The woman is a trouble maker, can a man walk around with his zip down and his old feller hangin out? I DON'T THINK SO! SO there are dress standards. To be British meant to be fair, they were, they invited these other people in, and now these people are saying, KEEP being fair, because WE WONT! She needs a good swift kick and a trip to Iran for 20 years!
@Sq12Sq22u22 - she's french irish and grew up in london you dumb fuck. she's not middle eastern at all and neither is her family.
there certainly are dress standards, and nakedness (like zipper down having your penis hanging out) obviously defies those standards. wearing a head scarf or veil hardly defies those standards.
@bigboss370 Did I say she WAS Middle Eastern, obviously you can't define what you read. And AS AN OPINION it does defy dress standards as a relevance of the culture of the country in which she lives! It is merely that she and people like YOU try to shove YOUR opinions on other people while yourselves having no capacity to consider an alternate point of view! The denial of another point of view by people LIKE you has now caused a backlash from those like me, and we are getting like YOU!
@bigboss370 And what a dam shame we ARE getting like you!!! By the method employed by ignorant, demanding people who would never enter into moderation or compromise and insist on their own way and wont brook criticism, the only way, ultimately, is to employ the same methods when dialogue of tolerance fails!
muhamad has been to hell. What do you think that means?
al-Bukhaari and Muslim report from Usaamah ibn Zayd that the muhamad said "I stood at the gate of Hell, and saw that most of those who entered were women".
@irishgodfatherchris ...france, as well as turkey and some north african countries have also banned the hijab in their public schools...french citizens have the right to express in law their community values and muslim immigrants should respect these whether they're pointless or not...muslims seem to enjoy pushing their religion in everyones face and too many western governments are too tolerant of this...normal citizens in western countries leave their religion at home
@irishgodfatherchris ...that's exactly the point, too much tolerance and political correctness, and the french are finally doing something about it...france prohibits the wearing of crucifixes in public schools but these jerks want to wear religious headscarves...as economic conditions become harsher, i think a major back lash will occur on these countries...the US prohibits face masks in public (a holdover from the kkk) and there is fairly open hostility to muslims...
@irishgodfatherchris ..ok..at face value banning the burqa doesn't accomplish that much, but you have to start somewhere...it at least sends a message that some countries won't tolerate middle eastern values, and i hope it will be expanded...my community will not tolerate me walking around naked, carrying my pistol, or driving at 150 mi/hr...i live in an all white neighborhood (for which i paid extra) but i must tolerate a hijab wearing clerk at my bank
@irishgodfatherchris ...the troublesome muslims are all from the middle east or the caucasus (chechens)...these people are proven terrorists or supporters...in the last century, communists were perceived as threats to world security and were banned in many countries...radical hijab, burqa wearing, muslims should be treated similarly
it is not important was was the intention... These ppl have right to wear burkas.... Wake up ppl - the problem is fascist West... (Australia is their colony) censorship, invigilation, wars for oil -- not the Muslims or Gays
However there is the article entitled: "Lies Concerning the History of the Soviet Union" by Mario Sousa (on the net). This article is absed upon over 9,000 pages of historic Soviet archives. The figures debunk bogus western statistics and categorically prove they are false.
And of course your precious imperialism never killed anyone right? lol. Can you provide a death toll(wars torture etc) for all the imperialist countries on earth?
@TheLaw055 sorry u r compliety idiot if u think that concentration camps were invated by Communism.. Learn history first... Conc. camps were first during Burr war in Africa it was UK investion...
In USSR was LAGERS, there wasnt gas chambers or other things to DELIBERATELY murder ppl like in nazi camps....
gas chamber are today in US prisons anyway, funnny isnt it?
@SzpakBarwnyPtak Comrad, You are correct, it was the Bastard British who first started to use concentration camps during the Boer waa in South Africa 1900 -1992.
@TheLaw055 Yes, the imperialist murdering Brits(Pat's crowd?) used concentration camps (called that?) during the south African war-which new zealand commerorates (Anzac Day Act 1966)
@Salahuddin07 you know how there's a approximately 3 million Muslim women in France, well the French Gendarme did a survey to find out just how many actually wore the full burqa have a wild stab in the dark as to how many there actually are.
@Salahuddin07 my point is this should be a non-issue, after all only 367 women (as stated by the Gendarmes themselves) in the entire French Republic actually wear the full burqa.
@irishgodfatherchris With respect, I think the real question is not how many wear or don't wear the full burqa, The real question is the burqa divisive,demeaning to women, & most important religious & therefore openly confrontational to our western secular society ??????
@TheLaw055 most western societies are not secular indeed there is nothing in the Qu'ran that says they have to wear the burqa its a matter of custom much the same as the exchange of wedding rings and so on. Its only divisive, demeaning and confrontational if you make it that
@mattsmoski3737 well tell me how many people did HItler and Mussolini kill? And they botjh were christians! I tell u why cuz ur religon is fucked up if u want the truth check "AHmed deedat " and muslims belive in prophet Jesus
I cant beleave how stupid people are for beleaving in religion, It's just a heap of lies that gulibble people commit there lives to. any religious documents should be burnt and forgotten, it would make the world a better place.
@CTNurainiK You are WRONG all Koran demands is that women should dress modestly.It does NOT define what constitutes modesty. The reason muslim women are covered from head to foot is CULTURAL ie. men are in charge & it's the men who determin what is modest & what is NOT.
@TheLaw055 Surah Al-Azaab (Surah 33 Ayat 33) : " And stay quietly in your houses, and make not a dazzling display, like that of the former Times of Ignorance; and establish regular Prayer, and give regular Charity; and obey Allah and His Messenger. And Allah only wishes to remove all abomination from you, ye members of the Family, and to make you pure and spotless."
It is not cultural. It is a demand stated in the following comment.
@TheLaw055 Surah Al-Azaab (Surah 33 Ayat 59) : " O Prophet! Tell thy wives and daughters, and the believing women, that they should cast their outer garments over their persons (when abroad): that is most convenient, that they should be known (as such) and not molested. And Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful."
@CTNurainiK What a crock of SHIT are you talking about ? Since when did muslim women (travel abroad) in the 6 century when Mohammed was around??? and even if they did, why do you and idiotic LUSTFUL Mohammed presume that women would be MOLESTED.?? only criminals and sexual deviants think in those perverse sexual terms. No wonder that Mohammed married a 9 year old girl. How do you explain that ????? I .
@TheLaw055 sure. the the makers of the laws were also LUSTFUL that they came up with a law to punish those who commit outrage of modesty? that the makers of law are also sexual deviants? then you are living in a disturbing country. The issue of Aisha (R.A) being 9 years old was deeply debated. If you want to speak in the ancient times, shouldn't you also use ancient calendars? How sure are you that they calculated age by 365 days for each and every calendar?
@TheLaw055 Cases of outrage of modesty often is sourced by the outfits the lady use, the places she visits, the crowd she mixes with, the limits she practise. The covering of face however is a little too much I have to agree But it is what that makes this women feels safe from sins of making other man look at her for dressing provocatively.
@CTNurainiK The problem with ISLAM in particular with muslim men is that they immidiatley sexualise females who are not covered.They cannot look at female beauty eg. a nude painting without getting an erection. This is why females cannot pray together with men in a mosque because if the female bends down( although covered )nevertheless,the muslim male automatically thinks of sex & molestation. To this I say,ISLAM is wrong/sexist/segregationist towards women. ISLAM is BACKWARD
@TheLaw055 Is it only muslim men that think of that way? how do you know its only muslim men? Aren't men all the same? wait, no you would say there are different types of men. same goes to say, there are different types of men out there regardless of religion. correct. I'm merely asking you to segregate this muslim men who actually claim they are but in practice, they are not. same goes for atheist, christians and other religions. its not religion that is sexist, the men are.
@TheLaw055 prevention is always better than cure. just like why you lock your door at night, just like why you save your money in a bank instead of keeping it at home. all in the name of prevention. so why is it wrong for a woman to choose to wear it to prevent evil? of course like i previously said, it does make people uncomfortable if they are not used to seeing it, and also with media feeding and focusing on the negativities of this men who commit such acts and staining the name of Islam.
@CTNurainiK WHAT constitutes PROVOCATIVE??????? If I see a beautiful woman why is it a sin to look at her and think or say: she is a beautiful woman ?????? According to Islam this is LUST therefore sin. To me I always think with my rational HEAD, the other smaller HEAD between my legs is emotional not rational. Thus, my argument, ISLAM & MUSLIMS generally are backward and NOT rational.
@TheLaw055 we appreciate beauty, but if beauty is already in the masses, will it be appreciated as much? why is it so wrong for a woman to only share her looks and beauty with only her husband? another reason for women to cover is also helping the men from committing a sin. we then kill two birds with one stone, women don't commit a sin, men don't commit a sin. i'm glad that you think with your head, but just stop to think, how isn't covering and being modest fair?
@TheLaw055 in fact women are respected more if they cover. unless you are talking about the middle east where women are oppressed. that's culture, its some middle eastern parts that practice this culture. do you see such acts in the asian parts, europe no? for this is the culture that middle east men practice. in Islam, a woman is respected, she gives birth to her husband's children, she is a loving daughter to her father.
@CTNurainiK ISLAM does NOT demand specific dress code for women, it only talks about modesty. For you muslims seeing women hair is enough to get an erection & in your warped thinking you justify raping her as being OK because it is her FAULT for not covering her hair. What a primitive & perverse Culture & Religion.
@TheLaw055 its not only hair that is to be covered, even the nape of the neck. if you study psychology, human have desires and wants. sometimes certain humans wants, may overpower their rational thinking and results in humans committing a crime. but a crime is not always committed if opportunity is not presented.
