If you believe a man is responsible for what is going on here your absolutely correct. Every man every woman who pays this gov. a single cent in taxes is responsible. Keep buying there (China.S.A) goods. Keep supporting a debt based society. Do the math borrow 1 at 1.05 straight from the reserve and explain to me where the extra .05 comes from. Thin air!! You1942pantherv are an uninformed, brainwashed douche who relies on fox and the zionist media org. to think for him wake up or be woken up.
AND I THINK OF THIS QUEEN SONG...I THINK OF RIOT COPS POUNDING THIER BATONS ON THIER SHIELDS..MARCHING AGAINST THE SCUMMY PROTESTORS...AND ME WITH THE COPS....COURSE....I'D HAVE STEEL TIPPED JUMP BOOTS ON..AND I'D KICK IN SOME TEETH
and p[lease..don't bring up hitler..he was a saint compared to these guys....communism doesn't work....and i hope you got queens permission to use this song
@Maetel22 ...REALLY???...SCENES OF THE FRENCH REVOLUTION....THE 2ND REVOLT AGAINST THE KING....VIVE LA COMMUNE???..OHH YEAH..RIGHT..ALL PEACEFUL..HEY..HOW ABOUT THAT SUPERMARKET THAT GOT IT'S WINDOWS SMASHED BY OCCUPYERS..IN OAKLAND..BROAD DAYLIGHT??..GUESS THEY WANTED TO TEACH THOSE WOMEN AND CHILDREN NOT TO MESS WITH "THE PEOPLE"..PUHLEASE....YOU DON'T REPRESENT ME..YOU DON'T REPRESENT THE MAJORITY OF THIS COUNTRY...GO TO DC AND PROTEST THE REAL MAN RESP. HIS NAMES OBAMA, REAL 1ST NAME BARRY
@1942PANTHERV Is everyone who has ever considered themselves a christian a christian? I think of socialism not as a thing that any government should operate on, but rather as a mindset.
Christianity is, at its core, an ideology of peace, love, and charity. You just have to strip away the bullshit that surrounds it. Socialism, at its core, is an ideology of peace, love, and charity. One must only strip away the baggage that surrounds it. In the beginning, it was the diggers and the chartists.
@Maetel22 sure..thats how the socialist movement and communist movement started in russia and china....peace love and charity?????..please....i was a widdle kid and i heard that stuff in the 60's from people..and it made me sick.....wolves love people like that....listen comrade.....my people fought those kinds of people 70 yrs ago..were occupied by those people for nearly 2 decades..and they shoved the same bs down thier throats....we're doing this for you.
i knew some assholes with these people would try to link it with communism.....history lesson for you libby liberals.....lenin...10 million russians dead...stalin...40-50 million russians dead.....eastern europeans??? good question...17 million poles by his orders......mao tse tungs cultural revolution 100 million..dead...n vietnamese killed 2 million s vietnamese after war....pol pot killed 3 mill cambodians....castro....don't know yet..but once he's dead..we'll know
How the hell do these people expect to gain freedom from an oppressive government by asking for COMMUNISM!? Are they that ignorant in thinking that communist governments didn't just wholesale kill their people for failing to work for slave wages? These people better pick up a history book. Start with Russia.
@StephJ623 Ok, wait a minute. Social Democracy/Syndicalism is not Dictatorial State Socialism, and it is certainly not Soviet/Chinese/Cuban Communism. You should also be aware that there are schools of thought within Socialism that deviate greatly from Marxo-Leninism. The aforementioned phenomenon was the result of Vladimir Lenin's interpretation of Marxist thought, which stressed government allocation of resources. I, and most others in this movement, reject that idea for the same reasons you
@StephJ623 do. I believe that the people should be the government. I do not believe that businessmen or generals, or politicians, or priests, should be the government. I believe that the artists, poets, and philosophers; the craftsmen, and the farmers; the people who work voluntarily for the common good, and the people who love their neighbors, should be the government. No more nation-states, no more wars, no more dictators, no more racism, or poverty, or genocide.
@StephJ623 The people of the world must unite, and they must rise up against their masters, break their chains, and take the world back from the bankers, generals, and politicians who want nothing more than to divide man aganst man, and rule. The Spring is here, the spring is now.
