1. Oswald was given a job in what would eventually become the sniper's nest well in advance of the assassination. In effect, the target was brought to him, rather than seeking out the target.
2. The motorcade route was deliberately changed from going directly toward the freeway, to making a sharp right turn, slowing down to less than 10 mph, then another sharp left turn in front of the Book Depository, all against Secret Service regs.
3. No Secret Service on rooftops, or rear bumper of limo!
It's people like u that make me sick! This is a tragedy and it being a conspiracy makes me want to embrace the French culture and spit upon u! People like u think everything was planned by the government. Well guess what....it's not. JFK was a victim of homicide, not a conspiracy.
@crazyconvos uhh yea 9/11 was a CONSPIRACY as well. No matter which way you look at it. Hijackers conspired to fly a plane into building = conspiracy. Even though I personally think bombs were in the buildings too. Now on JFK I'd love to see you try and explain the massive eyewitness accounts, the head shot, and Jack Ruby being able to go into jail and shoot dead the most protected man in America that day?
Whether Oswald killed Kennedy may never be known. (I believe he did it), he absolutely did kill Officer J D Tippett. So the patsy label can go out the window. He's a cop killer!
the whole "back, and to the left" thing was an involuntary neurological response to the head trauma, not a response to the trajectory of the impact. In truth, the actual force of a bullet impact causes very little motion in an object with the mass of an adult human body. That's simple physics
listen carefully--it doesn't matter who shot from where. the only question is, is the US government above murdering the president, you, your whole family, anyone, if they think it'll line their pockets, and the answer is no. WAKE UP to the country you're living in.
@AMC2283 you know when i read your comment, i thought of the great line from Heathers. "Did you have a brain tumor for breakfast"? Hyperparanoia like yours is easy to espouse, but not so easy to prove.
If you examine individual frames of the Zapruder film, you see how fake and inconsistent JFK's head wound is. We now know that the Zupruder film is totally falsified to fool the public. Look further on Youtube using keywords Zupruder Hoax and watch for yourself.
I suppose if you stare for long enough at any number of these grainy images, you'll begin to see patterns that resemble human shapes or faces. This is really the same kind of "evidence" that people use to "prove" that ghosts exist, lol.
If there is no conspiracy, what are all the drawn on blobs on Kennedy's head doing in the Zapruder film? The Nix film and Zapruder film show different actions of the limousine. At least one film was altered to deceive someone. People need to face the fact that bad people hold powerful positions in our society.
This is complete BULLCRAP. Why are you conspiracy theorists still wasting your time with this? There's also the so-called 'badge man.' That was just photographic 'noise' that may have looked human, but *wasn't.* A person would had to have been 2 feet tall to be in that position. Oswald was the shooter, and there's boat loads of physical evidence of all sorts to prove that, in addition to boat loads of circumstantial. No man was standing nearby. Total garbage. Stop the madness.
Don't be afraid to come out of the closet. You're only hurting your boyfriend. All this so-called macho talk of having sex with women, is hurting your chances of living a loving life with your male friend. Embrace you homosexuality and your boyfriend.
@MrAlsfan5 what it comes down to is that im acknowledging proven established facts and you're defending fantasies. That's your choice. If you want to go on being manipulated, i feel sorry for you.
one question................ who are the men on fith floor beneath the windows...( see them on 30-31 seconds) are the employes...the must have seen and hear the killer(s)...?????
here's something alot of younger people don't know, at the time he was assassinated, JFK was not particularly popular in the country, in many ways his first term was a failure. there was really no reason for some huge government plot to kill him. He might not have even been reelected. There is absolutely no credible proof that he planned to pull the troops out of Vietnam, he was very much a cold warrior.
@chuckbaker JFK first term a failure? Yeah..like preventing World War 3 because of the Cuban Missile Crisis,successfully confronting US Steel because of their unjustified increase in steel prices,advancing civil rights issues,daring America to land a man on the moon before the end of the decade..and yes..there was ample proof he wanted to pull US troops out of Viet Nam.
@amosburke i didnt say he didnt have some successes, but overall he wasn't successful in getting legislation he favored thru the Congress, LBJ had to do that. Including civil rights. If there is such ample proof, lets hear some!
@chuckbaker While it's a good argument to say that THAT shows there wasn't a good reason to kill him there are a myriad of other reasons besides low political or public popularity to have wanted him dead. What you say makes sense as far as it goes but it is one dimensional.
@mrfester42 ok, give me some more dimensions. But please not the "he was going to get out of Vietnam". I know he said to Walter Cronkite that they should fight their own war. But LBJ said pretty much the same thing, and look what he did! FDR promised he wouldn't go to war in Europe, before he got reelected. I think its very far fetched to believe that all the people who would have had to be involved in a conspiracy would have risked going to jail for the rest of their lives.
All the conspiracy theorists really want to do is sell books and TV shows. Even Oliver Stone admitted that he twisted facts, or as he described it "poetic license". But he was out to make a buck, and he sure did!
don't believe its a person at 0:36 there is no body...the face look more like a dummy, which makes be think it probably a cardboard box and light and shade inside the 6 floor that we are seeing.- not a real face!
If Oswald was the lone assassin, how could he possibly know in advance that the 6th floor would be empty at the critical moment? Even if it was lunchtime, Oswald couldn't be absolutely certain there would be no witnesses. Also, would Oswald have been prepared to gun down all the witnesses if he encountered any? I doubt it.
@chuckbaker THAT'S YOUR ANSWER?? Wow..Lt. Columbo you're not..as a matter of fact, Columbo would have solved this case in 15-20 minutes..and Lee Harvey Oswald would have been one of the first people he would have eliminated as a suspect.
@amosburke dude, think about it. Oswald had been working there before the shooting. Don't u think he would have learned what goes on in that building on a daily basis? Still, someone could have walked in on him or his plan could have been screwed up in some other way. But that didn't happen. Jesus, this is not brain surgery!
@chuckbaker It was raining that day in the morning..if this weather continued, the bubble top on the car would have been up..no shot possible. So Oswald went to work that morning with the mindset:" If it's a nice day,I'm gonna shoot me a President, if it's raining,I'm gonna stack some books"? Yes..it certainly isn't brain surgery!
