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  • That's awesome, Toscanini is the best conductor ever

  • I stand corrected on the comment of the period recording quality. I didn't realize the audio was dubed in.

  • KILL THE WABBIT!

  • I wish this guy was alive today so he could kick Justin Bieber's ass.

  • assolutamente affascinante!

  • Such talent!

  • I'm not one of "these people" that asserts that "Toscanini Was The Greatest."

    Most people in this field had the careers that their talent gave them; there are always exceptions to this; there are some that should have been bigger than they were while there are a few that were bigger than they should have been but in most cases, the career level that most of these well-known music directors had was truly deserved and I'm thankful for all of them whenever they were at their very best.

  • @kenjifuse007 If you don't want authority in music, then be a chamber player or a Jazz musician that only plays in combos and never big-bands.

    You obviously know less than nothing.

  • Wonderful.

    

  • @Coolermaster71 Thanks, I didn't know that about Luxman!

  • wasnt this in a car commercial or something? lol

  • AMAZING

  • absolutely perfect in every way

  • E' troppo veloce, troppo, TROPPO VELOCEEEE CAZZOOOOO!!!! It is too fast,TOO FAST SSHITTTTT !!!!!! E se il commento vi sembra eccessivo, preciso che questo era il suo stile nel commentare le pecche dell'orchestra. Mi sembra giusto usarlo per commentare le sue.Una direzione da banda paesana.

  • @lector06t Se Toscanini l'ha interpretata così vuol dire che Wagner la scritta così.

  • @stonedmanfromxxxxx La scrittura è univoca, l'interpretazione no, se no che interpretazione sarebbe?

  • @lector06t Toscanini è stato il primo, lo "spartiacque", tra i direttori d'orchestra ad assumere un interpretazione neutra, ha studiato una vita per cercare di non interpretare le musiche, ma riprodurle come l'artista le aveva pensate. Da lui in poi tutto è cambiato!

  • @stonedmanfromxxxxx Eppure la mia impressione è che tutto ciò che è passato per il tramite di questo conduttore ne ha ricevuto una impronta riconoscibilissima e sempre costante qualunque fosse la musica da lui diretta. Può essere che tutti gli artisti di cui diresse le musiche le avessero pensate veloci, scandite, ipercadenzate, ritmate al punto da farmi pensare, ai suoi ordini, non orchestrali diretti con la bacchetta ma cavalli lipizzani diretti col frustino?

  • @lector06t Nessun problema per il TONO della critica, capisco vivamente quel che intendi... e se la pensi in un modo, quando si parla di musica "divina", e dunque di emozione pura, è logico che ci si innervosisca. Tuttavia, mi preme ricordarti che Wagner stesso apprezzava il modo di condurre di Toscanini (gli fu scritta una lettera di encomio a nome della "famiglia" Wagner). Se non ci fidiamo di Wagner.. probabilmente è più aderente questa versione all'idea originale.. piaccia o meno eh ;)

  • @lector06t Nessun problema per il TONO della critica, capisco vivamente quel che intendi... e se la pensi in un modo, quando si parla di musica "divina", e dunque di emozione pura, è logico che ci si innervosisca. Tuttavia, mi preme ricordarti che Wagner stesso apprezzava il modo di condurre di Toscanini (gli fu scritta una lettera di encomio a nome della "famiglia" Wagner). Se non ci fidiamo di Wagner.. probabilmente è più aderente questa versione all'idea originale.. piaccia o meno eh ;)

  • @QVIRINVS Nella storia della musica si contano a migliaia gli esempi di grandi compositori che sono stati anche mediocri esecutori dei propri stessi capolavori,e pessimi giudici degli interpreti dei medesimi ed applicando questa logica al caso specifico potremmo dire che anche Wagner potrebbe non aver fatto eccezione.Scusate la foga, il mio giudizio è totalmente emozionale e soggettivo, e pesa in esso una grandissima antipatia per l'uomo e disistima per il direttore Toscanini.

  • Awesome! TY for posting.

