German meisterschaft. I build several warplane-scalemodels of all armies when I was about 12 to 15 years old. They are somewhere at my parents ' house. I will search for them and show them to you here on You Tube.
the most amazing revolutionary single engine, single pilot monoplane that became a war plane. And people, it is the most produced fighter plane of all time, almost 34,000 were produced :)
I know it is all supposition and "what ifs" but from what Galland was saying however Hitlers heart wasn't in it. If that was true of Hitler I wonder if a general lack of enthusiasm for war with Britain AT THAT POINT in the war was a general trend right through the Nazi hierarchy.
I found out that the range of the 109E was @ 410 miles at best.. Spits were armed with cannon (Mk 2 had 2x 20mm Hispano-Suza ( I believe)) but the cannon had a tendency to jam & were replaced with mgs until the bugs were worked out. What confounded the Germans about Brit radar was that the masts were immune to blast effects and that the Brits used radar to coordinate with Fighter Command for intercepts.Dowding felt that bombers were the bigger threat to England than the fighters were. Thanx.
You're very welcome. My info comes from 2 sources: "Fighter: The True story of the Battle of Britain" by Len Deighton & "The Battle of Britain: Greatest Air Battle of WW2" by Richard Hough & Denis Richards. The 109 had a fuel tank holding 88 Imperial gallons for @ 1 hour's flying time. It could carry a 550kg bomb but not an external drop tank until the 109E7 came out near the end of the Battle. By then the issue was no longer in doubt. Over London, you had @ 10-15 min combat time otherwise.
This is one heck of a war bird. With its fuel injected Daimler Benz motor it could out dive a spit and it carried much more fire power with its twin canons firing through the prop than the early spits which just had peashooter .303 brownings. I belive it also carried much more amo and could fire for perhaps 5 times as long as a Spit. And yet Britain was not invaded. It isnt prettty but it is functional. A Spitfire is beautiful, a work of art and engineering but RADAR made the difference
@HarryAardvark I agree with you on the 109E's performance; the only thing it couldn't do against a spit or hurri was out-turn it. Both British fighters carried 2660 rounds total for @ 14 sec firing at 1200rpm. the 109 had 2x 7.9 mm mgs (@.30cal) & 2x MG FF 20mm Orelikon cannon(like the A6M2 Zero;Type 99-1 for them) & carried 60 rpg. It fired 520rpg with a muzzle velocity of 1800fps to the .303s 2600fps. It was the 109s endurance lack that gave the Battle of Britain to the RAF.
@TheSV3 Thankyou for your excellent summary of the ordnance cababilities of the bf109 vs. a Huri or Spit. It is a treat to read accurate and well prepared thoughts like yours. I did not know that the bf109 had an issue with endurance and this does now make much sense. I struggled to understand how they were held at bay and assumed that radar made the difference. Thanks once more for your thoughful comments. All in all I would want to be in a spit, but a later mk with 20mm canon
@HarryAardvark Another source on the Battle of Britain you might be interested in- and I just finished reading- is "Invasion, 1940" by Derek Robinson. He asks "If Hitler had gone ahead with Operation Sealion, could England repel it?" He says too much credit is given to the RAF as the deceiding factor to cause the invasion's cancellation and not enough to the Royal Navy, who would have gone all-out to repel it. He even gives a scenario on what the battle would possibly be like. More later.
@TheSV3 Many thanks once more for informative comments. I did not know that spits as early as Mk II had canons, I thought that these came much later. I can see how 10-15 min of opps time was a limiting factor on the 109E. I will read about the naval capabilities. Just as well Sealion never became a reality, we would all be drving VW's BMW's and Mercedes now....oh.err, wait. Only joking.
@HarryAardvark My pleasure. The 109e had, at 88 Imp gals, a total flying time of @ 90min at best economical speed for a range of @ 125mi. You could get to London and back IF the weather was good, your navigaton was perfect, and the AA gunners or the RAF had no objections to your visit. You'll also find that the Navy and the RAF were also assisted by Mothers Nature and Earth, as well as the infighting between Hitler and his cronies as to the cancellation of Sealion as well. Take care & thanx.
@TheSV3 But without air cover the Royal Navy would have been decimated by the Luftwaffe in a matter of days - within the narrow English Channel it would have been futile.
By simply surviving as an effective defence force the RAF won the "Battle of Britain" which prevented the Luftwaffe from securing air cover for operation Sealion. Of course the Royal Navy would have been the primary force to actually stop a seabourne invasion but it could only have done it with the air cover that the RAF.
@tomburley Agreed, had the invasion taken place by day, which is why Raeder insisted on air superiority over his invasion front which stretched from Brighton to Dover. He had to cover 1000+ barges with only 8 DD and his E-boats against @ 70-80 RN DDs and capital ships, plus deal with Bomber Command as well, both going all-out to repel the invasion at any cost, protected by what a/c Fighter Command had in support. And most likely at night. (Derek Robinson; INVASION, 1940) Continued later.