@chuckbaker In other words...you have no explanation. Well, I do. Oswald wasn't involved. He was set up..a patsy. The paraffin test conducted on his cheek that same night revealed no gunpowder residue..i.e., he hadn't fired a rifle within the last 48 hours. There is no way around this.
@chuckbaker Proof..proof..you've given absolutely no proof of your statements and allegations..haven't answered ANY of my questions...because you know the answers will lead you to the same conclusion as me.
@amosburke dude, an investigation was done. As a matter of fact one of the lawyers doing the investigation said he would have loved to have found a conspiracy, because that would have done great things for his future political career, but it just wasn't there.
If you don't want to accept the established facts, you don't have to. But that doesn't change anything, except it guarantees more attention/money for the conspiracy theorists
@chuckbaker You call the Warren Commission Report a viable, objective,competent investigation? Why don't you even make a feeble attempt to answer the questions I've asked of you? Perhaps..you don't have any answers. Or,perhaps the answers you would have would in no way,shape or form convince me of LHO's guilt,let alone a jury.
@amosburke so im just suppose to accept your opinion of the report, sorry doesn't work that way. I doubt if its even your opinion, you probably have never read it. You were probably told that by all the conspiracy nuts. Dude, stop being manipulated by them!
@chuckbaker 1) I'm not a "dude" anymore than LHO was a "lone nut assassin"; kindly refrain from calling me that. 2) Sorry, to disappoint you. but I HAVE read the Warren Report. Which is why I know it's completely false.
@amosburke hey dude, you never told me about all the proof u had about kennedy planning to get out of vietnam. well, don't worry, ill give you a couple of years to come up with it!
@chuckbaker How is it that Oswald apparently had time to hide the rifle at the other end of the 6th floor..but yet..didn't have time to pick up the 3 cartridge shells LYING AT HIS FEET and dispose of them somewhere? Why didn't Oswald wear gloves..or wipe his fingerprints off the rifle? Why were there no gun smoke odors detectable on the 6th floor seconds after the assassination when a police officer and Oswald's boss were up there?
@amosburke in either case, oswald would have made some mistakes or a conspiracy would have made mistakes. there's no such thing as a perfect crime. By the way the bubble top was not bullet proof, he still could have made an attempt if he knew that.
why should anyone today give a shit about who killed jfk? FUCK JFK! he was shot a million years ago! he is irrelevant now. instead you should try to find out who killed your children in far away lands in pointless wars.
@CosmicCaprice Many historians have argued that we have never recovered from his assassination. Furthermore, one could argue (and rightfully so) that JFK's death ushered in a new era of politics in America that allowed for policies (by certain politicians) which perpetuated pointless wars in far away lands.
@rayjr62 good point. but we know who they are: the big corporations who own the country and have all the money while people have nothing, except 'credit lines'. the owners will do anything to gain more money too, including killing millions of people in pointless wars by patriotic incitements on the wars have nothing to do with patriotism, but the corporations don't give a fuck about america, only their money & more money; that's all they care about!JFK said "no war" and they killed him.
Many more witnesses testified to DPD and FBI that three shot were fired, and most thought only two were fired. I have only heard/read testimony of one or two people that THOUGHT they heard more than three shots. There has never been ANY evidence of a shooter in Dealy other than LHO.
LHO marine marksmen grades were 47/50 at 100 meters three times in 2-3 days according to his Boot Camp records. I don't care who's evaluating/ranking his ability, that's EXCELLENT shooting.
The mindset goes something like this. "Who did it?" "I'm not sure but it was probably these people or that group." "If you can't prove who did it how can you say who didn't do it?" It's easy to show who wasn't involved. Here are the facts!" "I still don't believe it" That's how most small minds work. That's no different then YOU, THE READER being a suspect because the conspirators can't be identified.
Too many Americans have been too easily fooled because they take everything at face value. While it is exceedingly difficult to say specifically and exactly who conspired to do it showing who did NOT do it is very easily done and since most folks can't seperate the two they dismiss the facts showing, for example, that Oswald was not involved.
@chuckbaker My guess is that you're going to take my response as a cop out. It's not. There just isn't enough time or space here on YouTube to cover all the detail necessary to lay out the concrete details that show that Oswald wasn't even involved. It's easy to dismiss a handful of facts that require interpretation when all the background is unknown. To learn all that minutia requires time and a broad background that most just wont devote to learning it.
@mrfester42 here are the real questions: who's gathering the information and who's interpreting it? is it truth or spin? the conspiracy nuts have a product to sell, they have to play up the strengths of their product and hide the weaknesses.
@chuckbaker The unknown conspirators knew very well how most people think AND don't think. Those who scoff at anything other than Oswald as the culprit take the surface information (some facts and some non facts) and it couldn't be more obvious to them. They think, "how could it be otherwise when THIS information points only at Oswald" and they refuse to look further and dismiss anything else that might lead elsewhere. It's that human trait that made this murder succeed!
@mrfester42 i dont scoff at anything other than Oswald, but there has never been anything else proven. Most of the other information is not factual, its speculation only You see, i try to live in reality, not in a fantasy world
All here who are so certain that Oswald did it or was even involved just haven't read enough to get past the smokescreen that started fuming all those years ago. You need not dig all that deep but you will have to dig a little. The information is out there AND publicly available. With comments like," the rifle was traced back to Oswald... he did it" it shows how easily most people have had the wool pulled over their eyes. The gun was NOT traced back to Oswald that is only what you read!
I'm not trying to get into a battle with anyone about this... and I find this stuff very interesting... but Oswald was actually a really good shot and had plenty of time to fire off those shots... I'm definitely not saying he acted alone, but the guy was a marksman... and the special that recently aired on the History Channel is a lot more accurate than the movie by Oliver Stone... and I love Oliver Stone too... haha
@KnockemOrLockem You're mistaken. "Marksman" grade was one of the lower rankings in the military at that time when being graded for firearms accuracy. "Marksman grade was just slightly above average and there were a few grades above that ranking. Marksman grade wouldn't qualify at the time for snipers school. In controlled tests through the years, no one has been able to duplicate what Oswald allegedly did with that Carcano rifle. Plenty of time was less than 7 seconds!
