12 Grandes Etudes No.12 - Franz Liszt

[joaquindalessio]

OH COME ON EVERYBODY... IS A FIRST VERSION OF "CHASSE NEIGE"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[mountainmanchuck]

5:30 Ricordanza!!!!

[esprankle]

This piece deeply moves my heart.

[FranzLisztFerentz]

I would need two hands more to play this... lol

[TripleRhu]

Beautiful and immense. I love it.

[2hyeok]

it's okay guys the onlt thing you need is 8 legs and arms and just another millenium :)

[LordKaninchen]

genius... and great performance

[Bochum96]

I don't like Howards interpretations.... Muuuuch toooo slow

[classicalhero7]

@Bochum96 Any faster and his fingers will fall off.

[kzelmer]

@Bochum96

Show me one rendition of this Grandes Etudes faster than Howard... Oh wait! Only Howard recorded the set!

[fabptitpom]

@kzelmer Idil Biret recorded the set as well.

[DanMarcy1]

@fabptitpom also Janice Weber and Massimo Gon, with every single one leaving a lot to be desired.

[TheProNinjaz]

this isnt the 12th grand etude is it? Chasse Neige is the 12th wtf?

[liszt141]

@TheProNinjaz This is indeed the 12th grand. The 12th etude didn't become Chasse Neige until the third version the Transcendental etudes. This is the 2nd version.

[TheProNinjaz]

@liszt141 ahh i see, thanks

[liszt141]

@TheProNinjaz no prob

[scriabinish]

Brutal, brutal playing. It's like he's sight reading. Not in a good way.

[FfSpgfLerWhd]

Although No.12 is technically-easy, but the harmonic has the most profundity among the others. I like this piece the most:)

[TristanMon100]

lisztomania :)

[micheltennil]

Liszt a composé trois versions de Chasse Neige. Il s'agit ici de la seconde, magistralement interprétée par Leslie Howard. Cette page comporte des difficultés techniques plus redoutables encore que la version de concert. Claudio Arrau déclarait qu'à sa connaissance, aucun artiste ne s'était jamais risqué à la donner en récital.

[Piggywarz]

one of the easier etudes in the set!

[TheGerman6th]

I can't even comprehend how one might play this piece !

[MrStrav81]

This is a former version of Chasse-neige.

[thegreatapologist]

Hmm.. My one criticism of this great performance of this difficult piece would be that it would sound better if the final chord in the cadence had the low note accented as opposed to the high note. But that's just my preference. Magnificent! Thank you for making this music available!

[TJniby1026lala]

I love both versions. it sounds similar but this has way more notes to play with.

[lindenly22]

This piece that came out of what was the 12th Transcendental Etude, which has its title, "Chasse-neige.", keeps about 82-83 percent of the material in that revision in 1850 or so. The 1838 version of this etude is very good operatic-wise but sadly, it lacks the running chromatic scales that would definitely depict the snowstorm's winds howling in the white, cloudy sky. No wonder this 12th "Grand Study" is rather rare for a Franz Liszt piece.

[davidovich00]

this is fantastic :O is it hard?

[huntudown4]

I play clarinet, just to clarify, I like this  song, but it looks about impossible. I'm in a school percussion ensemble and I play many keyboard instruments, but this looks very challenging.

[thegreatapologist]

@huntudown4 There are harder songs, but this is pretty up there.

[ralrose91]

@Ally123234

Those lucky few!

[toorimaSMG]

it sucks so bad that i cant read music... i got a keabord a cuple of years ago for christmas and i was saposed to get lesons for my bithday but we couldnt aford it so im stuck playing it by ear....its so limiting :(

[SlyStallone208]

@toorimaSMG Teach yourself for the time being... that's what I'm doing. Just be sure to film yourself and watch/scrutinize your technique at all times.

[Gibson29]

@toorimaSMG It does not take long to learn to read music. Its much simpler than people think.

[scriabinish]

@Gibson29 Totally agree. This is a ton easier than the reworked version. Too bad listening to Leslie Howard play is like listening to Lang Lang bounce down a long flight of wooden stairs.

[BubbleRoad]

im very impressed how he could play those notes so quite that it seems like small raindrops would fall down from the sky (or snowflakes) :P

[SlyStallone208]

@BubbleRoad I second that; I prefer (very much so) the Transcendental version even though this may be harder (I'm not sure). Those chromatic scales are missed here! :P

[addeex1]

@SlyStallone208 No they aren't missed, they're actually added in the T E

[SlyStallone208]

@addeex1 Yes, I know. I meant that I "miss" hearing the chromatic scales from the transcendental version in this earlier version.

[onepiece5973]

This music is good.

But, I am slightly disappointed beause I like chromatic scale on the way. This music haven't it. That suggests that snow rages.

[ralrose91]

Liszt has skills. But, there's one big problem to creating music so epic that only Liszt could play it.

No-one else can! I guess that's what makes it so beautiful.

[Ally123234]

@ralrose91 Well, him, and the person playing now.. And several other pianists

[chutdigadut]

This is AMAZING for soo many reasons!

[theromanpraetorian]

i am in heaven

[nelsyeung]

this piece is really really beautiful. :) hehe I personally like the transcendental version more. :P

[chopinandliszt]

is this the three-hand-effect technique Liszt's rival, Thalberg mastered?