@TheLaw055 never did i mention that a woman rape is justified. its horrible and a disturbing act. we don't blame the women for not covering the hair but she herself would blame for not protecting herself. if she covers, she'll most likely be protected from evil, if she doesn't then, she is most likely on her own. evil can happen to anyone. you'll never know, so the best one can do is prevent.
@CTNurainiK You can cover your women as much as you want, But my whole point is NOT in our Western Secular Culture. Whether you like it or not we make distinction between our secular public life and our private religious life. So, if you live in the west, which I presume you do DO NOT try to impose your RELIGIOSITY on our Culture.
@TheLaw055 how can you say not? it was the culture of woman in the old ages to cover themselves. The woman of hebrew, christianity, they all covered themselves. Since you brought up about living in the west, I'm sre your law did not impose on you to practice covering yourself if you are a woman? the women are practising their religion, and you're the one thinking we are imposing on yours. funny, that we are the ones told to remove our religious belief just because the society demands it.
@CTNurainiK YES,if you decided to live in the west, you not only have to accept the laws but also it's Culture. In ancient times women did cover themselves, BUT this is 21 century Sir, (if you didn't know ) So, what we are talking about is "modesty" majority of western women dress modestly, therefore I see no problem for muslim women also to dress modestly in western clothes since they chose to live in the WEST.
@TheLaw055 who constitues this? that you have to accept culture? did the law of the country state it or is it your sentiments? why is there a need to change even if its 21st century? than I have to impose a law, "Should anyone continue using their hands to use their fork and spoon to ea,t will be prosecuted. Why, why do people still use their hands to eat nowadays?" Ridiculous? Precisely. if a malaysian woman goes to the west and wears her traditional clothes, should she be asked to remove them?
@CTNurainiK WELL don't bloody LIE you backward moronic muslim !! I visited Saudi Arabia & my sister had to cover herself. & we didn't object to that requirement BUT when you decide to come to the WEST next time, have some CULTURAL sensitivity for your MUSLIM dress is Offensive & you are Ramming your religion down my throat in my country, Which I am NOT ALLOWED to do in yours.
@TheLaw055 Western culture didn't define that you need to be dress a certain way. Western culture does not denote how a western women should dress in her own country. Western culture does not not impose on anyone. You can practice your own laws in your own country,
@CTNurainiK You Islamic dress is Islamic, therefore it's religious, therefore NOT western Christian, Therefore NOT appropriate to the Western Cultural Secularism where Religion & State are separate entities. But more important it's divisive religiously intrucive and confrontational to the western society because of your visible Islamic dress code.directly is challenging western Cultural tradition. Which, as you well know is not allowed in Islamic countries.
@TheLaw055 but our 'visible Islamic dress code' is not the constitution of law to decide, we do not decide on certain things. "Western Cultural Secularism where Religion & State are separate entities", you just contradicted yourself by this statement, it is 2 separate entities. just like "Western Cultural Secularism" is another separate entity from Islam. our hijab is again I say, not culture, it is a demand from religion. but you wouldn't get it, would you?
@TheLaw055 you can do whatever you want in your own country, this also constitues that woman in hijab in your country also follows the law of the state, that there is no such law of stating a woman must wear a skirt/trousers and put on shoes. or a law that states you must wear your shoes on the opposite sides of your feet. so even if your law states it, it already violates the first rule its stating out, freedom of choice and thus they create more oppression.
@TheLaw055 when you enter Saudi Arabia, where you clearly know there is a law that states anyone who comes in to our country must be dressed in a certain way, who are you to question saudi law? just like who are you to question the police if e.g. you were caught committing an offence. its law. You're suppose to have some respect. if not for others, at least for your own country laws.
@TheLaw055 Your term of modest and Islam terms of modest is clearly not the same. Just like you ask 10 different person from different backgrounds to read an instruction manual, they may all have different opinions and ways to perform the instructions. Just like how different you are in opposing hijab, but that doesn't mean all the 10 person is right, but they still choose to follow what they feel is right.
It just proves my point, Islam is given different interpretation by different (Men Imams) thus, no consistency. as to what constitutes Modesty ???? or for that matter any other theological concept are given different opinions. So, your muslin bedouin women garb OK centuries ago but NOT today.
@TheLaw055 our religion is not based on the interpretations or opinions of imams. human has no consistency, but the teachings of Prophet Muhammad (P.B.U.H) from Allah S.W.T. is consistent and absolute. Just that you need to understand, your understanding can fit the world, but can the world fit your understanding?
@TheLaw055 sorry to say but religion is not private. just like race is not private. its open. Religion cannot be altered by man, for it is, it is not religion. It should be called man-made religion. we do not impose western women to wear like we do in their own country but only in muslim countries. If you live in the west and you carry a weapon to defend yourself and come into for e.g malaysia, would you not be reprimanded? so you need to abide by the rules of the country.
@CTNurainiK You are not only a muslim but a stupid muslim ? When I say "private" I mean I don't go around in public with a large cross or T-shirt advertising Christianity.For eg. if I was a teacher in a public school & I had an print on my T- shirt " Christians are best" I am sure that you would object ???? Similarly, if a muslim wears hajibi etc.in public she is making a religious statement of being a muslin. This is not only rude but divisive to our western culture.
@TheLaw055 Yes, we humans are all born stupid but we learn, gain knowledge. "I don't go around in public with a large cross or T-shirt advertising Christianity." the difference is you may not, but there are others that do, how about a cross that the cristians wear across their necks or company logo's that symbolises any other religion, were they asked to remove them? NO. We don't go around with our hijab with words printed (Allah S.W.T. is great even though we know Allah S.W.T. is great,do we?)
@TheLaw055 you want to say rude? rude is provocating. how is wearing a hijab provocative. culture? you expect the whole world to be like the west? how can that be? its like telling your mom you want the chocolate ice cream but your mom says no and gives you a pancake instead. at least your mom is trying to tell you to eat real food before desserts, there is a logic and lesson there. but what lesson it is to claim to remove opression from women by taking away their rights to a choice?
@TheLaw055 sorry to say but religion is not private. just like race is not private. its open. Religion cannot be altered by man, for it is, it is not religion. It should be called man-made religion. we do not impose western women to wear like we do in their own country but only in muslim countries. If you live in the west and you carry a weapon to defend yourself and come into for e.g malaysia, would you not be reprimanded? so you need to abide by the rules of the country.
@TheLaw055 so if you enter an islamic country, which applies islamic laws, you have to abide by them. there was no laws impose on western women to hijab themselves in their own countries if they are not muslim. the muslim women who covers does not disturb you but it is the human mind that makes you think otherwise and negatively.
To understand the islamic veil you have to read Chahdorrt Djavann's and Chahla Chafiq, both women from Iran who live now in France.
They say that the veil is not religious but political. It shows women as sexual object only.
Chahla Chafiq asks "Why men don't wear a veil?" because they are humans with an individuality. Women are not seen as a human being with a unique personality, they are only females, a walking sex that need to be covered up.
Marching half naked and sometimes full naked in streets is OK. Selling obscene magazines publicly in OK. Muslim Women wearing Burka in public as a sign of Modesty, Now that is NOT OK. Suddenly the so called European Leaders who were "Champions of Life, Liberty & Freedom" became afraid,why ? Simply because they are afraid of Islam spreading. Justifying their actions by saying "its a security threat". Thats hypocrisy. Ever heard of a Muslim Woman refusing to remove her Burka at Security CheckPoint
@truthmychoice1 When my mother, wife , sister, nice, ( any female) goes to any muslim country they have to comply by covering themselves & I agree, because that is the Islamic culture. However, our western culture is Different in that females are NOT covered. So , please do NOT impose your CULTURAL ISLAMIC modesty on my western culture. I find that repulsive for " When in Rome do as the Romans do" OR PISS OFF.
@TheLaw055 if you do not wish to be impose by law, its simple, don't visit the country. just like if you commit an offence in a country, will you be judge by your laws or will you be judge by the laws of the country you have committed a crime in?
Leaders who do not impose this law of Islam in the Islamic country would be sin as he lets the sin be performed.
@CTNurainiK So, what you are saying is that in Islam you have the concept of collective SIN?????? If this is so can't you see that this is NOT a Religion but an ideology trying to control it's members. I say this because " Collective Sin " is practised in Communist North Korea whereby, if any person escapes from the country ALL of his family & relatives are punished or even put to death. For every person is created in the image of GOD & they alone are responsible for their actions.
@TheLaw055 " Collective Sin " if you put it that way, is correct BUT the one that gives the judgemnet is not in the hands of humans. what prove is this that Islam not a religion? if a country has laws that you don't agree with, does it means its not a country?
@TheLaw055 Honestly speaking, we are FAR FROM IMPOSING, all we are asking is to respect the rights of our Muslim Women who want to cover up themselves that way based on your allowed laws of Life, Liberty and Freedom. Why the leaders decide to make exception here when on other side they do not mind girls moving around in provocative and vulgar dressing (don't misinterpret me thinking I am stereotyping western women because there are good percentage of them who do not wear like that).
@truthmychoice1 No! We in the west live in a Culturally Christian but Publically Secular society. In other words, what we wear in public does NOT reflect our religion or religious beliefs, for they are private & are not openly boasted about in public. By muslim women wearing hajibs ,not only is confrotationa, but down right rude & offensive to our public secular society. BUT more importantly it's divisive & demeaning . If you CHOOSE to live in our society Join it, don't Divide it, or go back ?
@truthmychoice1 Female muslim attire is a religious statement NOT a fashion statement, That is why western society makes a distinction between SECULAR society & RELIGIOUS society such as Saudi Arabia where CULTURE, POLITICS, LAW, SOCIETY are all governed by the muslim religion. Nudity, if offensive to you don't look, or don't visit the west, OR don't LIVE in the west. BUT don't try to change it in a cunning dishonest way, for our liberty & freedoms also has limits.