@mrfester42 For that kind of rifle, less than 7 seconds is actually plenty of time... it was a decent firearm. People don't seem to understand that fact and it has been proven to be very possible. However, he still would have been very lucky to fire three shots like that. No question there.
I did not finish this video, but I know that Oswald was top of his class in the armed services and was a great shot, he could fire that gun with great aim and a quick reload
@wurly164 Oswald was involved because they tracked the gun back to him, but I do believe the head shot came from the grassy knoll because you can't shoot him in the head like that from the back..no way..so other idiots was involved and we WILL know what exactly happen that day because Jesus knows what happen and be being a child of God will ask him what all happen that day!!!!!!...the whole government back then was corrupt and JFK should have rode in a car that was covered!!!
@cwc27 Those who did it were certainly no idiots. We still don't really know what happened. If the whole government back then was corrupt then it still is!
@wurly164 You're mistaken. "Marksman" grade was one of the lower rankings in the military at that time when being graded for firearms accuracy. And where does it say anywhere that he was at the top of his class. I've been reading everything I can get my hands on bout this assassination since 1968 and I have never read that. And another thing. I DON"T believe everything I read. There is a lot of contradictory information out there in print regarding this subject.
@Thejbirdy my dream, the Plaza is shoulder to shoulder, spreading out in every direction as far as the eye can see. All highways into Dallas are clogged with cars, and millions of people have left them, now walking to Dealy to be there for the Nov. 22, 50 year shakeup. The whole world watches in awe, as now, all roads into Texas are parking lots..
and then a chemtrail tanker fleet doses them with vallium and prozac.... they forget why they came....
The evidence against Oswald was overwhelming. He was definitely the shooter. Regarding whether or not there was a conspiracy----with the current information available there just isn't enough to prove it. The connections he had were too numerous to mention. If you were filming a spy thriller you couldn't make up all the intrigue----but where's the proof?
@agentssith Well, I don't have a clue what Oswald's motive was, and we will probably never know. Those who see Oswald as acting alone will always posit that he was an angry disaffected loner who wanted to do some grand or great thing. If he was part of a conspiracy then motive becomes more evident
"LHO was an expert Marine shot" - "We also know several witnesses saw the rifle being withdrawn from the sixth floor window after the third shot"
That in it self is perplexing. Assuming LHO was a expert marine marksman, he would have never stuck his rifle out the window and gave away his position, he would have fired from inside the window, behind cover where he couldn't be easily placed.
Thats not to say he wasn't the shooter, it just doesn't make sense.
Reading further below and more eye witness testimony: two black co-workers were in the window directly below LHO. They heard all three shots from the window above them. The heard all three shell casings hit the wooden floor directly above them after each shot from LHO rifle. All three casings were recovered there. Many other witnesses confirmed THREE shots in Deally Plaza, only THREE, Two news reporters for WFAA were in Deally confirmed THREE shots 10 minutes later on the air (youtube).
@johnamac123 You're mistaken. Witnesses claimed to hear anywhere from two to 11 shots. Most heard 4 or 5! Two news reporters who were there were just two more witnesses and what they reported was not a confirmation of anything. What they reported was no less and no more reliable than any other witness so to use the word "confirmed" is misleading and if you take their report as confirmation of anything then you were mislead as well. Do you see how easy it is to draw the wrong conclusion!
We also know several witnesses saw the rifle being withdrawn from the sixth floor window after the third shot..... LHO was the lone shooter. I will readily admit there were many unreal coincedences: LHO getting the job at TSBD, LHO was an expert Marine shot, TSBD was the only place on parade route where the road moved away at an angle from the building and slightly downhill, LHO was a Cuban synpathizer. Amazing facts that led to assassination - but those are the facts.
There is film and a photograph taken from behind JFK looking towards the knoll at the moments of impact. Misting blood is moving away and to the front of JFK. If he was hit from the front, it would be moving out the rear of his head. The head shot two bullet fragments were recovered in the front passenger area of the limo after stricking the front windshield next to rear view window and the chrome windshield trim. Jackie's suit had blood/gray matter from JFK head resting in her lap after shots
If a shot was taken from the front, Jackie Kennedy's face would have been by blood or skull/brain matter. It was not. All three shots came from the rear. Laser technology has proven all three came from the TBSD far right six floor window.
@johnamac123 That is pure bullshit. The exit wound on the back of the President's head splattered Jackie with blood and gray matter. The back of his head was blown out do to the mushrooming of the bullet as it passed through his head. His head went back from the force of the impact. That is clearly shown in the film.
There was no evidence of a shot from the front.. JFK's body reaction to having the front quadrant of his brain blown apart was consistant of an involuntary muscle nervous system reaction. There were only three shots heard in Dealy Plaza from many witnesses. All three shots came from LHO rifle. Two of the three bullets were recovered. One in Conolly, one i n the front of the limo in two pieces. The first bullet missed the limo, hit the curb and them the front of the overpass. No other shooter(s)
The film of the shooting proves Kennedy received at least 1 bullet from the front as his head goes back from the impact. The Warren Commision was full of shit.
@MrAlsfan5 what makes you think u can write it? U obviously dont have any relevant point to make. I already explained what happens when a bullet enters a head from any direction, it's up there read it.
No person in window. The guy w/ tshirt is in different building down the street. All signs point to oswald, but oswalds assasination is odd, but im confident he killed jfk so screw him
@cunnidvd Every time I start to think Americans aren't humourless prats I read a comment like yours. If you're not American, I apologise. But you're still a humourless prat.
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1. Oswald was given a job in what would eventually become the sniper's nest well in advance of the assassination. In effect, the target was brought to him, rather than seeking out the target.
2. The motorcade route was deliberately changed from going directly toward the freeway, to making a sharp right turn, slowing down to less than 10 mph, then another sharp left turn in front of the Book Depository, all against Secret Service regs.