  • Black fumes of cloud crown the Waffen SS division speeding through polish countryside. Gleam of supreme triumph shines in the smiling eyes of the Gruppenführer sitting atop an Olympian tank. A fiery swastika adorns his immaculate black uniform - indicating high competence in unrelenting malice. The Nazis are riding.

  • Impresionanteeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!­!

    Que original !!!! o la verdad es que nos acostumbramos a un estilo y creemos que es el único?

    hhhhmmmmm

    Del contraste sale la luz!!!

  • Unless I'm wrong, in 1948, phonograph records and especially the players were of poor quality at best. The audio on this video recording (or is it kinescope?) is pretty good! To bad the general public couldn't enjoy it to any great extent back then.

  • @amceagle1 Of course the average person did not have access to hi fidelity, but by the mid-forties there WERE high fidelity equipment, for a price of course. Check out the 1945 "point one" Leak amplifier, for instance.

    In any case, most people still listen to sound which is poor, at best! I cannot even imagine playing music through the tiny speakers of a laptop - and yet many people do it!

  • @amceagle1 Yes, you're quite wrong, of course.

    The recording industry actually had pretty good recording equipment by the fall of 1927 and within five years had equipment that almost qualified as hi-fidelity.

    watch?v=8ufWoyMAS0w

    The reason the audio is so good on these kinescopes is that it has been, in our own time, synched with a separately done recording done on a much better quality dedicated audio tape machine.

  • from 0:31-0:40 hes "ALL HAIR HITLAR"-ing lol

  • the great arturo toscanini ... or was he that great ... . 

  • @MusicPredominates "...or was he that great ..." Well, how many think he was versus those who didn't? Or is that a valid question? The orchestra is the paint. The conductor, the painter. The baton is the, the, umm. Oh shit, I forget. The question is, of course, valid. If 20 million evangelical christians think the Earth is 6,000 years old versus 3 million scientists who know it is 12-13 billion, does that make the Earth 6,000 years old? Sooo, how you measure greatness? Beauty? By vote?

  • @KitCox : Oh, Professor Cox, your statement, Christians ¨think¨ the world is ´X´ number of years old, while scientists ¨know¨ the world is ´Y´ years old old is highly biased against Christians. In reality, ´think´ and ´know´ are one and the same The first; ´X´, was settled on by Archbishop Ussher using historical methods. The second; ´Y´, is based on the half-life of some isotope. But the isotopic age decided upon for, say, a volcano often differs from its classical geological age. Thus ´X´ !

  • @MusicPredominates Actually, all scientific knowledge is highly biased against ALL religions. ALL religions are based on the imaginations of human beings, and therefore as factual as Santa Claus. Science doesn't have that luxury. The isotopes don't lie, and only christians would have trouble understanding that. Of course I should have said "...christians BELIEVE the world is..." instead of "think". My mistake. Does that clear things up for you?

  • @MusicPredominates Ok, why is it even interesting as a question, unless it leads to very specific technical analysis that could be useful for other conductors to study..

    What matters is did he get music under the skins of many many people, or just three but who were blown away? If yes, then any other discussion is nul and void..

    If not, if just balast "meaning nothing" then yes, talk and get people to real musicians. But AT touched and still touches many . No more to discuss.

  • @gwirgalon : It is all worthy of debate mate !

  • amaizing & powerful

  • I wish it were a bit louder. I had my volume turned full up and it still sounded as if it were on in another room. This is apowerhouse peice by a powerhouse orchestra and it didn't really come through as it should.

  • The Maestro needs a haircut; that's why this was called "Long -haired music."

  • You can, in some parts, very faintly hear Toscanini singing.

  • Toscanini & Furtwangler = 20th Century's BEST two conductors. maybe of all time, although Japan has a superior conductor there, whose name I can't remember just right now.

  • @TravellerFellow When Toscanini was asked to name the best living conductor, other than himself, he unhesitatingly, but begrudingly named Furtwangler.

    There were a LOT of great conductors contemporary with Toscanini; Furtwangler, Weingartner, Koussevitzky, Stowkowski, Mengelberg, Stock, Goosens, Beecham and more.

    They all had careers and justifiably so.