@StephJ623 also, there is not a single picture in this video of the Russian or Chinese revolutions/civil wars. The imagery is of the Paris Commune, and the 1848 revolutions. They were led by the people, but were killed before they could break the chains of the world. Now, the internet will allow us to bring about one, interconnected revolutionary force. This is real. It's not Communism or Capitalism, it's something far greater than either of those.
@Maetel22 Why do you need to find 'imagry from the Paris Commune'? What the heck is wrong with the AMERICAN Revolution if you want to draw inspiration from a real struggle for freedom?
@StephJ623 the freedom to do what? practice chattel slavery? kill a whole lot of Indians? Tar and feather tax men? I'm not saying the British were saints either, but the American Independence War isn't exactly the epitome of "struggle for freedom". The US president is head of government, head of state, and commander in chief of the army. The Prime Minister of the UK is head of government, and he is a member of the legislature, which is directly responsible to the people. Which one is more free?
So, what, besides the graphics ad the great music, are they trying to say. I've seen some real dummies interviewed on tv and no one seems to know what the heck it is they want. Expect everything free that is.
@garritygal don't plug yourself into the idiot box, that's what big brother uses to turn your brain into gelatin. The Internet is far more liberated, but still full of brainwashing and danger. The revolution's first casualty will be the Mass Media. What we intend to accomplish is nothing less than revolution. Voluntarily seperating ourselves from the system and becoming both self-sufficient and interdependent. We intend to establish a new world that is ruled by artists and poets.
I don't get it .Seems that people want to live in a world where they are depended on others. We want to live in a world where we depend on our selfs and everyone minds their own business.
@inolamax Sounds like a lonely, bitter world to me. I agree with that idea partially, with a vision of independent city states across the globe tied together by human rights agreements and free roaming laws, where everyone grows their own food in rooftop greenhouses. I also think, however, that humans need to, and should be, interdependent on one another. They need love, and they need understanding, and they need someone to share their gifts with. Call me a pinko but I like love.
Contact Michigan's Governor Rick Snyder and tell him how you feel. There are changes being made in Michigan that are benefiting the 1% There has been a limit passed on obtaining unemployment benefits, earned income tax has been revoked, union rights are being stomped on, and on and on! Please speak up! P.O. Box 30013 Lansing, Michigan 48909
@CaptainNensho It's a fair argument. Although one could make the case that drawing attention to all of the abandoned buildings can serve as a useful example of what capitalism has done.
@CaptainNensho All power to the people, general strike and revolution. This is not a political movement, it is a popular movement. Detroit needs empowerment, and it needs revolution'ry change. "There's a better world that's a' comin'" and we're gonna make it happen here.
@spocksbrian cold calculations. In response to your economic argument, why not set up a commune? That's what we're already doing. We are a leaderless revolution, which stresses direct democracy. There are many viewpoints within the movement, but I personally believe that voluntary Democratic Socialism is possible in the city of Detroit (one could say, especially in the city of Detroit) and that it is already manifesting itself in public opinion (from what I gather at the GA and on the website).
Hey mattel, how about you say something worth responding to and I'll respond. I'm not going to debate you on whether or not a dead person was capable of an emotion.
Ever heard of the reign of terror? Maybe the american revolution is what you should channel instead of the french...
@spocksbrian You're right, that was stupid of me. However, the starkness of Ayn Rand's Objectivism reminds me too much of Otto van Bismarck, Napoleon, or even Hitler (if one thinks about it in an individual sense, rather than a people vs. government sense) in that it stresses absolute, sterile logic above any human altruism. This might as well encourage the utilitarian use of human beings. IMO it is better for humanity to be both beautiful and ugly than for it to be nothing other than
@spocksbrian Direct Democracy in the ancient Athenian style, and Socialism in an "everybody help each other out" sense. If we establish this now, then the tradition will take hold later. What I want to do is nothing less than to create a society where the people rule, and the only thing influencing them are basic human rights, poets, artists, and composers. Not businessmen, "representatives", and generals. As for the last thing you said, I am trying to channel the 1848 revolutions and the paris
commune, in the sense that they were bursts of freedom that were killed off before they could take hold. As for violence during the French Revolution, and the moral greatness of the American Independence War, have you ever heard of tarring and feathering?