@TheSV3 Whilst the RN had a numerical advantage in ships you must remember that they were spread out covering convoys all round the UK coast, Iceland, Atlantic etc. RN Capital ships based up at Scapa would have been little help - taking time to get to Dover and constantly attacked by Uboats and Luftwaffe.
Since physical UK ground forces were minimal at the time it would have been almost impossible to stop Germans from gaining foothold in southern England without the RAF remaining a viable force
@tomburley From Scapa Flow, U-boats would be a threat, granted, but the Luftwaffe threat would be in question if the ships hugged the coast within range of 13 & 12 Groups as the 109 didn't have the range to escort bombers that far; it would take 110s w/ aux fuel tanks to do that as Luftflotte 5 found out the hard way. Sheerness & Harwich based 2 CA and 20 DD; Plymouth & Portsmouth the same w/ gunbosts and aux ships, using gunfire, ramming & their bow waves/ stern wakes to swamp the barges. Cont.
@tomburley From Scapa Flow, U-boats would be a threat, granted, but the Luftwaffe threat would be in question if the ships hugged the coast within range of 13 & 12 Groups as the 109 didn't have the range to escort bombers that far; it would take 110s w/ aux fuel tanks to do that as Luftflotte 5 found out the hard way. Sheerness & Harwich based 2 CA and 20 DD; Plymouth & Portsmouth the same w/ gunbosts and aux ships, using gunfire, ramming & their bow waves/ stern wakes to swamp the barges.
@TheSV3 All very true - but you are still working on the premise that the RAF had remained a viable force. Had the Luftwaffe succeeded in defeating the RAF (thankfully they didn't) 12 & 13 Group would not have been there to cover the RN capital ship movement from Scapa Flo which would have left them vunerable to Ju88's and maybe even Ju87 as well as Me110. All this is theoretical of course.
@tomburley Good enough. It is indeed theoretical, and fortunately Fighter Command was able to hold out long enough to let weather, tides, Goering's inability to crush Fighter Command, & Hitler's desire to crush Stalin take over. If you are able to obtain a copy of INVASION 1940- which is where I drew most of my data- I'd be very interested in your conclusion(s), esp the last 3 chapters which deal with the Sealoin order of battle, RN/RAF response, and the aftermath. Thanx.
My God, is that a beautiful machine. It's kind of crude and sharp around the edges, but I think it's kind of fitting it's German origins and character. Like it was saying "I'm not made to look pretty, I'm made to do the job right." And it's beauty is exactly that IMO :D
@poopingbotham: Please don't get me wrong.I am not a Nazi sympathizer. But history tends to be lenient towards those fallen defending their causes. Marseille had extraordinary pilot skills, that cannot be denied. And if I take my hat off, I also do it when I mention Douglas Bader, Pappy Boyinton and Nichizawa. For us aviation and history buffs, those extraordinary pilots are way over ideologies. They were real aces, of a special breed. And I think they are owed respect.
@billace90 I agree with you. we had some very good pilots here, in ´82 war against england. I think that was a stupid war but our pilots seved our country bravely with obsolete plains and no technology. majority were no equipped with radar, just equiped with only one bomb (british bombs from ww2) (returned to the owners with love) and they sank HMS Sheffield, HMS Coventry, HMS Broadsword and many other ships. They left HMS Invencible out of combat... all with a few A4, Mirage, and Super-etendar
Please,don´t get me wrong,but you forgot the two even greater Flugzeugführer of Luftwaffe,Mr.Erich Hartmann and Gerhard Barkhorn.They both surpassed the 300 mark,and mostly,in the case of Hartmann singularly on Bf 109.Don´t even want to mention Hans Ulrich Rudel,though not a fighterpilot,one just has to check his flying record and stand guard at his achievements!!!
@billace90 I I must advise that Douglas Bader does not deserve any accolade... he was a bad tempered, very obnoxious leader... he claimed that when he was shot down in 1941... was by a German ace... and he managed to ram an Me 110 in the process... after the war Adolf Galland... said to an R.A.F airman.."Bader was not shot down by a German ace... he was shot down by a flight sergeant. and no German planes were rammed on that day. (I am English... but not proud of that twat)...
There's three different planes here, I'm guessing; Black 12, White 4 - & White 14. It's a shame that the pilot had to spoil the latter part of this clip by flying this vintage plane (White 14) in a super modern, up to date hard helmet. Probably afraid that he may have a crashy washy.
Staffel markings were commonly identified by the aircraft numbers on the side, painted with the Staffel color. The spinner was sometimes painted with Staffel color as well. Broad areas of bright paint or on wingtips and rudder tips were more of a tactical aid for high visibility.
@evilmoif Its all just for looks man, all just for looks. Do you rly think that camoflage would make any plane blend into the sky NO. Not back then atleast... Camo was put on planes just to make them look meaner and fancier.
