A Quick Review of KDE 4.2.2

[shevegen]

KDE 3 was fine. They should have extended it.

Anyway, I am back to Fluxbox and XFCE.

KDE4 and GNOME3 can kiss my ass. Arrogant Developers who ignore users are assholes.

[nickrohn93]

no one uses fluxbox? :|

[drnapster]

wow i just switched from gnome to kde but i did not know kde was ever this bad lol it is great now but this old version sucks

[rgzdev]

KDE 4 is not unpolished, it is wrong.

It's actually impressively over polished yet in trying to handhold you so much it feels inflexible and restrictive.

KDE 4 is like, "My way or the highway".

[rzimmer1]

i have a problem to. i setup my display for 1024x768 and saved everything. so when i shut down and go back later to turn on it boots but thescreen resolution is to high for my monitor. after it boots up the right side of screen flickers and overlaps. i change screen resolution back to 1024x768 then everything is fine till i shut down and start back up later and same thing happens. any ideas?

[rzimmer1]

is there a way to go from kde to gnome instead? i installed kubuntu with kde. i hate the interface, is there a way to use gnome so i do not have to reinstall linux?

[MasonFeurtado]

QUICK review? its bloody 25 minutes long! but nice, even though kde sucks

[Axeiaa]

If you plan on reviewing KDE 4.3, please use openSUSE instead of Kubuntu.

Kubuntu feels rather unpolished while openSUSE provides a very polished KDE version, Firefox for example uses Dolphin and the notification system instead of Nautilus and its own download popups.

If you install the proprietary drivers KWIN is capable of some mighty fancy effects as well.

In particular ctrl+f8 and ctrl+f9 do some nice things ;)

[svenni2]

dose it still got k star in KDE i rembe back when i used mandark i had a program were i cude go and checke alot of stuff in a programm calld kstar and checke pic and stuff in space :)

[moebob24]

So the only thing u have to say that is bad it that it wastes space, and its hard to use. Sounds to me like a pretty kick ass desktop environment. Every UI is different. For me, the Mac UI is hard since I have used Windows all my life. Gnome has a feel similar to Windows and that is why I liked it so much, as I went on i now find myself wanting more advanced features that Gnome cannot deliver. KDE is just what I am looking for, I think.

[jfost784]

You should do the same video but with KDE 4.3! PLEASEEE!!!!! :)

[theDBANfan]

Nice mic.

[danniaNik]

пиздел пиздел показывал леталки пердалки а толку никакого! отстой

[T0bb5]

You have a bad ass mic. I want it.

[NaziJuice]

Does anyone know how long it should take to upgrade to 4.2.2 from 4.1.3 ?

[Vytautasrask]

Depends on distribution and network download speed.

[aq1sw2de3fr]

I've been using Gnome for a year now and I was looking at KDE for my desktop computer. I don't understand the use of the 'zoom out' functions either. KDE seems less intuitive than Gnome but I really like how good it looks.

[notanavrageloser]

As others have said, Kubuntu isn't the ideal KDE4 test-bed. I don't mean to knock those developers, but openSUSE and Archlinux have the best implementations I've found so far.

Aside from that, I really feel you knock it too hard for being "different". Yeah, some features are worthless as of now, and things like the plasma dashboard aren't immediately intuitive. Honestly, though? If I were to post a video of myself trying out Gnome, I'd be at least as lost as you appear here.

[Keruaran]

OpenSuse neutered KDE's 'System Settings', completely defeating the purpose of this tool (which was supposed to be a nice one-stop place for the user to go to for all their desktop and system needs) and leaving a confusing mess of 'Desktop Settings' and YaST. Check out the OpenSuse forums to see confused users asking where System Settings is...

Kubuntu does it right, seamlessly integrating KPackageKit with System Settings, while OpenSuse ruined the good usability work the KDE team did.

[notanavrageloser]

well then something changed in the last few months. I used to compile KDE myself until I realized that the build service repos offered /trunk and /branch snapshots, with the only changes being default plasma theme, default wallpaper, and a gecko for a Kickoff/Kmenu icon.