@patriotest1 if you believe in: direct democracy, upholding of basic freedoms, end to the Fed, local autonomy, Jury system, armed populace, etc. then we believe the same things. I used imagery from the 1848 revolutions and the Paris Commune as events epitomizing what we are about to do. A great burst of freedom, except this one must not fail.
If you believe a man is responsible for what is going on here your absolutely correct. Every man every woman who pays this gov. a single cent in taxes is responsible. Keep buying there (China.S.A) goods. Keep supporting a debt based society. Do the math borrow 1 at 1.05 straight from the reserve and explain to me where the extra .05 comes from. Thin air!! You1942pantherv are an uninformed, brainwashed douche who relies on fox and the zionist media org. to think for him wake up or be woken up.
MrRoscoluv 3 months ago
AND I THINK OF THIS QUEEN SONG...I THINK OF RIOT COPS POUNDING THIER BATONS ON THIER SHIELDS..MARCHING AGAINST THE SCUMMY PROTESTORS...AND ME WITH THE COPS....COURSE....I'D HAVE STEEL TIPPED JUMP BOOTS ON..AND I'D KICK IN SOME TEETH
1942PANTHERV 4 months ago
and che guevera (i know i mispelled his name)..he's still dead...the piece of shit...and we helped kill him..yahoo!!!!!
1942PANTHERV 4 months ago
and p[lease..don't bring up hitler..he was a saint compared to these guys....communism doesn't work....and i hope you got queens permission to use this song
1942PANTHERV 4 months ago
@1942PANTHERV for god sakes did you read the discription? or anything in thsi comment box? I am advocating neither communism, nor violence.
Maetel22 4 months ago
@Maetel22 ...REALLY???...SCENES OF THE FRENCH REVOLUTION....THE 2ND REVOLT AGAINST THE KING....VIVE LA COMMUNE???..OHH YEAH..RIGHT..ALL PEACEFUL..HEY..HOW ABOUT THAT SUPERMARKET THAT GOT IT'S WINDOWS SMASHED BY OCCUPYERS..IN OAKLAND..BROAD DAYLIGHT??..GUESS THEY WANTED TO TEACH THOSE WOMEN AND CHILDREN NOT TO MESS WITH "THE PEOPLE"..PUHLEASE....YOU DON'T REPRESENT ME..YOU DON'T REPRESENT THE MAJORITY OF THIS COUNTRY...GO TO DC AND PROTEST THE REAL MAN RESP. HIS NAMES OBAMA, REAL 1ST NAME BARRY
1942PANTHERV 4 months ago
@Maetel22 yep..sure did..comraDE
1942PANTHERV 3 weeks ago
@1942PANTHERV shocker... a righty considers Hitler a saint.
hitchains 1 month ago
@hitchains i'll take hitler over your lenin..stalin....castro....mao..ho chi mihn....shall i continue??????
1942PANTHERV 1 month ago
@1942PANTHERV Is everyone who has ever considered themselves a christian a christian? I think of socialism not as a thing that any government should operate on, but rather as a mindset.
Christianity is, at its core, an ideology of peace, love, and charity. You just have to strip away the bullshit that surrounds it. Socialism, at its core, is an ideology of peace, love, and charity. One must only strip away the baggage that surrounds it. In the beginning, it was the diggers and the chartists.
Maetel22 3 weeks ago
@Maetel22 sure..thats how the socialist movement and communist movement started in russia and china....peace love and charity?????..please....i was a widdle kid and i heard that stuff in the 60's from people..and it made me sick.....wolves love people like that....listen comrade.....my people fought those kinds of people 70 yrs ago..were occupied by those people for nearly 2 decades..and they shoved the same bs down thier throats....we're doing this for you.
1942PANTHERV 3 weeks ago
@Maetel22 well i'm on the side of the riot pd..and i'll be more than happy to put you down when the time comes.....youj don'
t have a friend in pennsylvania
1942PANTHERV 3 weeks ago
@1942PANTHERV you sound pretty damned authoritarian for somebody who's people fought the Soviets.
Maetel22 3 weeks ago
@Maetel22 YOU HAVE NOT GUESSED MY HERITAGE..MEIN HERR???? LIEBER GOTT IM HIMMEL!!!!
1942PANTHERV 3 weeks ago
@Maetel22 ....maetel???..as in maetel legend??? as in capt harlock???