The bright yellow was introduced as an identification color for ground gunners during strafing attacks early in the war. RLM standard camouflage colors were well-researched with blues, blue-greens and grays blending very well into the sky and haze, but Luftwaffe units created interesting patterns for field conditions.
I sometimes wonder how many more kills would Hans Joachim Marseille would have achieved had it not been for his tragic accident and death. Perhaps surpass Hartmann? We will never know.
They called him The Star of Africa, with 158 kills at only 23 years old. He flew an ME-109 called yellow 14.
mind if i ask you a very curious question? how does the 20 - 30 mm cannon on the plane fire through the prop hub? does it fire through the engine or what?
@lindahl01 In Germany, that's considered right side up.
The breach of the cannon was literally between the pilot's legs. Of course it had a cover on it. Gives meaning to the term..."Feel the power between your legs"'
@EnterpriseXI Right. The engine is a V, as in V-8. The drive shaft, that turns the propeller is not in the center of the V, but at the point of it. Offset from the propeller axle by a foot or so. The drive shaft turns a chain, like a bike chain, and the chain turns the propeller axle which is hollow. The propeller and chain are on the outside, the cannon pokes throuh the inside.
Like what was already said, the cannon fires through the V in the engine and the crank is closer to the top of the V in the engine. With the propeller driven from a reduction gear on the crank, the prop is more closer to the center-line of the aircraft and the cannon fires through a hole in the propeller hub. Having the prop along the aircraft center-line creates the "thrust line" that is very important to the handling of the aircraft in relation to the plane's center-of-gravity.
@darkmossie633 No, it's what cyberOwwOecho said. However, saying someone shot down 7 Spitfires in 10 minutes doesn't mean that 7 Spitfires have to be shot down EVERY 10 minutes. Planes can't constantly stay up in the air, after all.
There are two. Me109 E7 White 14 files with the Russell Aviation Group in Niagara Falls. The Flying Heritage Collection occasionally flies an Me109 E3 at their museum in Everette, WA. FHC fly their aircraft on scheduled days each year. I believe there are at least 3 other airworthy Emil projects in the works.
That particular Bf109 crash-landed in September 1940. It was displayed as-is as a war trophy and later became derelict and neglected. It has been restored as a crashed example.
@FiveCentsPlease marseille plane in BofB - he crashed it on French beach. Germans rebuilt it and flew it over Russia. Shot down again in Russia. Rebuilt in New Zealand by David Price and flown at Santa Monica, CA then sold to Russel Group in Canada. Plane frequents the Thunder Over Michigan Show .
@AtomWofW Wrong on both counts. G model was heavy and did NOT turn as well as the E or F models. AND Spit Mk1 kicked butt on the 109E. Germans had better tactics but the Spit was faster, climbed better and turned better. 109E did have an amazing direct injection engine that allowed it to do neg g push over that helped evade the Brits.
Anyone know where this BF109E's home base is??......I thought there was one in California that was almost ready to fly??....Would be cool to see this bird fly with the Spitfire at Chino!!........Cheers.
White 14 (the airworthy one) is now based in Niagara Falls with the Russell Aviation Group. They've canceled their show for this year, but it flies to a few local events in the US--not long distance cross-country stuff. The only other airworthy E model is with the Flying Heritage Collection. If you live on the West coast, then you can go see it. They publish the flying schedules in advance.
Those DB-601s sure sound good at high rev. On the ground they almost have the roar and drumroll of a locomotive diesel at full throttle. I can't make out whether that distinct whistle is coming off the propeller tips or that turbo on the side of the engine.
No, the plane at the end belongs to the Russell Aviation Group in Canada and it's authentic with a Benz motor. Another Me109E flies with the Flying Heritage Collection in the US. (But the sound is dubbed from recordings made of Black 6. I have that CD.)
you understand that its a E version on BF109? (its all the same plane in the video) indeed some bf109 copies has the merlin engine, but those were copies of bf109 G series, not E series.
and Blacks 6 might sound different, thats true. but its a fact that these two airplanes use different engines. the E series use DB601 and G series use DB605 engines. tho they are basically the same, the DB605 is bigger, and if im right uses the supercharger of a DB603 engine.
theres one of these in winnipeg
scatpack 2 weeks ago
nice vid, such a beautiful plane, wish I could see one in real life one day.
TtimWh 3 weeks ago
That Benz engine has a whistle like no other. Sweet !
TheMuffdivr 3 weeks ago
0:25 Holy crap! That's the best engine I've EVER HEARD!
TwoTwoZulu 1 month ago
@TwoTwoZulu
The sounds are from a digital recording that's still available on CD. Search for Checkflight Gustav.
FiveCentsPlease 1 month ago
The 22 dislikes were those of the RAF.
TwoTwoZulu 1 month ago
the best ww2 plane better then the p-51
gameplay1011 1 month ago
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crazeball89 1 month ago
I would like to have this model in my flight sim. Very nice.
Pilottyengi 1 month ago
Thank´s for sharing this video. Beautiful.