3. No Secret Service on rooftops, or rear bumper of limo!
FalseFlag369 1 day ago
BULLSHIT!
djundadawg 1 day ago
I have a theory how we can know where exactly the head shot was fired from .
mephisto88x 3 days ago
It's people like u that make me sick! This is a tragedy and it being a conspiracy makes me want to embrace the French culture and spit upon u! People like u think everything was planned by the government. Well guess what....it's not. JFK was a victim of homicide, not a conspiracy.
crazyconvos 4 days ago
@crazyconvos uhh yea 9/11 was a CONSPIRACY as well. No matter which way you look at it. Hijackers conspired to fly a plane into building = conspiracy. Even though I personally think bombs were in the buildings too. Now on JFK I'd love to see you try and explain the massive eyewitness accounts, the head shot, and Jack Ruby being able to go into jail and shoot dead the most protected man in America that day?
HotjohnnyNemonic 3 days ago
@crazyconvos they conspire to kill him period
Governments always do people always do conspire to commit crimes like murder
mephisto88x 3 days ago
@crazyconvos Riiiggghhht! #Dr.Evilvoice
djundadawg 1 day ago
Regardless of what you believe, you can't deny this sort of thing is fascinating.
88Anesthetize 4 days ago
Whether Oswald killed Kennedy may never be known. (I believe he did it), he absolutely did kill Officer J D Tippett. So the patsy label can go out the window. He's a cop killer!
paulpitt52 5 days ago
@paulpitt52 we don't know if he killed tippett that was a set up
they asked him if he killed the president not if he killed the cop the interview before he was killed by Ruby
mephisto88x 3 days ago
it doesn't matter which bullet how and which direction the bullet came from
the fact is they killed JFK an American president in front of thousands
is obvious it was an inside job just like 911, look how they pulled the secret service men
just minutes before JFK murder.....they feared JFK so as cowards they killed from afar hiding like faggots.
mephisto88x 5 days ago
the whole "back, and to the left" thing was an involuntary neurological response to the head trauma, not a response to the trajectory of the impact. In truth, the actual force of a bullet impact causes very little motion in an object with the mass of an adult human body. That's simple physics
chuckbaker 5 days ago
listen carefully--it doesn't matter who shot from where. the only question is, is the US government above murdering the president, you, your whole family, anyone, if they think it'll line their pockets, and the answer is no. WAKE UP to the country you're living in.
AMC2283 1 week ago
@AMC2283 you know when i read your comment, i thought of the great line from Heathers. "Did you have a brain tumor for breakfast"? Hyperparanoia like yours is easy to espouse, but not so easy to prove.
chuckbaker 5 days ago
@chuckbaker all i said was do you think they're above doing it--do you?
AMC2283 5 days ago
If you examine individual frames of the Zapruder film, you see how fake and inconsistent JFK's head wound is. We now know that the Zupruder film is totally falsified to fool the public. Look further on Youtube using keywords Zupruder Hoax and watch for yourself.
joy4118 1 week ago
@joy4118 not sure if trolling...or just stupid.
OhMyQuadHD 1 week ago
fck u bullshit !!!!
frefre514 1 week ago
After 49 years,why bother?All energies should be expended to get the real birth certificate now-when it can do some good.
ImDavidGurney 1 week ago
I was told he was killed because he wanted to reinstate the gold standard. I read in "The Illuminati" that the killers initials were gh.
Somebodys run this country that is sure but it doesn't seem to be the people, thank god.
naturestan 1 week ago
fuck the usa the fbi and the cia for stealing our hopes.
alvin1217ify 2 weeks ago
What a load of of crap....
matchdaddy 2 weeks ago
Lee Harvey oswald didn't do it, i did
LBUK2010 2 weeks ago
I suppose if you stare for long enough at any number of these grainy images, you'll begin to see patterns that resemble human shapes or faces. This is really the same kind of "evidence" that people use to "prove" that ghosts exist, lol.
TestMeatDollSteak 2 weeks ago
that fucking hit was a costly sob...
onceANexile 2 weeks ago
If there is no conspiracy, what are all the drawn on blobs on Kennedy's head doing in the Zapruder film? The Nix film and Zapruder film show different actions of the limousine. At least one film was altered to deceive someone. People need to face the fact that bad people hold powerful positions in our society.
joy4118 2 weeks ago
@joy4118 no. all of the videos match perfectly. as they should.
flouride666 1 week ago
@joy4118 What blobs?
Squeekicleave 1 week ago
This is complete BULLCRAP. Why are you conspiracy theorists still wasting your time with this? There's also the so-called 'badge man.' That was just photographic 'noise' that may have looked human, but *wasn't.* A person would had to have been 2 feet tall to be in that position. Oswald was the shooter, and there's boat loads of physical evidence of all sorts to prove that, in addition to boat loads of circumstantial. No man was standing nearby. Total garbage. Stop the madness.
blork1980 3 weeks ago
@blork1980 BULLSHIT!!
MrAlsfan5 3 weeks ago
Don't be afraid to come out of the closet. You're only hurting your boyfriend. All this so-called macho talk of having sex with women, is hurting your chances of living a loving life with your male friend. Embrace you homosexuality and your boyfriend.
MrAlsfan5 3 weeks ago
@MrAlsfan5 oh, that's right, everybody who disagrees with you is a homosexual. But, it still doesn't change the facts.
chuckbaker 3 weeks ago
@chuckbaker The fact is that Kennedy was NOT murdered by Oswald.
MrAlsfan5 3 weeks ago
@MrAlsfan5 maybe in your mind, but not in reality
chuckbaker 3 weeks ago
@chuckbaker You don't have a mind and have no touch with reality.
MrAlsfan5 3 weeks ago
@MrAlsfan5 dude, if you can't prove your arguement, dont blame me!
chuckbaker 3 weeks ago
@chuckbaker You can't prove yours.
MrAlsfan5 3 weeks ago
@MrAlsfan5 dont have to, its already been done
chuckbaker 3 weeks ago
@chuckbaker By the Warren Commision?? LOL.
MrAlsfan5 3 weeks ago
@MrAlsfan5 you can lol all you want, doesn't change anything
chuckbaker 3 weeks ago
@chuckbaker Only the Warren Commision. certain government agencies and idiots believe the Warren report. Now you know where you fit in.
MrAlsfan5 3 weeks ago
@MrAlsfan5 dude, give up, you've lost!
chuckbaker 3 weeks ago
@chuckbaker The same suggestion that I have for you. You haven't proved anything or said anything to change my mind.