West became fascist... I'm communist and I believe that ppl should be free to be Gays, Trans, Lesbian and the same free to believe in their religion, and wearing Burkas or what they only want...
@SzpakBarwnyPtak There is NOT much difference between Fascism & Communism. ie. Hitler , Mussolini - and- Stalin, Mao tze Tung, Pol Pot, Tito, just to name a few, But , again every person has FREE WILL so I suppose you can choose to be delusional.
@TheLaw055 There is no diffrenece between Capitalism and Fascism. Hitler were sponsored in 1933 by western English, French and American (of jewish provinence) finansist and bankers to destroy Communism in Germany.
Communist were first prisoners in Hitler's concetration camps not Jews!
@SzpakBarwnyPtak My dear young Comrad, Communism lasted from 1918 - 1990 It has killed between 100 to 135 million people in the world & still killing in North Korea .It has failed as an political ideology & political system. There is not much difference between Fascism & Communism in controlling societies. Capitalism with its many faults operates & continues to exist because there are NO better alternatives.
@SzpakBarwnyPtak It's ironical that you should mention " Concentration Camps " for your information it was a communist invention in1918 under the head of NKVD Felix Drzinsky who was a Polish Jew, loyal to Lenin & bolsheviks ( in reality bolsheviks were in MINORITY at the time ) Hitler copied the idea from the Communists.
@irishgodfatherchris Yes, you are correct it was the British BASTARDS who first started using concentration camps in South Africa during the Boer war 1900-1902
Islam's MAIN goal is to spread their beliefs everywhere. If you don't agree, then the sword will convince you. Islam is a modern JOKE, it is full of hypocritical zealots who cannot see or appreciate any other point of view. It is ARCHAIC and should be banned.
@arjoj10 I agree, ISLAM does NOT have the concept of FORGIVNESS - instead they have the concept of REVENGE, VIOLENCE, KILLING, ELIMINATING THE ENEMY.etc.
Not their fault?? Who'se fault is it then that they wear bags? We in the WEST like to SEE who we are talking to. Fuck off back to where you came from if you don't agree.
I find it difficult to post a letter in the black walking post box. Get it right we don't want it in Australia. If Mahommad was in Blacktown today he would be arrested for being a pedophile.
It is only time when there will be the same riots and bombs in Australia as in London. They have a piece of paper that says AUSTRALIAN. They will NEVER be AUSSIES
Numerical numbering first appeared in print in the work of the Muslim mathematicians’ al-Khwarizmi and al-Kindi around 825. There are many other contributions that Muslims have made but they are not given credit for it. Islam is about anything but violence. It is a religion of peace, but to the western world it has been portrayed as a religion that is only interested in violence. If Islam is a stupid religion than why are thousands of people converting to Islam every single day?
@WirlWind494 Learn to have some respect for people's religions. You said "Billions of flies eat shit.." you are referring to Islam as shit. Y did I even waste my time trying to answer a low life moron like you. We have not moved on from our religion because we know that it is the right path. Since the beginning of Islam the religion has not changed, the holy book has not changed because we are not like you's who change their holy book and religion as they go along. Now that is sad!
@jafarishabnam56 Way to totally miss the point of the analogy...
*whoosh*
And I don't have a holy book. I don't have a religion, or a god. And why should I have "respect" for what is essentially a popular fable that people believe without any tangible evidence?
The only thing that separates religious people from crazy people is the label of a church. I'm sure there are plenty of paranoid schizo's that talk to god every day.
@WirlWind494 You are here judging other people's religion when you don't even have a religion yourself. How would you even know what religion is about when you don't even have a God. Our religion is not some fable or legend. There is proof behind it and that is our Holy Book.
@jafarishabnam56 Just because I don't have a religion now, doesn't mean I've never had one. I gave it up when I realised there was no proof beyond "a book".
Happy potter has a bunch of books, doesn't make it true.
If I said "Prove to me your god exists right here and now" you wouldn't be able to do it beyond saying "the holy book" which was written by MEN.
It's a fable and a legend. Calling a book holy doesn't mean it's truth. It just means it's religion.
. Abū al-Rayḥān Muḥammad is known as the “founder of Indology” and the “first anthropologist”. Coffee was discovered by a Muslim named Khalid. The technique of inoculation was not invented by Jenner and Pasteur but was devised in the Muslim world and brought to Europe from Turkey by the wife of the English ambassador to Istanbul in 1724. Children in Turkey were vaccinated with cowpox to fight the deadly smallpox at least 50 years before the West discovered it.
I just realised, there are 1.1 billion Stupid Muslims in the world today. Because of their DUMB backward religion. They have lowered the average worlds I.Q. by 20%. In today's world there is NO room for dogmatic theocracy such as ISLAM. In the last 150 years what contribution has ISLAM made to: Science? Technology? Education? Philosophy? Law? Theology? etc. the answer is NOTHING. All they do, and do well is VIOLENCE. Yet, they are trying to convince others of the virtues of ISLAM.
You say that Muslims have not made any contributions to Science, Mathematics, Education and so forth. Well, let me tell you that some of the most well-known Mathematical concepts were developed by Muslims, Abū ʿAbdallāh Muḥammad also known as the father of algebra introduced the decimal positional number system to the Western world. His work presented the first systematic solution to linear and quadratic equations in arabic.
@jafarishabnam56 Like a typical average stupid Muslim, I said : In the " 150 YEARS " what contribution has ISLAM made?????? Please read the QUESTION before you decide to answer it ???? You are right about Abu Abdallah BUT he lived in the 9th century NOT last 150 years. Further the concept of "0" zero & numbering is an invention of Arab Muslims. But my point is that that WORLD has moved on so much from 5 century Mohommeds time, Yet , ISLAM & muslims have NOT , I repeat have NOT. That is sad.
"Most muslim women are happy to take their burka's off for security reasons" which is why mulism women have been suing governments and agencies around the world for asking them to take off the burka's to be identified. I can't walk around with my face covered, I'd get arrested. So why are Muslim's allowed to when their isn't even any mention of wearing Burka's in the Qu'ran? Muslim's should have to follow the law the same as everyone else. No one has complete freedom in what they choose to wear.
Looks like there is no such thing a freedom of self expression in Britian....you have the freedom to be british, and thats it! Imagine your wife didnt even want anyone esle to see her except her man, as opposed to worring is that kid mine? As to the feelings of hate, I would ask how it affects you physically? One teacher used to say when a child would cry, is there blood? is there a bump? no? He's Fine. Just as many planes have crashed into buildings that were driven by christians
How does wearing the hijab or burka ram down their religion down your throat?? I take it then that all mosques and churches ought to covered in veils so they don't upset u either???
If i see a billboard poster with a scantily dressed woman on it, isn't that ramming your belief down my throat also??? It's your belief , or lack of belief, that makes you think that a half naked woman is completely acceptable on billboards.
@ZaneIsSane Sir, you are not only illogical in your argument , but it looks like you are also a Stupid, Dogmatic Muslim. I say this because, all western societies are still culturally CHRISTIAN , yet you don't see Catholics, Baptists, Methodist etc. wearing distinctive "Christian" clothes. As far as" naked billboards" are concerned these are adds & not people walking NAKED down the street. BUT more importantly if you are a Muslim in western society, then: "When in Rome do as the Romans do".
@ZaneIsSane I loathe the veil, the burka, the niqab and all outward expressions of Islam because of the utter hypocrisy it represents. Islam CLAIMS to be a beacon of modesty! But how is it at ALL modest to sashay across a non-Muslim country with the intent of showcasing what you see as your own superiority? In non-Muslim countries wearing a burka is the OPPOSITE of modesty. It's "in your face, I'm a Muslimah, deal with it!" It's offensive. Why not respect OUR culture?
What is actually wrong ab9out said half naked girl on billboard? why do you have a problem with female beauty? what about adds with half dressed guys all muscelly to appeal to girls?
Why not say no fair girls wantn to see more guys?
And note... said girl probably earning more money than guys her age for less work.
Beauty is fun, it helps gets guys and girls together and gives girls power over guys
I dont know about you guys but im depressed to see a country getting taken over by Muslims, yet again immirgrants in general... Frances history everything they fought for now these scum have come to take it over, ill deport them all if I had the power.....
the muslims are always complaining about suffering racist actions but try to go to a muslim country and it s all the same crap so stop crying and maybe stop doing the same. or as a white go to brooklin and some black people are gonna start mocking u or maybe robbing u. or yids they r killing palestines everyday.
First step: It's only girls that are willing that wear the veil
Second step:Muslim girls are all forced to wear the veil to not get bullied by the community/family
Third: In neighbourhood where there are a lot of muslims, it is now western women are bullied by young muslims unless they start wearing veils themseleves
Fourth: At the end, the Islamists have succeded through intimidation in creating sharia-ruled ghettos or state upon state.
@opteronx "why do women priest in church cover the head ?" I don't care if they engage in gay sex while running around naked in whatever "holy site" they go to (no children under 18, animals or adults who don't want to participate of course) in their own time
The Burqa is a symbol of oppression. If it is so "great" why don't muslim men wear it?
So what do you do to the poor kids that get raped in Arab countries I won't call them women many aren't they are still children. You stone them until they are until they are just a bloody pile of meat and bone. You cut their throats. The women here have a choice how they dress and get treated you know the score I act decently and dress decently I expect to be treated decently but not because I was pressured into it.
@GudMuzlim786 Sir, if my wife, daughter, sister etc. goes to a muslim country then it's OK for them to be covered, I AGREE........ BUT ,BUT when a muslim female comes to our wester/ Christian country Please, do not impose your CULTURE on us. As the saying goes " When in Rome do as the Romans do".
@TheLaw055 What I meant was ISLAM hates compromise in another country like France or US, but more importantly ISLAM hates choice and freedom to choose.