CitroTeam 1 month ago
BF 109 e spitfire sono i mie aerei preferiti della seconda guerra mondiale.
mascalzonelatrin 1 month ago
A lot of people are wearing hats in this thread.
SethMcFartlane 2 months ago
@SethMcFartlane Ain't that the truth. Experts everywhere around here. I can at least say that I scratch built and fly a 34" ME109E.
WTFLYR 1 month ago
Germans did make great birds.
Metalicalypse 2 months ago
If I'm not mistaken this is the first plane ever to use a supercharger.
sammy2trees 2 months ago
@sammy2trees You are mistaken. The liberty engine used in bi-planes was supercharged way back in 1918 or so. I'm not even sure that was the first
MrGopherhead 1 month ago
Very nice views of this great machine!
wreckdiver001 2 months ago
German meisterschaft. I build several warplane-scalemodels of all armies when I was about 12 to 15 years old. They are somewhere at my parents ' house. I will search for them and show them to you here on You Tube.
turquoisecapricorn 2 months ago
I might found the best video on youtube....
razgriz001 2 months ago
oh my God, german worldwar2 warbirds (O_O)
amusika18 2 months ago
@MrHeydrich1: I totally agree with you.
Further, Rudel was on a league of its own even when he can't be considered a fighter. His numbers are way above any other pilot.
Regards.
billace90 2 months ago
A pure killing machine, superb. But remember the Spitfire was superior in some respects.
MITCHWILD 2 months ago
Fantastic piece of machinery!
Where is this plane??? Can you find it in a museum???
Thanks for sharing
Phoenicion 2 months ago
My Onkel did most of his European trips in one of these.
KlingKlangworkshop 2 months ago
'mazing gfx
Austyg 3 months ago
WOW!!! this one has the Benz engine, cool, not many of those left. Nice!!
Raging64 3 months ago
the most amazing revolutionary single engine, single pilot monoplane that became a war plane. And people, it is the most produced fighter plane of all time, almost 34,000 were produced :)
97iliketrains 3 months ago
Ah, one of the Abbeville boys !
1339LARS 4 months ago in playlist Aircraft of the Luftwaffe
Not a fan of Nazis, but you gotta love the German gear from WW2
eclipser2004 4 months ago 3
I know it is all supposition and "what ifs" but from what Galland was saying however Hitlers heart wasn't in it. If that was true of Hitler I wonder if a general lack of enthusiasm for war with Britain AT THAT POINT in the war was a general trend right through the Nazi hierarchy.
FrancoHitlini 4 months ago
if i found a statue of this plane to put on my desk
i would shit myself
TheBlitz1 5 months ago
What's happening with "White 4 + -"? At 1:50 we see it on its belly, and at 1:33 we see it on its wheels? Is it being restored to airworthyness?
Poopingbotham 5 months ago
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Messerschmitt BEST ww2 fighters over 5000 hits!
samsite84 5 months ago
i have some unused space at my house if you need to park that Bf109,
i will only fly it on sundays, please!
busdriver824 8 months ago
I found out that the range of the 109E was @ 410 miles at best.. Spits were armed with cannon (Mk 2 had 2x 20mm Hispano-Suza ( I believe)) but the cannon had a tendency to jam & were replaced with mgs until the bugs were worked out. What confounded the Germans about Brit radar was that the masts were immune to blast effects and that the Brits used radar to coordinate with Fighter Command for intercepts.Dowding felt that bombers were the bigger threat to England than the fighters were. Thanx.
TheSV3 8 months ago
You're very welcome. My info comes from 2 sources: "Fighter: The True story of the Battle of Britain" by Len Deighton & "The Battle of Britain: Greatest Air Battle of WW2" by Richard Hough & Denis Richards. The 109 had a fuel tank holding 88 Imperial gallons for @ 1 hour's flying time. It could carry a 550kg bomb but not an external drop tank until the 109E7 came out near the end of the Battle. By then the issue was no longer in doubt. Over London, you had @ 10-15 min combat time otherwise.
TheSV3 8 months ago
This is one heck of a war bird. With its fuel injected Daimler Benz motor it could out dive a spit and it carried much more fire power with its twin canons firing through the prop than the early spits which just had peashooter .303 brownings. I belive it also carried much more amo and could fire for perhaps 5 times as long as a Spit. And yet Britain was not invaded. It isnt prettty but it is functional. A Spitfire is beautiful, a work of art and engineering but RADAR made the difference
HarryAardvark 8 months ago
@HarryAardvark I agree with you on the 109E's performance; the only thing it couldn't do against a spit or hurri was out-turn it. Both British fighters carried 2660 rounds total for @ 14 sec firing at 1200rpm. the 109 had 2x 7.9 mm mgs (@.30cal) & 2x MG FF 20mm Orelikon cannon(like the A6M2 Zero;Type 99-1 for them) & carried 60 rpg. It fired 520rpg with a muzzle velocity of 1800fps to the .303s 2600fps. It was the 109s endurance lack that gave the Battle of Britain to the RAF.