MrAlsfan5 3 weeks ago
@MrAlsfan5 what it comes down to is that im acknowledging proven established facts and you're defending fantasies. That's your choice. If you want to go on being manipulated, i feel sorry for you.
chuckbaker 3 weeks ago
@chuckbaker My sympathies lie with you being manipultated into believeing the Warren Report. It's a real joke.
MrAlsfan5 3 weeks ago
@MrAlsfan5 my sympathies lie with your family
chuckbaker 3 weeks ago
@chuckbaker Yawn.
MrAlsfan5 3 weeks ago
@MrAlsfan5 Chuck, how do you explain, multiple witnesses describing the sounds of shots as: BANG.............BANG BANG.....hmmmmmm....
migo53333 2 weeks ago
@migo53333 Chuck? Multiple shots from multiple shooters.
MrAlsfan5 2 weeks ago
Dude..if that's the conclusion you've come to, no wonder you're so off base about Oswald.
amosburke 3 weeks ago
@amosburke now that was weak, DUDE
chuckbaker 3 weeks ago
Hey dude..I really don't need your help..got it dude? But dude..you should really expand your vocabulary..ok dude?
amosburke 3 weeks ago
@amosburke sounds like you're starting to realize your beaten
chuckbaker 3 weeks ago
one question................ who are the men on fith floor beneath the windows...( see them on 30-31 seconds) are the employes...the must have seen and hear the killer(s)...?????
MrCacique1955 3 weeks ago
Spooky music! Well then I guess it must be true.
chalklounge 3 weeks ago
here's something alot of younger people don't know, at the time he was assassinated, JFK was not particularly popular in the country, in many ways his first term was a failure. there was really no reason for some huge government plot to kill him. He might not have even been reelected. There is absolutely no credible proof that he planned to pull the troops out of Vietnam, he was very much a cold warrior.
chuckbaker 3 weeks ago
@chuckbaker JFK first term a failure? Yeah..like preventing World War 3 because of the Cuban Missile Crisis,successfully confronting US Steel because of their unjustified increase in steel prices,advancing civil rights issues,daring America to land a man on the moon before the end of the decade..and yes..there was ample proof he wanted to pull US troops out of Viet Nam.
amosburke 3 weeks ago
@amosburke i didnt say he didnt have some successes, but overall he wasn't successful in getting legislation he favored thru the Congress, LBJ had to do that. Including civil rights. If there is such ample proof, lets hear some!
chuckbaker 3 weeks ago
@chuckbaker While it's a good argument to say that THAT shows there wasn't a good reason to kill him there are a myriad of other reasons besides low political or public popularity to have wanted him dead. What you say makes sense as far as it goes but it is one dimensional.
mrfester42 3 weeks ago
@mrfester42 ok, give me some more dimensions. But please not the "he was going to get out of Vietnam". I know he said to Walter Cronkite that they should fight their own war. But LBJ said pretty much the same thing, and look what he did! FDR promised he wouldn't go to war in Europe, before he got reelected. I think its very far fetched to believe that all the people who would have had to be involved in a conspiracy would have risked going to jail for the rest of their lives.
chuckbaker 3 weeks ago
All the conspiracy theorists really want to do is sell books and TV shows. Even Oliver Stone admitted that he twisted facts, or as he described it "poetic license". But he was out to make a buck, and he sure did!
chuckbaker 3 weeks ago
@chuckbaker - Oliver Stone tried to inject a lofty meaning
to his cheap exploitation film by calling it a "mosaic" of every
conspiracy theory packaged in one movie. He deliberately
left out the jump seat configuration which rendered the whole
"Magic Bullet" theory unnecessary. John Connelly was NOT
sitting at the same height or position JFK was because of his
jump seat.
TwoUselessLegs 3 weeks ago
@TwoUselessLegs yeah, there are plenty of things the conspiracy theorists don't tell you
chuckbaker 3 weeks ago
@chuckbaker - LOL Since when has a conspiracy theorist
ever kept his mouth shut? This is contrary to his nature. What
is most troubling about most of these failed-males...is that they
love the sound of their own voices. Often, it's the only one listening
to them. Mind you, I'm no friend to my government. However,
that doesn't mean they conspired to kill the president. I mean,
Christ...these are the same people who can't deliver my fucking
mail to me on time!
TwoUselessLegs 3 weeks ago
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mrfester42 3 weeks ago
don't believe its a person at 0:36 there is no body...the face look more like a dummy, which makes be think it probably a cardboard box and light and shade inside the 6 floor that we are seeing.- not a real face!
no288 3 weeks ago
If Oswald was the lone assassin, how could he possibly know in advance that the 6th floor would be empty at the critical moment? Even if it was lunchtime, Oswald couldn't be absolutely certain there would be no witnesses. Also, would Oswald have been prepared to gun down all the witnesses if he encountered any? I doubt it.
amosburke 3 weeks ago
@amosburke well of course he had to take some chances, this is not a perfect world we live in!
chuckbaker 3 weeks ago
@chuckbaker THAT'S YOUR ANSWER?? Wow..Lt. Columbo you're not..as a matter of fact, Columbo would have solved this case in 15-20 minutes..and Lee Harvey Oswald would have been one of the first people he would have eliminated as a suspect.
amosburke 3 weeks ago
@amosburke dont have to be Columbo, that's TV remember? the real world doesn't work that way
chuckbaker 3 weeks ago
@amosburke dude, think about it. Oswald had been working there before the shooting. Don't u think he would have learned what goes on in that building on a daily basis? Still, someone could have walked in on him or his plan could have been screwed up in some other way. But that didn't happen. Jesus, this is not brain surgery!
chuckbaker 3 weeks ago
@chuckbaker It was raining that day in the morning..if this weather continued, the bubble top on the car would have been up..no shot possible. So Oswald went to work that morning with the mindset:" If it's a nice day,I'm gonna shoot me a President, if it's raining,I'm gonna stack some books"? Yes..it certainly isn't brain surgery!
amosburke 3 weeks ago
@amosburke those things would have screwed up his plan, thanks for making my point even better than I did, you're starting to come around!
chuckbaker 3 weeks ago
@chuckbaker In other words...you have no explanation. Well, I do. Oswald wasn't involved. He was set up..a patsy. The paraffin test conducted on his cheek that same night revealed no gunpowder residue..i.e., he hadn't fired a rifle within the last 48 hours. There is no way around this.
amosburke 3 weeks ago
@amosburke maybe in you mind, but not in reality
chuckbaker 3 weeks ago
@chuckbaker Proof..proof..you've given absolutely no proof of your statements and allegations..haven't answered ANY of my questions...because you know the answers will lead you to the same conclusion as me.
amosburke 3 weeks ago in playlist Favorite videos
@amosburke dude, an investigation was done. As a matter of fact one of the lawyers doing the investigation said he would have loved to have found a conspiracy, because that would have done great things for his future political career, but it just wasn't there.