[Egide0]

Yes, precisely. But this three-hand-effect is used a lot more in Mazeppa. Indeed Thalberg was the master of this technique. If you listen to his Moses Fantasy, you can clearly hear three hands! The good thing about Liszt is that he mastered all his rivals' piano aspects and techniques. Like when Chopin took published his etudes, Liszt was the first to master them.

[chopinandliszt]

Yeah, Liszt, played them from sight, and Chopin said he wished he could steal Liszt's way to play his etudes. Liszt was legendary.

[Egide0]

Cool...I didn't know that part!

[hellomate639]

I'm glad Liszt revised this and came up with Chasse Neige.

[Marcelo721]

Totally in accord!

[asmanyaspossible]

I love this. Beautiful. Gosh, wish I could play it.

[addeex1]

hmm, He play´s it kinda slowely :S

[GustavMinski]

I agree, just without the e in slowly.

[kastlesucks]

It is a study in tremolos, trills and jumps.

[Barnaldomort]

I thought this was chasse neige?

a sonata? or a concerto without an orchestra?

[addeex1]

Nope, it´s the Transcendental Etudes, that's called like that :D

[chopinandliszt]

what are you talking about, nazhiitoxx? You think this is not a study but a sonata or a "Concerto without Orchestra"? I don't know whether you meant to say it sounds like a sonata or concerto, but we can't call a piece a sonata just because it's large and densely harmonic. (like a concerto). It has to be in sonata-form. The title, Study is more suitable because of its technical difficulties. Liszt named it "Study", you think it's a sonata?

[chopinandliszt]

take Mozart's Sonata Facile (Kv 545) for example. Should this be grouped with them? I don't think so. Complicated harmonic structure doesn't make a piece "sonata". It has to be in sonata-form. As for the idea of "concerto", I don't know of any piece that's originally written for a single instrument and named "concerto" or "concerto without orchestra". Chopin's concerto no.2 can be played without orchestra, for example, but it was originally written for the orchestra also.

[xiangyik]

Alkan does have a concerto for solo piano :).

[Marcomedina]

Yeah, and I think I've seen other composers make concertos sans orchestra as well...

[TheWanderingNight]

@xiangyik Not trying to make a point or anything, but superficially, parts of this does resemble Alkan's Adagio movement from the Concerto. Just saying.

[robertogonzfranc]

@xiangyik liszt-Grosses Konzertsolo

[robertogonzfranc]

@robertogonzfranc liszt-Grosses Konzertsolo

[Desmonddd2002]

1:13 it starts Chasse Neige.

Stupid, maybe it is not so boring at all, man, you just don't have the patients to listen to classical music man,

[OverFjell]

Howard is the worst interpretor of Liszt I have ever heard. Everything he plays sounds so boring.

[Desmonddd2002]

I actually think that she did pretty good on building the climax, you can clearly tell it in this piece.

[georgecziffra]

Leslie Howard is a male. And I think he did well in this piece. He is very good with Liszt, considering he's recorded the entire solo piano works of Liszt.

[Aul1kki]

Not all of them. For example GE 10 and 2 is in my opinion even better than TE versions.

[chopinandliszt]

Aul1kki, I do agree that GE2 is better than TE2 in terms of musical expressions, (They are indeed, more numerous and original and create a "firework" effect), but I don't think TE10 is worse than GE10. People like enricol say Liszt intended to get a march into GE10. It's an interesting idea, but he also says TE10 is admittedly more "flowing" and should be played in addition to GE10.

[Tiszt]

prefer the final version, a little bit clumsy and maybe easier

[stringendo]

My most favorite piece in Liszt etude d'execution transcendante. And I think that Chasse Neige is the most hardest piece in Liszt 12 Etude d'execution transcendante,especially the control of pedals.BTW, Kemal Gekic plays Chasse Neige = Ultimate invisible pianist! :D

[chopinandliszt]

invisible pianist? What do you mean, stringendo?

[JakWho92]

hey thank you i know him but i didnt know that he plays this!

[gymgymgymgym]

surely its a study that focuses on tremelos and large jumps?

[Tiagoerg]

Indeed, its a study focused on tremolos and on jumps and quick change of chromatic scales.

[CZARDASMACABRE]

par meilleure, je voulais dire que je la préfère à la version "étude transcendantale"!^^

[CZARDASMACABRE]

la plus poétique de toutes à mon sens, et meilleure que la troisième version je pense.

[nazhiitoxx]

thank you :D

[jiolsmolimassunemo]

Have you tried the Dohnanyi Fingerexercises? I've found them exponentially more useful and efficient than the Hanon exercises.

[chopinandliszt]

why do you think this is a concerto without orchestra? What you said kind of reminds me of Chopin Etude Op.25 No.11.

[nazhiitoxx]

emm, I started studing piano at age 12, and I'm 15 now, but I'm studing a lot of music at same time, just now I'm studing (for the conservatory) 2 inventions by Bach, 2 sonatas by Beethoven, The preludes op.28 by Chopin, the first arabesque by debussy, and for myself I'm studing these studies and Hanon piano method and a lot of other studies by Chopin and by Czerny :D

[hatake16]

Hey I started late too!!! Glad Im not the only one that has made RAPID progress in such a short time. CHeers!!!!

[nazhiitoxx]

no, I started styding the pieces, but I had a little problem with my 4th finger, and I thougth this was a good idea, so I did it!

:D

[qwertyasdyaln]

his is incredible i love it