TheSV3 8 months ago
@TheSV3 Thankyou for your excellent summary of the ordnance cababilities of the bf109 vs. a Huri or Spit. It is a treat to read accurate and well prepared thoughts like yours. I did not know that the bf109 had an issue with endurance and this does now make much sense. I struggled to understand how they were held at bay and assumed that radar made the difference. Thanks once more for your thoughful comments. All in all I would want to be in a spit, but a later mk with 20mm canon
HarryAardvark 8 months ago
@HarryAardvark Another source on the Battle of Britain you might be interested in- and I just finished reading- is "Invasion, 1940" by Derek Robinson. He asks "If Hitler had gone ahead with Operation Sealion, could England repel it?" He says too much credit is given to the RAF as the deceiding factor to cause the invasion's cancellation and not enough to the Royal Navy, who would have gone all-out to repel it. He even gives a scenario on what the battle would possibly be like. More later.
TheSV3 7 months ago
@TheSV3 Many thanks once more for informative comments. I did not know that spits as early as Mk II had canons, I thought that these came much later. I can see how 10-15 min of opps time was a limiting factor on the 109E. I will read about the naval capabilities. Just as well Sealion never became a reality, we would all be drving VW's BMW's and Mercedes now....oh.err, wait. Only joking.
HarryAardvark 7 months ago
@HarryAardvark My pleasure. The 109e had, at 88 Imp gals, a total flying time of @ 90min at best economical speed for a range of @ 125mi. You could get to London and back IF the weather was good, your navigaton was perfect, and the AA gunners or the RAF had no objections to your visit. You'll also find that the Navy and the RAF were also assisted by Mothers Nature and Earth, as well as the infighting between Hitler and his cronies as to the cancellation of Sealion as well. Take care & thanx.
TheSV3 7 months ago
@TheSV3 But without air cover the Royal Navy would have been decimated by the Luftwaffe in a matter of days - within the narrow English Channel it would have been futile.
By simply surviving as an effective defence force the RAF won the "Battle of Britain" which prevented the Luftwaffe from securing air cover for operation Sealion. Of course the Royal Navy would have been the primary force to actually stop a seabourne invasion but it could only have done it with the air cover that the RAF.
tomburley 4 months ago
@tomburley Agreed, had the invasion taken place by day, which is why Raeder insisted on air superiority over his invasion front which stretched from Brighton to Dover. He had to cover 1000+ barges with only 8 DD and his E-boats against @ 70-80 RN DDs and capital ships, plus deal with Bomber Command as well, both going all-out to repel the invasion at any cost, protected by what a/c Fighter Command had in support. And most likely at night. (Derek Robinson; INVASION, 1940) Continued later.
TheSV3 4 months ago
@TheSV3 Whilst the RN had a numerical advantage in ships you must remember that they were spread out covering convoys all round the UK coast, Iceland, Atlantic etc. RN Capital ships based up at Scapa would have been little help - taking time to get to Dover and constantly attacked by Uboats and Luftwaffe.
Since physical UK ground forces were minimal at the time it would have been almost impossible to stop Germans from gaining foothold in southern England without the RAF remaining a viable force
tomburley 4 months ago
@tomburley From Scapa Flow, U-boats would be a threat, granted, but the Luftwaffe threat would be in question if the ships hugged the coast within range of 13 & 12 Groups as the 109 didn't have the range to escort bombers that far; it would take 110s w/ aux fuel tanks to do that as Luftflotte 5 found out the hard way. Sheerness & Harwich based 2 CA and 20 DD; Plymouth & Portsmouth the same w/ gunbosts and aux ships, using gunfire, ramming & their bow waves/ stern wakes to swamp the barges. Cont.
TheSV3 4 months ago
@tomburley From Scapa Flow, U-boats would be a threat, granted, but the Luftwaffe threat would be in question if the ships hugged the coast within range of 13 & 12 Groups as the 109 didn't have the range to escort bombers that far; it would take 110s w/ aux fuel tanks to do that as Luftflotte 5 found out the hard way. Sheerness & Harwich based 2 CA and 20 DD; Plymouth & Portsmouth the same w/ gunbosts and aux ships, using gunfire, ramming & their bow waves/ stern wakes to swamp the barges.
TheSV3 4 months ago
@TheSV3 All very true - but you are still working on the premise that the RAF had remained a viable force. Had the Luftwaffe succeeded in defeating the RAF (thankfully they didn't) 12 & 13 Group would not have been there to cover the RN capital ship movement from Scapa Flo which would have left them vunerable to Ju88's and maybe even Ju87 as well as Me110. All this is theoretical of course.
tomburley 4 months ago
@tomburley Good enough. It is indeed theoretical, and fortunately Fighter Command was able to hold out long enough to let weather, tides, Goering's inability to crush Fighter Command, & Hitler's desire to crush Stalin take over. If you are able to obtain a copy of INVASION 1940- which is where I drew most of my data- I'd be very interested in your conclusion(s), esp the last 3 chapters which deal with the Sealoin order of battle, RN/RAF response, and the aftermath. Thanx.