If you don't want to accept the established facts, you don't have to. But that doesn't change anything, except it guarantees more attention/money for the conspiracy theorists
chuckbaker 3 weeks ago
@chuckbaker You call the Warren Commission Report a viable, objective,competent investigation? Why don't you even make a feeble attempt to answer the questions I've asked of you? Perhaps..you don't have any answers. Or,perhaps the answers you would have would in no way,shape or form convince me of LHO's guilt,let alone a jury.
amosburke 3 weeks ago
@amosburke so im just suppose to accept your opinion of the report, sorry doesn't work that way. I doubt if its even your opinion, you probably have never read it. You were probably told that by all the conspiracy nuts. Dude, stop being manipulated by them!
chuckbaker 3 weeks ago
@chuckbaker 1) I'm not a "dude" anymore than LHO was a "lone nut assassin"; kindly refrain from calling me that. 2) Sorry, to disappoint you. but I HAVE read the Warren Report. Which is why I know it's completely false.
amosburke 3 weeks ago
@amosburke oh really dude, you were part of the investigation team. Gee, why didn't u tell me that!
chuckbaker 3 weeks ago
@chuckbaker Wow..now I see where you're coming from.
amosburke 3 weeks ago
@amosburke hey, i can only try to help u,
chuckbaker 3 weeks ago
@chuckbaker Was Oswald a "dude" too? Eh, dude?
amosburke 3 weeks ago
@amosburke hey dude, you never told me about all the proof u had about kennedy planning to get out of vietnam. well, don't worry, ill give you a couple of years to come up with it!
chuckbaker 3 weeks ago
@chuckbaker How is it that Oswald apparently had time to hide the rifle at the other end of the 6th floor..but yet..didn't have time to pick up the 3 cartridge shells LYING AT HIS FEET and dispose of them somewhere? Why didn't Oswald wear gloves..or wipe his fingerprints off the rifle? Why were there no gun smoke odors detectable on the 6th floor seconds after the assassination when a police officer and Oswald's boss were up there?
amosburke 3 weeks ago
@amosburke why wasn't the conspiracy set up so well that there would be have been no suspicion of a conspiracy
chuckbaker 3 weeks ago
@chuckbaker It was set up well enough to have people like you believe LHO was a lone nut assassin.
amosburke 3 weeks ago
@amosburke not suprisingly, u missed the point, which is in either case there's no such thing as a perfect crime. get it?
chuckbaker 3 weeks ago
@chuckbaker No..please explain it to me.
amosburke 3 weeks ago
@amosburke in either case, oswald would have made some mistakes or a conspiracy would have made mistakes. there's no such thing as a perfect crime. By the way the bubble top was not bullet proof, he still could have made an attempt if he knew that.
chuckbaker 3 weeks ago
@chuckbaker Oh really? You must have read his mind..knowing what he would have done.
amosburke 3 weeks ago
@amosburke you still dont get it, either that or your getting desperate, its starting to sound that way
chuckbaker 3 weeks ago
@chuckbaker No, I don't get it dude. Please explain it to me. I promise to take notes, dude.
amosburke 3 weeks ago
These crazy people need to stop with their lone nut anti-conspiracy theories.
d3ltadrive 3 weeks ago
@d3ltadrive prove otherwise, but please don't send me something a conspiracy thoerist told you!
chuckbaker 3 weeks ago
I'm JFK and this is my favorite video on youtube
Grivahri 4 weeks ago
why should anyone today give a shit about who killed jfk? FUCK JFK! he was shot a million years ago! he is irrelevant now. instead you should try to find out who killed your children in far away lands in pointless wars.
CosmicCaprice 1 month ago
@CosmicCaprice Many historians have argued that we have never recovered from his assassination. Furthermore, one could argue (and rightfully so) that JFK's death ushered in a new era of politics in America that allowed for policies (by certain politicians) which perpetuated pointless wars in far away lands.
rayjr62 1 month ago
@rayjr62 good point. but we know who they are: the big corporations who own the country and have all the money while people have nothing, except 'credit lines'. the owners will do anything to gain more money too, including killing millions of people in pointless wars by patriotic incitements on the wars have nothing to do with patriotism, but the corporations don't give a fuck about america, only their money & more money; that's all they care about!JFK said "no war" and they killed him.
CosmicCaprice 4 weeks ago
@CosmicCaprice enough of the silly rhetoric!
chuckbaker 3 weeks ago
@CosmicCaprice Maybe they are one and the same !?!?
chicagowhitesocks101 3 weeks ago
Many more witnesses testified to DPD and FBI that three shot were fired, and most thought only two were fired. I have only heard/read testimony of one or two people that THOUGHT they heard more than three shots. There has never been ANY evidence of a shooter in Dealy other than LHO.