@fvillag1 I totally agree, ISLAM is dogmatic in it's theology & there is no room for constructive argument, or theological compromise in interpreting the Koran. Thus, the violence,and Anti - All Other Religions, Cultures, Law, Politics, Education etc.
@TheLaw055 Brother, I strongly recommend you to watch this video - /watch?v=IGGyNm_z8Os
I also saw another video which argued against the headscarf ban stating that it's ridiculous and disgraceful as there are many different types of groups around the world that wear the headscarf for various reasons including: religious, cultural and health related. Unfortunately I cannot find this video on YouTube. Maybe you will understand after this message and think different than you did before.
@GudMuzlim786 By wearing" distinctive clothes" you are telling /advertising/ramming your Islamic religiosity down my throat.The only people who CAN wear "distinctive clothes" are the Clergy NOT the public. By being distinctive, this leads to social aparthide, & divisivness, & breakdown of ones Cultural identity, Thus, when western women go to Islamic countries they have to comply with the rules. So , sir you have to comply with our western custom & culture. O.K.
I agree but is your caps lock stuck on. You don't have to shout. Maybe the men should make a fashion statement to prove their beliefs too wouldnt be too many Muslims then. Im sure I could design something ugly and confining and uncomfortable enough for them.
WHY ITS HOLY FOR A HUSBAN TO BEAT HIS WIFE OR MAYBE CUT HER HEAD OFF ITS TRUE ISLAM WAYS OF LIFE I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE A TV SHOW SICK OF YOUR WIFE BEAT HER UP CUT HER HEAD OFF IT WOULD GET GREAT RATINGS DONT YA THINK WE COULD CALL IT MUSLIM DEVORCE OR SOMETHING G!
THE MUSLIMS ARE TRYING TO OVERTHROW ALL GOVTS ON THE EARTH MUSLIMS HATE ALL OF YOU AND ALL YOU DO IS LET THEM DO ANYTHING THEY WANT BUT NOT ANYMORE! WELL I GEUSS EUROPE IS FINALLY WAKING UP WHATS WRONG WOMEN OF EUROPE DONT YOU WANT TO BE SHOT IN THE HEAD 4 SHARIA LAW AND RAPED FROM TIME 2 TIME AND NOT PROVE IT OH AND OFCOARSE BEING BEATEN BY YOUR HUSBAND IS ALL THE RAGE COME ON YOU WILL LIKE IT ITS FUN RIGHT G!
Good for the Frenchies. We have to abide by their laws and customs over there no matter how barbaric. No ones forcing then to live here. Personally I find then creepy. A bit like cousin It on the munsters.
France banned Burqa because they are Islamaphobic dogs
the Hijab n Burqa should never ever be banned, it is customery of Islam, if u ban Burqa n Hijab, then ban other Christian, Hindu n Jewish things, dont discriminate against muslims, u kaffir sharmutas
@AssyrianKingz13 Yes ban ANYTHING whihc encourages sexsim , repression and segregstion, however its mainly the burka that does this, a little crescent necklance or corss necklace is not a problem, a turban is only an issue with healht and sdafety ie crash helments
Ilsm encourages its fobia by the sexisim, homophobia, repression, terrorisim, flogign women for trousers, driving, attacking young unmarried couples etc.
@AssyrianKingz13 Sir, I assume you live in a Western Christian country, if this is correct than, under what authority are you demanding and telling US not to ban the burqa ?????? Remember, you are a guest in a foreign ( Culturally Christian) country ?????? Second, in western countries it is ONLY the clergy who wear identifiable religious clothes, NOT the public. So, STOP ramming your 500 years backward Islam down my throat. You great unwashed.
@AssyrianKingz13 And just incase you're not a troll, then you're some spastic freak-out muslim type who view any criticism as racism...
Go look up the word. I never once mentioned race in that comment. And everyone keeps saying they're "religious" clothing so that's not racist either.
And personally, I think religious people of all kinds are stupid for believing a magic invisible man in the sky controls them and cares about them, but to each their own.
its funny how people CAN understand when women strip naked to sell newspapers but CANT understand when Muslim women wear extra piece of clothing to guard their honor and modesty.. its like the world has turned upside down... and they all hide behind the security issue.. do me a favor!!
You see only muslsim are so dumb they cant see anythign in between burka and nakedness. I never see naked folk on public
No such thing as modesty it just means submissive, nothign good about it and what the hell has sex got to do with honour.?
Honour is not cheating folk or being a currpt politician.
Girls use sexaulity to control guys be it yoru newspaper or gettign guys to carry their books, let them off fines, get into clubs gettign guys to back down in argument etc
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lol ahahha who gives a shyt about the burka man
theree fin terrorists
Axebodyspraification 16 hours ago
Ban islam
iMaNeRDsc2 1 day ago
Ban islam
CallumJ230 1 day ago
The woman is a trouble maker, can a man walk around with his zip down and his old feller hangin out? I DON'T THINK SO! SO there are dress standards. To be British meant to be fair, they were, they invited these other people in, and now these people are saying, KEEP being fair, because WE WONT! She needs a good swift kick and a trip to Iran for 20 years!
Sq12Sq22u22 1 day ago
@Sq12Sq22u22 - she's french irish and grew up in london you dumb fuck. she's not middle eastern at all and neither is her family.
there certainly are dress standards, and nakedness (like zipper down having your penis hanging out) obviously defies those standards. wearing a head scarf or veil hardly defies those standards.
bigboss370 13 hours ago
@bigboss370 Did I say she WAS Middle Eastern, obviously you can't define what you read. And AS AN OPINION it does defy dress standards as a relevance of the culture of the country in which she lives! It is merely that she and people like YOU try to shove YOUR opinions on other people while yourselves having no capacity to consider an alternate point of view! The denial of another point of view by people LIKE you has now caused a backlash from those like me, and we are getting like YOU!
Sq12Sq22u22 5 hours ago
@bigboss370 And what a dam shame we ARE getting like you!!! By the method employed by ignorant, demanding people who would never enter into moderation or compromise and insist on their own way and wont brook criticism, the only way, ultimately, is to employ the same methods when dialogue of tolerance fails!
Sq12Sq22u22 5 hours ago
Irishgodfatherchris is a Muslim supporter.
What a tosser.
Why doesn't he go and live in a Muslim country and take another tosser called sharia4australia with him.
azamatmankini 1 day ago
Is it not extreme to wear mini skirts upto the buttocks?
What about the blouse shwoing half of the breasts?
salahuddin786 2 days ago
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@salahuddin786 only white trash dress like that sorry but im sikh....i find it offensive how u generalize alll people in the west as trash
are all people in the middle east...pedophile worshipping terrorists huh???
Axebodyspraification 15 hours ago
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muhamad has been to hell. What do you think that means?
al-Bukhaari and Muslim report from Usaamah ibn Zayd that the muhamad said "I stood at the gate of Hell, and saw that most of those who entered were women".
33heis 3 days ago
for once the french have gotten it right...halloween costumes belong on kids
jethro035181 4 days ago
@jethro035181 ah yes the French have banned an item that less than 400 of their citizens wear, sounds self defeating and pointless to me.
irishgodfatherchris 3 days ago
@irishgodfatherchris ...france, as well as turkey and some north african countries have also banned the hijab in their public schools...french citizens have the right to express in law their community values and muslim immigrants should respect these whether they're pointless or not...muslims seem to enjoy pushing their religion in everyones face and too many western governments are too tolerant of this...normal citizens in western countries leave their religion at home
jethro035181 3 days ago
@jethro035181 you haven't been to Germany, France, Spain, Portugal, the US, Greece, Italy or Ireland then have you
irishgodfatherchris 3 days ago
@irishgodfatherchris ...that's exactly the point, too much tolerance and political correctness, and the french are finally doing something about it...france prohibits the wearing of crucifixes in public schools but these jerks want to wear religious headscarves...as economic conditions become harsher, i think a major back lash will occur on these countries...the US prohibits face masks in public (a holdover from the kkk) and there is fairly open hostility to muslims...
jethro035181 3 days ago
@jethro035181 but it seems like a wasted effort to ban an item of clothing when less than 400 French citizens actually wear it in the first place
irishgodfatherchris 3 days ago
@irishgodfatherchris ..ok..at face value banning the burqa doesn't accomplish that much, but you have to start somewhere...it at least sends a message that some countries won't tolerate middle eastern values, and i hope it will be expanded...my community will not tolerate me walking around naked, carrying my pistol, or driving at 150 mi/hr...i live in an all white neighborhood (for which i paid extra) but i must tolerate a hijab wearing clerk at my bank
jethro035181 2 days ago
@jethro035181 most Muslims are not from the Middle East.
irishgodfatherchris 2 days ago
@irishgodfatherchris ...the troublesome muslims are all from the middle east or the caucasus (chechens)...these people are proven terrorists or supporters...in the last century, communists were perceived as threats to world security and were banned in many countries...radical hijab, burqa wearing, muslims should be treated similarly
jethro035181 2 days ago
it is not important was was the intention... These ppl have right to wear burkas.... Wake up ppl - the problem is fascist West... (Australia is their colony) censorship, invigilation, wars for oil -- not the Muslims or Gays
SzpakBarwnyPtak 4 days ago
the real question is this: what was ans what is the intention behind the design of the burka?
COMMUNISTPHILOSOPHY 5 days ago
@COMMUNISTPHILOSOPHY What stage of your law course are you up to ???
TheLaw055 4 days ago
Communism did NOT kill 100 million finally get that through your skulls-and it can be proved as well.
Now work out the death toll for capitalism/imperialism, go to MaoistRebelNews channel and look at the figures.
COMMUNISTPHILOSOPHY 5 days ago
@COMMUNISTPHILOSOPHY Please enlighten me and tell me how many millions did the Communist kill ???????
TheLaw055 5 days ago
@TheLaw055 thats difficult to say.