TheSV3 4 months ago
My God, is that a beautiful machine. It's kind of crude and sharp around the edges, but I think it's kind of fitting it's German origins and character. Like it was saying "I'm not made to look pretty, I'm made to do the job right." And it's beauty is exactly that IMO :D
Also, billace90: QFT.
Greetings from Poland :]
Xoruam 8 months ago
beatyful example of german engeneerring
calamardo2809 8 months ago
kill baby kill!
DERZWERGE11 10 months ago
@poopingbotham: Please don't get me wrong.I am not a Nazi sympathizer. But history tends to be lenient towards those fallen defending their causes. Marseille had extraordinary pilot skills, that cannot be denied. And if I take my hat off, I also do it when I mention Douglas Bader, Pappy Boyinton and Nichizawa. For us aviation and history buffs, those extraordinary pilots are way over ideologies. They were real aces, of a special breed. And I think they are owed respect.
billace90 10 months ago 70
@billace90 I take my hat off to that comment.
TheAloha1991 9 months ago 15
@TheAloha1991 I dont even have a hat on
haraldinho13 2 months ago
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TheAloha1991 9 months ago
@billace90 I agree with you. we had some very good pilots here, in ´82 war against england. I think that was a stupid war but our pilots seved our country bravely with obsolete plains and no technology. majority were no equipped with radar, just equiped with only one bomb (british bombs from ww2) (returned to the owners with love) and they sank HMS Sheffield, HMS Coventry, HMS Broadsword and many other ships. They left HMS Invencible out of combat... all with a few A4, Mirage, and Super-etendar
ipascucci 7 months ago
@billace90 My dad knew Bader a bit (through business) and said he was nearly as right wing as those he flew against.
Czechmate1967 5 months ago
@billace90 I take my hat AND CRAVAT off to all of them. Carry on old chap!
38dragoon38 4 months ago
@billace90
Please,don´t get me wrong,but you forgot the two even greater Flugzeugführer of Luftwaffe,Mr.Erich Hartmann and Gerhard Barkhorn.They both surpassed the 300 mark,and mostly,in the case of Hartmann singularly on Bf 109.Don´t even want to mention Hans Ulrich Rudel,though not a fighterpilot,one just has to check his flying record and stand guard at his achievements!!!
MrHeydrich1 3 months ago
@billace90 I I must advise that Douglas Bader does not deserve any accolade... he was a bad tempered, very obnoxious leader... he claimed that when he was shot down in 1941... was by a German ace... and he managed to ram an Me 110 in the process... after the war Adolf Galland... said to an R.A.F airman.."Bader was not shot down by a German ace... he was shot down by a flight sergeant. and no German planes were rammed on that day. (I am English... but not proud of that twat)...
MrOrmesby 4 days ago in playlist Aircraft of the Luftwaffe
There's three different planes here, I'm guessing; Black 12, White 4 - & White 14. It's a shame that the pilot had to spoil the latter part of this clip by flying this vintage plane (White 14) in a super modern, up to date hard helmet. Probably afraid that he may have a crashy washy.
Poopingbotham 11 months ago
@Poopingbotham I don't know how many calendars are ruined because of theat!
roadstarman58 10 months ago
Colors/markings were used to identify squadrons.
Period.
mrceebees14 11 months ago
@mrceebees14
Staffel markings were commonly identified by the aircraft numbers on the side, painted with the Staffel color. The spinner was sometimes painted with Staffel color as well. Broad areas of bright paint or on wingtips and rudder tips were more of a tactical aid for high visibility.
FiveCentsPlease 11 months ago
So whats the point of adding camoflage to the fuselage, if you have a bright yellow nose?
evilmoif 11 months ago
@evilmoif Its all just for looks man, all just for looks. Do you rly think that camoflage would make any plane blend into the sky NO. Not back then atleast... Camo was put on planes just to make them look meaner and fancier.
TheExploit91 11 months ago
@evilmoif
The bright yellow was introduced as an identification color for ground gunners during strafing attacks early in the war. RLM standard camouflage colors were well-researched with blues, blue-greens and grays blending very well into the sky and haze, but Luftwaffe units created interesting patterns for field conditions.
FiveCentsPlease 11 months ago
I sometimes wonder how many more kills would Hans Joachim Marseille would have achieved had it not been for his tragic accident and death. Perhaps surpass Hartmann? We will never know.
They called him The Star of Africa, with 158 kills at only 23 years old. He flew an ME-109 called yellow 14.
billace90 11 months ago
@billace90 Yeah, I wonder how many allied lives were saved, thanks to the "tragic" death of Hans Joachim Marseille
Poopingbotham 11 months ago
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Poopingbotham 11 months ago
MESSERSCHMITT!!