LHO marine marksmen grades were 47/50 at 100 meters three times in 2-3 days according to his Boot Camp records. I don't care who's evaluating/ranking his ability, that's EXCELLENT shooting.
johnamac123 1 month ago
All here who are convinced of Oswalds guilt are deluded and often they are deluded with not enough facts or mistaken facts.
mrfester42 1 month ago
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The mindset goes something like this. "Who did it?" "I'm not sure but it was probably these people or that group." "If you can't prove who did it how can you say who didn't do it?" It's easy to show who wasn't involved. Here are the facts!" "I still don't believe it" That's how most small minds work. That's no different then YOU, THE READER being a suspect because the conspirators can't be identified.
mrfester42 1 month ago
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mrfester42 1 month ago
Too many Americans have been too easily fooled because they take everything at face value. While it is exceedingly difficult to say specifically and exactly who conspired to do it showing who did NOT do it is very easily done and since most folks can't seperate the two they dismiss the facts showing, for example, that Oswald was not involved.
mrfester42 1 month ago
@mrfester42 ok, since most folks can't seperate the two, why don't you do that for us!
chuckbaker 3 weeks ago
@chuckbaker My guess is that you're going to take my response as a cop out. It's not. There just isn't enough time or space here on YouTube to cover all the detail necessary to lay out the concrete details that show that Oswald wasn't even involved. It's easy to dismiss a handful of facts that require interpretation when all the background is unknown. To learn all that minutia requires time and a broad background that most just wont devote to learning it.
mrfester42 3 weeks ago
@mrfester42 here are the real questions: who's gathering the information and who's interpreting it? is it truth or spin? the conspiracy nuts have a product to sell, they have to play up the strengths of their product and hide the weaknesses.
chuckbaker 3 weeks ago
@chuckbaker The unknown conspirators knew very well how most people think AND don't think. Those who scoff at anything other than Oswald as the culprit take the surface information (some facts and some non facts) and it couldn't be more obvious to them. They think, "how could it be otherwise when THIS information points only at Oswald" and they refuse to look further and dismiss anything else that might lead elsewhere. It's that human trait that made this murder succeed!
mrfester42 3 weeks ago
@mrfester42 i dont scoff at anything other than Oswald, but there has never been anything else proven. Most of the other information is not factual, its speculation only You see, i try to live in reality, not in a fantasy world
chuckbaker 3 weeks ago
All here who are so certain that Oswald did it or was even involved just haven't read enough to get past the smokescreen that started fuming all those years ago. You need not dig all that deep but you will have to dig a little. The information is out there AND publicly available. With comments like," the rifle was traced back to Oswald... he did it" it shows how easily most people have had the wool pulled over their eyes. The gun was NOT traced back to Oswald that is only what you read!
mrfester42 1 month ago
@mrfester42 and what proof do you have of that? Was it something you read?
chuckbaker 3 weeks ago
I'm not trying to get into a battle with anyone about this... and I find this stuff very interesting... but Oswald was actually a really good shot and had plenty of time to fire off those shots... I'm definitely not saying he acted alone, but the guy was a marksman... and the special that recently aired on the History Channel is a lot more accurate than the movie by Oliver Stone... and I love Oliver Stone too... haha
KnockemOrLockem 1 month ago
@KnockemOrLockem You're mistaken. "Marksman" grade was one of the lower rankings in the military at that time when being graded for firearms accuracy. "Marksman grade was just slightly above average and there were a few grades above that ranking. Marksman grade wouldn't qualify at the time for snipers school. In controlled tests through the years, no one has been able to duplicate what Oswald allegedly did with that Carcano rifle. Plenty of time was less than 7 seconds!
mrfester42 1 month ago
@mrfester42 For that kind of rifle, less than 7 seconds is actually plenty of time... it was a decent firearm. People don't seem to understand that fact and it has been proven to be very possible. However, he still would have been very lucky to fire three shots like that. No question there.
KnockemOrLockem 1 month ago
I did not finish this video, but I know that Oswald was top of his class in the armed services and was a great shot, he could fire that gun with great aim and a quick reload
wurly164 1 month ago
@wurly164 Oswald was involved because they tracked the gun back to him, but I do believe the head shot came from the grassy knoll because you can't shoot him in the head like that from the back..no way..so other idiots was involved and we WILL know what exactly happen that day because Jesus knows what happen and be being a child of God will ask him what all happen that day!!!!!!...the whole government back then was corrupt and JFK should have rode in a car that was covered!!!
cwc27 1 month ago
@cwc27 Those who did it were certainly no idiots. We still don't really know what happened. If the whole government back then was corrupt then it still is!
mrfester42 1 month ago
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MuscleProdigyTV 1 month ago 10
@MuscleProdigyTV Thats whats up, my motivator believes in inside jobs from the goverment
david41mal 1 month ago
@wurly164 You're mistaken. "Marksman" grade was one of the lower rankings in the military at that time when being graded for firearms accuracy. And where does it say anywhere that he was at the top of his class. I've been reading everything I can get my hands on bout this assassination since 1968 and I have never read that. And another thing. I DON"T believe everything I read. There is a lot of contradictory information out there in print regarding this subject.
mrfester42 1 month ago
JFK is dead and gone...WTF are we going to do about it now? Go against these power mongering traitors?
Thejbirdy 1 month ago
@Thejbirdy my dream, the Plaza is shoulder to shoulder, spreading out in every direction as far as the eye can see. All highways into Dallas are clogged with cars, and millions of people have left them, now walking to Dealy to be there for the Nov. 22, 50 year shakeup. The whole world watches in awe, as now, all roads into Texas are parking lots..
and then a chemtrail tanker fleet doses them with vallium and prozac.... they forget why they came....
and go home & watch the "nooz" on TV
MrNoblemanoflove 1 month ago
I don't see the guy in the window at the beginning grassy knoll is where the shots came from!
NM11MS44 1 month ago
The evidence against Oswald was overwhelming. He was definitely the shooter. Regarding whether or not there was a conspiracy----with the current information available there just isn't enough to prove it. The connections he had were too numerous to mention. If you were filming a spy thriller you couldn't make up all the intrigue----but where's the proof?
creekpanther 1 month ago
@creekpanther While this is true, there are reasons this conspiracy theory persists. What was Oswald's motive?
agentssith 1 month ago
@agentssith I am just not that sure that the CMC showdown was all that kind of motive.
agentssith 1 month ago
@agentssith Well, I don't have a clue what Oswald's motive was, and we will probably never know. Those who see Oswald as acting alone will always posit that he was an angry disaffected loner who wanted to do some grand or great thing. If he was part of a conspiracy then motive becomes more evident
creekpanther 1 month ago
@agentssith Don't you get it yet... you idiot? Oswald didn't do it!
mrfester42 1 month ago
@mrfester42 There is far too much evidence to suggest he did. However I don't think that he was acting entirely of his own agency. He had no motive.
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chuckbaker 3 weeks ago
"LHO was an expert Marine shot" - "We also know several witnesses saw the rifle being withdrawn from the sixth floor window after the third shot"
That in it self is perplexing. Assuming LHO was a expert marine marksman, he would have never stuck his rifle out the window and gave away his position, he would have fired from inside the window, behind cover where he couldn't be easily placed.
