Ministry - Man Should Surrender (Live)

[TheErnestocore]

esta vien pero no sele olle casy

[StarryKid06]

holy crap

[JamesGBrown]

I loved this song back in the day when it was featured on the Streets on Fire skate video back in 89' by Pailhead!

[jjpme92un]

Mind Is A Terrible Thing To Taste Tour

[AdobeGillis]

Is Joey Shithead singing?

[pailhead11]

When i get my hands on a time machine, this show will be my first destination. 

[Unabomber2]

@pailhead11 take me with you! :)

[pailhead11]

@Unabomber2

deal!

[TheSodiumhaze]

Pure Class!

[stupidassization]

captian tautology

[pailhead11]

Man should surrender!

[redwhiskered]

You engineer this hemisphere

You commandeer this startosphere

But water will still come

Man should surrender!

[Soundman1963]

First heard this in '89 at a tiny club in Portchester, NYthat Moby was dj'ing at. I asked him what he just played and he showed me the grim album cover called: Trait. So glad I bought it afterwards. Truly one of the great never-heard-of-them-bands.

[rabbit605]

I heard of them in the early 90's but only because Ian McKaye (of Minor Threat and Fugazi) sang vocals. Only later did I find Ministry and appreciate the connection. Great band.

[sex6cult9revolution]

You mean the Beat? Tacky punk Dave used to play "I Will Refuse" all the time. That was like our mosh song. I don't remember Moby playing a lot of heavy stuff, but he was pretty eclectic. That was obviously before he got himself fired for playing too much hip-hop.

[Soundman1963]

Yes - The Beat on Adee Street. I didn't know at the time Moby was an aspiring musician. He was just 'Moby '.

[riverstix0007]

fucking good!!

[copsondonuts]

pailhead was great. ian mackayes haunting vocals rocked on that one.

[ChaChinnngK]

sexy

[AJtheory]

It's cool they continued to play these songs, but if you're a Pailhead fan, they don't don them very well live, at least not in the videos on here...they fuck up the lyrics, vocals, and music...it's like they give less of a shit since Ian isn't there with them...

[pailhead11]

I actually like hearing this much more than the one on the actual record. Its raw, it has more energy, its hardcore.

No bunny is not that great in this performance though, and i'd love to hear/see i will refuse if they performed it here.

[skrason]

You have a point. I would've loved to have seen/heard Ian perform Pailhead tracks live, but I guess that was never gonna happen. I mean, how does the most famous straightedge in the world tour with the most notorious junkie on the planet? So, that's why I'm so happy to see these videos. They're the best we are EVER going to have.

[DIVISIONINCISION]

@AJtheory I think it's just that Al gives the Pailhead songs more of his own style when he's doing them versus if it was Ian.

What would you give to see Ian tour with Ministry?

[tiano182]

yeaaaaaa fuck!man should surrender now!!

[pailhead11]

How i envy everyone in this room

[pailhead11]

This is beyond awesome.

[judaspride]

yeah!

[pailhead11]

What are the odds of ministry performing this song live in the upcoming tour?

[slurm1]

1 in 6,450,543. I'm pretty sure Ministry's about coming up on that number of performances pretty quickly, so you may actually get to hear this live.

[mpkpkm]

Trait is a very good record.Only too short!

[castleofhope]

Pailhead featured Ian MacKaye from Fugazi and Minor Threat

[vadimfv]

the pailhead collab owes a lot to the killing joke sound.

also "water will still come" - global warming prediction?

[chemicalwell]

is that really Ian?

[ollieroks]

nope, i not sure but thats diffenetly not ian.

[GGAllinIsGod]

this isn't ian from minor threat, he was in pailhead which is like fugazi + ministry i think, but this i ministry doing a pailhead cover.

[WillSellari]

Pailhead is pretty much Ministry/Revolting Cocks with Ian doing the vocals on the album.

[GGAllinIsGod]

i didn't really like the revolting cocks stuff i heard, it was really really industrial sounding, not as thrashy as pailhead.

[AOCRkid]

well you like GGallin so...

[GGAllinIsGod]

well you like KMFDM so...

[AOCRkid]

KMFDM is better than the best. didn't ya hear?

[GGAllinIsGod]

they do the soundtrack to the street fighter animated movie hahaha i've heard them, i see how you like them but they're not the best.

[AOCRkid]

...inside joke much. listen to megalomaniac.