I love saying that : )
FantasticBob7000 1 year ago
I always wonder why they did not make all of them with 3 cannons (like Galland had)
ww2footage 1 year ago
A true masterpiece. I fell in love with it since I first saw it at the national aircraft museum in Holland. I especially love the yellow nose.
9MinamiKe6 1 year ago
wo stehen denn solche schätze ? kann man so etwas irgendwo besichtigen ?
sebastiangermany 1 year ago
Musiiiiiic
cyberOwwwOecho 1 year ago
mind if i ask you a very curious question? how does the 20 - 30 mm cannon on the plane fire through the prop hub? does it fire through the engine or what?
EnterpriseXI 1 year ago
@EnterpriseXI Sort of. they took a V12 engine and mounted it upside down and then they could stick the gun barrel between the cylinder rows.
lindahl01 1 year ago
@lindahl01 In Germany, that's considered right side up.
The breach of the cannon was literally between the pilot's legs. Of course it had a cover on it. Gives meaning to the term..."Feel the power between your legs"'
dutchboy25al 1 year ago
@lindahl01 i still cant rap my head around it.
EnterpriseXI 1 year ago
@EnterpriseXI Right. The engine is a V, as in V-8. The drive shaft, that turns the propeller is not in the center of the V, but at the point of it. Offset from the propeller axle by a foot or so. The drive shaft turns a chain, like a bike chain, and the chain turns the propeller axle which is hollow. The propeller and chain are on the outside, the cannon pokes throuh the inside.
lindahl01 1 year ago
@lindahl01 a little like the Bell P-36 only the engine is behind the pilot right?
EnterpriseXI 1 year ago
@EnterpriseXI Yes.
lindahl01 1 year ago
@lindahl01
The drive shaft does not turn a chain for the propeller. It's a very big (and strong) set of gears for the prop reduction gear.
FiveCentsPlease 1 year ago
@FiveCentsPlease
Yeah, I know. I went with the bicycle simile and accepted a small wrong to present the greater truth. Philosophically I was right! Right I say!
lindahl01 1 year ago
@EnterpriseXI
Like what was already said, the cannon fires through the V in the engine and the crank is closer to the top of the V in the engine. With the propeller driven from a reduction gear on the crank, the prop is more closer to the center-line of the aircraft and the cannon fires through a hole in the propeller hub. Having the prop along the aircraft center-line creates the "thrust line" that is very important to the handling of the aircraft in relation to the plane's center-of-gravity.
FiveCentsPlease 1 year ago
Love the Emil startup noise!
th3sp0rk 1 year ago
Two words: ACHTUNG! SPITFIRE!
SSGDragonSoldier 1 year ago
@SSGDragonSoldier
No problem for experienced Me-109 pilots.
E.g. H.J. Marseille shot down with his Me-Bf-109 September 26th 1942 six Spitfires and one curtis between minutes. Look minute 4:40
Look watch?v=8-W7DntLtPo&NR=1
Regards...
cyberOwwwOecho 1 year ago
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What a wonderfull machine. I love that more than my Girl. Heil Germania. We come back!!
BorussiaFohle77 1 year ago
What a wonderfull machine. I love that more than my Girl. Heil Germania. We come back!
BorussiaFohle77 1 year ago
@BorussiaFohle77
And the Spitfire awaits you!!
TheHonestMann 1 year ago
@TheHonestMann
Hans Jochen Marseille awaits Spitfires with the Me-Bf109 !!!
There were days he eliminated 6-7 of them between 5-10 Minutes !!!
cyberOwwwOecho 1 year ago
@cyberOwwwOecho
ok, 7 spitfires shot down in 10 minutes
therefore in 60 minutes 49 spitfires shot down,
therefore in 120 minutes 98 spitfires shot down
almost equaling in the time of one mission, Galland's entire total of kills in all WW2
darkmossie633 1 year ago
@darkmossie633 He didn't have to shoot down 7 Spitfires every 10 minutes...
MaoiMeowi2 1 year ago
@MaoiMeowi2 sorry, but that's what you said, so = 1 spitfire shot down every 90 seconds approximately
-which confirms why Germany won Battle of Britain and the air war over Europe
darkmossie633 1 year ago
@darkmossie633 No, it's what cyberOwwOecho said. However, saying someone shot down 7 Spitfires in 10 minutes doesn't mean that 7 Spitfires have to be shot down EVERY 10 minutes. Planes can't constantly stay up in the air, after all.
MaoiMeowi2 1 year ago
@MaoiMeowi2 I suggest cyberOwwwOecho stick to Sturmvic games
darkmossie633 1 year ago
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@darkmossie633 germany did not win the battle of britain
eoin730 1 year ago
Is this the only Emil presently airworthy?
billace90 1 year ago
@billace90
There are two. Me109 E7 White 14 files with the Russell Aviation Group in Niagara Falls. The Flying Heritage Collection occasionally flies an Me109 E3 at their museum in Everette, WA. FHC fly their aircraft on scheduled days each year. I believe there are at least 3 other airworthy Emil projects in the works.
