what would happen to Renault, that's why the happenings in 2005 and 2006 are irrelevant. What matters is how competitive the Renault was in the year when Flavio showed interest in JV, and as we both know they weren't too competitive at that time.
ImFasterThanTheStig 3 months ago
@ImFasterThanTheStig
The 00 Ferrari was a top car. Early in the season it had both the pace and the reliability (Hakkinen retired from the first two races). Also judging by Schumacher's 9 poles that season (his record up to that point and only bettered by his personal record of 11 in 2001) and Barrichello's 1. The 03 Ferrari was probably the overall best package too. Barrichello won twice with it and was on pole 3 times (and he would have won the Brazilian GP to if not for trouble).
McLarenMercedes 3 months ago
@McLarenMercedes Why do you change the topic now? Last time the topic was JV and why there wasn't any top-team signing him for 1999, now you change to the Ferrari times again. Of course the 96 and 97 Ferrari were shit, just look how many wins Eddie Irvine achieved with these two cars. None. How many podiums? 6 in two seasons. No poles, no fastest laps. Clearly shows the potential of these two cars. Michael made them look much better that they were.
ImFasterThanTheStig 3 months ago
@McLarenMercedes
No no, the Ferrari was no better than the Mclaren in 1996 and 1997. And much better in 1998, better in 1999 and 2000.
But because Schumacher was with Ferrari, Ferrari looked ahead. Remenber it was Schumacher vs Coulthard or Hakkinen.
I'm fully conviced Schumacher would have fought for the title in a Mclaren in 1997.
SchumiSutil 3 months ago
@ImFasterThanTheStig
Neither the 96 nor 97 Ferrari's were shit. It was no Williams but still way better than the '96 McLaren. The 1992 Ferrari was shit, so were the 1980 and 1973 ones. I seem to recall Irvine qualifying 3rd in Melbourne 1996 (ahead of Schumacher) so it clearly had lots of potential (if not reliability).
Now Schumacher managed 4 poles in 1996. Considering he only managed 7 poles with the totally dominant 2002 Ferrari (Montoya managed 7 in the Williams) the '96 Ferrari was good
McLarenMercedes 3 months ago
@McLarenMercedes I never denied the Ferrari F1-2000 was a great car, but in terms of speed and aerodynamics the McLaren was still ahead. And guess which car took pole in the first 3 races? The only problem with that McLaren was its poor reliability, but at least it never broke down on the warm up lap to a GP, if u know what I refer to ;)
The Ferrari F2003 was not very keen to its tyres, which caused problems for Michael in the races, so calling this the best package, is a bit overrated IMHO.
ImFasterThanTheStig 3 months ago
@ImFasterThanTheStig overrated? I have never heard anybody telling something good about him, and only few times he drove good races with medium fast cars, only in 96,97 when he had a powerful Williams-Renault he won races and a championship, only those 2 years people were talking good about him and his talent, after that he was nothing to everybody, so I don't think that he is overrated.
katticeman 2 weeks ago
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WOW. schumacher can overtake WITHOUT hitting another driver!!! was it a new cheat in his ferrari powered by brawn?
YklausK 10 months ago
@YklausK Ur an idiot
moxepa 9 months ago 6
This time he didn't hit Villeneuve ;)
Diablotindechap4 11 months ago
you really have to have some balls to take a risk like that.
WhenWorldsCollide91 11 months ago
@WhenWorldsCollide91 and a set of great mastership in addition to the cojones ^^
metal502 8 months ago
@WhenWorldsCollide91 that's what I was thiking!
tiagusmm2 8 months ago
best f1 overtake ever!
kiataniwtis 1 year ago
Yeah!
DarthSparhawk 1 year ago 3