  • @SatchmoSings I agree, but these two guys stand head and shoulders above the others you mentioned. Toscanini almost frantic on occasion, and Furtwangler nearly herky-jerky at times. but both seemed to get that EXTRA out of their respective orchestras. hope both of them are up on that big conservatory in the sky, each just doing their own thing, as it were.

  • @TravellerFellow I don't much care for Toscanini's "frantic" recordings; he made more than enough that show real breadth and depth, the same goes for Furtwangler.

    There are many, many terrible recordings made by the ALL the conductors I listed; figuring out how a piece should sound and then directing a bunch of VERY individualistic people is not an easy thing to do; we should just be glad of when the microphone is there to capture the times when it's "magic" and enjoy the result.

  • @SatchmoSings  i wasn't referring to his recordings but his "live" conducting style, if you will. many people, 'back in the day' unfairly criticized Toscanini for being too flamboyant while conducting. I strongly disagree, I found his style attractive and stimulating. Furtwangler's style was described as being robotic and jerky. I disagreed with those critics also.

  • @TravellerFellow I agree. I like hearing good music. Toscanini is maestro and I wouldn't mind if they started using the word toscanini instead of maestro. I won't even start with the conduction of new year's concert in vienna. It just makes me sad. I know a lot better Strauss than that. ;)

  • @5ra46 well said !!

  • @TravellerFellow You too! ;)

  • Arturo puts some real emotion into his conducting, truly an amazing piece.

  • my only complaint = jsut wish it was a little louder. sigh :(

  • @TravellerFellow Agreed! There must be some way to heighten the volume.

  • My favorite piece ever. Simply beautiful.

  • Adorable maestro!

  • Bravo! One of the Great One's!

  • I don't want to write music, I don't want to play

    I want only to Conduct .

    This is my dream

    hope before I die my dream will be made!!

  • When I listen to Toscanini conduct this, I feel like I'm flying.

  • sometimes i wonder why do they have to have a conducter.some seem so non-passioned.this shows me how deep the orchrestra and the conducter work together.beautiful!

  • This is the music that one would listen in the middle of the Earth.

  • @Jomabeks I also loved what he said about Marian Anderson-"A voice like hers comes, once in a century"

  • eccellente

  • Toscanini = Genius thanks for uploading this one five stars of course and made it a favorite FT

  • Before cinema, there was Opera. Before there was the film score, there was Wagner. The best musicians and conductor bring Wagner's music to life as this example demonstrates. Thrilling to say the least!

  • amazing

  • wow very natural

  • sutch powerful music

  • A conducter controls so many things. When you have so many musicians concentrating on their reading,there has to be someone to control Timing,Balanceand Dynamics.Otherwise it can get out of control pretty fast.

  • understatement!

  • I'm not going to sit here and claim that I know much about music. I don't. Before now, I had no idea who Toscanini was.

    What I see in him here though is a man passionate about bringing forth the best possible. A man who focuses on personally rising to the standard he wants to see around him. That is what I define as class.

    Thanks Onegin65 for the upload. Best Wagner I've heard (even if I'm no aristocrat, expert or aficionado).

  • The video you all are viewing is a "live performance". NBC had programs with Toscannini. They were on radio .

  • @xmetbass Toscanini just wasn't "on radio;" he was on NETWORK radio that was broadcast LIVE, COAST-TO-COAST, not just locally in NYC.

    Indeed, the studio where this network TELECAST was made was originally built for him and The NBC Symphony Orchestra; it is now the television studio where "Saturday Night Live" is done.

  • If you want to hear one of Toscanini's best recordings, check out his 1939 recording of Beethoven's Missa Solemnis on BBC Legends (coupled with some orchestral pieces). It even puts the Klemperer version in the shade, though the latter has better sonics and is in stereo.

  • Toscanini managed to lead an orchestra with a great sense of time (tempo) while being incredibly expressive with his hands. He showed everything he wanted in the music without being either a flamboyant showman or an expressionless metronome. In my opinion, we have not seen the likes of him, since, and the ones who have come the closest to his mastery of the music have been Carlos Kleiber, perhaps James Levine..after them?

  • wow how did they do that 60 years ago 1:13

    btw 100k viewers soon woot

  • To 'GregQzag'

    Just what exactly is your profession?

