I love Bach manuscripts... Sometimes I see some very human thing on them: scribblings, edits, mistakes, cross-outs, and corrections. Bach was, after all, only a human. But man, what amazing things we mere humans are capable of.
I never saw a Bach manuscript with all the things you name there (mistakes, cross-outs, corrections...). My experience with his manuscript on the contrary only lefts me even more totally amazed and stunned with his infinite capacities. His writing is also very, very beautiful.
@edwardakane I think that 3 staves-organ scores are modern tradition since the end of 19th century. All manuscripts and old editions (printed in 18th century) I have seen displays only 2 staves with a label "pedal" (or "con pedale/senza pedale") where unclear.
I collect facsimiles of Bach manuscripts. Where did you get this? It is stunningly beautiful (as are most fair copies in His hand). The organ works are hard to come by, particularly since few survived. The only one I have is the 6 trio sonatas.
Aunque muy duro,creo que es bastante acertado,por lo menos es una opinion fundada y fundamentada la de AndrewOrgespieler.Pero en España que descalificamos mucho mas,Koopman creo que toca el organo...
It was a Baroque tradition to improvise decoration, to play quavers unevenly. The same with stop settings, none were written because they believed it was up to the performer, which all changed in the romantic era when the invention of the Symphonic Organ came in.
I believe playing quavers unevenly was only a French practice. Bach does also occasionaly write the stop settings as well although most of the time Bach played on Organo Pleno, a loud setting which fulfils the instruments versatility.
At last an organist who knows how to phrase barock music !!
Ton Koopman is not an organist.He is iconoclastic musicologist who played the harpischord and doesn't let the pipes speak as this organist does. But - the final chord in the prelude must always be played as writ @ one beat.
That isn't fair on Ton. Everyone is open to their own interpretation and there's nothing wrong if Koopman loves unleashing his fury every once in a while.
Although I admit I am personally a lover of Karl Richter performances but its still not right to say Ton is not an organist.
My ear tells me it is performed exactly as written and the final cord is performed perfectly here.
Considering that so much of Bach's Organ works have come down to us in copied (or even copied of copies) form it's always a treat to see something in Bach's own hand. Thanks for posting both the audio and the facsimile.
for the real thing : Ton koopman bwv BWV541
KV4671 1 month ago
Wonderful seeing the manuscript and hearing such clarity.
Thank you, abaco.
What is the image in the view?
robertgift 1 month ago
rockin!
ZIGSVIDS 3 months ago
0:28 <---skip the crap
TheRegulated 3 months ago
Ahhhhhhh this is so brilliant. That left-hand playing and writing is just... ahhhhhhhh. So cheeky, yet so beautiful!
Arsenate22 3 months ago
this is amazing how jsbach wrote this in ink and no corrections as if god spoke to him direct... thankyou jsbach ... and god ;-)
petechandanatural 4 months ago 2
3:43 fugue starts
NimbleTurtle13 4 months ago
Bach really blew it on this one
OceanderTethyseus 5 months ago
0:30 <skip the crap
TheRegulated 5 months ago
damn looks hard to read lol, amazing song tho :)
TheRegulated 5 months ago
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was n scheiß
cantsolvesudokus 6 months ago
was n scheiß
cantsolvesudokus 6 months ago
Brett Milan (müsste er nicht Brett Mailand ehißen?) spielt wie ein Deutscher...
...was ja nicht unbedingt schlecht sein muss.
I like this `rocking´ interpretation! It shows a well-based connection to the instrument though. Good work, Brett!
11Kralle 6 months ago
Lovely to hear this and see the music in Bach's hand at the same time. Thank you!
ivypossum 11 months ago
I love Bach manuscripts... Sometimes I see some very human thing on them: scribblings, edits, mistakes, cross-outs, and corrections. Bach was, after all, only a human. But man, what amazing things we mere humans are capable of.
b0ttomzone 1 year ago 8
@b0ttomzone
I never saw a Bach manuscript with all the things you name there (mistakes, cross-outs, corrections...). My experience with his manuscript on the contrary only lefts me even more totally amazed and stunned with his infinite capacities. His writing is also very, very beautiful.
jsnauwaert 5 months ago
Interesting to see that it's written on only 2 staves as opposed to the 3 we normally see these days.
edwardakane 1 year ago 8
@edwardakane I think that 3 staves-organ scores are modern tradition since the end of 19th century. All manuscripts and old editions (printed in 18th century) I have seen displays only 2 staves with a label "pedal" (or "con pedale/senza pedale") where unclear.
Nuk1eus 1 year ago
I collect facsimiles of Bach manuscripts. Where did you get this? It is stunningly beautiful (as are most fair copies in His hand). The organ works are hard to come by, particularly since few survived. The only one I have is the 6 trio sonatas.
bachkirche 1 year ago
@bachkirche
I found the manuscript on BachDigital
abaco62 1 year ago
wonderful
saliere3mozart 2 years ago
Great piece
the3stargate 2 years ago
Aunque muy duro,creo que es bastante acertado,por lo menos es una opinion fundada y fundamentada la de AndrewOrgespieler.Pero en España que descalificamos mucho mas,Koopman creo que toca el organo...
paradoxicus 2 years ago
The Organist should never add trills [last note] where they are not written.
Both Bach and Handel particulalry objected to this practice - and said so - because they wrote them in for the player themselves.
AndrewOrgelspieler 2 years ago
It was a Baroque tradition to improvise decoration, to play quavers unevenly. The same with stop settings, none were written because they believed it was up to the performer, which all changed in the romantic era when the invention of the Symphonic Organ came in.
BeFrSc 2 years ago 2
I believe playing quavers unevenly was only a French practice. Bach does also occasionaly write the stop settings as well although most of the time Bach played on Organo Pleno, a loud setting which fulfils the instruments versatility.
maxjamesorgans 2 years ago
@maxjamesorgans Whoops, ignore what I said about the uneven quavers, you are correct, that is a french practice.
BeFrSc 2 years ago
What a FABULOUS idea!!! It BEGS for more!! PerrrfictKats
PerrrfictKats 3 years ago
At last an organist who knows how to phrase barock music !!
Ton Koopman is not an organist.He is iconoclastic musicologist who played the harpischord and doesn't let the pipes speak as this organist does. But - the final chord in the prelude must always be played as writ @ one beat.
Motio perpuendo.
AndrewOrgelspieler 2 years ago
That isn't fair on Ton. Everyone is open to their own interpretation and there's nothing wrong if Koopman loves unleashing his fury every once in a while.
Although I admit I am personally a lover of Karl Richter performances but its still not right to say Ton is not an organist.
My ear tells me it is performed exactly as written and the final cord is performed perfectly here.
advisorC101 2 years ago 2
Considering that so much of Bach's Organ works have come down to us in copied (or even copied of copies) form it's always a treat to see something in Bach's own hand. Thanks for posting both the audio and the facsimile.
gerubach72 3 years ago
Wonderful to see the original manuscript. Thank you!
eat911t 3 years ago
thanks, more like this would be wonderful
PraeludiumUndFuge 3 years ago
Quando l'ha scritta è sicuro che doveva avere il cuore pieno di gioia. Ci sono bagliori di luce e freschezza dovunque.
Sentiamo la tua mancanza...forse non tanto i tuoi allievi. :-)
klimt5 3 years ago
Grazie!
annafrancesca1 3 years ago