Thats not to say he wasn't the shooter, it just doesn't make sense.
SIX50R 1 month ago
Reading further below and more eye witness testimony: two black co-workers were in the window directly below LHO. They heard all three shots from the window above them. The heard all three shell casings hit the wooden floor directly above them after each shot from LHO rifle. All three casings were recovered there. Many other witnesses confirmed THREE shots in Deally Plaza, only THREE, Two news reporters for WFAA were in Deally confirmed THREE shots 10 minutes later on the air (youtube).
johnamac123 1 month ago
@johnamac123 You're mistaken. Witnesses claimed to hear anywhere from two to 11 shots. Most heard 4 or 5! Two news reporters who were there were just two more witnesses and what they reported was not a confirmation of anything. What they reported was no less and no more reliable than any other witness so to use the word "confirmed" is misleading and if you take their report as confirmation of anything then you were mislead as well. Do you see how easy it is to draw the wrong conclusion!
mrfester42 1 month ago
We also know several witnesses saw the rifle being withdrawn from the sixth floor window after the third shot..... LHO was the lone shooter. I will readily admit there were many unreal coincedences: LHO getting the job at TSBD, LHO was an expert Marine shot, TSBD was the only place on parade route where the road moved away at an angle from the building and slightly downhill, LHO was a Cuban synpathizer. Amazing facts that led to assassination - but those are the facts.
johnamac123 1 month ago
There is film and a photograph taken from behind JFK looking towards the knoll at the moments of impact. Misting blood is moving away and to the front of JFK. If he was hit from the front, it would be moving out the rear of his head. The head shot two bullet fragments were recovered in the front passenger area of the limo after stricking the front windshield next to rear view window and the chrome windshield trim. Jackie's suit had blood/gray matter from JFK head resting in her lap after shots
johnamac123 1 month ago
If a shot was taken from the front, Jackie Kennedy's face would have been by blood or skull/brain matter. It was not. All three shots came from the rear. Laser technology has proven all three came from the TBSD far right six floor window.
johnamac123 1 month ago
@johnamac123 That is pure bullshit. The exit wound on the back of the President's head splattered Jackie with blood and gray matter. The back of his head was blown out do to the mushrooming of the bullet as it passed through his head. His head went back from the force of the impact. That is clearly shown in the film.
MrAlsfan5 1 month ago
There was no evidence of a shot from the front.. JFK's body reaction to having the front quadrant of his brain blown apart was consistant of an involuntary muscle nervous system reaction. There were only three shots heard in Dealy Plaza from many witnesses. All three shots came from LHO rifle. Two of the three bullets were recovered. One in Conolly, one i n the front of the limo in two pieces. The first bullet missed the limo, hit the curb and them the front of the overpass. No other shooter(s)
johnamac123 1 month ago
The film of the shooting proves Kennedy received at least 1 bullet from the front as his head goes back from the impact. The Warren Commision was full of shit.
MrAlsfan5 1 month ago
@MrAlsfan5 wrong
chuckbaker 3 weeks ago
@chuckbaker Bullshit! You work for the CIA of another branch of the govenment?
MrAlsfan5 3 weeks ago
@MrAlsfan5 i dont follow your paranoid hysteria. once again in english
chuckbaker 3 weeks ago
@chuckbaker What makes you think you'll understand english?
MrAlsfan5 3 weeks ago
@MrAlsfan5 what makes you think u can write it? U obviously dont have any relevant point to make. I already explained what happens when a bullet enters a head from any direction, it's up there read it.
chuckbaker 3 weeks ago
@chuckbaker Why would I care what you think? Who the hell are you?
MrAlsfan5 3 weeks ago
@MrAlsfan5 your daddy
chuckbaker 3 weeks ago
@chuckbaker Lol. The best you've ever done is with your hand or your boyfriend's.
MrAlsfan5 3 weeks ago
@MrAlsfan5 face it dude, u use to swim around in my nut sac. but you've dissapointed the hell out of me!
chuckbaker 3 weeks ago
@chuckbaker If that's the case, your boyfriend should have swallowed that time. I'm sure you do for him.
MrAlsfan5 3 weeks ago
@MrAlsfan5 yeah he wanted to but your mother fought him off
chuckbaker 3 weeks ago
No person in window. The guy w/ tshirt is in different building down the street. All signs point to oswald, but oswalds assasination is odd, but im confident he killed jfk so screw him
mrogers301 1 month ago
Unfortunately the photos are of such low quality it is almost impossible to make out the figures at the window.
madelena1234 1 month ago
@madelena1234 well u kinda see a white mans face
MegaGibby96 1 month ago
@madelena1234 Bingo!
mrfester42 1 month ago
Michael Collins Piper wrote a Bestselling book indicting Israel, Israeli Mossad and CIA in the Assassination of JFK.
It was Banned in America.
JFK Prevented Israel from getting Nukes, but with JFK gone, the Zionist LBJ allowed Israel to acquire Nukes.
JFK also wanted to deescalate Vietnam and print Interest free money.
Both of those ideas were also crushed with him dead.
StSimonMartyr 1 month ago
A conspiracy requires intelligence and clever planning. But JFK was assassinated in the USA. I rest my case.
mikelheron20 1 month ago
@mikelheron20 i see what you did there :P
TwistedMentality089 1 month ago
@TwistedMentality089 Just kidding. Honest. :o)
mikelheron20 1 month ago
@mikelheron20 That is quite convincing if what you are arguing is that you are an asshole.
cunnidvd 1 month ago
@cunnidvd Every time I start to think Americans aren't humourless prats I read a comment like yours. If you're not American, I apologise. But you're still a humourless prat.
mikelheron20 1 month ago
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cunnidvd 1 month ago
@mikelheron20 was humorless prat a joke too? should I be laughing? you poor ignorant bigot.
cunnidvd 1 month ago
@cunnidvd What do you think?
mikelheron20 1 month ago
@mikelheron20 The meaning of my rhetorical question should be obvious even to an ignorant prat. Perhaps I overestimated you.
cunnidvd 1 month ago
@cunnidvd No idea what your blathering on about and care even less.