FiveCentsPlease 1 year ago
Sweet machine.
ObltKG4 1 year ago
Always thought this plane looked like a dragon fly.
mrceebees14 1 year ago
Beautiful beautiful beautiful!!!!
powerheli777 1 year ago
wow she is beautiful
tiedupsmurf 1 year ago
nice modell
SuperNick134 1 year ago
1:49. Were those props bent to allow the plane to sit on it's belly, or were they bent when the plane LANDED on it's belly?
DinosaurM1911 1 year ago
@DinosaurM1911
That particular Bf109 crash-landed in September 1940. It was displayed as-is as a war trophy and later became derelict and neglected. It has been restored as a crashed example.
FiveCentsPlease 1 year ago
@FiveCentsPlease marseille plane in BofB - he crashed it on French beach. Germans rebuilt it and flew it over Russia. Shot down again in Russia. Rebuilt in New Zealand by David Price and flown at Santa Monica, CA then sold to Russel Group in Canada. Plane frequents the Thunder Over Michigan Show .
RAF71chingachgook 1 year ago
@DinosaurM1911 Those props were bent when the plane LANDED on its belly.
DauntlessDriver 1 year ago
g is better
BlackOpsJohn 1 year ago
@BlackOpsJohn The G came out well after the first production 109E came out, you are comparing 1935ish to 1942.
mrceebees14 1 year ago
G or E which is better
Rico8458 2 years ago
g was produced about 1942/43, it has more power and can turn harder, so G is better. But the Emil was better than any other airplane in her time.
AtomWofW 1 year ago
@AtomWofW Wrong on both counts. G model was heavy and did NOT turn as well as the E or F models. AND Spit Mk1 kicked butt on the 109E. Germans had better tactics but the Spit was faster, climbed better and turned better. 109E did have an amazing direct injection engine that allowed it to do neg g push over that helped evade the Brits.
RAF71chingachgook 1 year ago
God Job !!
very good job !!
Jokerboy831 2 years ago
Anyone know where this BF109E's home base is??......I thought there was one in California that was almost ready to fly??....Would be cool to see this bird fly with the Spitfire at Chino!!........Cheers.
FWDORA9 2 years ago
White 14 (the airworthy one) is now based in Niagara Falls with the Russell Aviation Group. They've canceled their show for this year, but it flies to a few local events in the US--not long distance cross-country stuff. The only other airworthy E model is with the Flying Heritage Collection. If you live on the West coast, then you can go see it. They publish the flying schedules in advance.
FiveCentsPlease 1 year ago
what No bullet holes....sad :D
6mrviagra9 2 years ago
Only the last 60 seconds of the video are worth watching!
ljackso 2 years ago
Thanks, saved me 3 min
:)
mfG diiebane
diiebane 2 years ago
@diiebane
LOL
Einheit396 2 years ago
Emile???? Is that you???
paullubliner 2 years ago
Wenigstens noch ein Hakenkreuz drauf :)
kameradNS 2 years ago 5
Those DB-601s sure sound good at high rev. On the ground they almost have the roar and drumroll of a locomotive diesel at full throttle. I can't make out whether that distinct whistle is coming off the propeller tips or that turbo on the side of the engine.
Lex5576 2 years ago
have allways love the look of the BF109E and especially with the yellow nose it remind me of a wasp.
pingsdk 2 years ago
Is this Champlins 109 ? if so I got to see it run, one time, as german WWII pilots looked on, a very memerable moment indeed
MaryMagpie 2 years ago
That plane at the end is most likely sporting a merlin.. the sound that is dubbed in sounds like Black 6..which has an original Benz motor.
skot66 2 years ago
No, the plane at the end belongs to the Russell Aviation Group in Canada and it's authentic with a Benz motor. Another Me109E flies with the Flying Heritage Collection in the US. (But the sound is dubbed from recordings made of Black 6. I have that CD.)
FiveCentsPlease 2 years ago
yeah youre right my bad
skot66 2 years ago
you understand that its a E version on BF109? (its all the same plane in the video) indeed some bf109 copies has the merlin engine, but those were copies of bf109 G series, not E series.
and Blacks 6 might sound different, thats true. but its a fact that these two airplanes use different engines. the E series use DB601 and G series use DB605 engines. tho they are basically the same, the DB605 is bigger, and if im right uses the supercharger of a DB603 engine.
inar64 2 years ago
@inar64 Yes I am aware that this is a BF109E.
skot66 2 years ago
Great aerial footage at the end!
glazeguy 2 years ago
Sehr schönes Flugzeug!!!
powerheli777 2 years ago 2
Another mean & great looking plane.
Interesting to hear the engine, similar but different to a Merlin.
Amazing restoration job.
hocuspokus1 2 years ago
The sound of the Merlin????
lost88argo 2 years ago
She´s so beautiful, awesome
carlzoeller 2 years ago 2
it is a lovely fihter
mirzayousef 2 years ago