However there is the article entitled: "Lies Concerning the History of the Soviet Union" by Mario Sousa (on the net). This article is absed upon over 9,000 pages of historic Soviet archives. The figures debunk bogus western statistics and categorically prove they are false.
And of course your precious imperialism never killed anyone right? lol. Can you provide a death toll(wars torture etc) for all the imperialist countries on earth?
COMMUNISTPHILOSOPHY 4 days ago
@TheLaw055 sorry u r compliety idiot if u think that concentration camps were invated by Communism.. Learn history first... Conc. camps were first during Burr war in Africa it was UK investion...
In USSR was LAGERS, there wasnt gas chambers or other things to DELIBERATELY murder ppl like in nazi camps....
gas chamber are today in US prisons anyway, funnny isnt it?
SzpakBarwnyPtak 5 days ago
@SzpakBarwnyPtak Comrad, You are correct, it was the Bastard British who first started to use concentration camps during the Boer waa in South Africa 1900 -1992.
TheLaw055 5 days ago
@TheLaw055 Yes, the imperialist murdering Brits(Pat's crowd?) used concentration camps (called that?) during the south African war-which new zealand commerorates (Anzac Day Act 1966)
COMMUNISTPHILOSOPHY 4 days ago
its wrong to force women to wear it. but its not wrong to force women who CHOOSE to wear it, to remove it..
double standards at its best.
Salahuddin07 5 days ago
@Salahuddin07 you know how there's a approximately 3 million Muslim women in France, well the French Gendarme did a survey to find out just how many actually wore the full burqa have a wild stab in the dark as to how many there actually are.
irishgodfatherchris 5 days ago
@irishgodfatherchris
check your numbers again its not.
Salahuddin07 5 days ago
@Salahuddin07 my point is this should be a non-issue, after all only 367 women (as stated by the Gendarmes themselves) in the entire French Republic actually wear the full burqa.
irishgodfatherchris 4 days ago
@irishgodfatherchris With respect, I think the real question is not how many wear or don't wear the full burqa, The real question is the burqa divisive,demeaning to women, & most important religious & therefore openly confrontational to our western secular society ??????
TheLaw055 4 days ago
@TheLaw055 most western societies are not secular indeed there is nothing in the Qu'ran that says they have to wear the burqa its a matter of custom much the same as the exchange of wedding rings and so on. Its only divisive, demeaning and confrontational if you make it that
irishgodfatherchris 3 days ago
@mattsmoski3737 well tell me how many people did HItler and Mussolini kill? And they botjh were christians! I tell u why cuz ur religon is fucked up if u want the truth check "AHmed deedat " and muslims belive in prophet Jesus
iFezzzz 1 week ago
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I cant beleave how stupid people are for beleaving in religion, It's just a heap of lies that gulibble people commit there lives to. any religious documents should be burnt and forgotten, it would make the world a better place.
Boothswelding 1 week ago
Ban the burka, why because it is easy for a bomber to hide. If muslims were peacful it would not be such a problem.
mattsmoski3737 1 week ago
@mattsmoski3737 but WTC was blew up by CIA and MOSSAD so wheres the problem? BAN CIA first...
SzpakBarwnyPtak 5 days ago
Islam as a religion demands a woman to cover ther 'aurah', the only parts of a muslim woman other man can see is the face, and hand palm.
CTNurainiK 1 week ago
@CTNurainiK You are WRONG all Koran demands is that women should dress modestly.It does NOT define what constitutes modesty. The reason muslim women are covered from head to foot is CULTURAL ie. men are in charge & it's the men who determin what is modest & what is NOT.
TheLaw055 1 week ago
@TheLaw055 Surah Al-Azaab (Surah 33 Ayat 33) : " And stay quietly in your houses, and make not a dazzling display, like that of the former Times of Ignorance; and establish regular Prayer, and give regular Charity; and obey Allah and His Messenger. And Allah only wishes to remove all abomination from you, ye members of the Family, and to make you pure and spotless."
It is not cultural. It is a demand stated in the following comment.
CTNurainiK 1 week ago
@TheLaw055 Surah Al-Azaab (Surah 33 Ayat 59) : " O Prophet! Tell thy wives and daughters, and the believing women, that they should cast their outer garments over their persons (when abroad): that is most convenient, that they should be known (as such) and not molested. And Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful."
CTNurainiK 1 week ago
@CTNurainiK What a crock of SHIT are you talking about ? Since when did muslim women (travel abroad) in the 6 century when Mohammed was around??? and even if they did, why do you and idiotic LUSTFUL Mohammed presume that women would be MOLESTED.?? only criminals and sexual deviants think in those perverse sexual terms. No wonder that Mohammed married a 9 year old girl. How do you explain that ????? I .
TheLaw055 1 week ago
@TheLaw055 sure. the the makers of the laws were also LUSTFUL that they came up with a law to punish those who commit outrage of modesty? that the makers of law are also sexual deviants? then you are living in a disturbing country. The issue of Aisha (R.A) being 9 years old was deeply debated. If you want to speak in the ancient times, shouldn't you also use ancient calendars? How sure are you that they calculated age by 365 days for each and every calendar?
CTNurainiK 1 week ago
@TheLaw055 Cases of outrage of modesty often is sourced by the outfits the lady use, the places she visits, the crowd she mixes with, the limits she practise. The covering of face however is a little too much I have to agree But it is what that makes this women feels safe from sins of making other man look at her for dressing provocatively.
CTNurainiK 1 week ago
@CTNurainiK The problem with ISLAM in particular with muslim men is that they immidiatley sexualise females who are not covered.They cannot look at female beauty eg. a nude painting without getting an erection. This is why females cannot pray together with men in a mosque because if the female bends down( although covered )nevertheless,the muslim male automatically thinks of sex & molestation. To this I say,ISLAM is wrong/sexist/segregationist towards women. ISLAM is BACKWARD
TheLaw055 1 week ago
@TheLaw055 Is it only muslim men that think of that way? how do you know its only muslim men? Aren't men all the same? wait, no you would say there are different types of men. same goes to say, there are different types of men out there regardless of religion. correct. I'm merely asking you to segregate this muslim men who actually claim they are but in practice, they are not. same goes for atheist, christians and other religions. its not religion that is sexist, the men are.
CTNurainiK 1 week ago
@TheLaw055 prevention is always better than cure. just like why you lock your door at night, just like why you save your money in a bank instead of keeping it at home. all in the name of prevention. so why is it wrong for a woman to choose to wear it to prevent evil? of course like i previously said, it does make people uncomfortable if they are not used to seeing it, and also with media feeding and focusing on the negativities of this men who commit such acts and staining the name of Islam.
CTNurainiK 1 week ago
@CTNurainiK WHAT constitutes PROVOCATIVE??????? If I see a beautiful woman why is it a sin to look at her and think or say: she is a beautiful woman ?????? According to Islam this is LUST therefore sin. To me I always think with my rational HEAD, the other smaller HEAD between my legs is emotional not rational. Thus, my argument, ISLAM & MUSLIMS generally are backward and NOT rational.
TheLaw055 1 week ago
@TheLaw055 we appreciate beauty, but if beauty is already in the masses, will it be appreciated as much? why is it so wrong for a woman to only share her looks and beauty with only her husband? another reason for women to cover is also helping the men from committing a sin. we then kill two birds with one stone, women don't commit a sin, men don't commit a sin. i'm glad that you think with your head, but just stop to think, how isn't covering and being modest fair?
CTNurainiK 1 week ago
@TheLaw055 in fact women are respected more if they cover. unless you are talking about the middle east where women are oppressed. that's culture, its some middle eastern parts that practice this culture. do you see such acts in the asian parts, europe no? for this is the culture that middle east men practice. in Islam, a woman is respected, she gives birth to her husband's children, she is a loving daughter to her father.
CTNurainiK 1 week ago
@CTNurainiK ISLAM does NOT demand specific dress code for women, it only talks about modesty. For you muslims seeing women hair is enough to get an erection & in your warped thinking you justify raping her as being OK because it is her FAULT for not covering her hair. What a primitive & perverse Culture & Religion.
TheLaw055 1 week ago
@TheLaw055 its not only hair that is to be covered, even the nape of the neck. if you study psychology, human have desires and wants. sometimes certain humans wants, may overpower their rational thinking and results in humans committing a crime. but a crime is not always committed if opportunity is not presented.
CTNurainiK 1 week ago
@TheLaw055 never did i mention that a woman rape is justified. its horrible and a disturbing act. we don't blame the women for not covering the hair but she herself would blame for not protecting herself. if she covers, she'll most likely be protected from evil, if she doesn't then, she is most likely on her own. evil can happen to anyone. you'll never know, so the best one can do is prevent.
CTNurainiK 1 week ago
@CTNurainiK You can cover your women as much as you want, But my whole point is NOT in our Western Secular Culture. Whether you like it or not we make distinction between our secular public life and our private religious life. So, if you live in the west, which I presume you do DO NOT try to impose your RELIGIOSITY on our Culture.
TheLaw055 1 week ago
@TheLaw055 how can you say not? it was the culture of woman in the old ages to cover themselves. The woman of hebrew, christianity, they all covered themselves. Since you brought up about living in the west, I'm sre your law did not impose on you to practice covering yourself if you are a woman? the women are practising their religion, and you're the one thinking we are imposing on yours. funny, that we are the ones told to remove our religious belief just because the society demands it.
CTNurainiK 1 week ago
@CTNurainiK YES,if you decided to live in the west, you not only have to accept the laws but also it's Culture. In ancient times women did cover themselves, BUT this is 21 century Sir, (if you didn't know ) So, what we are talking about is "modesty" majority of western women dress modestly, therefore I see no problem for muslim women also to dress modestly in western clothes since they chose to live in the WEST.