1942PANTHERV 3 weeks ago
@1942PANTHERV Yup!
Maetel22 3 weeks ago
@1942PANTHERV made my childhood
Maetel22 3 weeks ago
@Maetel22 WELLLLLLL maybe you aren't such a bad chap after all...comrade...more of a DESLOK MAN myself....course now GUTS is more my character
1942PANTHERV 3 weeks ago
@1942PANTHERV not the maoists and leninists
Maetel22 3 weeks ago
i knew some assholes with these people would try to link it with communism.....history lesson for you libby liberals.....lenin...10 million russians dead...stalin...40-50 million russians dead.....eastern europeans??? good question...17 million poles by his orders......mao tse tungs cultural revolution 100 million..dead...n vietnamese killed 2 million s vietnamese after war....pol pot killed 3 mill cambodians....castro....don't know yet..but once he's dead..we'll know
1942PANTHERV 4 months ago
How the hell do these people expect to gain freedom from an oppressive government by asking for COMMUNISM!? Are they that ignorant in thinking that communist governments didn't just wholesale kill their people for failing to work for slave wages? These people better pick up a history book. Start with Russia.
StephJ623 4 months ago
@StephJ623 Ok, wait a minute. Social Democracy/Syndicalism is not Dictatorial State Socialism, and it is certainly not Soviet/Chinese/Cuban Communism. You should also be aware that there are schools of thought within Socialism that deviate greatly from Marxo-Leninism. The aforementioned phenomenon was the result of Vladimir Lenin's interpretation of Marxist thought, which stressed government allocation of resources. I, and most others in this movement, reject that idea for the same reasons you
Maetel22 4 months ago
@StephJ623 do. I believe that the people should be the government. I do not believe that businessmen or generals, or politicians, or priests, should be the government. I believe that the artists, poets, and philosophers; the craftsmen, and the farmers; the people who work voluntarily for the common good, and the people who love their neighbors, should be the government. No more nation-states, no more wars, no more dictators, no more racism, or poverty, or genocide.
Maetel22 4 months ago
@StephJ623 The people of the world must unite, and they must rise up against their masters, break their chains, and take the world back from the bankers, generals, and politicians who want nothing more than to divide man aganst man, and rule. The Spring is here, the spring is now.
Maetel22 4 months ago
@StephJ623 also, there is not a single picture in this video of the Russian or Chinese revolutions/civil wars. The imagery is of the Paris Commune, and the 1848 revolutions. They were led by the people, but were killed before they could break the chains of the world. Now, the internet will allow us to bring about one, interconnected revolutionary force. This is real. It's not Communism or Capitalism, it's something far greater than either of those.
Maetel22 4 months ago
@Maetel22 Why do you need to find 'imagry from the Paris Commune'? What the heck is wrong with the AMERICAN Revolution if you want to draw inspiration from a real struggle for freedom?
StephJ623 3 months ago
@StephJ623 the freedom to do what? practice chattel slavery? kill a whole lot of Indians? Tar and feather tax men? I'm not saying the British were saints either, but the American Independence War isn't exactly the epitome of "struggle for freedom". The US president is head of government, head of state, and commander in chief of the army. The Prime Minister of the UK is head of government, and he is a member of the legislature, which is directly responsible to the people. Which one is more free?
Maetel22 3 months ago
So, what, besides the graphics ad the great music, are they trying to say. I've seen some real dummies interviewed on tv and no one seems to know what the heck it is they want. Expect everything free that is.
garritygal 4 months ago
@garritygal don't plug yourself into the idiot box, that's what big brother uses to turn your brain into gelatin. The Internet is far more liberated, but still full of brainwashing and danger. The revolution's first casualty will be the Mass Media. What we intend to accomplish is nothing less than revolution. Voluntarily seperating ourselves from the system and becoming both self-sufficient and interdependent. We intend to establish a new world that is ruled by artists and poets.
Maetel22 4 months ago
I don't get it .Seems that people want to live in a world where they are depended on others. We want to live in a world where we depend on our selfs and everyone minds their own business.
inolamax 4 months ago
@inolamax Sounds like a lonely, bitter world to me. I agree with that idea partially, with a vision of independent city states across the globe tied together by human rights agreements and free roaming laws, where everyone grows their own food in rooftop greenhouses. I also think, however, that humans need to, and should be, interdependent on one another. They need love, and they need understanding, and they need someone to share their gifts with. Call me a pinko but I like love.