  • "Dustman"

  • Are people seriously trying to say that there is nothing to conducting? If so than I'm sorry they've never worked with top musicians because they are mired in mediocrity or are too ignorant to know the difference.

  • rehearsal

  • So you are saying that the First Violin is conducting the orchestra?

  • I love this peice of music !!!!!!!

  • Look at the men attack their instruments !  This is music for men not sissy boys, ha.

  • Honestly who is paying attention to the old guy with the stick? Noone. Everyone is looking at the music sheets in front of them. he could be flapping his arms like a pigeon for all the muscians care.

  • Arturo Toscanini was one of the greatest conductors of all time. A man like this has to be HONORED

  • Honered for what? Waving a stick around while people ignore him and read the music in front of them? That makes a man great?

  • Do you drive a car? When you look into the rear mirror for a split second. That's how the players sync up with each other. Why don't you think about standing in front of this magnificent orchestra. Would you think 'oh, man, I'm a just a stick wielding dummy..' Should all the conductors then be done away with? Or resign? I encourage you to become a conductor

  • GregQ why not take out some time and read biographies and autobiographis of famous conductors (Toscanini, Furtwaengler, Bernstein, many others..

  • Actually I could send you some material on the programs at all the best conservatories in the world such as the Juilliard School, The Royal Conservatory of Music in London, The Paris Conservatoire, etc. Yes, there are people that devote to their entire music career to "waving their sticks" at orchestra members who actually do follow them closely. Because not ever piece of music has a steady beat.

  • GregQzag--

    The whole conception of how a piece should sound; it's entire shape is in the hands of the music director.

    There is a REASON why certain conductors are considered "great" or have a repertoire that they are known for, good or ill.

    Indeed, one better example of this would be the Olivier's Henry V vs. that by Branaugh.

    Remember, you only see the finished product on the screen; you should also hear a rehearsal tape to see what the conductor really does before a concert.

  • @SatchmoSings agreed, for a two hour presentation/performance goes maybe a hundred hours of preparation. the conductor during this time makes it all "come together" and it aint easy by a long hot.

  • @TravellerFellow Well, I don't know about a ratio of rehearsal to performance time of 50:1 but I would say that 20:1 is not unrealistic.

  • @SatchmoSings I dare say you are probably a lot closer in your ratio time estimate than I am. just wanted to make a point, but not exaggerate.

  • @TravellerFellow Well, it does depend; a totally new work that is complex with all sorts of changes in meter, intensity, key and rhythm would require more time to learn than a rehearsal of, let's say, Brahms 3rd Symphony.

  • There is actually a rather well known orchestra that plays fairly well without a conductor; it's called "Orpheus."

    And while it's a superb ensemble (look it up if you're really that curious for a different perspective on this whole matter) it really would play a lot better, in my opinion, if it did have an overriding hand making the final artistic decisions.

  • gzaenker--

    Toscanini has a lot of great recordings.

    he also has some that are mediocre and some that are totally misconceived but ultimately, the man knew a helluva lot about music, more than some idiots here.

  • They didn't do that in rehearsal, that is for shure.

  • Toscanini ist der Beste! Vergiss Karajan, Furthwängler und Bernstein.... bravo, maestro :)

  • Ja, du bist Richtig

  • yo this is my shit

  • Wagner is Wagner...Hitler is Hitler...

  • Amazing!

  • Hitler almost destroyed Wagner just because he loved his music. Everyone started to hate Wagner because Hitler liked him.

    This is the great thing about YouTube. How many people would even be able to see Toscanini if it were not here.

    This is what life is made of; Great Wine, Beautiful Women, Great Music and Great Cigars.

  • Sorry, but you´re in really stupid for say that. My suggestion is you need to study more to hitler life and his work. To say wagner is hatted for hitler is the most stupid think.

    Deberias de estudiar más la obra de Adolf Hitler antes de decir estupideces. Además, el decir que Richard Wagner es odiado por culpa de Hitler es la más grande estupidez que jamás he oido en mi vida.