TheLaw055 1 week ago
@TheLaw055 who constitues this? that you have to accept culture? did the law of the country state it or is it your sentiments? why is there a need to change even if its 21st century? than I have to impose a law, "Should anyone continue using their hands to use their fork and spoon to ea,t will be prosecuted. Why, why do people still use their hands to eat nowadays?" Ridiculous? Precisely. if a malaysian woman goes to the west and wears her traditional clothes, should she be asked to remove them?
CTNurainiK 1 week ago
@CTNurainiK WELL don't bloody LIE you backward moronic muslim !! I visited Saudi Arabia & my sister had to cover herself. & we didn't object to that requirement BUT when you decide to come to the WEST next time, have some CULTURAL sensitivity for your MUSLIM dress is Offensive & you are Ramming your religion down my throat in my country, Which I am NOT ALLOWED to do in yours.
TheLaw055 1 week ago
@TheLaw055 Western culture didn't define that you need to be dress a certain way. Western culture does not denote how a western women should dress in her own country. Western culture does not not impose on anyone. You can practice your own laws in your own country,
CTNurainiK 1 week ago
@CTNurainiK You Islamic dress is Islamic, therefore it's religious, therefore NOT western Christian, Therefore NOT appropriate to the Western Cultural Secularism where Religion & State are separate entities. But more important it's divisive religiously intrucive and confrontational to the western society because of your visible Islamic dress code.directly is challenging western Cultural tradition. Which, as you well know is not allowed in Islamic countries.
TheLaw055 1 week ago
@TheLaw055 but our 'visible Islamic dress code' is not the constitution of law to decide, we do not decide on certain things. "Western Cultural Secularism where Religion & State are separate entities", you just contradicted yourself by this statement, it is 2 separate entities. just like "Western Cultural Secularism" is another separate entity from Islam. our hijab is again I say, not culture, it is a demand from religion. but you wouldn't get it, would you?
CTNurainiK 1 week ago
@TheLaw055 you can do whatever you want in your own country, this also constitues that woman in hijab in your country also follows the law of the state, that there is no such law of stating a woman must wear a skirt/trousers and put on shoes. or a law that states you must wear your shoes on the opposite sides of your feet. so even if your law states it, it already violates the first rule its stating out, freedom of choice and thus they create more oppression.
CTNurainiK 1 week ago
@TheLaw055 when you enter Saudi Arabia, where you clearly know there is a law that states anyone who comes in to our country must be dressed in a certain way, who are you to question saudi law? just like who are you to question the police if e.g. you were caught committing an offence. its law. You're suppose to have some respect. if not for others, at least for your own country laws.
CTNurainiK 1 week ago
@TheLaw055 Your term of modest and Islam terms of modest is clearly not the same. Just like you ask 10 different person from different backgrounds to read an instruction manual, they may all have different opinions and ways to perform the instructions. Just like how different you are in opposing hijab, but that doesn't mean all the 10 person is right, but they still choose to follow what they feel is right.
CTNurainiK 1 week ago
It just proves my point, Islam is given different interpretation by different (Men Imams) thus, no consistency. as to what constitutes Modesty ???? or for that matter any other theological concept are given different opinions. So, your muslin bedouin women garb OK centuries ago but NOT today.
TheLaw055 1 week ago
@TheLaw055 our religion is not based on the interpretations or opinions of imams. human has no consistency, but the teachings of Prophet Muhammad (P.B.U.H) from Allah S.W.T. is consistent and absolute. Just that you need to understand, your understanding can fit the world, but can the world fit your understanding?
CTNurainiK 1 week ago
@TheLaw055 sorry to say but religion is not private. just like race is not private. its open. Religion cannot be altered by man, for it is, it is not religion. It should be called man-made religion. we do not impose western women to wear like we do in their own country but only in muslim countries. If you live in the west and you carry a weapon to defend yourself and come into for e.g malaysia, would you not be reprimanded? so you need to abide by the rules of the country.
CTNurainiK 1 week ago
@CTNurainiK You are not only a muslim but a stupid muslim ? When I say "private" I mean I don't go around in public with a large cross or T-shirt advertising Christianity.For eg. if I was a teacher in a public school & I had an print on my T- shirt " Christians are best" I am sure that you would object ???? Similarly, if a muslim wears hajibi etc.in public she is making a religious statement of being a muslin. This is not only rude but divisive to our western culture.
TheLaw055 1 week ago
@TheLaw055 Yes, we humans are all born stupid but we learn, gain knowledge. "I don't go around in public with a large cross or T-shirt advertising Christianity." the difference is you may not, but there are others that do, how about a cross that the cristians wear across their necks or company logo's that symbolises any other religion, were they asked to remove them? NO. We don't go around with our hijab with words printed (Allah S.W.T. is great even though we know Allah S.W.T. is great,do we?)
CTNurainiK 1 week ago
@TheLaw055 you want to say rude? rude is provocating. how is wearing a hijab provocative. culture? you expect the whole world to be like the west? how can that be? its like telling your mom you want the chocolate ice cream but your mom says no and gives you a pancake instead. at least your mom is trying to tell you to eat real food before desserts, there is a logic and lesson there. but what lesson it is to claim to remove opression from women by taking away their rights to a choice?
CTNurainiK 1 week ago
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@TheLaw055 sorry to say but religion is not private. just like race is not private. its open. Religion cannot be altered by man, for it is, it is not religion. It should be called man-made religion. we do not impose western women to wear like we do in their own country but only in muslim countries. If you live in the west and you carry a weapon to defend yourself and come into for e.g malaysia, would you not be reprimanded? so you need to abide by the rules of the country.
CTNurainiK 1 week ago
@TheLaw055 so if you enter an islamic country, which applies islamic laws, you have to abide by them. there was no laws impose on western women to hijab themselves in their own countries if they are not muslim. the muslim women who covers does not disturb you but it is the human mind that makes you think otherwise and negatively.
CTNurainiK 1 week ago
Anti western eh yet they go to a store and BUY more burqa.
YamiPoyo 1 week ago
To understand the islamic veil you have to read Chahdorrt Djavann's and Chahla Chafiq, both women from Iran who live now in France.
They say that the veil is not religious but political. It shows women as sexual object only.
Chahla Chafiq asks "Why men don't wear a veil?" because they are humans with an individuality. Women are not seen as a human being with a unique personality, they are only females, a walking sex that need to be covered up.
/watch?v=yWOTXcLy-gg&feature=channel_video_title
arbresistance 1 week ago
TROLLEY TROLLEY
tahirhamsa1 1 week ago
Marching half naked and sometimes full naked in streets is OK. Selling obscene magazines publicly in OK. Muslim Women wearing Burka in public as a sign of Modesty, Now that is NOT OK. Suddenly the so called European Leaders who were "Champions of Life, Liberty & Freedom" became afraid,why ? Simply because they are afraid of Islam spreading. Justifying their actions by saying "its a security threat". Thats hypocrisy. Ever heard of a Muslim Woman refusing to remove her Burka at Security CheckPoint
truthmychoice1 1 week ago
@truthmychoice1 When my mother, wife , sister, nice, ( any female) goes to any muslim country they have to comply by covering themselves & I agree, because that is the Islamic culture. However, our western culture is Different in that females are NOT covered. So , please do NOT impose your CULTURAL ISLAMIC modesty on my western culture. I find that repulsive for " When in Rome do as the Romans do" OR PISS OFF.
TheLaw055 1 week ago
@TheLaw055 if you do not wish to be impose by law, its simple, don't visit the country. just like if you commit an offence in a country, will you be judge by your laws or will you be judge by the laws of the country you have committed a crime in?
Leaders who do not impose this law of Islam in the Islamic country would be sin as he lets the sin be performed.
CTNurainiK 1 week ago
@TheLaw055 in islam, your sin is not your own. if you are a believer and you let apostasy , he will be implicated. why can't you respect it laws?
CTNurainiK 1 week ago
@CTNurainiK So, what you are saying is that in Islam you have the concept of collective SIN?????? If this is so can't you see that this is NOT a Religion but an ideology trying to control it's members. I say this because " Collective Sin " is practised in Communist North Korea whereby, if any person escapes from the country ALL of his family & relatives are punished or even put to death. For every person is created in the image of GOD & they alone are responsible for their actions.
TheLaw055 1 week ago
@TheLaw055 " Collective Sin " if you put it that way, is correct BUT the one that gives the judgemnet is not in the hands of humans. what prove is this that Islam not a religion? if a country has laws that you don't agree with, does it means its not a country?
CTNurainiK 1 week ago
@TheLaw055 Honestly speaking, we are FAR FROM IMPOSING, all we are asking is to respect the rights of our Muslim Women who want to cover up themselves that way based on your allowed laws of Life, Liberty and Freedom. Why the leaders decide to make exception here when on other side they do not mind girls moving around in provocative and vulgar dressing (don't misinterpret me thinking I am stereotyping western women because there are good percentage of them who do not wear like that).
truthmychoice1 1 week ago
@truthmychoice1 No! We in the west live in a Culturally Christian but Publically Secular society. In other words, what we wear in public does NOT reflect our religion or religious beliefs, for they are private & are not openly boasted about in public. By muslim women wearing hajibs ,not only is confrotationa, but down right rude & offensive to our public secular society. BUT more importantly it's divisive & demeaning . If you CHOOSE to live in our society Join it, don't Divide it, or go back ?
TheLaw055 1 week ago
@truthmychoice1 Female muslim attire is a religious statement NOT a fashion statement, That is why western society makes a distinction between SECULAR society & RELIGIOUS society such as Saudi Arabia where CULTURE, POLITICS, LAW, SOCIETY are all governed by the muslim religion. Nudity, if offensive to you don't look, or don't visit the west, OR don't LIVE in the west. BUT don't try to change it in a cunning dishonest way, for our liberty & freedoms also has limits.