Guess I'll have to fire up the test rig/VM and compare openSUSE's KDE42 repo, Kubuntu 9.04, and self-compiled /branch.

[RaiCoss]

But KPackageKit sucks in Kubuntu. If you try to install Java it breaks the freaking Package manager.

[Keruaran]

Can't say I've noticed any problem like that.

[RaiCoss]

Lol try and install Java & Java plugin in Kubuntu 9.04 through KPackageKit and see what happens :)

[Keruaran]

Ok, next time I do an install I'll do that and see :P

For me its not really a big deal since I tend to use apt at the bash prompt half the time anyway. KPackageKit is also a recent edition with Kubuntu, I'd expect 9.10 to be much better (Kubuntu always lags at least one release behind Ubuntu in terms of quality).

KPackageKit is nicely integrated with System Settings though.

[RaiCoss]

Yeah but it's just annoying now that 4.3 has reached a point where it is actually stable enough to use and take seriously. KpackageKit is not the weaklink in the chain, I NEVER use it and just stick with Terminal, even though I hate doing stuff that way at least it doesn't break the "pipe".

WTF does that actually mean anyway? O.o

[RaiCoss]

not -t +w xD

[insanity54]

Your mic doesn't pick up the sound of your door closing.

[slighter]

Why do you test KDE on Ubuntu? Almost everyone knows that Kubuntu is broken. Kubuntu has obviously problems with untegrating KDE into Ubuntu.

Better look at opensuse or Mandriva or use trunk.

[Keruaran]

Kubuntu is not broken. I'm using it and its fine. I'd take Kubuntu before OpenSuse any day.

[r8qt7]

debian rocks

[nickbolton2705]

At around 09:00 - I ran into these exact same problems, which is why I dont use KDE. It just exposes too much to new users... it should hide things that could break your desktop, unless you're an advanced user.

[eierer]

Since krunner (alt+F2) is completely separated from Plasma (the desktop), you can kill off Plasma if it gets stuck and simply restart it.

The notifications can be brought up by clicking the icon in tray.

KDE 4 is still buggy. I have tried to switch completely. It so much more awesome than Gnome. Still, I can't work with bugs.

[HHO4ALL]

Has anyone ever told you that you look like Kevin Smith? LOL

Thanks for the informative video.

[ambienceweb]

I've often thought that.

Which is a great compliment IMO.

[corruptcorey]

This title is deceiving. 'Quick' != 23 min lol.. love your stuff Chris

[mr47blond]

but more important of all:

Does it have zebra's??

[Keruaran]

The zoom out is not pointless. You can zoom out and create new persistent workspaces (called Activities). They have barely scratched the surface of the potential this has. In the future as it is developed more it will make more sense. I for one am glad they're sticking with this stuff.

[ZardoZ84]

So, these "Activities" can be like virtual desktops, but much better. Allowing to have widgets and icons in a determinated Activitie, not ??

I just saw KDE 4.2 in a barebone that I made for my HDTV, and I get impressed by his high visual aspect, and that not need composition or 3d acceleration to get a nice visual effects.

But it's correct that there some details need to polish, in special in Kubuntu and other details that for a new user to KDE 4 can be confusing.

[mjnaik]

i absolutely agree! too cluttered up with wated space! 5/5 faved

[jfost784]

i make a damn party out of searching for gnome themes and customizing. thats my favorite part

[kamaboko1]

DOH! Nice to see I'm not the only one who has had a "what the hell happened?" KDE moment. KDE is nice, but for me it's option overkill.

[gregbeal1990]

nice review chris, I agree with most of your opinions on KDE. It is just a little too messy for me.

[sharperguy]

Lol funny mishap.

The zoom out thing is actually pretty useful (if counter intuitive).

You can set different widget profiles which I use so if I'm programming it has shortcuts for all my programming apps, and icons from my programming folders etc, but when music making it has the same except for music. Then I just have a minimal one for browsng.

[gotbletu]

same stuff happened to me when i was on KDE, much funnier laughing at others tho. loL

[Koss42]

So true! I'm glad i am not the only one who's felt like this and done some of the same things with the interface.