  • FANTASTIC!!!:)

  • This stuff is brilliant. Wagner and Toscanini are geniuses both.

  • that theme became a part of german propaganda machine.

  • In case you did not know, Toscanini was one of the greatest and most famous enemies of Fascism and Nazism, and all his concerts had anti-Nazi themes. He even conducted the newly-founded Palestine Symphony (now the Israel symphony) for free, because it was made up of Jewish refugees from Nazism.

  • thgis is the awsome

  • beautiful thank you

  • it remembered me mr burns xD

  • when I listen this song always think in war :O

  • Normal! it's a music for a Battle!...

  • sun of a bitch

  • its son not sun

  • What people need to understand about conducting is that it is about more than just Keeping time with the orchestra during a performance. Most of the conductor's work is done rehearsal, where he molds the ensemble into the sound he wants, balancing every chord, making sure everything is as the composer wished and is to his liking. That is where Toscanini was at his best, that is when he did his magic: When he was molding the orchestra to match what he heard in his head.

  • Very true. Conducting is all about interpreting the music and realizing the interpretation with the orchestra.  In my experience, most good musicians don't even need the conductor at the concert. I have known many conductors who, during the concert, try to get the orchestra to be more expressive and powerful than they were at rehearsal. I even saw one literally JUMP on the podium. Of course, he was completely unsuccessful in getting the band to play any better.

  • @mazurmusic7 It was something he did very well indeed. I listen to several versions of a piece, and the difference between conductors is astounding. It's a disaster when a conductor can only elicit a technical performance.

  • @mazurmusic7 Although I presume Toscaninis performances are some of the best around, and he took the greatest pains to make it so, I can only imagine the level perfection he wasn't able to transfer to the orchestra, that was in his head.

  • @SteveAndrewLangford Painters have the same problem: getting paint out of a tube onto canvass. Painters can always remix a brush stroke right in the middle of the work. Musicians don't have that luxury... Once he/she taps the baton on the podium, in front of a live audience, it's all or nothing.

  • @KitCox Agreed ;)

  • @mazurmusic7 Indeed, you are right. But few conductors are able to do this deeply. Karajan seems to have been another such a one, as well as Mahler and some more fine conductors...

  • @Enerkhan My personal favourite is C Kleiber,. Evrything was music, everything, and so sad he is no longer with us to teach some of the fast and easies or loud loud louds what music is, truly, and why so important..

  • Toscanini represents the absolute perfection in conducting without the exaggerations that modern conductors do.He had a perfect insight into the tone and the tempo and he respected the original intentions of the composers about how their works should be performed.

  • i think karajan is the best its just that when you look in his face you can see what he wants

  • Toscanini grandioso!

  • Hi.. Ladies and Gentlemen.. You forgot the main idea...Don't forget again please and don't talk to much. You look like kids...So far Toscanini is the Great, no questions. I do not know, whos comming but, Toscanini with no DDD sistem record sound better that the other conductors......

  • Furtwangler a genius ??? It's just the opposite by true facts and not by ridiculous and bizarre one-way personal opinions : Arturo Toscanini, the greatest music director of all times, was a genius who could interpretate at legend Wagner ,Beethoven,Verdi and Rossini .

    furtwangler was only a good director who couldn't afford Opera and any music out of Beethoven and Brahms : when he tried to execute Otello, he made an embarrassing crap still remembered nowadays !!

    Knapperts who ?? :-)

  • Those 2 guys , not mentioning the well known pathetic &

    childish Furtwangler's envy for Von Karajan,

    can't even get to Toscanini's feet as for everything : interpretation ability, control on orchestra, prestige, intellectual & culture skills, not mentioning Toscanini's legendary ear ......

    Definitely Toscanini is a genius who performed the greatest composers free of any long dated scholastic scummin interpretation ( which Furtwangler was all about ) , for sure he was the only one genius .

  • Genius, that's exactly what he was, as stated by countless music experts and also by true facts and not by rude uncultured northamerican child brains who believe they can talk of music like they talked about a hockey/football game .....!! :-)

    Try to get informed of true facts and learn history of musci, instead of posting your so totally false & bizarre nonsenses : Toscanini was famous for his extremely well read & precise conducting, no matter which composer he performed

    &

  • ( something any director else could only dream and probably will about for the centuries to come ), which is exactly the opposite of the idiocies posted in your so stupid and ridiculous comment.