TheLaw055 1 week ago
Country or culture who is afraid of Gays, Trans, Lesbian or Muslim and knows better what u should wear is pure nazi facism.
SzpakBarwnyPtak 1 week ago
West became fascist... I'm communist and I believe that ppl should be free to be Gays, Trans, Lesbian and the same free to believe in their religion, and wearing Burkas or what they only want...
SzpakBarwnyPtak 1 week ago
@SzpakBarwnyPtak There is NOT much difference between Fascism & Communism. ie. Hitler , Mussolini - and- Stalin, Mao tze Tung, Pol Pot, Tito, just to name a few, But , again every person has FREE WILL so I suppose you can choose to be delusional.
TheLaw055 1 week ago
@TheLaw055 There is no diffrenece between Capitalism and Fascism. Hitler were sponsored in 1933 by western English, French and American (of jewish provinence) finansist and bankers to destroy Communism in Germany.
Communist were first prisoners in Hitler's concetration camps not Jews!
Capitalists and Nazis are the same!
SzpakBarwnyPtak 1 week ago
@SzpakBarwnyPtak My dear young Comrad, Communism lasted from 1918 - 1990 It has killed between 100 to 135 million people in the world & still killing in North Korea .It has failed as an political ideology & political system. There is not much difference between Fascism & Communism in controlling societies. Capitalism with its many faults operates & continues to exist because there are NO better alternatives.
TheLaw055 6 days ago
@SzpakBarwnyPtak It's ironical that you should mention " Concentration Camps " for your information it was a communist invention in1918 under the head of NKVD Felix Drzinsky who was a Polish Jew, loyal to Lenin & bolsheviks ( in reality bolsheviks were in MINORITY at the time ) Hitler copied the idea from the Communists.
TheLaw055 6 days ago
@TheLaw055 wrong, read about the Boer war and what the UK and her allies did to the Afrikaner women and children
irishgodfatherchris 5 days ago
@irishgodfatherchris Yes, you are correct it was the British BASTARDS who first started using concentration camps in South Africa during the Boer war 1900-1902
TheLaw055 5 days ago
Islam's MAIN goal is to spread their beliefs everywhere. If you don't agree, then the sword will convince you. Islam is a modern JOKE, it is full of hypocritical zealots who cannot see or appreciate any other point of view. It is ARCHAIC and should be banned.
arjoj10 1 week ago
@arjoj10 I agree, ISLAM does NOT have the concept of FORGIVNESS - instead they have the concept of REVENGE, VIOLENCE, KILLING, ELIMINATING THE ENEMY.etc.
TheLaw055 1 week ago
Not their fault?? Who'se fault is it then that they wear bags? We in the WEST like to SEE who we are talking to. Fuck off back to where you came from if you don't agree.
arjoj10 1 week ago
I find it difficult to post a letter in the black walking post box. Get it right we don't want it in Australia. If Mahommad was in Blacktown today he would be arrested for being a pedophile.
It is only time when there will be the same riots and bombs in Australia as in London. They have a piece of paper that says AUSTRALIAN. They will NEVER be AUSSIES
MegaFRANNYD 1 week ago
Numerical numbering first appeared in print in the work of the Muslim mathematicians’ al-Khwarizmi and al-Kindi around 825. There are many other contributions that Muslims have made but they are not given credit for it. Islam is about anything but violence. It is a religion of peace, but to the western world it has been portrayed as a religion that is only interested in violence. If Islam is a stupid religion than why are thousands of people converting to Islam every single day?
jafarishabnam56 1 week ago
@jafarishabnam56 Well, there are plenty of stupid people who are willing to buy into religion.
That's why ;)
Billions of flies eat shit, doesn't make it tasty.
WirlWind494 1 week ago
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jafarishabnam56 1 week ago
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@WirlWind494 Learn to have some respect for people's religions. You said "Billions of flies eat shit.." you are referring to Islam as shit. Y did I even waste my time trying to answer a low life moron like you. We have not moved on from our religion because we know that it is the right path. Since the beginning of Islam the religion has not changed, the holy book has not changed because we are not like you's who change their holy book and religion as they go along. Now that is sad!
jafarishabnam56 1 week ago
@jafarishabnam56 Way to totally miss the point of the analogy...
*whoosh*
And I don't have a holy book. I don't have a religion, or a god. And why should I have "respect" for what is essentially a popular fable that people believe without any tangible evidence?
The only thing that separates religious people from crazy people is the label of a church. I'm sure there are plenty of paranoid schizo's that talk to god every day.
WirlWind494 1 week ago
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jafarishabnam56 6 days ago
@WirlWind494 You are here judging other people's religion when you don't even have a religion yourself. How would you even know what religion is about when you don't even have a God. Our religion is not some fable or legend. There is proof behind it and that is our Holy Book.
jafarishabnam56 6 days ago
@jafarishabnam56 Just because I don't have a religion now, doesn't mean I've never had one. I gave it up when I realised there was no proof beyond "a book".
Happy potter has a bunch of books, doesn't make it true.
If I said "Prove to me your god exists right here and now" you wouldn't be able to do it beyond saying "the holy book" which was written by MEN.
It's a fable and a legend. Calling a book holy doesn't mean it's truth. It just means it's religion.
WirlWind494 6 days ago
. Abū al-Rayḥān Muḥammad is known as the “founder of Indology” and the “first anthropologist”. Coffee was discovered by a Muslim named Khalid. The technique of inoculation was not invented by Jenner and Pasteur but was devised in the Muslim world and brought to Europe from Turkey by the wife of the English ambassador to Istanbul in 1724. Children in Turkey were vaccinated with cowpox to fight the deadly smallpox at least 50 years before the West discovered it.
jafarishabnam56 1 week ago
I just realised, there are 1.1 billion Stupid Muslims in the world today. Because of their DUMB backward religion. They have lowered the average worlds I.Q. by 20%. In today's world there is NO room for dogmatic theocracy such as ISLAM. In the last 150 years what contribution has ISLAM made to: Science? Technology? Education? Philosophy? Law? Theology? etc. the answer is NOTHING. All they do, and do well is VIOLENCE. Yet, they are trying to convince others of the virtues of ISLAM.
TheLaw055 2 weeks ago
You say that Muslims have not made any contributions to Science, Mathematics, Education and so forth. Well, let me tell you that some of the most well-known Mathematical concepts were developed by Muslims, Abū ʿAbdallāh Muḥammad also known as the father of algebra introduced the decimal positional number system to the Western world. His work presented the first systematic solution to linear and quadratic equations in arabic.
jafarishabnam56 1 week ago
@jafarishabnam56 Like a typical average stupid Muslim, I said : In the " 150 YEARS " what contribution has ISLAM made?????? Please read the QUESTION before you decide to answer it ???? You are right about Abu Abdallah BUT he lived in the 9th century NOT last 150 years. Further the concept of "0" zero & numbering is an invention of Arab Muslims. But my point is that that WORLD has moved on so much from 5 century Mohommeds time, Yet , ISLAM & muslims have NOT , I repeat have NOT. That is sad.
TheLaw055 1 week ago
cool
muffdriver69 2 weeks ago
"Most muslim women are happy to take their burka's off for security reasons" which is why mulism women have been suing governments and agencies around the world for asking them to take off the burka's to be identified. I can't walk around with my face covered, I'd get arrested. So why are Muslim's allowed to when their isn't even any mention of wearing Burka's in the Qu'ran? Muslim's should have to follow the law the same as everyone else. No one has complete freedom in what they choose to wear.
MyJibJib 2 weeks ago
Looks like there is no such thing a freedom of self expression in Britian....you have the freedom to be british, and thats it! Imagine your wife didnt even want anyone esle to see her except her man, as opposed to worring is that kid mine? As to the feelings of hate, I would ask how it affects you physically? One teacher used to say when a child would cry, is there blood? is there a bump? no? He's Fine. Just as many planes have crashed into buildings that were driven by christians
QasimDJ87 2 weeks ago
OWNED!!!
Khan12078 2 weeks ago
@TheLaw05
I think you are talking a load of nonsense.
How does wearing the hijab or burka ram down their religion down your throat?? I take it then that all mosques and churches ought to covered in veils so they don't upset u either???
If i see a billboard poster with a scantily dressed woman on it, isn't that ramming your belief down my throat also??? It's your belief , or lack of belief, that makes you think that a half naked woman is completely acceptable on billboards.
ZaneIsSane 2 weeks ago
@ZaneIsSane Sir, you are not only illogical in your argument , but it looks like you are also a Stupid, Dogmatic Muslim. I say this because, all western societies are still culturally CHRISTIAN , yet you don't see Catholics, Baptists, Methodist etc. wearing distinctive "Christian" clothes. As far as" naked billboards" are concerned these are adds & not people walking NAKED down the street. BUT more importantly if you are a Muslim in western society, then: "When in Rome do as the Romans do".
TheLaw055 2 weeks ago
@ZaneIsSane I loathe the veil, the burka, the niqab and all outward expressions of Islam because of the utter hypocrisy it represents. Islam CLAIMS to be a beacon of modesty! But how is it at ALL modest to sashay across a non-Muslim country with the intent of showcasing what you see as your own superiority? In non-Muslim countries wearing a burka is the OPPOSITE of modesty. It's "in your face, I'm a Muslimah, deal with it!" It's offensive. Why not respect OUR culture?
Painterly51 2 weeks ago
@ZaneIsSane
What is actually wrong ab9out said half naked girl on billboard? why do you have a problem with female beauty? what about adds with half dressed guys all muscelly to appeal to girls?
Why not say no fair girls wantn to see more guys?
And note... said girl probably earning more money than guys her age for less work.