[WOTprod]

i think its chris C.

[kondothetailor]

Luke Van Acker

[girlscarsandguitars]

This song gives you strength to lift a truck

[rngwrm]

i miss the days when ministry was still good.

[PinkMachineGuns]

i miss the days when pretty much anything was this good :(

[nukecat]

i like your response i agree everything seems like shit these days

[curlyrocks1]

they still are

[hadokenchild]

YES!!

I still have my pail head album. Just wish this was of better quality.

[honestpod]

I was at this in chicago also. Ministery is the loudest band that has ever played LaLa Palooza.

[AustinKronix]

i'll agree that "MINISTRY" is the loudest band! i saw them and im still not right...my hearing had never been the same...shit and that was almost 8 years ago!hahah lol

[theartofselfdefense]

Oh GOD! This show literally ruined me. I saw it in Chicago at the riviera. They had a line up of ambulances outside the venue before the show. It was like the best and worst PR for the tour. This show is actually tame compared to the bodies being pulled from chicago.

[shoo30]

It's already been commented that for once the fence on the stage protected the fans from the band. The energy from this show literally drained the audience. I think that it was a Monday night, definitely a work night. My job was answering sales calls, and after this show I couldn't hear for almost 2 days.

[pailhead11]

I somehow like Al's voice more in this song.

[gigapus35]

that pail head was the shit.we can only wish they would have made more tunes

[pailhead11]

HOLY FUCK!!! Did they ever cover i will refuse?!

Where could i get my hands on that pailhead t-shirt!?!

[edisonoside]

I tore down the stage fence at the Boston show. Al commented that's never happened before;)

[aljourg23]

I wish i'd been there...MAN!!

MINISTRY kicks ass....Actually the wire fence is usually here to protect the band from the crowd, here it is meant to protect the audience from the band. GREAT!! Thanks for posting.

[metalsteve1969]

Mike Scaccia is a God on guitar

[Scornocopia]

Aye, it does look like Joe Kelly a lot

[j37h3r]

Im almost certain that is Joe Kelley.

[FollowTheRedTeam242]

Yeah ... I'd agree. I think that it IS indeed Joe Kelley on vocals.  He toured with them on this tour. I remember him being a big skate fan when I lived in Chicago. This tour was absolutely berserk. The apex of Ministry's live shows.

[scoopsdujour]

This rules.

[sphinctourist]

i'm prolly wrong about that but it almost sounds a bit like Jello singing the main vocal bit.. does anyone know if he did any other dates with them on the tour other than the one they recorded for the In case you didn't feel like showing up video???

[GGAllinIsGod]

if someone's got some goddamn LARD videos put them beasts up. pailhead's fucking crazy. thanks to whoever put this video up.

[aljourg23]

GGAllinIsGod I was also disappointed when checking for LARD on Youtube. Thus i support your calling: if anyone got some LARD stuff, you'll make a couple of guys happier, and basically thousands more...THANK TO YOU FELLA WHO POSTED THIS PAILHEAD, HIT ME DIRECT IN THE CORTEX!!!

[Domrot]

is that Ian

[keioffice]

no Lan never stayed with Al for long cause Al did to many drugs and Lan wasnt like that

[Domrot]

That's what I thought, actaully I remember wondering how that whole thing got set up in the first place.

[keioffice]

yea i dont really get it either, was ok while it lasted though

[Fraeg]

Lan is what you do when you geek out with your friends.

Ian is the actual person you are thinking of.

[FollowTheRedTeam242]

Ian Mackaye from Minor Threat and Fugazi fame.

[Domrot]

What no Ian?

[amptron67]

I saw this tour at the old Channel in Boston. I was the craziest show I ever saw; the pit was 3 stories high. They didn't do this song that night, though. I'm a pailhead fan also... thanks for putting this up.

[natesot]

lol i was at that same show at the channel and yea they didnt do this song but man the shows ministry did at the channel were great out of control so much fun got pumbled at one of the shows i think it was the first revolting cocks show at the channel so great!!!!

[natesot]

hey man remember the fence came down in like the first fucking song and al congrats us i remember him saying this was like the third date of the tour and Boston was the first to get the fence down, lol great show.

[beelzabubba]

Looking at this now, years later, I meant to say that "IT was the craziest show I ever saw", not that I was... No one called me out on it so thanks.