Maetel22 4 months ago
Contact Michigan's Governor Rick Snyder and tell him how you feel. There are changes being made in Michigan that are benefiting the 1% There has been a limit passed on obtaining unemployment benefits, earned income tax has been revoked, union rights are being stomped on, and on and on! Please speak up! P.O. Box 30013 Lansing, Michigan 48909
PHONE: (517) 373-3400 PHONE: (517) 335-7858 - Constituent Services FAX:(517) 335-6863 E-MAIL: Rick.Snyder@michigan.gov
summersetretrievers 4 months ago
yes we will we wil be ther
MyBossbitch1 4 months ago
I'll be there!
richd506 4 months ago
where the fuck would you protest in detroit? bunch of bombed out buildings. why not protest in you know... the capital, lansing!
CaptainNensho 4 months ago
@CaptainNensho It's a fair argument. Although one could make the case that drawing attention to all of the abandoned buildings can serve as a useful example of what capitalism has done.
richd506 4 months ago
@CaptainNensho All power to the people, general strike and revolution. This is not a political movement, it is a popular movement. Detroit needs empowerment, and it needs revolution'ry change. "There's a better world that's a' comin'" and we're gonna make it happen here.
Maetel22 4 months ago
Or you could respond to me. End the fed, elect Ron Paul. Setting up communes is not the way to end corporatism.
spocksbrian 4 months ago
@spocksbrian cold calculations. In response to your economic argument, why not set up a commune? That's what we're already doing. We are a leaderless revolution, which stresses direct democracy. There are many viewpoints within the movement, but I personally believe that voluntary Democratic Socialism is possible in the city of Detroit (one could say, especially in the city of Detroit) and that it is already manifesting itself in public opinion (from what I gather at the GA and on the website).
Maetel22 4 months ago
Hey mattel, how about you say something worth responding to and I'll respond. I'm not going to debate you on whether or not a dead person was capable of an emotion.
Ever heard of the reign of terror? Maybe the american revolution is what you should channel instead of the french...
spocksbrian 4 months ago
@spocksbrian You're right, that was stupid of me. However, the starkness of Ayn Rand's Objectivism reminds me too much of Otto van Bismarck, Napoleon, or even Hitler (if one thinks about it in an individual sense, rather than a people vs. government sense) in that it stresses absolute, sterile logic above any human altruism. This might as well encourage the utilitarian use of human beings. IMO it is better for humanity to be both beautiful and ugly than for it to be nothing other than
Maetel22 4 months ago
@spocksbrian Direct Democracy in the ancient Athenian style, and Socialism in an "everybody help each other out" sense. If we establish this now, then the tradition will take hold later. What I want to do is nothing less than to create a society where the people rule, and the only thing influencing them are basic human rights, poets, artists, and composers. Not businessmen, "representatives", and generals. As for the last thing you said, I am trying to channel the 1848 revolutions and the paris
Maetel22 4 months ago
commune, in the sense that they were bursts of freedom that were killed off before they could take hold. As for violence during the French Revolution, and the moral greatness of the American Independence War, have you ever heard of tarring and feathering?
Maetel22 4 months ago
end the fed. objectivism, not collectivism.
spocksbrian 4 months ago
@spocksbrian Ayn Rand was a robot who didn't know what love meant. George Orwell was a Social-Democrat. That's me.
Maetel22 4 months ago
End the fed!
drbnzballa1 5 months ago
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LaLune44 5 months ago
@patriotest1 if you believe in: direct democracy, upholding of basic freedoms, end to the Fed, local autonomy, Jury system, armed populace, etc. then we believe the same things. I used imagery from the 1848 revolutions and the Paris Commune as events epitomizing what we are about to do. A great burst of freedom, except this one must not fail.
Maetel22 5 months ago
All Power 2 da People!!1
BillionGODSun 5 months ago
KID ROCK YOUR COUNTRY NEED YOU NOW MORE THEN EVER JOIN THE MOVEMENT
dziej23 5 months ago
You guys better move up the date. You're missing the moment!
rickygervais1776 5 months ago 2
So, um... When are those alternate histories I subscribed to coming back?
scoobyrds 5 months ago