    It's quite well known that the Bayreuth House along with same Wagner family reputed Toscanini a perfect performer & director of Richard Wagner's music ( just study & learn

    the subject, u jackass ).

    Everybody knows that Furtwangler's carrier was only due to Nazis' protection and propaganda

  • ( Von Karajan used to call him

    " the little F " , meaning Furtwangler as a mediocre director ), Toscanini instead is the example Von Karajan and everyone else

    after him looked at as for music culture, precise reading of composers' original scores

    and versatile unbeatable genius in performing

    every type of music at its best .

    No Von Karajan ( so overrated by many experts' opinions ),Nikisch,Maazel,Abbado or

    Bernstein could ever touched Toscanini's so well known genius.

  • How much creative genius does it take to do what he's doing in the video ?

    Just listen to the music coming out from his hands if you can get it ( which I doubt about ) and ask any expert how perfect and artistic the musci is, instead of posting so pathetic & bizarre comments .

  • It was Furtwängler who called Karajan "Little K"... get the facts right; read Furtwängler's or Karajan's biography. Furtwängler was so jealous of Karajan's youth and popularity that he couldn't come to say his name... to my knowledge, Karajan never coined that term let alone used it. Karajan also looked up to BOTH Furtwängler and Toscanini; again, try reading his life story.

  • While I respect Toscanini's work and appreciate his early recordings, I don't see the genius in playing robotic Wagner if Toscanini's intention is to play the music as Wagner intended. Wagner (and Liszt) the conductor was a precursor of Nikisch and Furtwängler.

  • First of all, what does being North American have to do with it? Secondly, though I have no opinion of the subject in question I do have something to say about Trulyloyale: It's people like you with your self-righteous sense and uniform code of what music should be, citing your "experts", that is the downfall of compositional/classical music. That my friend, is a sad thing.

  • Point being that Invisus944 is obviously looking for something else in his conductor. You shouldn't interfere with that. Not that it matters really the piece is still fantastic.

  • "Kill the Wabbit! Kill the Wabbit!" E. Fudd

  • ah arturo good job.

  • te tu un capisci un tube di musica craigsmin

    come dare il confetto al maiale

    viva toscanini!

  • Arturo Toscanini, we salut you!!

  • Anyone feel like invading Poland?

  • Wow lol

  • I'm German, but that's really funny.

  • "Anyone feel like invading Poland? "

    Actually it wasn't me who came up with that, it was Woody Allen ;-)

  • are you isralei?

  • "are you isralei?"

    No, why do you ask?

  • wagner's text should be studied ;his opras are from a writer not only a musician a true genius all in all!!

  • very good copy

  • intense shit! this dude Wagner really knew how to write music with brutal feeling

  • Arturo Toscanini was an absolute genius when it came to music. The man put so many hours into just studying Wagner's personal texts so that he could have a better understanding of what was meant by the music.

    This video is an absolute treasure, major props on finding it and putting it up.

  • Exactement giloubreizh !!

  • Toujours très exigeant, le père Arturo! Il a raison!

  • just imagine all the hard work done behind the scenes to create such lovely music.......

  • My favorite song, but it should have the melody louder, and I wish that I could turn this up louder, it greatly improves the piece

  • ya it just doesnt provoke quite the same level of emotion as it does at higher volume

  • Turn up your speakers then.

  • What version has the woman singing opera? That is the best by far. Anyone?

  • The one that actually happens during the opera, Die Walkure. This is a concert version.

  • das ist gut!

  • Most posting here don't seem to get the point. Toscanini lived long enough to be a true pioneer in bringing classical music to the masses on NBC TV from 1948 - 1952 courtesy of Gen David Sarnoff. The NBC Symphony created especially for him by Sarnoff from the 1930's thru the 1950's was one of the best during those turbulent days of WWII and the Korean War. I highly recommend this video of the original Kinescope Recordings to true students of early Television and Classical Music. Early TV A++

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