Beauty is fun, it helps gets guys and girls together and gives girls power over guys
ComboTheCat 1 week ago
I dont know about you guys but im depressed to see a country getting taken over by Muslims, yet again immirgrants in general... Frances history everything they fought for now these scum have come to take it over, ill deport them all if I had the power.....
14jstorm 2 weeks ago
the muslims are always complaining about suffering racist actions but try to go to a muslim country and it s all the same crap so stop crying and maybe stop doing the same. or as a white go to brooklin and some black people are gonna start mocking u or maybe robbing u. or yids they r killing palestines everyday.
piomania 2 weeks ago
IF it is against ISLAM
YES
if not then sorry NO!!!!!!!
fvillag1 2 weeks ago
First step: It's only girls that are willing that wear the veil
Second step:Muslim girls are all forced to wear the veil to not get bullied by the community/family
Third: In neighbourhood where there are a lot of muslims, it is now western women are bullied by young muslims unless they start wearing veils themseleves
Fourth: At the end, the Islamists have succeded through intimidation in creating sharia-ruled ghettos or state upon state.
Marcusjulianus 2 weeks ago
Ban it...Good for west and australia...
sukuvar 2 weeks ago
Do not give in to the muslim.
Ban the Burqa
burqa is a way of marking who is muslim females and who is not.
Don't have to spell it out what will those thus do to the non-muslim females
TheRubyJustin 2 weeks ago
@TheRubyJustin
Agree!
Marcusjulianus 2 weeks ago
Good for you, Australia. Public identification documents should require full face to be seen.
ancienthibernian 2 weeks ago
why do women priest in church cover the head ?
opteronx 2 weeks ago
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@opteronx "why do women priest in church cover the head ?" I don't care if they engage in gay sex while running around naked in whatever "holy site" they go to (no children under 18, animals or adults who don't want to participate of course) in their own time
The Burqa is a symbol of oppression. If it is so "great" why don't muslim men wear it?
sol3a1 2 weeks ago
@opteronx They don't. You don't know what you're talking about. SOME nuns cover their heads, but others don't. And it's not a mandate, anyway.
ancienthibernian 2 weeks ago
@ancienthibernian but I see women in the church only showed the face (women priests)
opteronx 2 weeks ago
@opteronx What are you" turking" about ???? are you stupid or really STUPID??? Women priest covering their head ???????
TheLaw055 2 weeks ago
So what do you do to the poor kids that get raped in Arab countries I won't call them women many aren't they are still children. You stone them until they are until they are just a bloody pile of meat and bone. You cut their throats. The women here have a choice how they dress and get treated you know the score I act decently and dress decently I expect to be treated decently but not because I was pressured into it.
SuperChaitea 2 weeks ago
put a fucking towel on your head and alah smiles upon you
AbcadefGhiJklman 2 weeks ago
THEN MUSLIM COUNTRIES SHOULD SAY, NO MORE BHIKINIS AND SKIRTS!
GudMuzlim786 2 weeks ago
@GudMuzlim786 Sir, if my wife, daughter, sister etc. goes to a muslim country then it's OK for them to be covered, I AGREE........ BUT ,BUT when a muslim female comes to our wester/ Christian country Please, do not impose your CULTURE on us. As the saying goes " When in Rome do as the Romans do".
TheLaw055 2 weeks ago 2
@TheLaw055 Excellent but trust ISLAM hates that.
fvillag1 2 weeks ago
@fvillag1 I do not understand ISLAM hates what ???????
TheLaw055 2 weeks ago
@TheLaw055 What I meant was ISLAM hates compromise in another country like France or US, but more importantly ISLAM hates choice and freedom to choose.
fvillag1 2 weeks ago
@fvillag1 I totally agree, ISLAM is dogmatic in it's theology & there is no room for constructive argument, or theological compromise in interpreting the Koran. Thus, the violence,and Anti - All Other Religions, Cultures, Law, Politics, Education etc.
TheLaw055 2 weeks ago
@TheLaw055 First of thanks for the reply and yes you are so right about it.
fvillag1 2 weeks ago
@TheLaw055 Brother, I strongly recommend you to watch this video - /watch?v=IGGyNm_z8Os
I also saw another video which argued against the headscarf ban stating that it's ridiculous and disgraceful as there are many different types of groups around the world that wear the headscarf for various reasons including: religious, cultural and health related. Unfortunately I cannot find this video on YouTube. Maybe you will understand after this message and think different than you did before.
GudMuzlim786 2 weeks ago
@GudMuzlim786 By wearing" distinctive clothes" you are telling /advertising/ramming your Islamic religiosity down my throat.The only people who CAN wear "distinctive clothes" are the Clergy NOT the public. By being distinctive, this leads to social aparthide, & divisivness, & breakdown of ones Cultural identity, Thus, when western women go to Islamic countries they have to comply with the rules. So , sir you have to comply with our western custom & culture. O.K.
TheLaw055 2 weeks ago
I agree but is your caps lock stuck on. You don't have to shout. Maybe the men should make a fashion statement to prove their beliefs too wouldnt be too many Muslims then. Im sure I could design something ugly and confining and uncomfortable enough for them.
SuperChaitea 2 weeks ago
WHY ITS HOLY FOR A HUSBAN TO BEAT HIS WIFE OR MAYBE CUT HER HEAD OFF ITS TRUE ISLAM WAYS OF LIFE I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE A TV SHOW SICK OF YOUR WIFE BEAT HER UP CUT HER HEAD OFF IT WOULD GET GREAT RATINGS DONT YA THINK WE COULD CALL IT MUSLIM DEVORCE OR SOMETHING G!
eye2eyeize 3 weeks ago
THE MUSLIMS ARE TRYING TO OVERTHROW ALL GOVTS ON THE EARTH MUSLIMS HATE ALL OF YOU AND ALL YOU DO IS LET THEM DO ANYTHING THEY WANT BUT NOT ANYMORE! WELL I GEUSS EUROPE IS FINALLY WAKING UP WHATS WRONG WOMEN OF EUROPE DONT YOU WANT TO BE SHOT IN THE HEAD 4 SHARIA LAW AND RAPED FROM TIME 2 TIME AND NOT PROVE IT OH AND OFCOARSE BEING BEATEN BY YOUR HUSBAND IS ALL THE RAGE COME ON YOU WILL LIKE IT ITS FUN RIGHT G!
eye2eyeize 3 weeks ago
Good for the Frenchies. We have to abide by their laws and customs over there no matter how barbaric. No ones forcing then to live here. Personally I find then creepy. A bit like cousin It on the munsters.
SuperChaitea 3 weeks ago
France banned Burqa because they are Islamaphobic dogs
the Hijab n Burqa should never ever be banned, it is customery of Islam, if u ban Burqa n Hijab, then ban other Christian, Hindu n Jewish things, dont discriminate against muslims, u kaffir sharmutas
AssyrianKingz13 3 weeks ago
@AssyrianKingz13 i would never go to a country where im CLEARLY unwanted fact is muslims do anyways becose there parasites and have a hidden egenda!!
melroser23 2 weeks ago
@AssyrianKingz13 Yes ban ANYTHING whihc encourages sexsim , repression and segregstion, however its mainly the burka that does this, a little crescent necklance or corss necklace is not a problem, a turban is only an issue with healht and sdafety ie crash helments
Ilsm encourages its fobia by the sexisim, homophobia, repression, terrorisim, flogign women for trousers, driving, attacking young unmarried couples etc.
Dogs are lovable helpful animals so not an insult
ComboTheCat 2 weeks ago
@AssyrianKingz13 Sir, I assume you live in a Western Christian country, if this is correct than, under what authority are you demanding and telling US not to ban the burqa ?????? Remember, you are a guest in a foreign ( Culturally Christian) country ?????? Second, in western countries it is ONLY the clergy who wear identifiable religious clothes, NOT the public. So, STOP ramming your 500 years backward Islam down my throat. You great unwashed.
TheLaw055 2 weeks ago
@AssyrianKingz13 If a christian walked into a public place wearing something over their face like that, they'd be arrested too.
Deal with it.
WirlWind494 1 week ago
@WirlWind494 racist
AssyrianKingz13 1 week ago
@AssyrianKingz13 Eat shit and die...
Not sure if trolling... Or just stupid?
WirlWind494 1 week ago
@WirlWind494 fagg
AssyrianKingz13 1 week ago
@AssyrianKingz13 Another intelligent reply from the troll...
*golfclap*
Keep it up!
WirlWind494 1 week ago
@WirlWind494 -_-
pig
AssyrianKingz13 1 week ago
@AssyrianKingz13 No, really. The staggering amount of brainpower you must have used to come up with such cutting insults is astonishing.
WirlWind494 6 days ago
@AssyrianKingz13 And just incase you're not a troll, then you're some spastic freak-out muslim type who view any criticism as racism...
Go look up the word. I never once mentioned race in that comment. And everyone keeps saying they're "religious" clothing so that's not racist either.
And personally, I think religious people of all kinds are stupid for believing a magic invisible man in the sky controls them and cares about them, but to each their own.
WirlWind494 1 week ago
its funny how people CAN understand when women strip naked to sell newspapers but CANT understand when Muslim women wear extra piece of clothing to guard their honor and modesty.. its like the world has turned upside down... and they all hide behind the security issue.. do me a favor!!
8casm 3 weeks ago
@8casm so true instead of judging us they should just judge themselves
SyrimfortheWin 2 weeks ago
@8casm
You see only muslsim are so dumb they cant see anythign in between burka and nakedness. I never see naked folk on public
No such thing as modesty it just means submissive, nothign good about it and what the hell has sex got to do with honour.?
Honour is not cheating folk or being a currpt politician.
Girls use sexaulity to control guys be it yoru newspaper or gettign guys to carry their books, let them off fines, get into clubs gettign guys to back down in argument etc
ComboTheCat 2 weeks ago
@ComboTheCat you are so dumb you answered your question lol
8casm 2 weeks ago